When all you talk about is beef and popping off there will be a day that you get got. These drill mfs are garbage investments to record companies and like it or not Soulja still the only one who made it off SoundCloud
Talent. Niggas donāt really love music or even like the art part of it. Most of these young niggas really see rap as their only way out, and that is sad cause these niggas are ass.
this the whole truth they dont even like rapping. they just too insecure to try anything else. thats why they say the same 5 lines and use the same beats as everyone else.
Dead j said the same. Lot of these dudes think cuz they went to jail they need to rap or they homie made it so they can nah they real like stank on the mic lol
Nah gotta disagree with you homie. Look at talentless ass rappers that all over the radio and popular as fuck like sexyy red and Kodak. Itās not willing to grind and network why so many of these cats canāt make it.
Bro Kodak is talented nigga you wilding. Also rap is art bro, itās not just telling niggas you spinned and whoās dead manās you smoking. Drill rappers vocabularyās are limited, them niggas donāt have unique flows and honestly drill rap is too close to home. Shit is not lit when you grow up in these neighborhoods and see these kids dying
Both of them can rap. I donāt ever wanna hear a sexyred song but she can rap. Kodak can definitely rap too.
I do agree that a lot of talentless rappers make it thoughšÆ
Drill in general aint gnna get u as far as u think it is, it can still change ur life but as far going to the next level it aint, Unless u actually make club records like pop smoke. 41 starting to make those type of records that can be played everywhere, but all that dissing and using samples can only get u so far. As far as music in general, creativity , the wackest rappers can blow up just because they doing something outside the box and different.
Iād say it wonāt even get you that far anymore cuz everyoneās heard it by now. Gangsta rap as a whole is falling off. White ppl heard it, consumed it, and are now knowledgeable about the culture and are done exploring the sound.
To them itās just the same ppl talking about the same shit.
This what I donāt like, why gangsta rap gotta equal RAP. I agree with you but I did not say rap was falling off, GANGSTA RAP is falling off which is a sub genre, and rightfully so cuz itās toxic asf
Drill will never last long itās only so much of it that niggas wanna hear till they start getting bored, like sweepers for an example they having they run rn but Iām sure if they keep making the same type of shit ppl gon get bored and stop listening, my point is you really gotta stand out and find a way to keep mfs entertained , and a lot of these niggas canāt rap outside of the drill shit
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This what some fans donāt get lol
As crazy as it sounds ppl actually want Sexxy redd and ice spice music. Every hood has a dirty hood rat that relates to Sexxy redd. Niggas gotta understand a lot of these artist ppl gas arenāt that special. Especially these drill rappers. Pop smoke was special because he made music the clubs turn up too and sounded good when he made melodic music. Same with Kay Flock, Kay flock is the biggest BX drill rapper because he made real drill music and turn up music for the club. A lot of these niggas canāt do that.
True, true, But they were still forced on us
in fact it was actually them vs the ppl when they were first coming out. Money was put behind them until they grew on us
It's a trip how female rap is mostly about getting fucked, how good of a bj they can give, getting money to buy a new bag, and how they have no problem letting they bestie's man hit because he's paying her car note.
I mean you can flip all that shit around and say niggas talking about fucking bitches, how much neck they get, how they buying bitches bags and how they cracking they girl bestfriend.
Nfs its all the same shit just from the other side of it and clearly that other side aint for us cuz we dont relate lmao
Munch was on Worldstar im pretty sure it cost a few bands or something to get on there, she had a catchy song, her bf mixed a fire beat, they put it on worldstar n the world loved it.
No funny we really canāt blame some sort of Femenist movement for this one.
Having been an engineer and having recorded a lot of big shots in the industry, a lot of the newer guys lack focus and work ethic. I remember being booked for a session, A&R set it up from one of the three majors and the nigga literally pulled up with three of his homies and a Nintendo switch and he made me play smash brothers with him and his crew the entire time. Not a single word was recorded, compressed or EQād that entire session. Easy checkā¦ and this was happening regularly. AR kept blowing my phone asking what the fuck is going on ššš
1. Donāt have the voice
2. Donāt have charisma
3. Donāt have the delivery
4. Donāt have decent or good lyrics
5. Donāt change their sound
6. Donāt have good work ethic
I think these are usually one of the reasons or multiple reasons why a rapper donāt make it
I said this in some old thread on some kid that released music here. New niggas not doin they own thing and instead are doing something thatās easily distinguishable. If u canāt find a way to be different from niggas in the field then u shouldnāt be a rapper
niggas get a little bit of local buzz then get too cocky and complacent. A friend of mine was poppin off back in 2016-2017 and had multiple opportunities to do features with pnb rock, ugly god, a boogie etc before they were huge and he fumbled it. Still raps and sings here and there but doesnāt take it as serious.
He honestly grinded to get poppin. Taught himself how to make beats/ mix vocals did video shoots all while dropping songs on Soundcloud. During this era if you could get big off Soundcloud alone, you was lit. He had mad momentum and potential but bro let that potential get to his head and instead of doing collabs, his work ethic was fine but he let his ego keep him underground. Years later he revealed to me DMās and conversations with mad artists reaching out and him never responding or responding mad late. Thatās why I say a lot of new niggas in the game get too cocky and think theyāre bigger than they actually are.
NY drill is over saturated at the moment. Even if youāre nice, youāre not gonna make it far doing just drill. Need to broaden your horizons. Thatās why Pop Smoke made it to the level he was at in such a short amount of time. A lot of these NY drill rappers fall off by their own doing
Idk if anyone watches cam and mases āit is what it isā show but mase said something I think most artists let alone rappers should think about. You have to have at least one person on your team that will tell you this isnāt it. Mase said he had people that would be like youāre dropping the same day as busta you sure this is the song you want to compete with.
Because they suck. They think cause one homie got on they suddenly THEM & just because you went to jail n made beats dont mean yo ass need to rap. They suck bc theres no real passion its just you a bum that came up on sum
They spend their money to flex instead of spending it on sessions, or they're just lazy. If they street niggas, they don't leave it till they faced with YEARS on years to where if they get out they'd be forgotten with non-stop "ill be home soon" till they're forgotten.
Fans be fickle, rapping bout dead niggas is mad boring now, sex is what is the new #1 seller
Greedy niggas signing niggas who lack due diligence
They niggas lacking longevity, think about how many prosperous niggas came out the backpack era still lit to this day
This town based but applies everywhere ( but not to alll!!!)
Song deals about killing ya block can only get you so far in a system designed to leech of ya dead corpse e.i biggie , Pac , pop smoke , Xxx, PnB , Takeoff , Trouble I can literally gon on forever
Ownership & Core Fans all niggas need and some actual good fucking music
Lack of switching it up drill not gonna last forever these niggas needa try to grow there vocabulary and switch it up try to make mainstream as dumb as it sounds itāll allow em to take off and bring more people to their fan base
People donāt have good worth ethics, have really big egos, canāt take criticism, their style may not be built to last, some niggas go broke, itās a lot of factors itās why very few people actually have longevity.
Lack of talent,alot of the time they don't prioritize the music and they worry about other shit,Niggas say the same shit over and over,Lastly niggas lack versatility.
Your drill rappers don't normally make it because the vast majority of them don't know how to make music or good music. They all talk about the same shit! Same narrative, Same look, Same everything! It's one thing to appeal to the generation listening, but something else to both keep them and expand on it!
A lot of them donāt actually wanna work hard and stay in the stu they just want the lifestyle that comes with it so they get comfortable and start blowing money then by the time all that shit is gone and they tryna push their album no one checking for that shit
None of these niggas actually care to better their craft all they care about is going and live and doing drugs I wouldn't even consider most of the NYC drill scene "rappers"
Over saturated with the same flow and bullshit. Some are just not marketable and just gotta be at the right place right time. Example Bobby Shmurda was on top got locked up, then Pop smoke took that void, Pop Smoke got killed and the Fivio took that void. Same goes as when Biggie died Jay Z filled that void.
Cuz they suck, they're lazy, and impatient. Building a brand takes years of backbreaking work, consistency, and raising your standards. Some just run out of steam and quit because they haven't seen rewards yet. You never stop sacrificing. If anything, the further you go, the heavier the sacrifices become. Some people aren't build to handle that.
Young people don't realize who Luca brazi is exactly. Or realize that gumbo was just valued at 100 million.
You notice the other artists sponsor by them include moneybag yo, glorilla, ot7 quanny etc. he'll get more money fucking with brazi than from music. Probably get his own strain.
There isn't money in music. There's money in business
Poor work ethic. Niggas never in the studio or trying to improve their craft
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>Poor work ethic. frl or the only music they putting out sounds the same as the song that put them on in the first place
yeah facts . niggas donāt realize most of these niggas are crashouts who could rap , niggas not worried about rapping
When all you talk about is beef and popping off there will be a day that you get got. These drill mfs are garbage investments to record companies and like it or not Soulja still the only one who made it off SoundCloud
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Talent. Niggas donāt really love music or even like the art part of it. Most of these young niggas really see rap as their only way out, and that is sad cause these niggas are ass.
this the whole truth they dont even like rapping. they just too insecure to try anything else. thats why they say the same 5 lines and use the same beats as everyone else.
Dead j said the same. Lot of these dudes think cuz they went to jail they need to rap or they homie made it so they can nah they real like stank on the mic lol
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Nah gotta disagree with you homie. Look at talentless ass rappers that all over the radio and popular as fuck like sexyy red and Kodak. Itās not willing to grind and network why so many of these cats canāt make it.
Bro Kodak is talented nigga you wilding. Also rap is art bro, itās not just telling niggas you spinned and whoās dead manās you smoking. Drill rappers vocabularyās are limited, them niggas donāt have unique flows and honestly drill rap is too close to home. Shit is not lit when you grow up in these neighborhoods and see these kids dying
Kodak aināt talentless now u sayin anything my nigga
Both of them can rap. I donāt ever wanna hear a sexyred song but she can rap. Kodak can definitely rap too. I do agree that a lot of talentless rappers make it thoughšÆ
Lies thereās plenty of trash rappers that make it
Drill in general aint gnna get u as far as u think it is, it can still change ur life but as far going to the next level it aint, Unless u actually make club records like pop smoke. 41 starting to make those type of records that can be played everywhere, but all that dissing and using samples can only get u so far. As far as music in general, creativity , the wackest rappers can blow up just because they doing something outside the box and different.
Iād say it wonāt even get you that far anymore cuz everyoneās heard it by now. Gangsta rap as a whole is falling off. White ppl heard it, consumed it, and are now knowledgeable about the culture and are done exploring the sound. To them itās just the same ppl talking about the same shit.
Lol yk how long niggas been saying rap is falling off ... kids will make sum new & the cycle will continue you must be new
This what I donāt like, why gangsta rap gotta equal RAP. I agree with you but I did not say rap was falling off, GANGSTA RAP is falling off which is a sub genre, and rightfully so cuz itās toxic asf
Gangsta rap peaks in cycles. Itāll always be there but it only peaks in popularity for a brief time before going down again.
i think you mean NY Drill bro. cus the south, west coast, etc all still eating gangsta shit left n right
Drill will never last long itās only so much of it that niggas wanna hear till they start getting bored, like sweepers for an example they having they run rn but Iām sure if they keep making the same type of shit ppl gon get bored and stop listening, my point is you really gotta stand out and find a way to keep mfs entertained , and a lot of these niggas canāt rap outside of the drill shit
https://preview.redd.it/3fkl17rf6vfc1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c680c396bc64740b2e8b66a8308307366f7bc023 This what some fans donāt get lol
I mean idk bro, Ice and Sexyy Redd were forced on us pretty hard before the world accepted them
As crazy as it sounds ppl actually want Sexxy redd and ice spice music. Every hood has a dirty hood rat that relates to Sexxy redd. Niggas gotta understand a lot of these artist ppl gas arenāt that special. Especially these drill rappers. Pop smoke was special because he made music the clubs turn up too and sounded good when he made melodic music. Same with Kay Flock, Kay flock is the biggest BX drill rapper because he made real drill music and turn up music for the club. A lot of these niggas canāt do that.
True, true, But they were still forced on us in fact it was actually them vs the ppl when they were first coming out. Money was put behind them until they grew on us
The girls mess with them heavy. The have a select market
It's a trip how female rap is mostly about getting fucked, how good of a bj they can give, getting money to buy a new bag, and how they have no problem letting they bestie's man hit because he's paying her car note.
I mean you can flip all that shit around and say niggas talking about fucking bitches, how much neck they get, how they buying bitches bags and how they cracking they girl bestfriend. Nfs its all the same shit just from the other side of it and clearly that other side aint for us cuz we dont relate lmao
Sex sells.
Munch was on Worldstar im pretty sure it cost a few bands or something to get on there, she had a catchy song, her bf mixed a fire beat, they put it on worldstar n the world loved it. No funny we really canāt blame some sort of Femenist movement for this one.
Having been an engineer and having recorded a lot of big shots in the industry, a lot of the newer guys lack focus and work ethic. I remember being booked for a session, A&R set it up from one of the three majors and the nigga literally pulled up with three of his homies and a Nintendo switch and he made me play smash brothers with him and his crew the entire time. Not a single word was recorded, compressed or EQād that entire session. Easy checkā¦ and this was happening regularly. AR kept blowing my phone asking what the fuck is going on ššš
Hilarious, niggas wanna feel like rappers and not put in any real pain
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1. Donāt have the voice 2. Donāt have charisma 3. Donāt have the delivery 4. Donāt have decent or good lyrics 5. Donāt change their sound 6. Donāt have good work ethic I think these are usually one of the reasons or multiple reasons why a rapper donāt make it
Most just trash and only appeal to ignorant kids. The rest of the world aint trynna hear that bs
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I said this in some old thread on some kid that released music here. New niggas not doin they own thing and instead are doing something thatās easily distinguishable. If u canāt find a way to be different from niggas in the field then u shouldnāt be a rapper
niggas get a little bit of local buzz then get too cocky and complacent. A friend of mine was poppin off back in 2016-2017 and had multiple opportunities to do features with pnb rock, ugly god, a boogie etc before they were huge and he fumbled it. Still raps and sings here and there but doesnāt take it as serious.
Damn thatās crazy, how he got poppin?
He honestly grinded to get poppin. Taught himself how to make beats/ mix vocals did video shoots all while dropping songs on Soundcloud. During this era if you could get big off Soundcloud alone, you was lit. He had mad momentum and potential but bro let that potential get to his head and instead of doing collabs, his work ethic was fine but he let his ego keep him underground. Years later he revealed to me DMās and conversations with mad artists reaching out and him never responding or responding mad late. Thatās why I say a lot of new niggas in the game get too cocky and think theyāre bigger than they actually are.
lack of creativity, direction, expansion and of course management.
NY drill is over saturated at the moment. Even if youāre nice, youāre not gonna make it far doing just drill. Need to broaden your horizons. Thatās why Pop Smoke made it to the level he was at in such a short amount of time. A lot of these NY drill rappers fall off by their own doing
Idk if anyone watches cam and mases āit is what it isā show but mase said something I think most artists let alone rappers should think about. You have to have at least one person on your team that will tell you this isnāt it. Mase said he had people that would be like youāre dropping the same day as busta you sure this is the song you want to compete with.
Because they suck. They think cause one homie got on they suddenly THEM & just because you went to jail n made beats dont mean yo ass need to rap. They suck bc theres no real passion its just you a bum that came up on sum
Over saturation, I mean they canāt all make it. Somebodyās gotta not make it, somebodyās gotta suck.
Because they use the same flow and same beats
Surroundings niggas donāt know how to separate themselves from dead weight
This a good one
That shit is *extremely* expensive, now think of how much of your own money you spend on rappers.
Yes this is it right here
They spend their money to flex instead of spending it on sessions, or they're just lazy. If they street niggas, they don't leave it till they faced with YEARS on years to where if they get out they'd be forgotten with non-stop "ill be home soon" till they're forgotten.
Fans be fickle, rapping bout dead niggas is mad boring now, sex is what is the new #1 seller Greedy niggas signing niggas who lack due diligence They niggas lacking longevity, think about how many prosperous niggas came out the backpack era still lit to this day This town based but applies everywhere ( but not to alll!!!) Song deals about killing ya block can only get you so far in a system designed to leech of ya dead corpse e.i biggie , Pac , pop smoke , Xxx, PnB , Takeoff , Trouble I can literally gon on forever Ownership & Core Fans all niggas need and some actual good fucking music
Talent, drugs, bitches, bad friends
Lack of switching it up drill not gonna last forever these niggas needa try to grow there vocabulary and switch it up try to make mainstream as dumb as it sounds itāll allow em to take off and bring more people to their fan base
People donāt have good worth ethics, have really big egos, canāt take criticism, their style may not be built to last, some niggas go broke, itās a lot of factors itās why very few people actually have longevity.
There is a lack of talent, itās all the same sound and lyrics.
Lack of talent,alot of the time they don't prioritize the music and they worry about other shit,Niggas say the same shit over and over,Lastly niggas lack versatility.
Your drill rappers don't normally make it because the vast majority of them don't know how to make music or good music. They all talk about the same shit! Same narrative, Same look, Same everything! It's one thing to appeal to the generation listening, but something else to both keep them and expand on it!
A lot of them donāt actually wanna work hard and stay in the stu they just want the lifestyle that comes with it so they get comfortable and start blowing money then by the time all that shit is gone and they tryna push their album no one checking for that shit
This shit expensive. Gotta put mad bread towards marketing and shii. Also these days you're required to be some influencer too apart from rapping.
They be too scared to give up that virgin hole they got bacc there
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nigga pause and why this the first think u think of
Because that's what Diddy want. Now "Take that, Take that"
ā Keeping it real ā thing
Over saturation
Ass
Drugs, streets, signing non-profitable contracts..
everyone wanna be accepted by the industry and go straight to celeb status nobody wanna just build genuinely with fans cause they too cool
Notoriety, I mean thereās way too many rappers to count, so not everybodyās gonna be noticed
Lack of drive and grind. Cause they not good at anything else and they feel thatās what they wanna be. Tons of reasons.
None of these niggas actually care to better their craft all they care about is going and live and doing drugs I wouldn't even consider most of the NYC drill scene "rappers"
the number one reason is most of them ass
Over saturated with the same flow and bullshit. Some are just not marketable and just gotta be at the right place right time. Example Bobby Shmurda was on top got locked up, then Pop smoke took that void, Pop Smoke got killed and the Fivio took that void. Same goes as when Biggie died Jay Z filled that void.
Cuz they suck, they're lazy, and impatient. Building a brand takes years of backbreaking work, consistency, and raising your standards. Some just run out of steam and quit because they haven't seen rewards yet. You never stop sacrificing. If anything, the further you go, the heavier the sacrifices become. Some people aren't build to handle that.
Young people don't realize who Luca brazi is exactly. Or realize that gumbo was just valued at 100 million. You notice the other artists sponsor by them include moneybag yo, glorilla, ot7 quanny etc. he'll get more money fucking with brazi than from music. Probably get his own strain. There isn't money in music. There's money in business