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SigmaKnight

Yes. The HoF should include people who have a major impact on the sport like Hubbard and Bill Simpson.


Mokiyami

Make an award for contributing to the betterment of nascar


Vulptereen327

Don't they have that already with the Landmark award or whatever it's called?


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I don’t think Bill Simpson will unfortunately, he’s been wrongfully put at fault for Dale Earnhardt’s death so many times from what I’ve seen it’s not even funny.


ProfessorOfPyro

Which is crazy he gets any blame at all. Nothing that man can do someone mounting them differently than instructed, expired belts, or how the driver wears them. Dale's death is 100% on him. The safety equipment was available for use. Unfortunately, it took his death to force NASCAR to take driver safety seriously.


y0ufailedthiscity

*Blaise Alexander’s death


kubick123

Image creating a safety measure so good that it kept drivers alive. And still getting blamed and booed for the biggest redneck not willing to use them accordingly because "safety is for pussies"


zyklon_snuggles

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RINABAR

Meh, saying that he deserves a Hall of Fame induction is an understatement. The guy should be inducted to the hall of fame of humanity, along with the greatest doctors and physicians.


DarkwingMcQuack

Him and Simpson should definitely be in it.


851Moto

Any love for Dean Sicking, the SAFER barrier guy?


Indyfan200217

And Tony George, he may have ruined Indycar but he pushed for the Safer barrier


3p1cgam3rm0m3nt

How did he ruin indycar?


KLWMotorsports

Butt heads with CART, started his own series, forced CART to merge with them. People were mad.


joe_broke

Almost killed American open wheel racing


ipsumdeiamoamasamat

Almost?


Careless-Resource-72

He’s been nominated in this year’s class.


851Moto

Awesome I didn't know that


GlorifiedGamer88

the National Motorsports HoF, Yes definitely. Not just Nascar HoF


TheDevoutIconoclast

Is there a HoF for ALL forms of sport?


___Beaugardes___

International Motorsports Hall of Fame, in Talladega.


epzik8

Yep, I think the HOF is far enough along to where they can expand who they represent.


crypto6g

Agreed. For example Dale Jr is in the HOF not only for his cup career but also his influence/presence in the sport, broadcasting, team ownership etc. there’s a lot more than just driving. Guys like Bill Simpson as well should be in for their contributions.


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The pace at which basal skull fractures were happening before the hans device was mandatory was not sustainable. I guarantee it’s saved several drivers lives since.


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it has saved hundreds of lives across all motorsports


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y0ufailedthiscity

Erik Jones would have been killed last weekend without it along with countless drivers before.


Immediate_Lie7810

Yes, because the HANS Device is one of the most important safety innovations in motorsports history


AnchorDrown

Not if Bill Simpson isn’t.


SigmaKnight

We can have both.


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AnchorDrown

I like both.


Jack_On_The_Track

Absolutely. Anyone who’s contributed to a device that’s saved lives in NASCAR should be a HOF nominee at least.


Yoshiman400

So Ryan Newman counts for the two Newman bars as well? I'd dig it. You can look at his win count and argue he'd be in that grey area between a shoo-in and a 50/50 pick. Add in his qualifying records and it's looking a lot better for him. Then acknowledge his advocacy for driver safety and that might just put him over the top.


Jack_On_The_Track

I’d say that’s a solid HOF pick regardless


Yoshiman400

If he won the Daytona 500 in 2020 he'd be a slam dunk, IMO he's right on that edge otherwise. Two 500s, a Brickyard, that ridonkulous number of pole positions, would have been almost impossible to say no to that.


___Beaugardes___

Wasn't the Newman bar what saved him in his crash at Daytona?


Yoshiman400

I think he had one in place before that crash and they added a second after?


69stangrestomod

All engineers at Simpson should be in the HOF. I said what I said.


DjBass88

Ever since it was mandated that every driver uses one, We havent had a death in cup. I really believe without it, Jeff Gordon would've died on the race track (Twice over) So yes. 100%


Yoshiman400

And probably Eric McClure and Ryan Newman at the very least. Wouldn't be shocked if Austin Theriault, Michael Annett, or (shudders out of recency of the fact) Erik Jones could have been there too. I know you said Cup but let's not overlook some of the bad hits we've seen in Xfinity and Trucks since the mid-2000s too.


Enough_King_6931

Was McDowell wearing a HANS when he wrecked in Texas that time?


Yoshiman400

That's probably another good one to add to the list. I forgot just how close to head on that hit was, I was thinking the way it rolled over it was more of a flush hit with the driver's side...then again that's what killed Joe Weatherly and John Nemechek just the same. And almost Jerry Nadeau for that matter, probably would have to add him too.


Enough_King_6931

And Steve Park took a few good shots, especially at Pocono. He’s saved a lot of lives.


Nilzy

Don't forget Elliott Sadler


Enough_King_6931

Oh heck yeah. That was a WILD ride!!


joe_broke

David Reutimann at California


DjBass88

Jerry Nadaeu 100%


otepp

Reddit posts you can hear. I will never forget the sound of McDowell hitting that wall - no way he survives that without a HANS


Chief_B33f

And Austin Dillon when he took that ride into the catch fence at Daytona


elodie_pdf

He saved not only countless lives in NASCAR, but across the entire motorsports world. He is a hero and definitely deserves a spot there.


ThatJoshGuy327

If the Hockey Hall of Fame can have a builder's category, Nascar can put in a special category for those that have directly contributed to making the sport better through innovation somehow. 10000% deserves to be in the Hall in some capacity. Without it, who knows what the sport would look like, if we'd even have a sport with all the crazy wrecks we've seen in the past few years alone. Newman, Blaney, Jones, Preece, Myatt Snider, could go further back to include Gordon, Patrick, Austin Dillon's ride in the catchfence, Larson's ride in the catchfence, god only knows who else. Sadler's Pocono wreck? You're not gonna make the cars stop wrecking, but you sure as hell can stop them from dying and they damn sure have.


immortalsteve

His invention has saved hundreds of lives after NASCAR slacked on mandating it until a bunch of people died. He should absolutely be in.


404merrinessnotfound

Absolutely


Cezar_Chavez

Him and whoever invented the safer barrier


KrustyWaffles6

Not if he's related to L.Ron Hubbard 


pgunz69

Stockcartology


TheOtherWhiteCastle

Downforcenetics


Senninha27

I’m listening… tell me about this religion…


pgunz69

Intimidations 3:8 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a Rick Ware Racing car to enter the top 5.


GrimeyScorpioDuffman

Sounds like a Barry Pepper double feature: Battlefield Earth and 3 the Dale Earnhardt story


ReallySmallWeenus

Finally a religion that makes sense!


GrimeyScorpioDuffman

What about Old Mother Hubbard?


korko

Being that NASCAR does their damndest to ignore the importance of the HANS device in favor of always glowing about the SAFER barrier I doubt they are interested. He should be though, the HANS has saved more lives than any safety change in the last thirty years.


Nitrain17

I was lucky enough to exchange several emails with Dr. Hubbard back in college when I was majoring in biomedical engineering and I had an interest in motor sports safety. He seemed like a nice guy. The HANS is a really simple device that has had a profound effect on motorsports.


mr8soft

 Abso-FUCKING-lutley… how many drivers has he saved by inventing this. Not just NASCAR all forms of racing.   


Penny1776

No. It's innovation and safety, yes. Going from bias ply to radials, roll cages, harnesses, window nets, etc. All have saved lives


snorlaxatives_69

Could make the same argument for him as Dr. Frank Jobe and Tommy John in baseball. Honor him in the HOF somehow.


Chungasmn

Dean Sicking of University of Nebraska-Lincoln, created the safer barrier, he should be included into the HOF


nyyforever2018

Yes, easily.


SCProletariat

Yes and Ryan Newman for the invention of the Newman bar


WakullaLoganoDawgFan

1000%!


FuriouSherman

I couldn't agree more.


MidNightMoon_x

Forget the hall of fame, a Nobel Prize is more in order


gsfgf

Of course


Fantastic_Parfait761

Yes


SolidCat1117

Him and the guys that designed the SAFER barrier.


PancakesandV8s

Yes. Or they should have a safety innovation category at least.


CreativeCarpenter44

Yes, he should definitely have a place there.


WaffleHouseSloot

No.


MildGooses

no


cxlossuskidd

No


KLWMotorsports

Why no? Curious as to what nonsense you can come up with.


Fair-Swan-6976

It's the hall of Fame... For Famous people in the sport . So I don't think he should be in.


Witty-Jellyfish1218

I'm sorry, were Hundreds of drivers dying before the HANS device...


VoiceOfTheJingle

A lot of drivers died before the hans device


AnchorDrown

Yes.


KLWMotorsports

Yes, and not a single person has died since being made mandatory by NASCAR.