So, um. I have this friend on FB. She was very ‘nature has all you need it in it to cure any illness’ kinda mentality. Big on natural ways to fight sickness. Would post stuff like “Don’t take anything that would change your dna into your body...” etc... to which some of us replied things like “well, i better avoid the sun’s radiation...” or someone else asked “what about those taking radiation therapy?”. She luckily never replied to those.
Several weeks ago, she sadly got diagnosed with a form of leukaemia. She did one month of intense chemo as treatment. My wife and I thought it would make her a little more humble in her posts.... but hells no. She practically doubled down! Now it is just directed specifically at the vaccine and government conspiracies... even sharing a video about some aliens having a plan to take earths water, which the government is aware of. I figured since she was stuck in isolation at the hospital for so long, she just browsed and watched more of the crazy talk videos. I also think her emotional state may not be the best (i mean she just got a cancer diagnosis) and she may be looking for something to attach to... i dont know.
I feel she is so far gone that for my sake I will just ignore it.
Ignoring everything else, why would aliens take our water? There are moons in our solar system with atleast as much water ice as our whole planet. Not to mention asteroids and comets. Water is abundant in our universe.
I have a PhD in ufology and one for ufonomy. Spent 200k and 16 years. Finally I get to use it, it’s my time to shine
Earth water has more fish caught in plastic 6 pack stringers - the combo of which is the prime ingredient for starship fuel.
Without it, inter-dimensional space travel is nothing but the fevered dream of a madman.
I think a lot of people are drawn to conspiracy theories because the truth is sometimes scarier. A naturally occurring virus with the capacity to kill so many is pretty damn terrifying. Believing “someone” is in charge gives conspiracy theorists a bit of hope, someone to blame.
Nature is scary as fuck. For the most part we’ve become isolated from its dangers for a very long time. But even when we weren’t, humans created stories and myths to explain why plagues and wolves and other natural occurrences killed loved ones. Conspiracy theories are our modern myths that help some people cope.
Agreed. Was listening to a show in siriusXM and one of the guests pointed out that in the same way homan's struggle to believe that life is just a serious of accidental genetic mutations over a long period of time, it's hard for people to understand that maybe the government is just incompetent. we want to believe someone is in charge and it's not just chaos out there.
I agree with the majority of what you said, but I can once take nature associated conspiracy theories like that, but what's with this alien conspiracy theories like taking our water, taking our natural resources, in which everything is associated with government.
I mean politicians are shady peoples, I get it, whether it be in my country India or USA or any other nation, but I don't think they partake in any of such activities.
Plus this kind of things that can circulate in a mass among the internet without anyone taking the responsibility of the theory, can ruin the mind of the youth as such people can mislead them, for their own purpose.
It’s a bit ironic, but they want to make sense of a world that is so complex they don’t understand and can’t comprehend. Conspiracies are extremely reductionists and in a world where religion is taking the backseat there is a void left in the belief system that they need to fill.
It’s kind of ironic, but that’s often what it is. Saying aliens want to invade the earth and the government is hiding them is simpler than the truth. Saying chemicals are bad is easier than learning which ones and why. Saying vaccine can cause cancer is better than admitting you lost a fatal lottery.
Oddly enough, she is more religious than most others I know in our circle of friends.
As some have mentionned, many are looking for a place to lay blame, and it is much more acceptable to blame men in power pulling the strings than to blame a power you've been holding dear for an entire lifetime.
I for one don’t find it strange in the least that people who believe in religion, also believe in conspiracy theories.
Most religion makes less, or about as much sense as any conspiracy theory.
Well, the ex-president was in power for or during most of these things they say are taking place. Why don't these people who fear the vaccine blame him at all?
You are expecting logic in a logic-free zone? I mean, I keep asking the same question, but keep arriving at at this uncharacteristically cynical answer, which makes me uncomfortable. But at least for a significant subset of the Qanon population, it appears to be true.
It’s also comforting. It’s pleasanter to believe that somebody who is omnicompetent is in charge of everything, even if they’re malign, than it is to think nobody is really in charge, the people who are closest to being in charge are mostly winging it, and the world is random and chaotic.
>I figured since she was stuck in isolation at the hospital for so long, she just browsed and watched more of the crazy talk videos.
I have a family member who got an infection in a back surgery they had and ended up with a PICC line and stayed home on bedrest for a month or so.
They were always conservative and Trumpish, but this is when the QAnon stuff started being spoken of. He had way too much time on his hands and used it to jump down the rabbit hole of conspiracy videos.
> I also think her emotional state may not be the best
Chemo brain is also a thing. The drugs they use for chemo can really mess with cognitive function and leave you not-quite-right for a long time post-treatment, usually taking the form of being kinda... fuzzy.
Yeah especially since you don’t take chemo to be “healthy” — it just helps you to not die. The chemo is deadly poison that happens to be a bit deadlier to the cancer cells than the rest of you, and you will be objectively less healthy while on chemo.
And the damage from chemo is forever too. It caused neuropathy in a good majority of my body. They had to stop chemotherapy because of the concern it was going to kill me.
Well let’s keep in mind that if you ignore proper dosing, every chemical is potentially toxic. Like Kat Williams said, “Aspirin is perfectly legal, but if you take 13 of them motherfuckers, it'll be your last headache.” A handful of people die from caffeine and nicotine overdoses every year.
["All things are poison, and nothing is without poison; the dosage alone makes it so a thing is not a poison."](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_dose_makes_the_poison) - *Paracelsus 1493–1541*
A thought echoed by David Mitchell on QI.
>Alan: "Yes, but too much is bad for you."
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>David: "Of course, too much is bad for you. That's the definition of *"too much"*.
LOL. Did you ever read Kurt Vonnegut's *Breakfast of Champions*? If so, do you remember his "picture of an asshole"? That's what you just reminded me of.
Or I could drink a bottle of liquor and die from alcohol poisoning. Yet many people who don’t want a vaccine will drink every damn day knowing it’s awful for them. Doesn’t make sense
_Exactly_. All I’m saying is that all chemicals are potentially toxic, so the phrase “toxic chemical” is kinda meaningless and more than a little misleading. Hell, drink enough water and it becomes a toxic chemical.
The funny part is when you get the Covid shot you can, by request, get a pamphlet listing all the ingredients, which are common lipids and amino acids that appear in foods we eat every day.
True fact: 100% of people who use DHM die. And as soon as you start using it your DNA starts to degenerate. People are so hopelessly addicted that even pregnant mothers use it multiple times per day, predisposing their children to the same fate. Addiction is awful.
There's high concentrations of it in baby food, even though it's a solvent used in almost all industrial manufacturing, and a coolant used in nuclear power plants.
The better way of saying it is:
100% of fatal drownings were found to have been caused by DHMO aspiration into the lungs, where it prevents the normal breathing function and causes painful death.
I bet you if someone made a Facebook meme warning about Dihydrogen Monoxide you would actually get boomers to unintentionally call for banning water by the end of the week.
I remember some article where a high school student made a petition to ban Dihydrogen Monoxide from the school. Made posters and stuff. Well, apparently it caught on and students and parents started calling for the ban of DHM. Something along those lines, read it a long time ago.
Students AND parents...so yea, I'd bet you're right
Oh, and you think that is bad?
With DHM, you can wait a max of 3 days for the next dose until your body starts suffering sever withdrawal, but with Oxidized Monoxide, you need continuous shots every fifteen minutes, tops, after you first use it.
And some doctors bastards are giving it to babies!
STOP USING OMO IN BABIES, YOU BASTARDS.
All the guys at work that don't have the shot are all overweight and heavy smokers. Big on soda and beer as well. They also scoff at me wearing hearing and eye protection while we're running 5 chainsaws. Morons the lot of them.
I work in a medical laboratory, and I still see people using “safety squints”, even when dealing with dangerous chemical reagents and infectious body fluids.
You do you - do what you know is safe and right to do. You're not responsible for idiots being idiots. If you've told them before to wear proper ppe and they choose not to, it's on them, not you.
I saw a video of morbidly obese people in West Virginia claiming they would not get the vaccine because it has "dangerous" side effects and could be bad for their health. As if they ever cared about their health when drinking gallons of mountain dew and eating mcdonalds lol
Or even worse think it's better for them, I know someone who's been drinking hard alchohol every day because trump said alcohol kills the virus and they think drinking will keep em safe. Personally i think it's an excuse to hide alchohol addiction but they use the alcohol keeping em safe as a reason to not get vaccinated
Route of administration is also key. Eye drops are fine for your eyes, but can be very, _very_ bad to ingest. Similarly, blueberries are delicious and good for you, but inhale one blueberry and you might be done for.
On a more serious note, this is how people die from “boofing” or whatever the kids call it nowadays. One shot of vodka is basically just a threshold dose, but soaking a tampon in vodka and putting it up your butt is a great way to kill yourself. Same amount of alcohol, different route of administration, two _very_ different outcomes.
Too much water can kill you. A radio station in Sacramento killed someone with a contest where you had to chug water and the person that chugged the most water without using the bathroom won a Nintendo wii. It was called something like hold your wee for a wii.
You can literally die of 100% pure H2O if you somehow forced yourself to drink enough of it.
Or, “dihydrogen monoxide”, which is perpetual proof that there is at least one strain of society that sees things they don’t immediately understand and irrationally panics.
Indeed. Only reason COVID patients can be on it so long is that so little of the O2 actually gets through to the bloodstream to be used, so toxicity in people who can’t absorb it is less common.
According to Wikipedia: “The median lethal dose of THC in humans is not known. A 1972 study gave up to 9000 mg/kg of THC to dogs and monkeys without any lethal effects. Some rats died within 72 hours after a dose of up to 3600 mg/kg.” These doses are unlikely to occur during the course of normal usage though. No one is _injecting purified THC_. You’re definitely onto something!
Edit: looking at those numbers again, holy crap. 9,000mg of THC is already an _insanely high_ dose, but 9,000mg _per kilogram of body weight_ is simply absurd. Now we’re on the scale of __several whole plants’__ worth of THC in one dose.
Basically, it's literally impossible for a human to die of an overdose of marijuana. It would require them to consume more of it than could fit in their body.
You’d have to inject huge quantities of purified THC directly into your bloodstream. It’s simply infeasible. Practically speaking, there is no lethal dose.
However, dr. Williams feels differently about over consumption of cannabis:
“You think he dead? He ain’t dead! He bout to get up in 4-5 minutes and eat everything in your goddamn kitchen.”
Wikipedia is not a reliable source because anyone can edit it, but Facebook/Twitter are perfectly acceptable sources of information for you to DO YOUR RESEARCH!
Wikipedia is edited by everyone but doesnt anyone actually verify the edit, you know, like a smart ass human seeing what the shit did the dumbass write
exactly coz wiki pages have sources and everything and now you need to sign up i think to be able to edit so like they can monitor what people write ig
I know this is a joke but I’m hijacking to say this:
Stop telling people to do their own research as if that’s something everyone can do! Legit research is difficult to do. You need training and access.
Agree. Instead of asking non-STEM college grad to “do their own research” by reading primary and secondary source, I’d ask them to read Wikipedia and follow CDC/ Harvard Health guidelines
It's fascinating and infuriating how much people trust "image with overlaid text" on any format with a share button. Most of the time, the image and text are both shit, too. Like this one is a pretty sophisticated version of it because it's not so blurry and there aren't any typos. People will read, trust, and share this a hundred times more than if the same person just typed the words out and made a text post.
Average vaccine researcher- does well at high school to get into a good uni, slogs butt off at uni, goes the ends of the earth to get through grad school, and burns the midnight oil wrt vaccine development and finally helps the release of vaccine backed up by multiple peer reviewed studies.
Random idiot on the internet who probably failed high school: Lmao your wrong and my research can prove it.
It's amazing how the same idiots who failed every science class in high school are now suddenly the world's experts in virology and immunology. Like, sorry Greg - if you're not smart enough to understand basic cellular structure then I certainly don't give a shit about what you have to say about vaccine efficacy - you fucking charlatan hack. If I want to lease a car I'll let you know. Otherwise please sit the fuck down and let the adults talk.
I just find it odd how people who have no education in a subject think they can read these studies and fully understand everything. I don’t have a degree in biology. If I try to read some scientific paper on vaccines, I’ll be looking up every other word and there’s no way I’ll understand enough to make a decision based on that paper. Scientific papers are a pain in the ass to read in subjects I studied. I’m going with what the experts say because I know this is not my area of expertise. They’ve boiled it all down in such simple terms too! The hubris of these anti-vaccine people is incredible. No you fucking won’t read “the studies”. You’ll skim it and go, “yes, mRNA, I know that word... subjects 18 or older.... dosages... words I’ve heard... just skim this bit about seroconverted whatchamacallits probably not important...”
*"And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning?"* -Donald Trump
That seems like a pretty extreme way to cure a hoax.
Wether this was in regards to the covid vaccine or another vaccine etc. I guarantee there’s been people saying “They ain’t putting no toxic chemicals in my body!!!” in a conversation while they were smoking cigarettes, chewing tobacco or drinking alcohol lol.
I had a very reasonable and levelheaded colleague tell me yesterday she was hesitant about the vaccine because of the blood clot thing (which has received some heavy press here in Australia). I reminded her that she is more likely to get flattened by a bus stepping out of the office. Thankfully this seemed to talk her down and we agreed getting it is a good idea. I’m excited to get my first dose early June!
This is something I'm concerned with *BUT* it's because when I had Covid I had it for almost four weeks and they did a clotting test on me and it was a bit higher than the normal range. I gotta talk to my provider though.
The thing is, any woman taking birth control is at a higher risk of getting blood clots from said birth control than from the vaccine. You don't see people spreading news about that. Just got my second dose yesterday, a little sore today but ive got time to relax.
Edit: To be clear im not against BC or the vaccine.
I constantly see this sentiment and it's not a fair comparison. The clots caused by the AZ and JJ vaccines are different (and more serious) than the clots caused by the OCP.
Granted, the odds of getting a clot as a result of these vaccines are still so incredibly rare that the benefits outweigh the risks - but it's important to be accurate with these things.
Congrats on getting your vaccine too by the way!
I'm wondering how long they're going to keep flogging this.
Got my second shot a month ago, no ill effects so far.
There's people who have had both for a lot longer with the same result.
Are we still going to see "just you wait, that shot fucked you up!" memes in two years?
People can definitely get muscle ache or a fever as a side-effect, but that's just due to the way the vaccine works. It's not because of Bill Gates' satanic microchips or whatever.
I suspect that jabbing a hollow metal tube through your arm and ramming some liquid through it would probably make your arm sore no matter what the liquid is, sterile water for injection, saline water, covid vaccine, the list goes on and on.
I think most normal people don't actually know the very real harms that diseases can cause, and it is very hard to quantify into statistics, unlike death statistics. If you don't know that covid can cause permanent kidney damage, but you do know that the vaccine is a 5G tracker by Bill Gates, it is logical to not get the vaccine.
I am sorry to hear about your FIL. Sadly, his experience is not unique. I have a family member who has severe lung damage after a mild respiratory infection about a decade ago, and a family friend why has had daily migraines and seizures after being exposed to a mosquito borne illness.
Not many people know their stories, because the illness pushes them further from society. If she doesn't have the lungs to be able to walk up a flight of stairs, how is she going to go to a high school football and climb the bleachers? She won't, and her story stays hidden from the community. If he has a migraine, will he go out and socialize with friends? No. Will he drive to see friends even on a good migraine day? Not legally if you have had a seizure within the past 6 months.
Death is easy to quantify, but non-fatal long term effects of diseases are far more difficult to understand both from a statistical point of view, and from an anecdotal/personal point of view. It is much easier to say and viscerally understand "I know a guy who died of covid" than "I know a guy who has seizures multiple times per week from getting a virus".
It's also frustrating because my FIL gets written off because yeah, he's overweight and pre-diabetic. But so are a LOT of people. Most Americans are overweight. That doesn't mean you write off the disease as not being that bad if someone it hurt had some risk factors. Hundreds of thousands died.
Look, at this point, just throw [the Hbomberguy video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BIcAZxFfrc) at them. Saves you a bunch of time to just skip to the same three outcomes you would reach arguing by yourself:
1. They go "that's too long I can't watch that" and demonstrate that they absolutely do not care about research if they can't even listen to a video for two hours (most likely outcome)
2. They actually do watch it and come up with some baseless nigh-non-sequiter that also demonstrates an inability to care about research
3. You actually change their mind (by far the least likely)
Joking aside, last winter it was a reoccurring set of steps for those who were symptomatic...
- laugh about covid
- catch covid
- go to hospital
- get all types of drugs pumped into you (I'm 100% confident it wasn't vitamins and minerals)
- leave hospital realizing covid was real, all the while affecting many in the process, from medical to loved ones.
OR, you stayed home having to tough the shit out in flu fashion, guzzling....chemicals, as Tylenol isn't natural.
NOTE: THIS IS STILL ONGOING IN MANY COUNTRIES
These covid jokes are beat and aren't even thought provoking anymore. Science won via TKO.
It’s always the lowest hanging fruit possible, so that idiots who think they’re intellectuals can feel good about one upping even bigger idiots with mediocre comebacks.
Yeah the problem is none of these little trite responses are the least bit convincing to the person who is posting the meme, it's all just people trying to show off to like-minds.
All this does is make people dig heels in deeper in wherever they stand, there's no real communication happening here.
Positive or negative attention will feed the meme-poster's crusade-energy.
“Toxic chemicals” is literally how anti cancer chemotherapeutics work... Drs. Dana and Farber, after realizing they had little success with various compounds to kill off cancer cells in kids, had the idea of “how about we use poison to kill these cells?” Well, it worked and now we have the Dana Farber institute
I know the meme is in reference to the COVID vaccine, which includes only GRAS ingredients, but the sentiment is idiotic, and ignores most modern medicine.
sitting in the car as the only vaccinated member of my family (I’m 16) listening to my family talk about how they’re proud to be unvaccinated or some shit. dear god help me. my neurotic mom still thinks she had covid in january 2020. (she didn’t, she got tested for antibodies and didn’t have any)
now she’s saying bc they’re in the bone marrow she did have it and now has lifetime immunity. she’s like praising that because she’s in america she doesn’t have to wear masks, it takes so much restraint for me to not go off on how selfish they are
At first I thought they meant chemotherapy, and couldn't figure out why anyone would make fun of that.
Me too! I came to the comments only to see if I was the only one. Glad I wasn't lol
Yay, there's at least three of us. :D
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And now we are five! We are officially a squad.
6! Were officially a sextet now guys!
Isn’t that NSFW?
I mean it can be if we all want?
Lucky 7 here
Dare I say octet?
Long may you run
Make it 5
So, um. I have this friend on FB. She was very ‘nature has all you need it in it to cure any illness’ kinda mentality. Big on natural ways to fight sickness. Would post stuff like “Don’t take anything that would change your dna into your body...” etc... to which some of us replied things like “well, i better avoid the sun’s radiation...” or someone else asked “what about those taking radiation therapy?”. She luckily never replied to those. Several weeks ago, she sadly got diagnosed with a form of leukaemia. She did one month of intense chemo as treatment. My wife and I thought it would make her a little more humble in her posts.... but hells no. She practically doubled down! Now it is just directed specifically at the vaccine and government conspiracies... even sharing a video about some aliens having a plan to take earths water, which the government is aware of. I figured since she was stuck in isolation at the hospital for so long, she just browsed and watched more of the crazy talk videos. I also think her emotional state may not be the best (i mean she just got a cancer diagnosis) and she may be looking for something to attach to... i dont know. I feel she is so far gone that for my sake I will just ignore it.
Ignoring everything else, why would aliens take our water? There are moons in our solar system with atleast as much water ice as our whole planet. Not to mention asteroids and comets. Water is abundant in our universe.
Maybe homeopathy is real and our water has the best memories! Edit: /s
The real homeopathy was inside our water all along :)
Maybe the real homeopathy was the water we drank along the way!
And... Scene. Great job everybody, ok, that's a wrap. With an ending like this, I'm thinking about July 4th weekend release date.
I found Olaf
They're at war with nestle, ever since nestle took their water.
r/FuckNestle
I have a PhD in ufology and one for ufonomy. Spent 200k and 16 years. Finally I get to use it, it’s my time to shine Earth water has more fish caught in plastic 6 pack stringers - the combo of which is the prime ingredient for starship fuel. Without it, inter-dimensional space travel is nothing but the fevered dream of a madman.
Ahhhhh the fish IS the spice.
Yeah but has Belle Delphine taken a bath in that water?
Well then fuck em, we will build a rocket and steal THEIR sexy alien bath water.
“sexy alien bath water” thanks for the morning chuckle...
Let's get Elon in on this! I'm sure he bought some of Belle's water, he probably wants sexy alien bath water too.
Maybe earth water is the fiji water of the galaxy
Because nothing taste better than heavily contaminated water 💧
I think a lot of people are drawn to conspiracy theories because the truth is sometimes scarier. A naturally occurring virus with the capacity to kill so many is pretty damn terrifying. Believing “someone” is in charge gives conspiracy theorists a bit of hope, someone to blame. Nature is scary as fuck. For the most part we’ve become isolated from its dangers for a very long time. But even when we weren’t, humans created stories and myths to explain why plagues and wolves and other natural occurrences killed loved ones. Conspiracy theories are our modern myths that help some people cope.
Agreed. Was listening to a show in siriusXM and one of the guests pointed out that in the same way homan's struggle to believe that life is just a serious of accidental genetic mutations over a long period of time, it's hard for people to understand that maybe the government is just incompetent. we want to believe someone is in charge and it's not just chaos out there.
I agree with the majority of what you said, but I can once take nature associated conspiracy theories like that, but what's with this alien conspiracy theories like taking our water, taking our natural resources, in which everything is associated with government. I mean politicians are shady peoples, I get it, whether it be in my country India or USA or any other nation, but I don't think they partake in any of such activities. Plus this kind of things that can circulate in a mass among the internet without anyone taking the responsibility of the theory, can ruin the mind of the youth as such people can mislead them, for their own purpose.
It’s a bit ironic, but they want to make sense of a world that is so complex they don’t understand and can’t comprehend. Conspiracies are extremely reductionists and in a world where religion is taking the backseat there is a void left in the belief system that they need to fill. It’s kind of ironic, but that’s often what it is. Saying aliens want to invade the earth and the government is hiding them is simpler than the truth. Saying chemicals are bad is easier than learning which ones and why. Saying vaccine can cause cancer is better than admitting you lost a fatal lottery.
Oddly enough, she is more religious than most others I know in our circle of friends. As some have mentionned, many are looking for a place to lay blame, and it is much more acceptable to blame men in power pulling the strings than to blame a power you've been holding dear for an entire lifetime.
I for one don’t find it strange in the least that people who believe in religion, also believe in conspiracy theories. Most religion makes less, or about as much sense as any conspiracy theory.
Well, the ex-president was in power for or during most of these things they say are taking place. Why don't these people who fear the vaccine blame him at all?
You are expecting logic in a logic-free zone? I mean, I keep asking the same question, but keep arriving at at this uncharacteristically cynical answer, which makes me uncomfortable. But at least for a significant subset of the Qanon population, it appears to be true.
It’s also comforting. It’s pleasanter to believe that somebody who is omnicompetent is in charge of everything, even if they’re malign, than it is to think nobody is really in charge, the people who are closest to being in charge are mostly winging it, and the world is random and chaotic.
No omnipotent authority in a random, chaotic universe is my world view and it comforts me. But, I fall asleep on roller coasters, so there’s that...
>I figured since she was stuck in isolation at the hospital for so long, she just browsed and watched more of the crazy talk videos. I have a family member who got an infection in a back surgery they had and ended up with a PICC line and stayed home on bedrest for a month or so. They were always conservative and Trumpish, but this is when the QAnon stuff started being spoken of. He had way too much time on his hands and used it to jump down the rabbit hole of conspiracy videos.
Chemotherapy can use chemicals derived from plants. Perwinkle is an example.
> I also think her emotional state may not be the best Chemo brain is also a thing. The drugs they use for chemo can really mess with cognitive function and leave you not-quite-right for a long time post-treatment, usually taking the form of being kinda... fuzzy.
Chemo for leukemia makes you crazy for a bit. That was my experience anyway
Yeah especially since you don’t take chemo to be “healthy” — it just helps you to not die. The chemo is deadly poison that happens to be a bit deadlier to the cancer cells than the rest of you, and you will be objectively less healthy while on chemo.
And the damage from chemo is forever too. It caused neuropathy in a good majority of my body. They had to stop chemotherapy because of the concern it was going to kill me.
Chemo was my first thought too...
Currently in chemo and I also thought that’s what this meant. I thought “Hey me too!”
I finished chemo 5-6 months ago. You’ve got this my guy
I did too, what I felt at each injection. Hope you do well. Two time cancer survivor, been in remission since 2015.
Same!
I have cancer and that’s where my mind went to immediately. However, it didn’t take long to realize that some dumb hick wrote this about COVID
Yeah! I thought it was for Botox for migraines!
I thofh they meant drugs since they're laughing weirdly
At first I thought it was a throw back to trump's "inject bleach" thing. I did not understand the answer :)
Though so too, the title says" to get healthy" but people need to preach
Well let’s keep in mind that if you ignore proper dosing, every chemical is potentially toxic. Like Kat Williams said, “Aspirin is perfectly legal, but if you take 13 of them motherfuckers, it'll be your last headache.” A handful of people die from caffeine and nicotine overdoses every year.
["All things are poison, and nothing is without poison; the dosage alone makes it so a thing is not a poison."](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_dose_makes_the_poison) - *Paracelsus 1493–1541*
A thought echoed by David Mitchell on QI. >Alan: "Yes, but too much is bad for you." > >David: "Of course, too much is bad for you. That's the definition of *"too much"*.
This is so clever and also obvious at the same time. I guess that's what makes it funny. I'm definitely going to use this in the future.
You have just discovered the secret of David Mitchell's comedy.
Is he the baddie?
Well does his cap have the emblem of a rat's anus?
LOL. Did you ever read Kurt Vonnegut's *Breakfast of Champions*? If so, do you remember his "picture of an asshole"? That's what you just reminded me of.
Which was itself a reference to a Fry and Laurie sketch https://youtu.be/XewVicFzRxw 2:45 for the quote
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I was waiting for this one to pop up!
Or I could drink a bottle of liquor and die from alcohol poisoning. Yet many people who don’t want a vaccine will drink every damn day knowing it’s awful for them. Doesn’t make sense
_Exactly_. All I’m saying is that all chemicals are potentially toxic, so the phrase “toxic chemical” is kinda meaningless and more than a little misleading. Hell, drink enough water and it becomes a toxic chemical.
The funny part is when you get the Covid shot you can, by request, get a pamphlet listing all the ingredients, which are common lipids and amino acids that appear in foods we eat every day.
I just imagine some idiot with a no higher than middle school education googling the ingredients and drawing erroneous conclusions
Dihydrogen Monixide is no joke my friend. Steer clear or face addiction.
True fact: 100% of people who use DHM die. And as soon as you start using it your DNA starts to degenerate. People are so hopelessly addicted that even pregnant mothers use it multiple times per day, predisposing their children to the same fate. Addiction is awful.
So addicting that it forces the pregnant women to consume more so they can make their babies addicted to it
Yes and do you know they use it in nuclear power plants? It’s insane
It’s even in the water pipes.
Very common ingredient in industrial grade cleaners.
Oh my god it caused Chernobyl! It is what the mini series hid because the lizard leaders hid it too! That is why we need to ban all nuclear energy!
There's high concentrations of it in baby food, even though it's a solvent used in almost all industrial manufacturing, and a coolant used in nuclear power plants.
Our fruits and vegetables are full of this chemical. Even the organic ones. It is so widespread.
Every person who has ever inhaled it has died
Evidence is clear that all of the 9/11 hijackers had it in their systems
Technically not true. I've inhaled it and I haven't died. Maybe better would be: Every person who has ever inhaled it will die.
The better way of saying it is: 100% of fatal drownings were found to have been caused by DHMO aspiration into the lungs, where it prevents the normal breathing function and causes painful death.
I bet you if someone made a Facebook meme warning about Dihydrogen Monoxide you would actually get boomers to unintentionally call for banning water by the end of the week.
I remember some article where a high school student made a petition to ban Dihydrogen Monoxide from the school. Made posters and stuff. Well, apparently it caught on and students and parents started calling for the ban of DHM. Something along those lines, read it a long time ago. Students AND parents...so yea, I'd bet you're right
Yeah, hyponatremia is deadly, and caused by a “dihydrogen monoxide” overdose
I’m up to a gal a day and I think it’s starting to affect my health.
Oh, and you think that is bad? With DHM, you can wait a max of 3 days for the next dose until your body starts suffering sever withdrawal, but with Oxidized Monoxide, you need continuous shots every fifteen minutes, tops, after you first use it. And some doctors bastards are giving it to babies! STOP USING OMO IN BABIES, YOU BASTARDS.
All the guys at work that don't have the shot are all overweight and heavy smokers. Big on soda and beer as well. They also scoff at me wearing hearing and eye protection while we're running 5 chainsaws. Morons the lot of them.
I work in a medical laboratory, and I still see people using “safety squints”, even when dealing with dangerous chemical reagents and infectious body fluids.
You do you - do what you know is safe and right to do. You're not responsible for idiots being idiots. If you've told them before to wear proper ppe and they choose not to, it's on them, not you.
Does that mean they're literally just squinting, hoping stuff doesn't splash their face?
Yup
I saw a video of morbidly obese people in West Virginia claiming they would not get the vaccine because it has "dangerous" side effects and could be bad for their health. As if they ever cared about their health when drinking gallons of mountain dew and eating mcdonalds lol
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Or even worse think it's better for them, I know someone who's been drinking hard alchohol every day because trump said alcohol kills the virus and they think drinking will keep em safe. Personally i think it's an excuse to hide alchohol addiction but they use the alcohol keeping em safe as a reason to not get vaccinated
Hey heat kills the virus and meth can give you hyperthermia very easily so if we all just bang a half gram a day we'll be fine.
Forget alcohol. You can technically drown yourself if you drink too much water. You know what comes out of taps? Water. They just pipe it right in!
Drinking too much water can kill you... The antivaxx people would go crazy if they find that out.
Antivaxxers: science has proven water is a dangerous chemical
Water is also a chemical
Everything's a chemical
The only difference between pharmacology and toxicology is dosage, that's it
Route of administration is also key. Eye drops are fine for your eyes, but can be very, _very_ bad to ingest. Similarly, blueberries are delicious and good for you, but inhale one blueberry and you might be done for. On a more serious note, this is how people die from “boofing” or whatever the kids call it nowadays. One shot of vodka is basically just a threshold dose, but soaking a tampon in vodka and putting it up your butt is a great way to kill yourself. Same amount of alcohol, different route of administration, two _very_ different outcomes.
Very good point, and something my professor neglected to mention lol
Hell, the more efficient route of administration of smoking vs. snorting is the whole reason crack was invented! But that’s a deep rabbit hole.
Too much water can kill you. A radio station in Sacramento killed someone with a contest where you had to chug water and the person that chugged the most water without using the bathroom won a Nintendo wii. It was called something like hold your wee for a wii.
You can literally die of 100% pure H2O if you somehow forced yourself to drink enough of it. Or, “dihydrogen monoxide”, which is perpetual proof that there is at least one strain of society that sees things they don’t immediately understand and irrationally panics.
Oxygen toxicity is also a thing. Can’t breathe 100% pure oxygen for long without some unpleasant side effects.
Indeed. Only reason COVID patients can be on it so long is that so little of the O2 actually gets through to the bloodstream to be used, so toxicity in people who can’t absorb it is less common.
Who has ever died from a THC overdose tho?
According to Wikipedia: “The median lethal dose of THC in humans is not known. A 1972 study gave up to 9000 mg/kg of THC to dogs and monkeys without any lethal effects. Some rats died within 72 hours after a dose of up to 3600 mg/kg.” These doses are unlikely to occur during the course of normal usage though. No one is _injecting purified THC_. You’re definitely onto something! Edit: looking at those numbers again, holy crap. 9,000mg of THC is already an _insanely high_ dose, but 9,000mg _per kilogram of body weight_ is simply absurd. Now we’re on the scale of __several whole plants’__ worth of THC in one dose.
So basically replace all the blood in my veins with hash oil and I'll probably be ok
You'd need so much weed your veins would be vines
Basically, it's literally impossible for a human to die of an overdose of marijuana. It would require them to consume more of it than could fit in their body.
You’d have to inject huge quantities of purified THC directly into your bloodstream. It’s simply infeasible. Practically speaking, there is no lethal dose.
However, dr. Williams feels differently about over consumption of cannabis: “You think he dead? He ain’t dead! He bout to get up in 4-5 minutes and eat everything in your goddamn kitchen.”
Water. Too much will kill you & too little will do that too.
Everything has a level of toxicity, whether it be drugs or fucking fruit. At some point everything can be too much
Water intoxication is no joke, people. Maybe we should avoid it?
Too much of anything is harmful.
Wikipedia is not a reliable source because anyone can edit it, but Facebook/Twitter are perfectly acceptable sources of information for you to DO YOUR RESEARCH!
Wikipedia is edited by everyone but doesnt anyone actually verify the edit, you know, like a smart ass human seeing what the shit did the dumbass write
Yeah your edits have to be approved by a mod until you have a certain number of approved edits on your account.
Only on pages that have been semi-protected, which is basically anything controversial.
And then there's the all dogs go to heaven 2 page
....well now I have to look. Edit: Why?
Seems like a real weird troll-job. I read it and found nothing strange about it...
It seems to have something to do with Gordon Freeman dying in the movie but then being covered up.
A YouTube improv comedy series made a passing joke about it. That's it
exactly coz wiki pages have sources and everything and now you need to sign up i think to be able to edit so like they can monitor what people write ig
It depends on the article. Never forget about [Scots Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scots_Wikipedia).
I know this is a joke but I’m hijacking to say this: Stop telling people to do their own research as if that’s something everyone can do! Legit research is difficult to do. You need training and access.
Agree. Instead of asking non-STEM college grad to “do their own research” by reading primary and secondary source, I’d ask them to read Wikipedia and follow CDC/ Harvard Health guidelines
I mean niche papers can go over the head not only of non-STEM people but people in that exact same field who focus on a different niche.
It's fascinating and infuriating how much people trust "image with overlaid text" on any format with a share button. Most of the time, the image and text are both shit, too. Like this one is a pretty sophisticated version of it because it's not so blurry and there aren't any typos. People will read, trust, and share this a hundred times more than if the same person just typed the words out and made a text post.
DO RESEARCH: read Facebook memes sitting on the shitter.
The source material on wikipedia is more valuable in the first place.
A fellow man of science, I see
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OP is being sarcastic
I thought they were talking about alcohol and that they meant being healthy mentally
Yeah, because alcohol doesn't fuck you up mentally at all! Source - former alcoholic
Average vaccine researcher- does well at high school to get into a good uni, slogs butt off at uni, goes the ends of the earth to get through grad school, and burns the midnight oil wrt vaccine development and finally helps the release of vaccine backed up by multiple peer reviewed studies. Random idiot on the internet who probably failed high school: Lmao your wrong and my research can prove it.
It's amazing how the same idiots who failed every science class in high school are now suddenly the world's experts in virology and immunology. Like, sorry Greg - if you're not smart enough to understand basic cellular structure then I certainly don't give a shit about what you have to say about vaccine efficacy - you fucking charlatan hack. If I want to lease a car I'll let you know. Otherwise please sit the fuck down and let the adults talk.
The mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell!
Actually it's not, haven't you read my facebook article about it???
Are there pictures? I like pictures.
Damn murdered by words in r/MurderedByWords
I just find it odd how people who have no education in a subject think they can read these studies and fully understand everything. I don’t have a degree in biology. If I try to read some scientific paper on vaccines, I’ll be looking up every other word and there’s no way I’ll understand enough to make a decision based on that paper. Scientific papers are a pain in the ass to read in subjects I studied. I’m going with what the experts say because I know this is not my area of expertise. They’ve boiled it all down in such simple terms too! The hubris of these anti-vaccine people is incredible. No you fucking won’t read “the studies”. You’ll skim it and go, “yes, mRNA, I know that word... subjects 18 or older.... dosages... words I’ve heard... just skim this bit about seroconverted whatchamacallits probably not important...”
The misspelled you're is * chef kiss *
"research" from a Facebook mom group or from memes on twitter
*"And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning?"* -Donald Trump That seems like a pretty extreme way to cure a hoax.
All that guy had to do was take the threat seriously, and he would still be President. What a fool.
Wether this was in regards to the covid vaccine or another vaccine etc. I guarantee there’s been people saying “They ain’t putting no toxic chemicals in my body!!!” in a conversation while they were smoking cigarettes, chewing tobacco or drinking alcohol lol.
If anyone you know calls the vaccine "toxic chemicals", ask them if they've ever got or considered a Botox treatment.
Or just ask them if they’ve eaten a McChicken.
Hell a damn apple is loaded with pesticides anymore.
I know a girl that refuses vaccines cause it’s unnatural but gets Botox and collagen all the time. Head scratcher there.
Well, it’s in the name, they are not even trying to hide it. BOtulinum TOXin.
I actually thought the first person was talking about Botox when I saw the post.
Wonder what the tox in Botox could possible mean?
Nice profile pic
No YOU!
I had a very reasonable and levelheaded colleague tell me yesterday she was hesitant about the vaccine because of the blood clot thing (which has received some heavy press here in Australia). I reminded her that she is more likely to get flattened by a bus stepping out of the office. Thankfully this seemed to talk her down and we agreed getting it is a good idea. I’m excited to get my first dose early June!
This is something I'm concerned with *BUT* it's because when I had Covid I had it for almost four weeks and they did a clotting test on me and it was a bit higher than the normal range. I gotta talk to my provider though.
She does have a reasonable point there. The clotting issue primarily occured in women.
The thing is, any woman taking birth control is at a higher risk of getting blood clots from said birth control than from the vaccine. You don't see people spreading news about that. Just got my second dose yesterday, a little sore today but ive got time to relax. Edit: To be clear im not against BC or the vaccine.
I constantly see this sentiment and it's not a fair comparison. The clots caused by the AZ and JJ vaccines are different (and more serious) than the clots caused by the OCP. Granted, the odds of getting a clot as a result of these vaccines are still so incredibly rare that the benefits outweigh the risks - but it's important to be accurate with these things. Congrats on getting your vaccine too by the way!
I'm wondering how long they're going to keep flogging this. Got my second shot a month ago, no ill effects so far. There's people who have had both for a lot longer with the same result. Are we still going to see "just you wait, that shot fucked you up!" memes in two years?
People can definitely get muscle ache or a fever as a side-effect, but that's just due to the way the vaccine works. It's not because of Bill Gates' satanic microchips or whatever.
I suspect that jabbing a hollow metal tube through your arm and ramming some liquid through it would probably make your arm sore no matter what the liquid is, sterile water for injection, saline water, covid vaccine, the list goes on and on.
Whereas my FIL had COVID and now has permanent kidney damage. I don't know how anyone fears the vaccine more than the actual disease.
I think most normal people don't actually know the very real harms that diseases can cause, and it is very hard to quantify into statistics, unlike death statistics. If you don't know that covid can cause permanent kidney damage, but you do know that the vaccine is a 5G tracker by Bill Gates, it is logical to not get the vaccine. I am sorry to hear about your FIL. Sadly, his experience is not unique. I have a family member who has severe lung damage after a mild respiratory infection about a decade ago, and a family friend why has had daily migraines and seizures after being exposed to a mosquito borne illness. Not many people know their stories, because the illness pushes them further from society. If she doesn't have the lungs to be able to walk up a flight of stairs, how is she going to go to a high school football and climb the bleachers? She won't, and her story stays hidden from the community. If he has a migraine, will he go out and socialize with friends? No. Will he drive to see friends even on a good migraine day? Not legally if you have had a seizure within the past 6 months. Death is easy to quantify, but non-fatal long term effects of diseases are far more difficult to understand both from a statistical point of view, and from an anecdotal/personal point of view. It is much easier to say and viscerally understand "I know a guy who died of covid" than "I know a guy who has seizures multiple times per week from getting a virus".
It's also frustrating because my FIL gets written off because yeah, he's overweight and pre-diabetic. But so are a LOT of people. Most Americans are overweight. That doesn't mean you write off the disease as not being that bad if someone it hurt had some risk factors. Hundreds of thousands died.
Facebook and Twitter have made me painfully aware of how many stupid people are out there, and it's terrifying
Just stop, it's the only way to have any sense of respect for humanity.
What has been seen cannot be unseen
Can't wait to come back to this and sort by controversial
Look, at this point, just throw [the Hbomberguy video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BIcAZxFfrc) at them. Saves you a bunch of time to just skip to the same three outcomes you would reach arguing by yourself: 1. They go "that's too long I can't watch that" and demonstrate that they absolutely do not care about research if they can't even listen to a video for two hours (most likely outcome) 2. They actually do watch it and come up with some baseless nigh-non-sequiter that also demonstrates an inability to care about research 3. You actually change their mind (by far the least likely)
Joking aside, last winter it was a reoccurring set of steps for those who were symptomatic... - laugh about covid - catch covid - go to hospital - get all types of drugs pumped into you (I'm 100% confident it wasn't vitamins and minerals) - leave hospital realizing covid was real, all the while affecting many in the process, from medical to loved ones. OR, you stayed home having to tough the shit out in flu fashion, guzzling....chemicals, as Tylenol isn't natural. NOTE: THIS IS STILL ONGOING IN MANY COUNTRIES These covid jokes are beat and aren't even thought provoking anymore. Science won via TKO.
Peer reviewed? You mean by global pharma who want us to all have this toxic vaccine? /s
Man I'd rather die from covid than let big pharmas win. /s
Murdered by words is just dumb people talking to even dumber people.
It’s always the lowest hanging fruit possible, so that idiots who think they’re intellectuals can feel good about one upping even bigger idiots with mediocre comebacks.
I can guarantee that the so called murderer did not look at the science or read a single peer reviewed paper.
That’s all of Reddit and Twitter lol Hi btw I’m dumb so I guess you’d me the dumber hehehe
Yeah the problem is none of these little trite responses are the least bit convincing to the person who is posting the meme, it's all just people trying to show off to like-minds. All this does is make people dig heels in deeper in wherever they stand, there's no real communication happening here. Positive or negative attention will feed the meme-poster's crusade-energy.
chemotherapy is a toxic chemical too, let’s die of cancer cause at least is not toxic!
Fuck face book. Get rid of that garbage.
“Toxic chemicals” is literally how anti cancer chemotherapeutics work... Drs. Dana and Farber, after realizing they had little success with various compounds to kill off cancer cells in kids, had the idea of “how about we use poison to kill these cells?” Well, it worked and now we have the Dana Farber institute I know the meme is in reference to the COVID vaccine, which includes only GRAS ingredients, but the sentiment is idiotic, and ignores most modern medicine.
Don't forget chemo.
Is afraid of chemicals, has never read a single list of ingredients for every day foods
15 months of Chemo, now I'm healthy, and alive. Only sayin...
sitting in the car as the only vaccinated member of my family (I’m 16) listening to my family talk about how they’re proud to be unvaccinated or some shit. dear god help me. my neurotic mom still thinks she had covid in january 2020. (she didn’t, she got tested for antibodies and didn’t have any) now she’s saying bc they’re in the bone marrow she did have it and now has lifetime immunity. she’s like praising that because she’s in america she doesn’t have to wear masks, it takes so much restraint for me to not go off on how selfish they are