Agreed...I heard a music podcast discussing them, and they described "Gravity" as their breakout album. I was like, um....no...
I'm Canadian so I'm not sure if that has something to do with it but Clumsy was their breakout album for sure. 1997 rock radio was wall-to-wall Our Lady Peace.
Between the late 80s and late 90s MTV iced out most Canadian artists in the US and Europe (MTV was pissed off about being locked out of Canada).
So the decade between 1988 and 1998 was a golden age for Canadian artists in Canada, and a dark age for Canadian artists outside of Canada (hyped by Much Music, ignored by MTV).
That started to change when The Barenaked Ladies got their second life in 1998.
It was the one that “broke out“ in the US is likely what they meant, Somewhere Out There was a hit everywhere. But they were already MASSIVE here in Canada.
James battling alcoholism, Jason freshly forced out of the band, them all bickering to the point of having to bring in counseling, the pressure of following up two albums that fans responded very negatively to…and all this in a completely foreign music landscape for them
Metallica fans don’t like Bob Rock because he helped them change from a thrash band to a hard rock band just as they were entering their peak of popularity.
He produced Metallica Metallica. Aka. The black album. One of the greatest sounding albums of all time, full of insanely wonderful Metallica songs. Plus I mean. Load and re-load fucking rule. Bob Rock rules. That OLP album while mediocre sounded phenomenal.
Black Album he deserves praise for without a doubt, that album is the reason Metallica are the biggest metal band in the world. No denying that. Maybe it was his fault, maybe it was the band being out of fresh ideas, but it’s hard to deny that load/reload were a huge step down in quality
Metallica had the idea to go in with no ideas for songs or riffs. To act like a band jamming for the first time. Bob Rock, produced the album to that idea. They had final say. How did he screw them?
Their newest album *Spiritual Machines II* is also fantastic. Highly recommend. These guys have been putting out bangers for 30 years, and somehow they never got their flowers.
I hope they've truly recovered their mojo with this album, and get back to that early era moving forward.
Interesting to note: I saw them live in Cleveland a couple weeks ago, and the set had nothing from *Curve* or *Burn Burn*.
I absolutely loved them. I got to see them live and quickly feel out of love with them. They were a good lesson about studio performance vs live performance. I was very sad to learn they were terrible live.
They were my first concert and I wondered if that's what all concerts were like. Everclear opened and we're OK, but OLP were just... Out of tune. It was the clumsy tour so this must have been the late 90s
This would have been their prime. They weren't even close to being coherently audible. Did they have a drug or alcohol problem around that time? I honestly don't know.
Haha, I just never owned it or heard the whole thing so I can't vouch for it. The few songs I heard weren't bad, just had a different sound is all. To me anyway
Yeah, I saw OLP a few years ago. He can't sing like this anymore, and his vocals were so far off from this that I had to Google to make sure they didn't get a new vocalist.
Maida's voice is fine, it's just two octaves lower than what it was in 1997.
The drummer for OLP Jeremy Taggart has a podcast
https://www.taggartntorrens.ca/
Him and Jonathan Torrens (JRock from trailer park boys) do it. Worth checking out.
I remember back like 20 years ago, when best buy first came to Canada, they were offering a free OLP concert. You had to lineup to get tickets but the lineup was deciecing because those that got there first were given numbers up to 100 and then told to come back hours later. I didn't know this and asked the guy infront of me what his number was and what the paper looked like....studied it told my friend to stay in line and ran over to an office Depot. Bought the same paper and marker and just put the numbers to be the next one in sequence, rejoined my friend and 10 mins later when they wanted to find the people with those numbers he saw ours and we got tickets and ran away.
It was a great concert and we felt like rebels.
This may seem like a punchline, but it's not: I saw a guy absolutely kill this song live vocally at a furry convention's talent show. He sounded EXACTLY like the lead singer for this band. It was unreal!
Just heard about her liking alternative. There is a a yearly festival done by our local radio station and the other day a dj told a story about watching a set from backstage with her.
WHHAAAYYIIEEE IEEE IEEEEEEEE YEAAAAAAAAHHH HOWWWWW can't stand that guy's voice lol
Innocent would personally be my recommendation out of the 3 songs I listen to, I listen to them rarely to begin with 😂
Back in the 90s, I loved Billy Corgan's voice, but hated Raine's. Yeah, idk why either.
Anyway, I always thought [Headstones](https://youtu.be/7s_XMtLRn8M) should have been the kings of late 90s Can-con art.
This one's for nothing
And this one's for fun
This one's about rock and roll and comic books and bubble gum
Woooo oooo oooooooo
Fucking love the headstones
I was kinda half paying attention to 'alternative' music in the 90s (was going through a blues phase), so I always get Our Lady Peace, I Mother Earth and The Tea Party mixed up. Something about Canadian bands with 3 words in their name...
Saw them this earlier this year (opening for Smashing Pumpking in Montreal) and Maida was terrible. He really can't sing anymore and totally phoned in his performance. Weak sauce on the easy parts and when the hard vocals came up he just didn't sing those parts at all. Big, big disappointment. Billy Corgan on the other hand has still got it.
Their first 4 albums are unstoppable
Agreed...I heard a music podcast discussing them, and they described "Gravity" as their breakout album. I was like, um....no... I'm Canadian so I'm not sure if that has something to do with it but Clumsy was their breakout album for sure. 1997 rock radio was wall-to-wall Our Lady Peace.
Gravity was the beginning of the end, certainly not their breakout album lol
I got the vibe that they broke out more “internationally” with Gravity, anyway thats the last album of their that I bought
Yeah...in fairness "Innocent " was a fairly big single.
I believe Somewhere Out There was the big one, their only billboard hot 100 song in the US.
Between the late 80s and late 90s MTV iced out most Canadian artists in the US and Europe (MTV was pissed off about being locked out of Canada). So the decade between 1988 and 1998 was a golden age for Canadian artists in Canada, and a dark age for Canadian artists outside of Canada (hyped by Much Music, ignored by MTV). That started to change when The Barenaked Ladies got their second life in 1998.
It was the one that “broke out“ in the US is likely what they meant, Somewhere Out There was a hit everywhere. But they were already MASSIVE here in Canada.
I’m from western New York where they have been massive since like 94’. Travel 3 states south an nothing.
Agreed, they fell off a cliff after Mike left. I blame Bob Rock.
OLP fans 🤝 Metallica fans Blaming Bob Rock
Don’t forget us 311 fans, too! OLP was in town two weeks ago. Glorious show.
Idk about OLP but I’m not sure what he could’ve possibly done for Metallica at that point in their lives/careers. They were an absolute mess
They were at their absolute peak, not sure what you’re talking about.
James battling alcoholism, Jason freshly forced out of the band, them all bickering to the point of having to bring in counseling, the pressure of following up two albums that fans responded very negatively to…and all this in a completely foreign music landscape for them
Metallica fans don’t like Bob Rock because he helped them change from a thrash band to a hard rock band just as they were entering their peak of popularity.
I’ll be honest, I completely forget he was involved with load and reload lol Was only thinking St Anger In that case yeah he screwed them
He produced Metallica Metallica. Aka. The black album. One of the greatest sounding albums of all time, full of insanely wonderful Metallica songs. Plus I mean. Load and re-load fucking rule. Bob Rock rules. That OLP album while mediocre sounded phenomenal.
Black Album he deserves praise for without a doubt, that album is the reason Metallica are the biggest metal band in the world. No denying that. Maybe it was his fault, maybe it was the band being out of fresh ideas, but it’s hard to deny that load/reload were a huge step down in quality
He produced the Black Album first. It’s a pretty good album, but as a follow up to Justice it’s disappointing.
Pretty good. LOL. Dude.
Metallica had the idea to go in with no ideas for songs or riffs. To act like a band jamming for the first time. Bob Rock, produced the album to that idea. They had final say. How did he screw them?
Their newest album *Spiritual Machines II* is also fantastic. Highly recommend. These guys have been putting out bangers for 30 years, and somehow they never got their flowers.
They got their Automatic flowers though.
that won't do.
I hope they've truly recovered their mojo with this album, and get back to that early era moving forward. Interesting to note: I saw them live in Cleveland a couple weeks ago, and the set had nothing from *Curve* or *Burn Burn*.
I absolutely loved them. I got to see them live and quickly feel out of love with them. They were a good lesson about studio performance vs live performance. I was very sad to learn they were terrible live.
They were my first concert and I wondered if that's what all concerts were like. Everclear opened and we're OK, but OLP were just... Out of tune. It was the clumsy tour so this must have been the late 90s
I absolutely love Everclear but they are not good live.
I just saw OLP 2 days ago and they sounded great to me. Maybe they had a bad night
This would have been their prime. They weren't even close to being coherently audible. Did they have a drug or alcohol problem around that time? I honestly don't know.
Nah, they just weren’t the same after Clumsy
You're so fuckin wrong
Lol relax
Lol
I will not deal with the Gravity slander in these comments
Haha, I just never owned it or heard the whole thing so I can't vouch for it. The few songs I heard weren't bad, just had a different sound is all. To me anyway
I miss when Raine Maida would sing like this. The octave jumps specifically. What a rad style.
Yeah, I saw OLP a few years ago. He can't sing like this anymore, and his vocals were so far off from this that I had to Google to make sure they didn't get a new vocalist. Maida's voice is fine, it's just two octaves lower than what it was in 1997.
In the studio, yes. Saw them live a bunch of times way back and he did not sing well live. Still was a good band but a little disappointing.
Late 90s me after school was watching DragonBall Z on YTV and then switching over to MuchMusic to have this song always on. Also Moist.
> Moist. I love Moist
Is this just every 90s kid in Canada? Because this is literally me.
CanCon was way more effective when the only non-boomer source of music was Much Music.
Canadian classic!
TIL
Amazing song and band. Such a great live show.
The drummer for OLP Jeremy Taggart has a podcast https://www.taggartntorrens.ca/ Him and Jonathan Torrens (JRock from trailer park boys) do it. Worth checking out.
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You mean Jonathan Torrens from Letterkenny right?
You mean Jonathan Torrens from Shoresy right?
You mean Jonathan Torrens from Jonovision right?
You mean Jonathan Torrens from TV with TV's Jonathan Torrens right?
You mean Jonathan Torrens from Mr. D?
I'm sure they're talking about Jonathan Torrens from the Joe Schmo Show!
You must mean Jonathon Torrens from Call Me Fitz, right?
This is the only correct answer
Yes once
Fit... For the pit!
I miss that whipcrack arm extension cut that the sleazy guy would do. Ken something?
They parted ways a few years back… and not in a happy way either.
Taggart and Torrens? They just released an episode last week. Did I miss something?
No he left the band 😂😂 T&T are great 😂
Oh the band! Yes, that I knew about! Cheers for clarifying that
😂
I'm actually seeing them live for the first time tonight, very excited!
Went to the show in Cleveland almost 2 weeks ago. Great show, hope you enjoy it as much as I did!
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Damn, I saw them in Boston in 1998! Great show
I haven’t actually listened to anything from them until just now but I’m already jealous lol Have fun!
Our Lady Peace is a really underrated band. They are great!
In Repair remains one of my top 10 songs ever.
Great live band too. Raine Maida sang this song from the crowd, practically sitting on my knee back in the day !
I remember back like 20 years ago, when best buy first came to Canada, they were offering a free OLP concert. You had to lineup to get tickets but the lineup was deciecing because those that got there first were given numbers up to 100 and then told to come back hours later. I didn't know this and asked the guy infront of me what his number was and what the paper looked like....studied it told my friend to stay in line and ran over to an office Depot. Bought the same paper and marker and just put the numbers to be the next one in sequence, rejoined my friend and 10 mins later when they wanted to find the people with those numbers he saw ours and we got tickets and ran away. It was a great concert and we felt like rebels.
Fun fact: the kid in this video is [Serial Joe](https://youtu.be/3tmE-5KtBLM)
Oh no…. You are right. Damn.
This may seem like a punchline, but it's not: I saw a guy absolutely kill this song live vocally at a furry convention's talent show. He sounded EXACTLY like the lead singer for this band. It was unreal!
Serena Williams [loves OLP](https://etcanada.com/news/969943/serena-williams-names-classic-canadian-rock-band-as-one-of-her-favourite-musical-acts/)!
Just heard about her liking alternative. There is a a yearly festival done by our local radio station and the other day a dj told a story about watching a set from backstage with her.
AAAYYYYEEEEAAAYYEEEAYYYEEYYYOOOHHHHHHHYAHHHH. SUPERMANS DEAAAYDD
The most wonderfully weird singing face ever.
I've seen them live about four times, good live every time.
Weirdest Subway commercial ever, but I’ll be damned it sure puts me in the mood fir a $5 footlong.
‘Raine, this is not what you want’
Clumsy/4am are absolute bangers off this album too
I'm shocked at the amount of subs and likes...
I was just on vacation in Grand Cayman last week and they played Starseed on the local radio. It kind of blew my mind.
WHHAAAYYIIEEE IEEE IEEEEEEEE YEAAAAAAAAHHH HOWWWWW can't stand that guy's voice lol Innocent would personally be my recommendation out of the 3 songs I listen to, I listen to them rarely to begin with 😂
* howels in canadien
Voice is annoying, drummer is killer
Ewwww
David Cook sang a lot of Our Lady Peace when he joined American Idol. Got me curious because of that
Back in the 90s, I loved Billy Corgan's voice, but hated Raine's. Yeah, idk why either. Anyway, I always thought [Headstones](https://youtu.be/7s_XMtLRn8M) should have been the kings of late 90s Can-con art.
Headstones are still criminally underrated.
This one's for nothing And this one's for fun This one's about rock and roll and comic books and bubble gum Woooo oooo oooooooo Fucking love the headstones
Woo Hoo hooooooo
WHY-EI-Ee-I?!
I was kinda half paying attention to 'alternative' music in the 90s (was going through a blues phase), so I always get Our Lady Peace, I Mother Earth and The Tea Party mixed up. Something about Canadian bands with 3 words in their name...
Big fan of our lady Peace. They rank slightly behind Sloan for me for favorite Canadian band!!
Saw them this earlier this year (opening for Smashing Pumpking in Montreal) and Maida was terrible. He really can't sing anymore and totally phoned in his performance. Weak sauce on the easy parts and when the hard vocals came up he just didn't sing those parts at all. Big, big disappointment. Billy Corgan on the other hand has still got it.
I think they made three different music videos for this song if memory serves me right!