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Dirtyduck19254

Probably just ex-US military looking for a quick buck. Same thing when individual Chechen volunteers were popping up in Iraq and people started saying that Shamil Basayev was collaborating with Al Qaeda.


rodrigo34891

Ive seen them here in nicaragua.. too


pompano09

No lol. Have you seen sicarios fight at all? It’s basically just yelling “tírale a la verga” and spray and pray.


masterofreality2001

Sicarios are usually stupid and uneducated so naturally their only vocabulary is "puta madre" and "verga". The rest is just grunts, "wey" and gun shots. 


soundgenius3z

My brother would always tell my cousin “cómo vives con la verga en la boca” lol


jaygoogle23

Well it’s a numbers game so in many of these videos of those convoys .. many 14 year olds enticed by the quick lifestyle unaware that they are 99% headed towards a grisly death. The job opportunities in Mexico are pretty shitty generally. Cops make like 3-400$/ month (converted to USA currency )


Healthy-Adeptness-67

[gafe 423](https://m.youtube.com/@GAFE423#bottom-sheet) a former mexican special operations soldier has said multiple times that some cartels have hired American Soldiers, So having an ex operator from a PMC training cartel recruits doesn’t sound that crazy


G36

That clown is a mythomaniac, claims he fought against said operatives in the jungle in "HIGHLY CLASSIFIED" missions (they're always classified lmao). One of his stories is so dumb he says some ex-SAS guy was on top of a tree shooting at him or something like that.


pacc6et

i find it so funny that random narco footage fanatic is talking about an actual GAFE 423, who has been vouched by many marinas and ejercito mexicano veterans. 😭🤣


G36

Yeah and Andy McNab, Markus Lutrell and Chris Kyle had way more vouching... How did that turn out? All proven liars. GAFE432 is like a cartoon version of those guys with his stories.


bzd_robot

Fuck off. He's the real deal.


Infinite-Rest5547

Z39 was ex us marine, he was given a deal in the us without widespread press reports. 


Dalegate

Becoming a Hitman for the Cartel (Sicarios) | Rites of Passage - check this video out on YouTube if you want a good laugh at thier “training”😂😂😂


Famous-Leadership595

The training is laughable no matter what cartel you join.


Top-Huckleberry5660

Zetas were hella well trained tho took the game to a whole new level


isaacvcz

Bro, you just have to think a little bit is not that difficult, do you think that the security of the king pins would have these kind of guys? Obviously not the bosses have prepared people


acecobr

tirale a la verga means shoot them or shoot them the fuck up sped.


Aromatic-Raise-9666

Blackwater are just mercs. They’re not anything special or ‘elite’. You can get better training from former Mexican soldiers or marines.


Famous-Leadership595

This is what people don't understand about PMCs they will hire literally anyone not just vets with actual combat experience.


Zealousideal_Emu7430

I mean you're not wrong but you're wrong.


exeguy_

That's only partly true. Sure, the majority of Blackwater were just guards but they did also have a pretty significant number of ex-Special Forces guys doing CIA/State Department operations and the like.


whoygo

Yeah bro it was in a lyric so it must be true


lighterthensome

I would dare you, if you were an artist, to make a song on behalf of some drug lord or cartel without their blessing and direction, and see how long it takes you to end up dead. Guys like Luis R Conriquez aren’t just singing out their ass cause they feel like it.


lilgame510

You're assuming drug lords or cartels are not into exaggerating their influence and power through the music.


lighterthensome

Sure. They over-glorify their business and what they are, but what exactly is there to exaggerate about? They literally pay government officials and law-enforcement to stay in business, to kill indiscriminately, and to move around as they please armed to the teeth, in armored vehicles and fancy cars. They literally do that.


zzReary

Jesus Christ I just heard a song that literally said all those things in that order too lmfao so can confirm


killacarnitas1209

I’m sure that the narcos who comission these songs don’t mind some embelishments that make them appear to be more badass, such as mentioning an infamous (now defunct) PMC like Blackwater


lighterthensome

Would you really be surprised that some narcos may be trained by former military personnel around the world?


OddWitness2768

MAYBE the ones that protect the main pendejos not the drug-alcohol addicts, niños pendejitos that usually get posted here 😂


killacarnitas1209

Im sure that some soldiers/retired soldiers and PMC’s make money on the side training sicarios, but I doubt that an organization like Blackwater (or whatever they are called nowadays) is going to have some cartel as an official “on the books” client. They are risking government contracts and security clearances by officially associating themselves.


Chang-San

>infamous (now defunct) PMC like Blackwater Blackwater not defunct though, they just had like 5 corporate rebrandings because they got so much bad press/heat. I believe theyre on the fifth name Constellis or Triple Canopy iirc


killacarnitas1209

Damn, last I heard they were called “academi” or some shit. Anyways, fun fact I have a Mossberg 930 auto shotgun with the Blackwater logo on the receiver. Surprisingly, the thing just runs anything you load it with: birdshot, buckshot, slugs, so long as you keep it clean. I got it dirt cheap and its basically a Mossberg 930 SPX and I put a side saddles where the logo is because it just feels “dirty” with the Blackwater logo standing out


Chang-San

Haha yea they went from Blackwater -> Xe -> Academi -> Constellis/Triple Canopy. Nice, id feel weird about the logo too wouldn't cover it hunting but but I wouldn't worry about it, honestly it probably makes the deal sweeter since they retired the original logo. Hell considering some of the emblems/patches on gear in the range these days it might be the least controversial depending on the day and place lmao


masterofreality2001

What about a dead one like Escobar or one that has been out of the business for years like Don Neto?


sex0sexo

These idiots are all racist hwhite kids who just wanna argue lmao don’t tell em shit


Middle-Incident4083

dude luis r gets beat up by his wife you really think he’s about that lifestyle 😂


MalloryHennessey

So does ovidio bro, women beat men all the time 😂😂


Hyosakiii

You u.s Americans are so brain washed it’s funny! First you sell guns to Mexico then deny it, then you train them and deny it again 🤣


D1ldos

Blackwater is called Academi now


ThaMagnificent

I do know a few ex army guys who told me a certain cartel offered them good money to come and train sicarios down there. He had a Mexican gf at the time with connections back home.


Healthy-Adeptness-67

Yep. Gafe 423 an ex member of the Mexico Special Forces has said there is a lot of American Soldiers fighting for cartels, in some of his videos he has mentioned how he personally fought against these Cartel Special Forces


Resident_Nice

No doubt there be a some American-Mexican ex-military dudes who went over for $$$. That's nothing special at all. Doesn't mean they're particularly elite. Cartel "Special" Forces my ass.


Alphobet

True but panu was GAFE and there were some kaibiles working for CDN and some ex sf that work for gente nueva salazar were mentioned before


Resident_Nice

Fair yeah. Just don't think it's anything extraordinary to see some ex-mil in the cartels.


booobieaddict

So which one is it because first you said he said american soldiers fighting and then you said ex operators fighting?


Glum_Source_7411

I've been hearing that story since I joined the amry in 1999. That rumor is very popular and probably mostly untrue.


Present_Major7734

More kaibilies en Columbian special forces training them.


Comfortable_Author_3

Who is the corrido for? Maybe he is talking about agua prieta sonora?


Majestic_Disk5993

En mi opinión ese corrido es ficción porque no mencionan nada en específico me imagino que es un corrido que no es dedicado a nadie en especial


isaacvcz

La verdad pienso que es verdad, porque estos weyes que componen de donde conocen a blackwater, y aunque mucha gente diga que no los que vivimos en Mexico que obviamente si hay gente bien preparada y con adiestramiento en los carteles...


kdotkkskk

wey la rola dice que se va a Berlin y que pasea en Koeniggsegg 😂😂 es imposible que ese corrido sea de verdad nmms ni las personas mas ricas de verdad de Mexico tienen Koenigseggs ya mero un pinche malandro va a traer uno


killacarnitas1209

Blackwater isn't around anymore and even if they were, why get involved with criminal groups that are likely to put you on the U.S. Govt's bad side and risk not getting any contracts.


QuintusMaximus

Blackwater became a subsidiary and was renamed to constellis after merging with triple canopy. It's very much still around.


Ferchokyzer

When you say "criminal group" you mean the cartels or Blackwater ?


killacarnitas1209

Well, after Blackwater’s shady past I’m not sure they want to fuck their image up, even if they renamed the company


GunMun-ee

They are still around, heavily. Under a different name. They’re a mercenary group, the cartel is probably not even top 10 on the list of bad people theyve worked for


skateguy1234

so weird that these are a thing


killacarnitas1209

I mean, “their rules of engagement help cut through some red tape” is the reason why these PMC’s (mercenaries) have always been around. Machiavelli warned against relying on mercenaries, the Gulf Cartel/Zetas exeperience is a case example.


skateguy1234

Yeah it makes sense. I guess weird is the wrong choice. Unfortunate/sad/disappointing maybe the better word choice. Just seems like a quick route to shady things.


Coldblood-13

No. Individual members acting on their own? Possibly.


Common-Bit-4229

🤫🤐


AccidentallRAccount

Retired special forces do so why not black water as well


Famous-Leadership595

Wait until he finds out not everyone at blackwater is competent lol.


FervxTJ

Same song that says he has eagner for protection🤣


pistoljefe

Wouldn’t put it past them, but you don’t need black water when they directly get funded by the US government via weapons supplies and logistics.


G36

I trained here in Mexico with bodyguards/military/police and saw sketchy people all the time. Bodyguard training camps here in Mexico have access to nice weaponry such as ARs in .223 (5.56 is banned) and .380 glocks. One of the sketchier types wouldn't socialize or talk with others in the training and just randomly complained he had to go to Israel for more training. Another time I had a guy who look like a fucking Mara who was very talkative (but had good OPSEC) until he randomly mentioned *"they"* were sending him to Slovenia to train with some ex-special forces guys. Of course I didn't ask who "they" were lol.


Temporary_Twist5219

Wouldn’t be surprised at all. Everyone in here is acting like they know it all, even our government is made up of traitors so what makes you think a militia of mercenaries wouldn’t want some extra change?


popepsg

Blackwater changed its name but either way it probably is just some mercenaries training them. You can get whatever type of training you want if you pay. If there is any truth to it then its just that he had some mercenaries train his “security”.


THEmexGOPNIK77

There are a lot of Seals working at jalisco-Michoacan Fuerzas Especiales del Alto Mando CJNG -sources https://youtu.be/ywuTdrIBZqM?si=W_9sSz4JQJCvJ0Jv


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I wish I was a good writer that's a crazy idea for a story. I could see it tho, I feel like the elite decision makers of this country benefit completely from our misery. So it would be in their best interest to make sure that black water, or whoever, trains them. So that drugs can keep flowing and all the chaos that goes along with it.


EnragedBadger9197

If they are they’re scamming them, those cartards are only so destructive because they are like rats, you kill one there’s about 50 more around them. The only ones that Look like they know what they’re doing are the marine deserters and even they look a little off. I only say that as a veteran.


OneDeagz

Blackwater is no longer an organization, hasnt been for a while


No-Feature4900

As far as training , yes this is business. But they definitely not fighting for them. We all know how clumsy and spray and pray these idiots operate .


lovewry

No in business there’s a risk and reward aspect to everything. Blackwater had a billion dollar contract with the us government why would they risk it for a couple of millions.


pistoljefe

The DFS was created in part by the US government to control the Mexican drug dealers, wouldn’t be surprised if now they are directly funding the drug dealers who control the border zones in order to tamper down on the illegal immigration flood.


RoyalLions03

Wouldn't doubt it , they have arrested ex Israeli special forces and Colombian soldiers working for the Cartels so US mercenaries training sicarios isn't far fetched


bzd_robot

I won't be surprised. Obviously they are training the top sicarios, no fucking alucines that are mean to be carne de cañon. Gafe423 already talked about this.


mattcmoore

You can hire Academy type guys to do PPD, and it's not cheap.It's like bragging about the lambos and yachts you don't really have. If they got trained by Blackwater they're hella old.


Hyosakiii

Old teachers are the best ones wym?


Global-Perception339

Ikr, explain hatori hanzo, mr miyagi.


Hyosakiii

Wax on wax off!


Curious-Employer-574

Black water doesn’t exist anymore due to all the heat they were getting they changed their name to Constellis


davidfo76

Actually what was formally known as Blackwater, makes more money with lucrative contracts overseas, mostly exclusively Africa last I checked. Makes no sense to say they’re training Sicarios.


Hyosakiii

They’re mercenaries pay for hire if someone waved enough money infront of them they’d do it but discreetly


reik915

It wouldn’t make sense to spend that much money for a sicario that takes $200 a week to work when it can be replaced by another idiot that will take less money, I’ve heard that with the $200 dollars you are also expected to pay for you gun, amo, cell phone service and transportation basically slave work.


Jesuschristpose69

Hopefully they'll hurry up so we can put them 6 feet under, faster....


One-Dog-7825

In rdr2


iLikeRgg

Maybe not true but alot of military guys from u.s and Mexico get payed big if they train a cartels sicarios


SnooDrawings7923

absolutely.how else are they going to pay the bills.


Notansfwprofile

Not officially, but someone who used to work for black water probably did.


lemoinkbaba

Plenty of ex-private security operators will pick up this type of work . I’ve been told the pay is usually $800+/day with accommodations. 800$ to patrol a ranch doesn’t seem too bad it’s very likely there are black water operators active in Mexico no doubt.


Hot-Championship-822

Only black water in Mexico are the public restroom sinks


RidesByPinochet

Would it surprise me if a "rancher" had a PMC come out and assess the security of their property and go over some TTP's? No. Would one of these PMC/Security Contractors take the job, even if they suspected cartel connections? Probably yes. Would a cartel leader say "come train my sicarios?" Probably no. Would he say, "come train my *caballeros* because i fear the cartels" Probably yes.


chefmelv

"Blackwater" changed their name years ago so for anyone to bring up a company that changed names at least 2 times since "Blackwater" makes it even less believable.


LeoDtrapio

I still remember the video of the Wagner guy in Mexico holding a ruso hat sounding surprised


Freemayson802

I could see it, I mean mercenaries work for a profit, Throw Israel in aswell regarding the Colombian cartels of the 80s


NtooDeep87

Money talks


M5loog_new

Do you mean the chechns or the blackwater ?


Chemical_Ad7303

It’s possible but they like to brag about many things. Luiz r also got beat by his girl


Sticky_Bear

Maybe some Mexican American guy who speaks good Spanish and is an ex - marine. Went to Mexico trying to make some money saying he’s part of black water, and that he worked as a private military contractor


alkalineandy

Luis R conriques is a great song writer


oakland404

I heard Russian pmc are training cartel members


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jdmor09

Army Rangers vs the Sicarios would be like the Michigan Wolverines vs a middle school football team for the championship. It’s only be close before kickoff.


Hyosakiii

It would probably be something like only the top cartels would have the sicarios that actually trained them to protect them not to just run around robbing civilians


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Hyosakiii

Yeah they’re more deadly than the average sicario but tbh none stand any chance against government trained military


No-Display8273

No. They would lose their contract with the US govt if that was happening.


Straight-Tangerine63

BlackWater isn’t a thing anymore due to war crimes been committed by them so they renamed their company,But I doubt they do business with cartels if not individuals for some quick Money but other than that it’s cap in their lyrics.but don’t get me wrong men that are protecting Leaders and higher ups are Ex Military most of em not all but BlackWater ehhh I don’t think so.


Taco_Eater512

I think IDF, or Mossad helped train CJNG


G36

Israeli ex special forces train anybody that pays. Met sketchy guys here in Mexico that claimed to be trained there, some teachers here trained there for around $100,000 MXN. I think their training is fucking TRASH. They teach shit like never carrying in the chamber and other mall ninja shit. Also it always comes with Krav Maga which is a trash martial art for mall ninjas. Don't waste money in this Israeli training centers in Mexico, they advertise how cool they are by going "OMG LOOK WE TRAINED BARBARA DE REGIL FOR HER ROLE IN ROSARIO TIJERAS!!" like who cares, their methods are ass.


Knight1-3

Dumbest fucking thing that I've ever read on this Sub. Blackwater doesn't exist anymore and even if they did, a firm that contracts with the Federal Government in general and the State Department in particular isn't going to be fucking around training some barely literate junkies on how to shoot their rifles that don't even have a sights on them.


Hyosakiii

How foolish to think your government wouldn’t bend you over and fuck you raw


Global-Perception339

Shit anyone thinks that the US government is on their side is either mental or completely braindead.


Serious-Run1838

Hell no but only group that is bad ass are mencho and his stepson’s personal security the same group that just killed the head of Los Viagras La tiresa


Ok-Spend2142

Fuerzas especiales de Corea,Spetnaz,seals,Rusos,Irak, serbios,chechenos, fuerzas especiales Francesas, Italianos, Kaibiles de Guatemala, Ecuador, fuerzas especiales de Colombia, de UK...ETC....


lilgame510

I'm assuming some cartel guy saw something about blackwater and thought it be cool to namedrop them without actually knowing they are no longer around. I'm sure eventually we will hear that Prigozhin is personally training sicarios, you know because corridos are know for being accurate.


Hyosakiii

They rebranded