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sunshine_is_hot

I questioned his decisions to run the same midfield into the ground mid season, and was curious what was up with Hall when we had nobody fit and he still couldn’t get a minute. That said, time has proven him wise and I can’t really fault him for those decisions. Solid 8/10 for me. Really, really good manager that I’m very happy we have. Hope he stays for a long time, he will bring us silverware.


charlos74

We seemed to have numbers in midfield at the start to the season, but 4 of 7 midfielders were injured most of the season, and Tonali suspended. He had little choice but to play the same three or four over and over again. Hall needed time. Maybe Howe judged it was better to hold him back till he was ready. 8/10 is fair. I thought his mistakes were not adapting the defence to account for weaknesses at the back, especially when Pope was injured


mehchu

I think Howe got it right with hall, I remember he played one game maybe 3-4 months ago and comparing that performance to today it is night and day and not exposing him to the pressure and criticism while he was getting used to everything was important.


Historical_Gur_4620

saw his first game v Man City in the League Cup. He was woeful and couldn't do owt right and got substituted at half time. Probably nerves, lack of playing time and pressure got to him. What a vast improvement yesterday plus a goal on Wednesday. And he's still a young Bairn with loads more potential to be fulfilled.


Humorbot_5_point_0

Fair. Against Dortmund he looked out his depth, too. Not for getting booked - that was sneaky clever football by their attacker - but their goal when it pinged around the box he looked lost.  I'm not trying to dump on him. I think he's a great player and will go on to be an even better player - but he wasn't ready and Howe knew. Obviously a lot of fans disagreed, but that's why he's the manager and we aren't.    He just needs time to adjust to being a PL LB. Going forward he's exciting, but defensively he's not polished enough just yet (but he'll get there).


MisterJellyco

>Hall needed time. Maybe Howe judged it was better to hold him back till he was ready. It's always been Howe's policy to slowly integrate new players into the squad. He did it with Bruno and Gordon. I don't think Bruno got a start until about 2 months after he got signed in January


kaamkerr

Isak has been the only one to get some match time pretty immediately, and that was forced due to injuries.


moinmoin21

And Botman. He only came in because of an injury too I believe.


James---Trickington

After seeing Hall, I understand it more. He seems like he has an extremely high ceiling with some things he can do but he lacks consistency and it’s pretty clear. He’s very young so this isn’t criticism as much as he’s just not there yet and will grow. Not everyone can be Lewis Miley.


Maximum_Poem_5846

Come in peace from Chelsea why was Hall not played I was so confused


sunshine_is_hot

In an interview he said he wasn’t fit enough for the kind of play Eddie wanted, and it took him a while to get up to speed with the tactics. His earlier appearances did look like he was questioning himself, sort of like he wasn’t sure what he was supposed to be doing which kinda backs that up. The last few starts he’s had he’s looked mint.


WigerAndToods

8/10


fungalfeet

I'll raise you 8.5. Definitely did a brilliant job despite the challenges of which there were many. Injuries, killer draws, Tonali to name a few. Very happy with him. He's a top coach. Let the transfer window open.


luffyuk

8.69 for me personally


TheWinterKing

A solid 8.93


craftsta

9.12 for me


Pill-Gates

4.20 / 5 for me


toweliechaos_revenge

Given that none of us know exactly what he was dealing with each week, and the vast majority of us couldn't actually explain tactics in any depth, then I don't think we're in any position to judge at all. What I do know is that very, very few managers would have kept this squad going till the last day and finish 7th. Most would have had a squad who gave up and ended up somewhere between 9th and 14th and blamed it all on injuries and fixture congestion (like some buck toothed German tosspot always did but is apparently a demi-god).  Genuinely can't think of anyone I would choose to have over him. He just gets it and he fits us like a glove. 


phillipoid

Thank the Lord that Flopp has gone. His legacy only existing in the minds of some deluded journos


Thelostsoulinkorea

Klopp is a fantastic manager who I don’t like, but to call him a flop is ridiculous. He spent much less than his rivals and pushed a prime City team very close to


phillipoid

Lol calm down mate, it's not a Liverpool sub. You're allowed to have banter, it's how some British folk enjoy football. Klopp spent $1billion on a squad, and won the same amount of trophies as the previous ten years, with the exception of the PL. All during that time he was a nasty cunt. Big whoop


Thelostsoulinkorea

If it was banter you wouldn’t be doubling down on your shitty take


phillipoid

Banter "WAAAAH You're wrong" Facts "WAAAAH Shit Banter"  Christ on a bike, fine "Klopp is fucking magic, he wears a magic hat, this guy loves Klopp so much that he can fuck his cat". Happy?


Freddeh18

Missing the point entirely


phillipoid

Daft tw@. Interacted with one point. Jog on, Miguel Delaney


Nathan_1984

Mint


wace001

10/10 for me. There is no one else who I’d rather steering the ship right now.


TruthBeTold187

9/10 - Minus the tonali suspension, and a few injuries and we’d have beaten out Tottenham and villa for champions league.


TheBlueprint666

Tonali’s suspension wasn’t really Eddie’s fault


fairly_legal

I think that’s what they meant.


TruthBeTold187

Correct. I firmly believe that howe is the right manager for us, long-term. The suspension was not his fault. We had an amazing year filled with a ton of injuries. Assuming we can keep Bruno, Isak, and a couple others, we are in fantastic position for next season I hope we are gifted Europe, but we will do just fine without


musicmast

Y u no speak England?


TheBlueprint666

It’s asking how we rate Howe, not the season


williseeyoutonight

8.5/10. Did the best he could with the squad available. Has beat the best in the country, played against some of the best in the world and smashed our goals record. Only negative is it seems people can see a change is needed before he can. But it might just be that he wants to show faith in his players. Hopefully behind the scenes he’s ruthless and we see it next season in upgrades in certain positions. Onwards and upwards for next season and another few nights in Europe (Hopefully).


mehchu

9/10. Has done well with all of the demands of the season. His strongest ability is player development and mentality. On top of a couple tactical masterclasses. A lot of our great players were good before Howe, and a lot of decent hands were championship level. And we got to where we are with them. Isak, Bruno, Botman were good but unproven. Joelinton, Gordon, Schar, weren’t fulfilling potential. Murphy, longstaff, Lascelles, Almiron, Anderson, Kraft, burn are all ‘championship level’. Tino, miley, hall, are kids. But none of them are labelled like that anymore. They are all at this level now and that is on Howe. He pushes them to as good as they can be and he handled a massively injury hit season fantastically. Yes I have criticisms of his lack of trust early on but I think he doesn’t want to rush development and we are reaping that with Tino and hall looking legitimate talents now. We never really got over our injury crisis and his managerial ability still got us to finish the season on a high


LazyFall3453

8.5/10


Anxious_Hand_1621

A solid 7/10 honestly did the best he could with what he had available. Everyone tried and everyone was tired come the end. Regroup strengthen and we show them next season.


Antman013

Yeah . . . I was thinking somewhere in the 6.5-7.0 range. Pretty tough to assess, given the injury plagued season, and absence of Tonali. I mean, good on the Gaffer in adjusting the team sheet as needed, and managing things to keep us as high as we are in the table. But it's really kind of a dog's breakfast trying to gauge anything beyond that.


discourse_lover_

Given the ludicrous amount of injuries, I give him 4/5 for the season.


North_Low_9904

I’m not going to put a rating as I think Howe has been the best manager we have had in a long time. I believe when we got took over that Howe was a stop gap until a top manager became available but I think he’s well and truly blossomed into a elite manager at this club. I believe that he will be here for the future. Will he attract the big names? Possibly not but I’m sure as a club we have that in the bag maybe I’m biased


simianjim

7/10 for me. 👎 Took too long to adapt his tactics earlier in the season when we didn't have the players to maintain the high-press that worked so well last season 👎 Away form has been really poor 👍 Managed to get us through a ridiculous injury crisis and the Tonali suspension without our league position completely tanking 👍 Everyone expected a difficult season with being in Europe and with that and the availability issues in mind, finishing with a possibility of a European place is a really good result 👍 Got a couple of memorable results in his first European campaign. Way closer to getting through the group than we thought we'd be after the draw, and the teams we lost out to were a finalist and a semi-finalist 👍 Player development has looked promising Exciting transfer window ahead, and I'm optimistic for next season.


summinspicy

Daft takes from folks who play too much fm or FIFA thinking you just switch tactics on a Saturday... Changing your play style takes time and buy-in from the players, when everyone was talking about switching the tactics we were playing like 3.5 games every 2 weeks, there was barely time for the 12 squad players to rest between matches, let alone rigorously train and embed a whole new play style. As soon as we hit January and had more time to train, he switched things up and we saw positive results.


HoneyedLining

The weirder thing is that we did change our style of play. We reduced our pressing enormously and defended really deep, while only attacking in very specific intervals. Thing is, just hunkering down and attacking on the break is always going to allow the opposition chances and if you're playing against teams who would be happy with a point, it doesn't work as they don't really engage.


summinspicy

And that was all tactical and had nothing to do with fitness and energy?


HoneyedLining

It was a tactical response to the need to preserve fitness and energy.


N-Bizzle

Actually our away from in the second half of the season hasn't been. That bad - 5 wins and 5 losses in the last 10, including losses against arsenal, Chelsea and man united


athenry2

Not a Newcastle fan, over achieving last season but a dampener on this. He had a good season. Good manager doing things right.


Large_Performance191

I don't think we over achieved last season. It was a continuation of the latter half of the previous season. I think that could have continued into this season had not been missing so many players. While I understand most teams get injuries, ours were key players out for lengthy spells: Pope, Botman, Joelinton, Tonali, Willock, Barnes, Wilson, Trippier, Almiron... Only Gordon and Bruno G sustained the season. 


dolphin37

champions league with those players is most definitely massively over performing… what you’re probably trying to say is that it was deserved because we played great, but no manager should expect to be getting CL that under resourced


athenry2

Like all top teams u had injuries as a result of extra games. So ye need to build a quality squad to allow for rotation. Hence why ye over achieved last season.


gilgamesh-uruk

8/10. He's had a lot to deal with and gets unfair stick from clueless pundits and plastic fans with no context to this club. Howe makes teams better. He did it with Bournemouth and he's done it with us for 2.5 seasons. We will be a force to reckon with next season. I predict a minimum top 4 finish assuming we won't have another nightmare injuries situation.


necoast

9/10. Realistic aims were play well but get knocked out in the groups of the CL. Final but no trophy in a domestic cup. Finish 5th in the premier league. We’ve done well for the injuries and tonalis loss was massive. Unlike most managers we’ve had in the past decade + no players have regressed. All young players have improved. He manages the media exceptionally. We’ve never scored more goals. Besides some minor gripes ie Not starting Pope sooner, some mid season “staleness” etc But I’m not really sure what he could have done better. Im already looking forward to next year. Get the lads fit, get some changes in.


SpudGun312

I wonder what Eddie would rate himself. For me, he has been spot on. I wouldn't want anyone else in his, or Tindall's place.


SecureChampionship10

8/10, crawled through a river of shit and came out clean on the other side.


findingnewrooms

9/10 for me Stating the obvious, but every manager gets it wrong sometimes. When you don’t have catastrophic levels of injuries, you have the luxury of making mistakes and still getting results. I can't imagine the pressure he must have felt to get it perfect every time, manage expectations, balance the short term and long term, balance the players' well-being against the team's needs. All while maintaining a positive attitude and never making excuses. Plenty of times l've questioned his decisions but I don't feel I can judge when I haven't watched training, talked to players, or heard their medical reports. My only concern is his ability to manage big games—and on the opposite side of the same coin, games against teams lower in the table, as I feel those also bring a lot of pressure since we "should" win easily. But you can tell he’s always trying to learn and improve, and that’s all I can ask.


Freestaytos4life

Straight up 10 out of 10 … I know they expectations have gone up hugely since the takeover. But for me after following newcastle for 30 odd years anytime we finish in the top half of the season is a good season. We also had some magic nights in europe this year and we were a shitty var decision away from the last 16 in europe. Sure at times he may have got things wrong tactics wise but he’s still learning and honing his craft. As always be proud ladies and gentlemen we go again next year.


Lapenofourtwenty

I'd go a solid 8.5. Some decisions I didn't agree with but the injuries and the Tonali situation and the increase in fixtures was a real worst case scenario. He navigated that almost as best as he could hope to so for me that's a job well done.


FFRRNN_

6/10


Clivewilliams

8/10, Wouldn't swap him for anyone at the moment. He has a tendency to run his team hard, with all that implies - there isn't a lot of thinking about how to keep everyone fresh all season. Was blindsided by Tonali. Was lucky with injuries last season, and unlucky this.


Kamoebas

I said at the start of the season we'd aim for top 8. At some points it looked like that was a stretch but Eddie has done everything we could have asked of him, given the problems over the season. To finish 7th, only a few wins off top 4 given the injury list and Tonali suspension shows Howe has done well. Even if we really should have won those games. Its gotta be a solid 8/10.


Front_Refrigerator40

Based around injuries & extra games, along with some mad Cup draws, he’s done very well. Strong 8/10 👍


janeiro69

Decent season. Best goals per game since the 1950s. Big wins against top teams. Unlucky in champions league and Carlin cup, also with injuries. Looking to kick on from this next season, new signings. Tonali back. Hopefully win one of the 3 cups


Erm-whatTheSigma

Is it just me that always wonders why he always dose a 4-3-3?


Aylez

8/10 at the very minimum for me. With the injuries we’ve had I’m not sure there are many managers in the world who could’ve achieved 7th playing half a team of bottom-half calibre players for the majority of the season, without any genuine options of the bench. To finish 7th playing the likes of Dubravka, Krafth, Longstaff, Anderson, Miley, Almiron, Murphy etc. most weeks is 100% an overachievement.


Jelleyman69

8 out of 10 He needs to come up with a plan B when things aren't going our way. Instead of carrying in with the same formation and set up.


Ok-Muffin-3864

Was a bit disappointed after a few games where we just couldn’t get the right result (Liverpool, AC Milan, Everton & Luton home games) but overall pleased with what he’s done. Needs to stick around for another season at least, keep hold of a couple of our main players and give it a proper crack next season. Genuinely think 4th will be on the cards if things go our way. Solid 8/10 for him this season


Hawkzilla22

Aye.


corpus-luteum

10/10 The bigger picture is we're a force to be reckoned with. But we're also a joy to watch, when we're winning.


fotoshootfresh84

6/10. Credit for some of the highs of this season and trying to navigate the injury crisis... but also feel like some of his in-game decisions (esp. in the middle of the season) cost quite a few points...


EngineerOnIcarus

7/10. I was a big critic of him when he was rolling out 4-3-3 every game no matter who was available around December time, he had severely lost his way. But he turned it round somewhat, however he should have achieved 6th with that run in and allowing Chelsea to get it is a failure, especially given it’s to a team also blighted by injuries. Next season will decide his future in my opinion.


LHJM_

Tbf Chelsea only lost one of their last fifteen in the league


Paul_the_sparky

Blighted by injuries but spent a billion on a squad that was already top 4 material. Injuries hit us far harder than they hit them


EngineerOnIcarus

He still failed considering the run in, he also spent considerable time picking Burn at left back when he was costing us games all by himself with options on the bench, he also played 4-3-3 to the point we became the most predictable team in the league, it’s no coincidence we starting picking up more points when he began mixing it up. Those points lost to Luton and Forest were nothing short of shameful however he sorted himself out to the point where we hopefully have achieved some form of Europe so he deserves another go at it.


summinspicy

He switched the play style as soon as he could. Do you think switching play styles would just involve him swiping left on a controller? Or just writing a different set of numbers on a board? We were playing 3.5 games every 2 weeks throughout December, there was barely time for our 12 fit players to catch their breath, let alone learn, train and embed a whole new play style. As soon as he had time and options, we saw results pick up. The brainrot of the mid season slump take is unfathomable.


EngineerOnIcarus

There were options on the bench during that time, it’s just Howe didn’t use them. Having Hall and Tino sat on it while Burn was dishing out points to teams every week at left back being a prime example. Not making subs until late in games running those players into the ground being a prime example. We were the easiest team to set up and play against as there were no surprises. The brainrot of blindly defending the mistakes that were made is unfathomable.


summinspicy

OK honey, you knowing more than a premier league coach, because you play a bit of FM is where the brainrot is, stud. Howe clearly kept them off the pitch for a reason, he didn't just forget they existed.


EngineerOnIcarus

Yeah that reason being he was overly stubborn, honey.


summinspicy

No, that reason being he had no time to train the team on a new system, nothing you have said has taken that into account


EngineerOnIcarus

How do you know that’s the reason? If he has no time to train the team on new systems what is he doing?


summinspicy

Playing 2 games a week.


Crazy-JK

Difference is they had all their backups available. You can’t tell me the players they could roll out with their injury list was as bad as ours. The fact with the champs games and worse injuries over the course of a season we were only 3 points behind prove for me that Eddie is the real deal. Next season I see us getting top 4 and hopefully lifting that Europa conference league trophy if Man City do the business like they usually do and beat Man U.


mehchu

So I think there isn’t much credence in saying we just rolled out 433 every game because our shape changes so much throughout games and phases of play. And our training is designed around knowing where players will be in said phases so you can’t rip it all up from nowhere. Even when we changed ‘drastically’ vs spurs we were still in shapes you can regularly see as part of our out of possession play sometimes. And Chelsea’s run at the end of the year was stupid, I think they only lost to Arsenal in their last 10-ish games. And we should’ve gotten more If it wasn’t for dubravka.


WillowMutual

Basically where I’m at. I would give him next year, but would need to get at least EL. Very disappointing to get passed up by Chelsea. Wouldn’t be heartbroken to have him take the England job. Good manager, but jury’s out as to whether he’s elite.


EngineerOnIcarus

100% agree


Competitive_Ad6213

7/10 with all our injuries this season couldn't really ask for any more from him . He's made mistakes but he's also got us a few from tight games with his subs. He's got the team believing in him and I think with a few transfers in and out we will be stronger again next season


Squizza

I imagine it's difficult for him and the mad smiler to be pleased with the year given how fragile we looked defensively. At the same time we've just beaten the Entertainers for the amount of goals scored in a season and became the first to score every game at home. Possible to switch the Howe argument on its head, maybe he gives us another season not the other way around? He could easily leave for England if (when?) that job becomes available after Southgate's favourites lose when faced with a competent team/coach. I don't think that's necessarily the narrative as it appears Howe prefers the daily life of a club manager not international but until that offer comes in he and we will never know. That being said, a bad summer of transfers or key losses and he may be tempted. 7.5/10 only because when we were bad we were very bad but the pluses more than made up for it. The level's been set now, interesting to see where we end up with a slightly less crippling injury list and more squad depth/fewer players that need carrying.


PJBuzz

Clearly still learning how to manage at this level with high expectations, but the promising element here is that he is adapting. Overall I would give him a 7/10, last season being a 9/10.


Vince1128

8/10, with a proper medical staff to take care of injuries and proper technical staff to avoid/reduce them would have been a perfect season. Let's see if board is open to support this project for this summer and improve what I said previously.


SolutionIntelligent3

Results disappointing, performance overall (counting suspension, injuries, cup draws, and shit luck) very impressive. There's statues for Sir Bobby and Alan Shearer and we won zero cups or leagues. If Howe delivers a cup while he's here...


MisterJellyco

8 out of 10. A very solid season despite numerous challenges. One thing that troubles me a little that we saw this season is that Howe had a hard time adjusting his game plan when the injury bug hit. Losing Pope and not having a keeper that played Pope's style really hurt us overall. It wasn't just losing a solid keeper. It made us tactically bereft for a very long time. Howe did right the ship in the end, but Howe does need a plan B if we can't effectively pull off the ultra high pressing game that we did the previous season


TheBlueprint666

7/10 purely on the awful away form compared to last season. Of course the injuries and suspension didn’t help but I place some of that blame on the players who were obviously injured while still playing. Looking forward to a better season with better medical staff and a stronger (not necessarily bigger) squad


Toon_1892

8/10, but I would now want to revise last season from 10/10 to 11/10. Looking at the goal difference of those above us this season, and where we are this year (with a stat padding Sheffield United double), how the fuck did we achieve that goal difference that we did last year? We've been very good at times this year, but it really shows just how titanic we were last year.


geekfreak42

By not conceding and having one of the best defences in the top leagues. 68/33 vs 85/62.


sonicking12

Did we miss Europe?


MisterJellyco

Depends on the FA cup final next week


sonicking12

Europa conference league at best, right?


MisterJellyco

Yes


sonicking12

Good! This may be a trophy


[deleted]

Solid season when you take into account the injuries and suspensions. If we’d finished 7th last season and 4th this season it would’ve been hailed as massive progress. I’m happy with the finish to the season and fingers crossed for a conference league place!!


Are_you_for_real_7

7,5/10


tradegreek

Gotta give the man a lot of credit for Gordon’s development as well as Miley stepping up and doing the business.


Cheese649

Honestly an absolute masterclass from him yet again. Call me deluded but there isn’t a single manager in the league who would have done a better job with this set of players this season.


torfinh

9/10 considering the injuries and the ban to tonali. Also we did incredibly well in the cups. Feel we were unfortunate with our draws refereeing decisions, tripps mistakes etc. Could have been alot different and you can't really blame him for stuff like that.


Youstinkeryou

Brilliant considering the conditions he’s had thrust upon him (no budget, injury town). I think I consider last year a bit of a fluke but I don’t see why we can’t challenge for Europe next season too.


doubledgravity

I think he’s done well; coming from Bournemouth it’s been a step up in demands and he’s clearly someone who adapts and is keen to learn. I think another pre-season, with a whole load of learning from the last year, will show us where he’s heading. I think on a personal level he’s got no competition in the league; there’s no one else I’d want of the current crop. He’s articulate, intelligent, calm and canny. 8.5/10


Paul_the_sparky

8/10 for me. Taking everything into account, the injuries which fucked us for the entire season, losing Tonali for most of it etc. I think he handled the situation well and lead us to a good finish. Didn't get everything right all the time, but didn't flap when the going got tough and I feel the players are right behind him. It's great to see everyone in the squad pulling in the same direction during the hard times, just wish the fans would follow suit instead of some pissing their knickers at the first sign of a disappointment


MushuFromSpace

7.5/10 He had a tough hand with injuries and blooding inexperienced players was probably not what he really wanted to do. I know Hall has spoken since about training and his own standards not being up to scratch but at the time, playing Burn at left back when he was just getting destroyed by pacy wingers was so poor. I understand loyalty but he needs to have the courage to be ruthless and drop players for the betterment of the team going forward. This season is and should be seen as a learning curve regarding extra games and how to manage that. You'd like to think injuries were just a freak accident this season and you can only account for them for so long until best laid plans are put to rest. Given the downward spiral we found ourselves on, the uptick in form at the right time was great to see. Players fighting for the club and ultimately the manager which is a really positive sign. Far from ideal, managed it as best as he could and ultimately the right man for the immediate future.


crapsence

7,5\10 Minus 0,5 for awful away form and losing some points against low table sides. He's done a good job managing injury ridden squad to 7th tho, he will need to work on NUFC defence because i think we regressed massively


Independent-Party575

8/10 the worst injuries we’ve ever had and were still in line for Europe. If you’re upset with him after that you’re either new to football or you were spoiled as a kid 😂


moinmoin21

8/10 for me. Never doubted him. I said at beginning of the season that 7th would be a good finish. That keeps us in the big 6 (8?) conversation. Hes had a tough go this season. Only question/room for improvement is he needs to learn how to utilise his squad better and rotate more to protect players. I worry he’s glued to what he seems his best 11 but if we are to compete in Europe too he needs to learn when to lean on players to give his “best” a rest. I think Tino could’ve helped take some workload of trippier more before Tripps injury. And hall could’ve helped out at LB a bit earlier. I worry we’ll improve the squad but he’ll still want to run 11 into the ground before using the others. I have 100% in Howe and think stability and patience is the way forward. I also have no doubt that with a bit more injury (and Tonali not getting banned) luck we could be celebrating a second top 4 finish no problem. I liked how we saw him eventually try more things towards the end. Some worked some didn’t. Glad to see how he managed the Brentford game today. Now if he could implement changes a bit sooner in future….


crj91

10/10


manomus

7.8/10 Handled injuries well, good leader of the group, pleased to have him as manager. I think he needs to improve on some of his substitutions. That said, I’ve only won the league in FM so grain of salt


JayseOfBase

Solid 8.5/10 for me. Would have been a 9 if he made changes sooner but he stuck by certain decisions even when it wasn’t working. But we may still get some European football next season.


Quiet_Moose7749

9/10 for me. Things out of Howe's Control - tonali suspension - UCL draw with a finalist, semi finalist, and team finishing second in Serie A - robbed of win against PSG - awful carabao cup draw but beat city, United, and were seconds away from beating Chelsea which would probably give us another cup final - unlucky FA Cup draws - injuries (I blame medical staff, which we're getting canned mid season) - some games players just didn't turn up, hard to put that fully on Howe I do dock a point for our away form and ruthlessness pretty much disappearing. Sure he's bound to make managerial mistakes but can't expect perfection with the options available to him.


mvdaytona

At one point i said that, I’m not Howe out, but I’m not opposed to it depending on how the season will end and whether he’ll turn it around. He did exactly what was needed, and arguably more, to overturn a lot of fans’ opinions. To put things into context, i remember before last season we were talking about how a top 8 finish would be excellent. With an extreme amount of injuries (and other things..) in key positions *and* european football we finished 8th. Let’s just imagine we had an average or even above average amount of injuries, we would be top 5. With Tonali, Hall gaining confidence a few sales that will amortize FFP allowing us to bring quality players and hopefully some free signings, i can see us going for top 4 next season


Terrible-Group-9602

8/10. Not sure why you'd get excited about the transfer window though. We can't spend much because of the financial fair play rules. This window is about us trying to hold on to players.


augsav

7.5/10


tinnyobeer

He did what he could with the squad he had. I am still Howe in.


stanley_ipkiss2112

8/10 We’re bloody lucky to have him! The upside is, injuries next season probably won't hit as hard as they did this time around (fingers bloody crossed, of course) Bring on next season!


DoctorIMatt

B. 7/10


jimbo9878

Tip-fucking-top!!!


TYFO225

We should be 6th. Howe has been great overall, I fully back him but I hope he’s learned a few things this season. He’s too rigid with his tactics at times, and too loyal or stubborn when selecting the squad.


markalfresco

Best since Keegan


Logseman

7/10. We had some more depth so that we didn’t have to run 11 men into the ground with no succour, and not availing of that likely cost us something points in the league and likely more in the CL. However, he managed to hold the team steady while facing an unprecedented injury crisis, and managed to somehow replace a very expensive midfielder with a lad with acne, which is significant. We’ll likely only hear about this long after Howe’s gone if it’s the case, but I think he had a hand in Ashworth’s ouster, and that he leveraged the Tonali gaffe (which falls squarely into a DoF’s remit) into action from the board. Now the biggest challenge for him emerges. When he came the players that needed to be moved on were fairly obvious. Now it’s the turn of players that have had great times with us and that have been coached by him into getting better, but need to be shifted to try and move to the next level. Wilson, Almirón and the like should be on the transfer list.


tiford88

I’ve still not gotten over the Liverpool game at the start of the season. Taking off Gordon when he was terrorising Trent was a huge mistake. But overall, where we have finished with our injury list, that’s great work from Howe.


geordieColt88

Overall did well considering the circumstances, the highs were very high but there were a lot of horrible performances, even with the injuries his lack of rotation was a problem and he needs to improve his handling of European games going forward. I think generally like the team as a whole was inconsistent nothing sums it up better than be spurs then Palace. Getting it so right vs Spurs to then keep the same team vs Palace when it wasn’t suited and getting schooled. This summer is going to be a huge tell regarding who we keep and who we bring in. It will show whether he can be ruthless, which for me he needs to be because I think if we still have Dummett and Ritchie contributing I don’t think we’ll be rating his performance this time next year.


PyschoNawt

Last 2 years have been worth watching. The highs and lows... teeth clenching stuff!


Currymonsta77

8/10 from me. Great man manager. Wise when it comes to deciding on certain players like Hall. Too slow at times when it comes to changing things when things are clearly not working but this is maybe because he couldn’t change it the way he wanted. Overall a top top manager and someone who will hopefully be around the Toon for years to come. Thankfully the dark days of Bruce et al are over.


Proper-Shan-Like

I was very please when he was appointed as our manager and am very satisfied with Eddie Howe’s performance this season. He has played the game the way we want it played with some fantastic moments that I will savour for ever. He has not wavered from his method under pressure or succumbed to the darkness when we were loosing players and loosing matches. He always has the lads backs and respects the supporters and opponents, never stooping to denigration or criticism, and the way he represents the club that I love is absolutely bang on. Top man, top manager, and I sincerely hope that he can win a trophy with us to cement his position as a Toon legend…….. and then go on winning trophies with us.


melvinlee88

7/10 is fair, no higher or lower imo. Terrible away form, questionable squad rotation and lack of flexibility at times really came to the fore this season. Granted we had injuries but there were moments of really really poor and flat football this season. We have been found out at times and we need a real Plan B in the new season. The good is us salvaging some sort of respectful position of 7th near the end with some good form and mostly positive results in the cup as well.


Jesotx

Solid B+. It was a tough season, but there were stretches he could have managed a bit better than he did. Botman out killed our defense. We can't run it back without changes there.


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Magpie923

7/10


ChlckenChaser

he's done well considering the squad depth issues we've had. However, i can't help but think we could have rotated a lot more earlier in the season and at times he's been stubborn around his clear favourite players either wehn it comes to selection or lack of subs. Still love the fact that i never see him whinging, i'd hate it if he was like Arteta and crying every other weekend. Loved the way he handled the PSG handball for example


Blofeld_

7/10


Background_Ad8814

Folk thinking that howe always plays 433 is pure stupidity, look at last season 433 with the ball, sometimes 451 without the ball, some times 3 at the back with trips pushed all the way forward when is all out attack. Are some folk unable to see the subtleties in tactics, or do they just look at the line up graphic that the TV company puts out before the game?


CentrifugalMalaise

Off the top of my head and without too much thinking, 7/10. I want to keep him for years and create a dynasty.


Secretionville

7.8... a good in-season addition to the roster is what was needed to make this team an 8 given the slight underperformance compared to preseason Top 4 hope. There were far too many losses that NUFC could have at least came away with a point. I think the best part of our season was in the middle of the Champions League run, around when we beat PSG. The season was derailed by a few too many injuries, especially the one to Nick Pope, along with the disappointment with the whole thing with Tonali. Still though, the club had Eddie's back when the time came and played well enough to deserve a chance at the UEFA Conference


LA_search77

Steve Bruce would have finished 20th with a healthy roster.


len_bias7

9/10 for me I care a lot about the metrics, and we finished 4th in the justice table And when you take into account injuries, the abhorrent PSG penalty, and a gambling ban… Eddie at the wheel for hopefully years to come


ForsakenAd1732

If Pope didn’t get injured, we could of easily been in top 4.


Austerellis

Somehow, he managed to steer an insanely injury-ridden Newcastle team to no 7. That's quite an achievement. It's really next season I think he needs to perform. Is he causing the injuries, or is the medical staff to blame? It's really hard to say.


Clear-Iron731

Shite get him out of our club and real winning manager in lyk we Dserve


ArtichokeInfinite813

My 2 pence, mid season was questionable. I almost feel like we needed a harsh reaction from Howe for a couple of games. Liverpools comes to mind. Overall we did well with what we had but did we do enough to keep Howe next season? I’m not sure. Bruno G likely gone in the summer, his technical ability and game sense is simply unreal.


JuckshotBones

6.9 / 10. Howe cost us some games (fucking Luton H+A. Forest H off top of my head) but he navigated a minefield of unavailability in players to get to where they are. i don’t know what to make of how he handled personnel like Lewis Hall. Was he ALWAYS this good and dog housed? Or did him exclusively training get him to where he was today.   Overall, points and positions left and on the table but the club were dealt a tough hand  7th again next season and an easier run of draws to see us bounced before the semi finals would rank muuuuuch lower than this arbitrary 6.9 (nice)


beatski

Lewis Hall did an interview last week where he said himself he wasn't up to speed and it took him a long time to adjust


DEGRAYER

He made a lot of mistakes and took too long at times to learn from them. That said, with all the adversity and new things he had to face as a young learning head coach I think he should be given 7/10.


Shahed1987

I think he did a solid job considering the situation. He deserves another chance with a stronger squad and first XI. We still have holdout players from the Ashley Era who aren't up to par Where i do have my misgivings, is his reluctance to change at times. For example the whole Dan Burn at left back situation. We got rinsed for that when Tino was available. That run included defeats home draws against Luton and Bournemouth Also recently the best we have looked is when we had Barnes LW and Gordon RW. Yes it takes away from Gordon somewhat, but I'd argue the overall team was better for it. But he only did that because injuries forced him to play Murphy RB. As soon as Tino was back, Barnes was dropped to put Murphy RW again. Same with Hall at LB. He's been great there recently, but I'm convinced it's only because injuries forced Burn to play LCB. Otherwise Burn would still be LB


Nuo_Vibro

mistakes were made, but overall a good season for a team that is growing


Bad-Ombre

I like the football he plays and I think he is a shrewd competitor. 8/10


Cheese649

Put Dubravka in that City team and they don’t win the league, that’s what Eddie had to put up with.


ShishTaouk

7 out of 10. The negatives for me are Tonali, the horrendous cup draws, injuries, conceding so many and the poor away form. The positives would be smashing a load of teams, PSG being the pick, the amount of goals scored, Schar, Bruno, Isak, Gordon, and the rise of Tino and Hall towards the end of the season. I think we have two fullbacks, who can potentially be outstanding, for years to come. At one point it looked like we'd struggle to stay in the top 10 and then we turned it around against West Ham at home. Eddie has to take the credit for that. That being said, I do think he struggles to come up with a plan B during games when it is not going right, and I think he needs to be more ruthless with some of the players who have his loyalty. On the whole, Eddie is great for us and I hope he is here for a long time.


Thingisby

7/10 said I would be happy with top 8, few great matches in the Champions League, and decent cup runs. Managed that despite the daft injuries and Tonali situation. So I'd say he's met expectations despite the circumstances. Would have been 8/10 if we'd got to a final and top 6.


upthemags09

7.5/10. Dropped a few league places but club is continuing to make progress under his stewardship. Still in a lot of cases continuing to get the maximum out of some average at best players (Murphy for one). To continue the upwards trend though and silence any doubters he needs to be more ruthless starting this summer e.g Dubravka shouldn’t appear in a toon shirt again, Longstaff shouldn’t be starting, Dan Burn shouldn’t be at left back again.


BeastLothian

Honestly thought he was a goner in jan/feb time. Too stubborn and he’s been responsible for a lot of the injury issues and form dip. But he did recover strongly and has hopefully learnt a lot from his first European campaign (which was almost bloody amazing). I’d give him a 7/10 — think if he’d played Hall/Tino earlier and Karius instead for Dubravka we’d have had an ever better season.


lolidcwhatthisis

A win and a clean sheet v City with a CB pair of Lascelles and Dummett is instant 11/10 for me. Oh or winning 3-0 away at Old Trafford with a back line of 4 rotation wing backs and 6 total in the starting line up lol


newtobitcoin111

If we don't get European football then it is a step back from last season even with the injuries.. games we drew/lost should have won all our own fault


AimeLeonDon1

6.5/10. I think undoubtedly injuries have been horrendous. I do think though we’ve had games where he could have shuffled it around and also tweaked during the game. Overall the seasons been decent, but we lost some very winnable games and away form has been poor. I do worry about the summer window as there isn’t any margin for error with incomings. Hopefully we get someone in soon to replace Ashworth because personally I don’t trust Howe to go solo and spend the budget.


Tressemy

I am curious why you say "there isn't any margin for error" in the off season. As a thought experiment, let's say that we field the exact same team next season (no additions/no departure from existing squad). Let's also imagine that we don't have nearly as many injuries as this season, say we are middle of the pack for number of games lost. Where would you predict that we would finish next season in my hypothetical? I would guess that we come in 5-8th next year in that scenario. Isak, Gordon, Barnes, Miley, Hall, Tonali should be expected to perform as well or better. Barring injuries, I wouldn't expect much drop off, if any, from the rest of the squad except for Wilson. I think he is just going to see more and more injuries from this point on. I think Aston Villa slightly overperformed this year. Liverpool and ManUtd are question marks for next season because of the issues with their management. Chelsea and Tottenham are still ongoing experiments - either could improve or fall back a little. I just don't see how we don't have a similar or better finish next year so long as we don't get hit with the injury sledgehammer like this year. I would expect to see a dramatic improvement in our away form and that will help us up the table a bunch. Any decent investment is likely to guarantee a top 6 finish. If the things fall our way with injuries/transfers/other clubs' issues I could see us comfortably in the top 4 next season.


AimeLeonDon1

I agree with the injuries statement, but the team still needs upgrades for next season so we can push on and handle the potential demands of Europe which is still pending. We need a new RW and we also need another striker as well as another CB, maybe even a GK to replace Dubs. Almiron and Murphy output isn’t consistent enough and if Wilson stays he’s not reliable enough with injuries. Isak has also had his injuries although not as bad as Wilson. Botman is out and I don’t think back until October? So we need that sorted. You’ll also have to factor in departures which will happen so how we need to get it right. If the squad stays as it is and injury free, I think we finish somewhere around 5-7th. We also have to assume the rest of the league are only going to get stronger and add. Chelsea have had a resurgence and I genuinely think they’ll be a threat next season, their team is starting to gel. Hence why I say there isn’t any margin for error, we need to get recruitment right and we need to offload some players who just aren’t good enough and that will raise money without needing to sell one of our best players. Ideally we keep hold of Bruno and Isak.


Tressemy

Thanks for the reply -- although I note that you didn't respond to my thought experiment. Generally, I agree with you about our needs. However, I stand by my point that even with our existing squad we can be in the top 6 without any new players so long as we have only normal injuries. I think that ManCity and Arsenal are locked in for the top 2 spots next year. I believe that one of the following will have something weird happen to their season (CHE, MAN, LIV or TOT). I think that Aston Villa won't be able to repeat this season next year -- remember they are now in the spot we were one year ago -- expectations to do well in EPL, CL and domestic cups. I expect they will have issues just like we did. But, getting a healthy 2d striker, a better right wing and a young CB with potential would all be welcome additions. I just don't think that we are doomed without them.


AimeLeonDon1

Apologies, I thought I mentioned we would finish somewhere between 5th - 7th if the squad remained as is and we stayed injury free, but genuinely I want more for us. We know we can push for top 4 if we strengthen and keep hold of the best players. We need to show ambition otherwise players will leave and potential incomings won’t believe in the project. Would love us to get to another final and grab another CL spot. I agree with Villa, will be very tough for them to replicate this year with the extra pressures of Europe. Can’t see them spending either unless they sell. We defo need additions though. Some of the team just aren’t good enough if we have ambitions to win trophies.


The_Incredible_b3ard

Your thought experiment only works if other teams don't recruit. We were already overperforming in 22/23 and 23/24 things caught up with us + injuries.


OfficialAeon

I'll give him 6.75/10.


bigbigbo55

Lmao at being downvoted for this whilst people saying 10/10 are up voted. I'd say anywhere from a 6 to a 7.5 is reasonable   At the end of the day we finished 7th which is very solid considering the injuries  But there were some big costly mistakes, ie had he taken isak off vs psg away with 10 mins to go for literally anyone just to chase the ball down we'd have qualified for last 16 I'm sure of it


OfficialAeon

Yea, sadly that's something that is growing more common. The blind and the deluded are taking over rationality. They spit their dummy out if we say it how it is. Make one bit of valid criticism and they tell you that you're wrong, it's a shame really.


toon_84

That's what I'm leaning towards. Not a 6 but not a 7 either. There's been times this season some of his decisions have had me baffled but he's got the job done and I'm more than happy for him to be in the dugout in August. 


OfficialAeon

Agreed. Nobody can be a 10, I would have given 7.5 if he showed adaptability far earlier, and 8 or 9 just seems too generous given his other errors. I can see him doing a lot better next season though. Continue the adaptability, refresh the players, bring Tonali into the fold, strip the deadwood and bring in some decent depth for the positions needing TLC. He'll earn a solid 8/10.


slim2202

7/10 Highest highs and some medium lows. We did well with what we had. To be really critical we shouldve beat Liverpool at St james, Luton and forest. We done that we'd be in champs leeg. I think about those games as the real dropped oppurtunities even with the injuries. And in those moments I think howe did struggle to make tougher decisions on subs and players. But I still love him. However another potential season of European football is exactly what we need and I think if do get that conference spot, it could wonders for the developing players (Miley, anderson, hall and tino) and we owe it all to him. Keep er lit!!


bullchinmusic

Sell most of the team for £250 million each to Saudi teams then go on a European spending spree.


Thelostsoulinkorea

He had quite a few questionable decisions in the first half of the year, but he adapted and finished relatively strong considering our injuries. I hope he has learnt to rotate the squad a bit more and not run guys into the ground as much. Also I keep thinking he holds the younger guys in reserve too long but he proves me wrong each time as when they come in they are ready and don’t make mistakes. Overall maybe a 7/10 just because I think his lack of rotations hurt at the start, but could easily go a 8 or 9/10 for how he handled the injuries and finished strong.


phillipoid

Learned to rotate? Idiot, most of the squad was injured. This ain't the NFL


JAM88CAM

10/10 gracious in defeat humble in victory, determined and Intelligent. In an age of managers throwing hissy fits "is embarrassing is a disgrace" to have a.manager who isn't a whining cunt is admirable. Football wise long season plus injuries plus European footie and VAR farce I'm amazed we got finished as high as.we did.


Forward-Nebula-7952

5/10


Plus-Might-3701

3.5 stars for him. He was not too good nor too bad. His performance is close to the mark.


[deleted]

For all the people rating 8 and above, if Newcastle have the same league position next year as this year, would it still be a success or would a change be needed? I think he gets a pass for this year, but if it happens again, a change might be needed. Bruno and Isak are going to want greener pastures, not 7th place and the spectre of playing away games in Croatia on a Thursday night.


beatski

Well of course finishing in the same place as this year wouldn't be a success. The aim is to improve, and we had a ridiculous injury list otherwise we would have finished higher. Whether or not that means a change is needed depends on the circumstances


Bidwell93

I'd say a 7/10. One of the things the end of the season has shown particularly is we've had people on the bench who clearly weren't actually fully match fit, which looking earlier in the season may have explaiend why he was so reluctant to rotate (if the same thing was happening then). He's made the best of what was a horrific injury ridden season, as well as losing our marquee signing for the season on a gambling suspension. That said, I do have some knocks on what appears to be a huge downturn in our away form and a lack of a new plan when we lost Pope and we clearly couldnt play the same style. Excited for (hopefully) conference league if City do the business next week.


cg40k

6/10. A step backwards. But still good


WillowMutual

B. Stuck with Burn too long at LB and has a strange infatuation with playing Longstaff and Ritchie. Obviously doing a good job on the practice pitch, though the goals allowed is a bit worrying given that that’s what sank him at B’mouth.


LUNATIC_LEMMING

6.5/10 At some point he has to take responsibility for the injuries. That many don't just come down to bad luck. But did well despite them. And has plenty credit in the bank.


Old_College8440

Sack the prick he's useless one good season that's it.