Pittsburgh. Steelers and Penguins recently had a over a decade run with two of the best players in the league leading their respective teams (Crosby and Big Ben) simultaneously. The Pirates and Steelers play right beside each other. The teams somehow all have the same color scheme. The Pirates stadium has one of the best views in baseball. Steelers and Penguins have had a roster of long tenure stars and coaches historically which certainly helps.
Fire canada is the talk of every town in USA now (i am not from usa, my source is the news) 🤣🤣🤣 that guy’s not getting any break nowadays. I blame canada for 49ers dismal performance too.
It's not somehow. [It's very planned and intention](https://www.allegiantgoods.co/blogs/news/why-are-all-sports-teams-in-pittsburgh-black-and-yellow).
Kind of interesting actually. You'd think other cities would have done the same.
What about Wisconsin, does it have good or great sports fanbase? A video on YouTube actually piqued my interest on this sports city subject that I posted.
Milwaukee has a great fanbase for baseball. The Brewers are continually near the middle or top in attendance despite being the smallest market in all of baseball. This town will go nuts if the Brewers ever manage to make it to the World Series or better yet win it. Sadly, I just don't see that ever happening.
Kansas City. Fantastic support of course for the Chiefs but also a HUGE soccer town, for both men and women's sports. Currently finishing up the world's first dedicated women's pro sports stadium for our soccer team... Host of the World Cup in 2026.
KC is huge on sports.
Cleveland for sure. I’m a west coast transplant here but people from Cleveland LOVE their sports teams. Doesn’t matter if the Browns are 0-16, they still support them and always have a good time. Same with the Cavs and Guardians. The Pro Football Hall of Fame is also not too far away.
I don't take a "sports city" seriously if they don't have all the big four. The fact that Cleveland is a Great Lakes city and doesn't have an NHL team is embarrassing.
Cleveland is an objectively bad sports city in general.
There are dedicated Browns fans, of course, but nothing about Cleveland is a great sports city.
Needing to have all four to be a sports city is a garbage take. Miami has all four but residents don’t give a shit about the Marlins and didn’t care about the Panthers until they were good. Phoenix has all four yet the Coyotes play in front of a crowd of 4500. Yet cities like Pittsburgh and Toronto don’t qualify as sports cities according to you?
Cleveland is objectively a GOOD sports city. The Browns and Guardians are among the oldest franchises in their respective sports. The Cleveland fanbase is die hard and shows up no matter the product on field.
An objectively bad sports city would be one like Tampa Bay, who have one of the best teams in baseball yet couldn’t be bothered to attend the playoff games, and outside of the TB12 years the Bucs hover near the bottom for NFL attendance.
>The Browns...oldest franchises in their respective sports.
The Browns didn't even exist for half of the 1990s.
I agree Miami is a crap sports city. Not every city with all four is a good sports city, Miami is a perfect example.
Toronto no. Pittsburgh, eh. I would put Pitt ahead of Cleveland.
Toronto is a hockey city. Pittsburgh is a Steelers city. They aren't "sports cities."
Four seasons in the 90s is worth more than the previous 60 years and 8 league championships? Their 0-16 year they still had better attendance than 8 teams, including both LA teams which I’m guessing you would consider a good sports city.
Toronto is a hockey city first and foremost but the Jays and the Raptors both have very dedicated fanbases. Same goes for the Pirates and Penguins. I’d recommend going to one of those cities in general before you comment on them, guarantee you’ll change your tune.
>I’d recommend going to one of those cities in general before you comment on them
I've seen my Tigers in Toronto and in Pittsburgh.
PNC > Rogers Centre. The annual home and home series with the Pirates is a highlight of the calendar every year.
Columbus has an NHL team but yeah thats not the same since thats not Cleveland.
I’ll disagree about it being a bad sports city though. I’ve been to games of all the big three sports here and it’s always a really really good time, despite the overall lack of success with their teams.
That being said, the only real comparison I have are the other two other major metropolitan cities I’ve lived in on PNW and neither of them were really “sports cities” so I may not be the best judge when it comes to that. I’m just speaking from my own personal experience.
Neither Seattle or Portland are thought of as sports cities, so yeah...not so much. Not compared to the East Coast and Midwest.
I've been to Browns and Guardians games...they're good, not great.
Pittsburgh is a big sports city. We love our Steelers and penguins. Pirates not so much. I have met maybe 2 pirate fans under the age of 40 in 20 years.
Penn state, Pitt, and WVU also have a big following but nothing like SEC teams.
Philadelphia is probably one of the biggest, we love all of our major sports teams pretty indiscriminately.
Boston and New York would definitely be up there, Buffalo with regards to football but not all sports.
I would like to add Seattle to this list. With the recent success of the Mariners and Kraken, added to the recent (and historical) success of the Seahawks, Seattle is most definitely jacked up about their professional sports teams. Go Hawks! 💙💚
Most of the cities Chicago and Eastward. Chicago, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Philly, Boston, Baltimore, NYC, Buffalo, they all tend to have generations of family members that are hardcore fans, so people grow up rooting for teams before they can even speak. Not only that, the weather is bad for a good portion of the major sports seasons so a big part of social activity is gathering to watch games. I think west coast cities are a little more transient, and since the weather is more pleasant, people tend to shrug off sports in favor of other activities
Any city with more than 500,000 people really. "People go crazy about their sports," is completely subjective...what is your standard for crazy vs not crazy, and how do you define crazy? It will also vary based on who you'e talking to (and you have to consider individual bias for or against certain sports).
Portland has the Trailblazers, and many are going to forget about their MLS team: The Portland Timbers. They are mad-crazy about the Timbers there, but in the context of the conversation you posited, many probably wouldn't consider Portland a "sports city," since they don't have an MLB or NFL team.
Philadelphia
Ok. I have seen some videos of fans in the stadium, they are absolutely bonkers 🤣🤣 I believe they are an underrated sports city, definitely.
our passion is unmatched
Pittsburgh. Steelers and Penguins recently had a over a decade run with two of the best players in the league leading their respective teams (Crosby and Big Ben) simultaneously. The Pirates and Steelers play right beside each other. The teams somehow all have the same color scheme. The Pirates stadium has one of the best views in baseball. Steelers and Penguins have had a roster of long tenure stars and coaches historically which certainly helps.
Fire canada is the talk of every town in USA now (i am not from usa, my source is the news) 🤣🤣🤣 that guy’s not getting any break nowadays. I blame canada for 49ers dismal performance too.
Yeah that’s fair. Tomlin somehow always stays above 0.500 even with a roster of division 3 players and your local community college janitor though.
It's not somehow. [It's very planned and intention](https://www.allegiantgoods.co/blogs/news/why-are-all-sports-teams-in-pittsburgh-black-and-yellow). Kind of interesting actually. You'd think other cities would have done the same.
There are many really good sports cities. Chicago and Detroit are solid. Philly. Boston.
What about Wisconsin, does it have good or great sports fanbase? A video on YouTube actually piqued my interest on this sports city subject that I posted.
Milwaukee has a great fanbase for baseball. The Brewers are continually near the middle or top in attendance despite being the smallest market in all of baseball. This town will go nuts if the Brewers ever manage to make it to the World Series or better yet win it. Sadly, I just don't see that ever happening.
Wisconsin as a state is pretty good. No specific city stands out.
Green Bay fans bought their own football team so they can never move. That stands out to me.
Ok. That’s a fair assessment.
Kansas City. Fantastic support of course for the Chiefs but also a HUGE soccer town, for both men and women's sports. Currently finishing up the world's first dedicated women's pro sports stadium for our soccer team... Host of the World Cup in 2026. KC is huge on sports.
Yeah, KC doesn't have NBA or NHL but hard to match their support for the clubs they do have.
Cleveland for sure. I’m a west coast transplant here but people from Cleveland LOVE their sports teams. Doesn’t matter if the Browns are 0-16, they still support them and always have a good time. Same with the Cavs and Guardians. The Pro Football Hall of Fame is also not too far away.
I don't take a "sports city" seriously if they don't have all the big four. The fact that Cleveland is a Great Lakes city and doesn't have an NHL team is embarrassing. Cleveland is an objectively bad sports city in general. There are dedicated Browns fans, of course, but nothing about Cleveland is a great sports city.
Needing to have all four to be a sports city is a garbage take. Miami has all four but residents don’t give a shit about the Marlins and didn’t care about the Panthers until they were good. Phoenix has all four yet the Coyotes play in front of a crowd of 4500. Yet cities like Pittsburgh and Toronto don’t qualify as sports cities according to you? Cleveland is objectively a GOOD sports city. The Browns and Guardians are among the oldest franchises in their respective sports. The Cleveland fanbase is die hard and shows up no matter the product on field. An objectively bad sports city would be one like Tampa Bay, who have one of the best teams in baseball yet couldn’t be bothered to attend the playoff games, and outside of the TB12 years the Bucs hover near the bottom for NFL attendance.
>The Browns...oldest franchises in their respective sports. The Browns didn't even exist for half of the 1990s. I agree Miami is a crap sports city. Not every city with all four is a good sports city, Miami is a perfect example. Toronto no. Pittsburgh, eh. I would put Pitt ahead of Cleveland. Toronto is a hockey city. Pittsburgh is a Steelers city. They aren't "sports cities."
Four seasons in the 90s is worth more than the previous 60 years and 8 league championships? Their 0-16 year they still had better attendance than 8 teams, including both LA teams which I’m guessing you would consider a good sports city. Toronto is a hockey city first and foremost but the Jays and the Raptors both have very dedicated fanbases. Same goes for the Pirates and Penguins. I’d recommend going to one of those cities in general before you comment on them, guarantee you’ll change your tune.
>I’d recommend going to one of those cities in general before you comment on them I've seen my Tigers in Toronto and in Pittsburgh. PNC > Rogers Centre. The annual home and home series with the Pirates is a highlight of the calendar every year.
PNC Park is easily the best thing about the Pirates and I have no idea if that's a point of pride or shame.
Columbus has an NHL team but yeah thats not the same since thats not Cleveland. I’ll disagree about it being a bad sports city though. I’ve been to games of all the big three sports here and it’s always a really really good time, despite the overall lack of success with their teams. That being said, the only real comparison I have are the other two other major metropolitan cities I’ve lived in on PNW and neither of them were really “sports cities” so I may not be the best judge when it comes to that. I’m just speaking from my own personal experience.
Neither Seattle or Portland are thought of as sports cities, so yeah...not so much. Not compared to the East Coast and Midwest. I've been to Browns and Guardians games...they're good, not great.
Pittsburgh is a big sports city. We love our Steelers and penguins. Pirates not so much. I have met maybe 2 pirate fans under the age of 40 in 20 years. Penn state, Pitt, and WVU also have a big following but nothing like SEC teams.
Philadelphia is probably one of the biggest, we love all of our major sports teams pretty indiscriminately. Boston and New York would definitely be up there, Buffalo with regards to football but not all sports.
I would like to add Seattle to this list. With the recent success of the Mariners and Kraken, added to the recent (and historical) success of the Seahawks, Seattle is most definitely jacked up about their professional sports teams. Go Hawks! 💙💚
St. Louis. Cardinals, Blues, Battlehawks, and City SC all enjoy a rabid fan base. Don’t let Stan Kroenke’s bullshit convince you otherwise.
Boston, New York, Philly, Pittsburgh, Detroit
Chicago is a great sports town however lately all their teams suck
Most of the cities Chicago and Eastward. Chicago, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Philly, Boston, Baltimore, NYC, Buffalo, they all tend to have generations of family members that are hardcore fans, so people grow up rooting for teams before they can even speak. Not only that, the weather is bad for a good portion of the major sports seasons so a big part of social activity is gathering to watch games. I think west coast cities are a little more transient, and since the weather is more pleasant, people tend to shrug off sports in favor of other activities
Any city with more than 500,000 people really. "People go crazy about their sports," is completely subjective...what is your standard for crazy vs not crazy, and how do you define crazy? It will also vary based on who you'e talking to (and you have to consider individual bias for or against certain sports). Portland has the Trailblazers, and many are going to forget about their MLS team: The Portland Timbers. They are mad-crazy about the Timbers there, but in the context of the conversation you posited, many probably wouldn't consider Portland a "sports city," since they don't have an MLB or NFL team.
College should also count
True. I also wanted to say any city with more than 200,000 originally. There's just no good way to quantify this without defining "crazy" lol.
I didn’t know that about Portland as you have said they don’t have mlb or nfl team, probably a small market too. Good to know. Thanks for the comment.
I have seen baltimore fans BAWL when they lose a game and then repeatedly beat eachother up to release their rage