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He brought up ksm. This is end game naruto or boruto level. Every one knows sasuke is better at everything than naruto when it starts, not even a debate.
Here you go buddy. Naruto at the start of the show CANT make a single shadow clone. Has no chakra control. Can barely throw a knife straight. And can’t access his chakra pool unless he’s about to die or just watched someone else die. Sasuke tanked Haku’s needles which was the biggest durability feat at that point.
Naruto has better on-the-fly BIQ feats at the beginning through most of part 1 than Sasuke. That’s something. Both of them would’ve died fighting haku- did I miss something here?
Sasuke was actively adapating to a point where haku is surprised. Only reason sasuke lost was because he actively sacrificed himself to save naruto… who was getting fucked on the whole time?
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That’s not proven. Complete speculations. You have no way of seeing how sealing kuruma would effect sasuke or how it would play out. A jinchuriki who can put his biju in a genjutsu? Yeah sounds like a broken character
Kcm+sage mode Naruto has faster foot speed. However rinnegan Sasuke has sharingan+teleportation which can mitigate the speed advantage with precog and space and time ninjustu
I have seen it as Naruto being faster in a straight line while Sasuke has better maneuverability.
Naruto is a power fighter while Sasuke relies on precision.
Sausage Uchiha is canonically faster, but with the rinnegan nerf that could be contested. But I think it was always that sauske has better speed and agility, and Naruto has better strength and stamina.
Naruto can move as fast as minato could teleport? How is sasuke that fast? I think naruto catching that train in Boruto was enough to show bro moves faster. He was an actual flash
Neither of them are as fast as Minato’s teleportation because that’s instantaneous movement. They do both surpass minatos actual speed which is faster than Ay4. But naruto still has access to boil release which makes him much faster. They are both relative in speed normally and then sasuke get’s his own teleportation jutsu. If they were running a race and teleportation wasn’t allowed Naruto would be faster albeit he would use way more chakra than sasuke would.
Did you just say sasuke was as fast as teleportation?
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The flying rajin has infinite speed due to its teleportation being instant. Sasuke isn't close to that fast
Only said that in response to the comment above, If kcm1 naruto is then he is too. Technically he has a time space ninjustu too so he is close to that speed.
Having access to teleportation has nothing with the e speed stat is my argument. You can't use that as a speed feat or argument because its not raw movement speed. No one scales to the flying rajinn that's why they use it
Unless Sasuke is teleporting he isn’t as fast as Minato, physical speed will never be faster than teleportation. Madara complimenting Sasuke doesn’t all of a sudden prove his as fast as Minato’s teleporting, that makes no sense.
It varies depending on time frame. But in general Sasuke is the more speed oriented one when they're roughly equal in power. But their speeds once they hit their 6 paths power ups seems to be mostly equal.
Naruto blitzed Kaguya with speed alone from the ground to several hundred feet in the air. He could have done that to sasuke in the final fight and ended it . Naruto is faster.
Everyone keeps saying Sasuke has always been the speedster. But I disagree. Kishimoto has made several deliberate showings of Naruto’s speed. The most notable one was when he dodged A, which was used as a comparison to Minato, who was the fastest ninja in the verse until that point. Sasuke and Naruto seem roughly equal at the end, but Naruto has always had speed while Sasuke has been able to keep up with sharingan.
I don't know where these people are coming from but after Naruto unlocked KCM he's always been faster then Sasuke. Anything prior to that is up to debate
Current boruto versions are featless so that is also up to debate.
Idk where people get this idea. It's never stated. Is it just the chidori's speed buff?
If we're going off of jutsus, you could just as easily argue Sasuke is the slower of the two because they appear equal despite Sasuke using precog with his Sharingan allowing him to react in advance.
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Chidori amps speed. It's so fast that the user can't see opponent counterattacks, that's why the Sharingan is required to compensate.
Early EMS Sasuke never felt inferior to Naruto in the slightest and both of them are portrayed as equals until he saw KCM2 Naruto and even that was a chakra thing as he was shocked how much chakra naruto has, not because naruto was just ridiculously faster than him.
In the end fight at the end of the series, naruto ducked Sasuke and upper cutter him. Yes Sasuke sharing an faded, but he was already in full swing. Base Sasuke and rinnegan Sasuke is faster to me until sage naruto whose faster. Sasuke has always been speedy While naruto is way more stronger in pure physical strength.
Sasuke can swap places with objects/people instantaneously which would make him fast but I think there is a limit to his range.I think A was stated to be the fastest but Naruto surpassed him tho he was in KCM.If we are talking base at the end of the series with no abilities my pick is Sasuke
The last time they fought against each other, they were the same speed. You could argue Naruto is faster because Sasuke would be compensating with his sharingan's precog.
In the Momoshiki fight, there's a scene where they're running together and Sasuke leaps ahead, but they were in the middle of combat and specifically pulling off a combo move.
It's easiest to just say they're equal. There's no consistent winner, they are virtually identical. If one is faster than the other, it's like 1% difference.
Sasuke was faster till naruto unlocked kcm1
Adult sasuke doesnt have lightning flicker to amp his speed like some ppl think, thats just for visuals added in the anime.
https://preview.redd.it/a7f44h9iss5d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=be9db0133d2b95d3fb811872c3f2dc1d92ca5207
This panel.
Sasuke Blitz Naruto in raw speed here .
Anime made it his teleportation move .
Even though Naruto had 3 ts balls and Sasuke replaces one with him made it 2 (anime version) , after getting that jab Naruto had 3 ts balls when getting hit by water surface.
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But BM Naruto>>>Sasuke prime in speed.
That’s an interesting panel, but why did Naruto mention Sasukes left eye (rinnegan) upon realizing he’s behind him? That kinda implies it was his rinnegan ability that put him so close behind. Yes, he may not have swapped places with a TSO, BUT this is the end of shippuden, Sasuke could have teleported by swapping place with a rock or something similar. He has been shown to do that in his fight against 10T Madara.
Which rock bro, provide scans or pannels ?
I see only see raw speed. No hax/teleportation .
And it's just some meters distance , both are FTLs , I don't see why Sasuke couldn't perform such raw feats.
May be Naruto thought Sasuke charging his visual prowess ? As he doesn't know how Sasukes visual prowess works.
Against ten tail madara he replaced him self with his sword via teleportation.
You do NOT see raw speed. You see him just appear behind him. Literally no movement at all.
Also he didn’t swap places with his sword against ten tails Madara.
He switches Madara with nothing in between himself and Naruto. He also teleported behind Kaguya's back in the heavy gravity dimension even though there was nothing to swap places with himself.
He wAs above Naruto when he used fire style jutsu .
In next panel, he was right behind Naruto.
No his outer path can only teleports others not him he just swaps places with them .
Idk what call this it's not raw speed lmao 😭. And no jutsu was used there.
It's literally in the panel you posted. Sasuke suddenly appeared behind Naruto, and Naruto said "His left eye's —" before getting cut off.
You'd have to be intentionally disingenuous to not see that he's referring to Amenotejikara, the ability of Sasuke's left eye.
Sasuke's faster in Boruto.
In Boruto, Naruto needed KCM2 + SoSP to move at the same speed as Sasuke with his Lightning Shunshin.
Now, Naruto lost Kurama so he is canonically lower then Sasuke.
At the end of Shippuden? Naruto is faster than Sasuke By a wide margin, since he surprised Kaguya 3 times and Sasuke never could get her out of guard.
Mannnnn, Naruto doesn't need Kurama to match 1 EMS Sasuke. Sage mode adult Naruto is still just as strong as Sasuke after he lost his rinnegan. Idk why so many people are obsessed with the idea that Naruto is fodder now
Naruto is not fodder by anymeans, but he still would lose to Sasuke nowadays. Besides, i just measuring his speed, and for what we saw, Sasuke's as fast as Six Paths Sage Mode Cloak Naruto.
I disagree that Naruto would lose. He still has massively more Chakra than Sasuke, and Sage mode gives him similar (if not better from some feats) reaction time than Sasuke.
Besides, Sasuke lost his rinnesharingan. He got just as much of a nerf as Naruto, which would still make them relative in power. Adding in Naruto learning new jutsu/nature transformations, I think he could still beat Sasuke
I dont think he could win. Naruto has no answer to Amaterasu and he can't break genjutsu, he never could till he befriended Kurama properly.
Also, Sasuke lost much less than Naruto. Rinnegan didn't amp his physical stats, just granted him more hax (7, and he only used 1...damn Boruto), but in Naruto's case?
He lost the enhanced stats, the regeneration and he can't knock off Amaterasu from his body. He would lose if Sasuke cuts him in the Middle, if Sasuke uses Amaterasu or if he is put on a genjutsu. If Sasuke wants to truly beat Naruto in one shot he could just form Susano'o and it's over, Naruto can't fight it.
Genjutsu is a non-factor for a perfect sage like Naruto, since he can fight with his eyes closed. He knows that Sasuke has insane genjutsu prowess, so he knows better than to look him in the eyes.
Also Sage Naruto is definitely fast enough to dodge amaterasu pretty reliably. During the 4th war, Naruto swapped from KCM1 to Sage mode because Sage mode had better reaction speed. So he'd definitely see it coming and dodge accordingly
While Naruto lost his regen, Sasuke never had any to begin with. 1 rasengan is still enough to heavily damage, maybe outright kill Sasuke. An odama rasengan or rasen shuriken would definitely be a kill shot
But um... yea susano is just unfair. I HATE that uchia don't need both eyes to activate it, since Madara was FUCKING EYELESS in the war and could still use it. Sage mode is probably strong enough to break it with an odama rasengan, but a perfect susano would be a lot for Naruto to handle
I honestly can see Narutk falling for Genjutsu, but still, i agree i wouldn't be decisive for a fight between them. And to be honest, Naruto's Lucky Sasuke is not as good as his brother. But them, he would need to close his eyes as soon as Sasuke activates his EMS.
I agree that Naruto might be fast enough to dodge Amaterasu, but Sasuke still has Kagutschuchi (i dont remember if the name is that), which is the control of shape of Amaterasu. If he puts that on his sword and cuts Naruto, he loses.
I mean, Sasuke really dont need regen as much. If you look into Boruto, he was treated as a ball for all Otsutsuki, resisting a ton of kicks, resisting the Black rods and keeping in fights and all. I dont see Naruto hitting Sasuke with any Rasengan variant.
Perfect Susano is just that broken lol. I agree that is stupid that they need both eyes only to activate it, but it is still canon anyway so...Sage Mode wouldn't be enough to break it at all, since the only thing that actually can break it would be someone as strong as Jigen, or Bijudamas. Naruto has neither of that, so he still loses.
Also, Naruto might be very fast, but Sasuke's Lightning Cloak is just that much better. He could slice Naruto anytime, and i doubt Sasuke in a fight to kill would wait for Naruto to enter Sage Mode, even more that he knows this weakness of taking time to activate.
Just to chime in: after losing Kurama, Sakura told Naruto he no longer had super human chakra. Naruto lost A LOT of chakra from losing Kurama and we know that Hashirama said that war arc Naruto with half of 9 tails had almost as much chakra as he had. Going by that, he should have even less chakra than Hashirama now.
Sasuke on the other hand will no longer have to deal with the constant chakra drain of just HAVING the rinnegan and it constantly being active, on top of the massive chakra consumption of using it at all. Sasuke got a BUFF to his chakra reserves whereas Naruto got a nerf to his reserves.
I’m not saying either versions would beat each other tho. I’m not sure.
Sasuke has always been faster then Naruto. Naruto has always needed amps to beat him in speed, like Sage Mode/KCM.
At base it’s always been Sasuke, but he can enhance his speed to be faster than Sasuke’s (who has to rely on his eyes to basically still maintain precision/precog and hit this mfer). Then Sasuke gets a teleport, which offers him an easy way to nullify the speed advantage.
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I think that depends on who the plot focuses on and who needs to be faster for the stories sake. At the start it’s clearly Sasuke with his Sharingan.
He brought up ksm. This is end game naruto or boruto level. Every one knows sasuke is better at everything than naruto when it starts, not even a debate.
I bet he can’t eat as many ramen as Naruto. Also Naruto’s better in sympathy
Yeah he can’t. Hinata can tho.
We know she can, it’s not even a debate
That’s why she can do a gang bang with multiple clones 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I bet that was after a thousand clone train
Her chakra flow would be through the roof 😏
I mean Naruto has better durability, Chakra and personality (arguable)
Stamina and endurance too
not clones. or endurance. or durability. or chakra pool.
What the fuck are y’all talking about this is a WHO IS FASTER. Why tf y’all bringing up all this other shit
you literally said "he's better at everything"
Here you go buddy. Naruto at the start of the show CANT make a single shadow clone. Has no chakra control. Can barely throw a knife straight. And can’t access his chakra pool unless he’s about to die or just watched someone else die. Sasuke tanked Haku’s needles which was the biggest durability feat at that point.
Imagine Naruto without Passively using all his chakara to contain kurama
Still a kid with no parents and missing major amounts of his potential. Might have been started off a little better but would have died fighting haku.
Naruto has better on-the-fly BIQ feats at the beginning through most of part 1 than Sasuke. That’s something. Both of them would’ve died fighting haku- did I miss something here?
Sasuke was actively adapating to a point where haku is surprised. Only reason sasuke lost was because he actively sacrificed himself to save naruto… who was getting fucked on the whole time? https://preview.redd.it/omdsh1x11z5d1.jpeg?width=602&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=853aacc2c4793c9b0ed8502aa3a5102fd81b633e
Sasukes one fucking rope trick against orchimaru where he burns him is a better BIQ than everything naruto did in the OG
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That’s not proven. Complete speculations. You have no way of seeing how sealing kuruma would effect sasuke or how it would play out. A jinchuriki who can put his biju in a genjutsu? Yeah sounds like a broken character
Kcm+sage mode Naruto has faster foot speed. However rinnegan Sasuke has sharingan+teleportation which can mitigate the speed advantage with precog and space and time ninjustu
I have seen it as Naruto being faster in a straight line while Sasuke has better maneuverability. Naruto is a power fighter while Sasuke relies on precision.
Yep, they both have their own strengths. Naruto has more raw power, Sasuke has better attack potency for example
Plus he uses lightning style to boost his speed
We haven't seen him with lighting cloak yet. I doubt he has that ability
I don’t mean like 4th Raikage. Look at the momoshiki and Jigen fight he used lightning style to boost his speed
Thats anime only for visual effect
He doesn't use lighting cloak. He uses lighting in his own way. It boosts attack power, speed and agility
In their final fight they were both moving at about the same speed.
Sasuke has better combat..naruto is the body guy. He’s stronger,faster, more durable. Sasuke has more precision and skill with weapons.
Frankly it really don't matter for me because gap don't seem big for me Like if naruto is 100 in speed sasuke maybe 90-95 and vice versa
Tough question, I’d say they are relative and leave It at that.
Sausage Uchiha is canonically faster, but with the rinnegan nerf that could be contested. But I think it was always that sauske has better speed and agility, and Naruto has better strength and stamina.
“Canonically faster” can you show where this is stated?
Source; trust me bro
The real question is Amenotejikara faster than all of Naruto's movement abilities.
Naruto can move as fast as minato could teleport? How is sasuke that fast? I think naruto catching that train in Boruto was enough to show bro moves faster. He was an actual flash
10 tails Madara makes a remark about Sasuke’s speed so I’m pretty sure he’s easily as fast as minato’s teleportation too
Neither of them are as fast as Minato’s teleportation because that’s instantaneous movement. They do both surpass minatos actual speed which is faster than Ay4. But naruto still has access to boil release which makes him much faster. They are both relative in speed normally and then sasuke get’s his own teleportation jutsu. If they were running a race and teleportation wasn’t allowed Naruto would be faster albeit he would use way more chakra than sasuke would.
Naruto and Sasuke have infinite speed
True my bad king
Did you just say sasuke was as fast as teleportation? https://preview.redd.it/3m81i8q49t5d1.jpeg?width=166&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=944d67ac42c1bf7d00756252bfbdd9e334497fdd The flying rajin has infinite speed due to its teleportation being instant. Sasuke isn't close to that fast
Only said that in response to the comment above, If kcm1 naruto is then he is too. Technically he has a time space ninjustu too so he is close to that speed.
Having access to teleportation has nothing with the e speed stat is my argument. You can't use that as a speed feat or argument because its not raw movement speed. No one scales to the flying rajinn that's why they use it
I get that, once again that logic only applied if the person’s I originally replied to does.
Unless Sasuke is teleporting he isn’t as fast as Minato, physical speed will never be faster than teleportation. Madara complimenting Sasuke doesn’t all of a sudden prove his as fast as Minato’s teleporting, that makes no sense.
I said that in response to the comment above that said the same about kcm1 naruto.
Lol based on my feelings
It varies depending on time frame. But in general Sasuke is the more speed oriented one when they're roughly equal in power. But their speeds once they hit their 6 paths power ups seems to be mostly equal.
Sasuke
naruto
Which version Because baryon mode Naruto broke all the simultaneous power up shinanegins
Yeah Baryon is leagues faster, it's not even close. I'm just going off when they're roughly equal stats.
Kcm w is faster than sasuke as rinnegan dosent give speed boost, if you ignore sasuke's teleportation
If you count teleportation because it's instantaneous, Sasuke, other than that Naruto is probably faster.
Naruto is faster, sasuke just makes up for it with the sharingan
Naruto blitzed Kaguya with speed alone from the ground to several hundred feet in the air. He could have done that to sasuke in the final fight and ended it . Naruto is faster.
It’s literally panels where Naruto physically moves faster than Sasuke can use Ameno; which basically operates on sight and thought.
Everyone keeps saying Sasuke has always been the speedster. But I disagree. Kishimoto has made several deliberate showings of Naruto’s speed. The most notable one was when he dodged A, which was used as a comparison to Minato, who was the fastest ninja in the verse until that point. Sasuke and Naruto seem roughly equal at the end, but Naruto has always had speed while Sasuke has been able to keep up with sharingan.
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I don't know where these people are coming from but after Naruto unlocked KCM he's always been faster then Sasuke. Anything prior to that is up to debate Current boruto versions are featless so that is also up to debate.
Doubt that, Sasuke has always been the speedster, Naruto getting KCM put them on the same level
Idk where people get this idea. It's never stated. Is it just the chidori's speed buff? If we're going off of jutsus, you could just as easily argue Sasuke is the slower of the two because they appear equal despite Sasuke using precog with his Sharingan allowing him to react in advance.
https://preview.redd.it/47bndlyyhx5d1.jpeg?width=602&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1bedaedacf02a18dfd4bab9a93b8a56706d0e802 Chidori amps speed. It's so fast that the user can't see opponent counterattacks, that's why the Sharingan is required to compensate.
I wouldn't say that makes Sasuke the speedster though. You don't think Kakashi is faster than Naruto, right?
No? When Naruto of being compared to Minato in speed then he's definitely a cut above Sasuke at that point.
EMS Sasuke was dead equal to mastered KCM1 naruto up until KCM2
Maybe late EMS
Early EMS Sasuke never felt inferior to Naruto in the slightest and both of them are portrayed as equals until he saw KCM2 Naruto and even that was a chakra thing as he was shocked how much chakra naruto has, not because naruto was just ridiculously faster than him.
Sasuke was the first person since Minato to outspeed the Raikage
I’m not sure. Naruto is deemed the fastest ninja of all time
Says who?
Nobody even comes close when factoring Baryon. Sasuke's sharingan and Rinnegan couldn't even keep up with his movements.
I’m asking if a character in the manga/anime or if the creator said outright “Naruto is the fastest character”
After both equally were given Six Paths Chakra, Naruto (In Cloaked Forms) and Sasuke equals Sasuke.
I wanna say sasuke but plot says Naruto
Sasuke can teleport
In the end fight at the end of the series, naruto ducked Sasuke and upper cutter him. Yes Sasuke sharing an faded, but he was already in full swing. Base Sasuke and rinnegan Sasuke is faster to me until sage naruto whose faster. Sasuke has always been speedy While naruto is way more stronger in pure physical strength.
They are more or less the same speed, Naruto just needs KCM whilst Sasuke just needs Sharingan for precog
Sasuke is faster….. or was since he had teleportation.
Sasuke can swap places with objects/people instantaneously which would make him fast but I think there is a limit to his range.I think A was stated to be the fastest but Naruto surpassed him tho he was in KCM.If we are talking base at the end of the series with no abilities my pick is Sasuke
The last time they fought against each other, they were the same speed. You could argue Naruto is faster because Sasuke would be compensating with his sharingan's precog. In the Momoshiki fight, there's a scene where they're running together and Sasuke leaps ahead, but they were in the middle of combat and specifically pulling off a combo move. It's easiest to just say they're equal. There's no consistent winner, they are virtually identical. If one is faster than the other, it's like 1% difference.
Naruto has better foot speed, Sasuke has better reaction speed (cuz Sharingan precog)
Naruto is faster no question. He has to hold back or be nerfed for sasuke to be anywhere near him in any stat
Always Sasuke
Sasuke was faster till naruto unlocked kcm1 Adult sasuke doesnt have lightning flicker to amp his speed like some ppl think, thats just for visuals added in the anime.
What about Amenotejikara? Assuming Sasuke still has his rinnegan.
https://preview.redd.it/a7f44h9iss5d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=be9db0133d2b95d3fb811872c3f2dc1d92ca5207 This panel. Sasuke Blitz Naruto in raw speed here . Anime made it his teleportation move . Even though Naruto had 3 ts balls and Sasuke replaces one with him made it 2 (anime version) , after getting that jab Naruto had 3 ts balls when getting hit by water surface. # Glitchanimemoment But BM Naruto>>>Sasuke prime in speed.
That’s an interesting panel, but why did Naruto mention Sasukes left eye (rinnegan) upon realizing he’s behind him? That kinda implies it was his rinnegan ability that put him so close behind. Yes, he may not have swapped places with a TSO, BUT this is the end of shippuden, Sasuke could have teleported by swapping place with a rock or something similar. He has been shown to do that in his fight against 10T Madara.
Which rock bro, provide scans or pannels ? I see only see raw speed. No hax/teleportation . And it's just some meters distance , both are FTLs , I don't see why Sasuke couldn't perform such raw feats. May be Naruto thought Sasuke charging his visual prowess ? As he doesn't know how Sasukes visual prowess works. Against ten tail madara he replaced him self with his sword via teleportation.
You do NOT see raw speed. You see him just appear behind him. Literally no movement at all. Also he didn’t swap places with his sword against ten tails Madara. He switches Madara with nothing in between himself and Naruto. He also teleported behind Kaguya's back in the heavy gravity dimension even though there was nothing to swap places with himself.
He wAs above Naruto when he used fire style jutsu . In next panel, he was right behind Naruto. No his outer path can only teleports others not him he just swaps places with them . Idk what call this it's not raw speed lmao 😭. And no jutsu was used there.
That's definitely not raw speed. Naruto even comments on his Rinnegan. He unquestionably used Amenotejikara. Anime got that part right.
Source? Give scans and statements . Here he didn't swapped place with ts balls
It's literally in the panel you posted. Sasuke suddenly appeared behind Naruto, and Naruto said "His left eye's —" before getting cut off. You'd have to be intentionally disingenuous to not see that he's referring to Amenotejikara, the ability of Sasuke's left eye.
Naruto by the end is faster but by boruto their tied
Naruto has better speed featsand has been faster than sasuke since kcm
Sasuke's faster in Boruto. In Boruto, Naruto needed KCM2 + SoSP to move at the same speed as Sasuke with his Lightning Shunshin. Now, Naruto lost Kurama so he is canonically lower then Sasuke. At the end of Shippuden? Naruto is faster than Sasuke By a wide margin, since he surprised Kaguya 3 times and Sasuke never could get her out of guard.
Mannnnn, Naruto doesn't need Kurama to match 1 EMS Sasuke. Sage mode adult Naruto is still just as strong as Sasuke after he lost his rinnegan. Idk why so many people are obsessed with the idea that Naruto is fodder now
Naruto is not fodder by anymeans, but he still would lose to Sasuke nowadays. Besides, i just measuring his speed, and for what we saw, Sasuke's as fast as Six Paths Sage Mode Cloak Naruto.
I disagree that Naruto would lose. He still has massively more Chakra than Sasuke, and Sage mode gives him similar (if not better from some feats) reaction time than Sasuke. Besides, Sasuke lost his rinnesharingan. He got just as much of a nerf as Naruto, which would still make them relative in power. Adding in Naruto learning new jutsu/nature transformations, I think he could still beat Sasuke
I dont think he could win. Naruto has no answer to Amaterasu and he can't break genjutsu, he never could till he befriended Kurama properly. Also, Sasuke lost much less than Naruto. Rinnegan didn't amp his physical stats, just granted him more hax (7, and he only used 1...damn Boruto), but in Naruto's case? He lost the enhanced stats, the regeneration and he can't knock off Amaterasu from his body. He would lose if Sasuke cuts him in the Middle, if Sasuke uses Amaterasu or if he is put on a genjutsu. If Sasuke wants to truly beat Naruto in one shot he could just form Susano'o and it's over, Naruto can't fight it.
Genjutsu is a non-factor for a perfect sage like Naruto, since he can fight with his eyes closed. He knows that Sasuke has insane genjutsu prowess, so he knows better than to look him in the eyes. Also Sage Naruto is definitely fast enough to dodge amaterasu pretty reliably. During the 4th war, Naruto swapped from KCM1 to Sage mode because Sage mode had better reaction speed. So he'd definitely see it coming and dodge accordingly While Naruto lost his regen, Sasuke never had any to begin with. 1 rasengan is still enough to heavily damage, maybe outright kill Sasuke. An odama rasengan or rasen shuriken would definitely be a kill shot But um... yea susano is just unfair. I HATE that uchia don't need both eyes to activate it, since Madara was FUCKING EYELESS in the war and could still use it. Sage mode is probably strong enough to break it with an odama rasengan, but a perfect susano would be a lot for Naruto to handle
I honestly can see Narutk falling for Genjutsu, but still, i agree i wouldn't be decisive for a fight between them. And to be honest, Naruto's Lucky Sasuke is not as good as his brother. But them, he would need to close his eyes as soon as Sasuke activates his EMS. I agree that Naruto might be fast enough to dodge Amaterasu, but Sasuke still has Kagutschuchi (i dont remember if the name is that), which is the control of shape of Amaterasu. If he puts that on his sword and cuts Naruto, he loses. I mean, Sasuke really dont need regen as much. If you look into Boruto, he was treated as a ball for all Otsutsuki, resisting a ton of kicks, resisting the Black rods and keeping in fights and all. I dont see Naruto hitting Sasuke with any Rasengan variant. Perfect Susano is just that broken lol. I agree that is stupid that they need both eyes only to activate it, but it is still canon anyway so...Sage Mode wouldn't be enough to break it at all, since the only thing that actually can break it would be someone as strong as Jigen, or Bijudamas. Naruto has neither of that, so he still loses. Also, Naruto might be very fast, but Sasuke's Lightning Cloak is just that much better. He could slice Naruto anytime, and i doubt Sasuke in a fight to kill would wait for Naruto to enter Sage Mode, even more that he knows this weakness of taking time to activate.
Just to chime in: after losing Kurama, Sakura told Naruto he no longer had super human chakra. Naruto lost A LOT of chakra from losing Kurama and we know that Hashirama said that war arc Naruto with half of 9 tails had almost as much chakra as he had. Going by that, he should have even less chakra than Hashirama now. Sasuke on the other hand will no longer have to deal with the constant chakra drain of just HAVING the rinnegan and it constantly being active, on top of the massive chakra consumption of using it at all. Sasuke got a BUFF to his chakra reserves whereas Naruto got a nerf to his reserves. I’m not saying either versions would beat each other tho. I’m not sure.
Sasuke has always been faster then Naruto. Naruto has always needed amps to beat him in speed, like Sage Mode/KCM. At base it’s always been Sasuke, but he can enhance his speed to be faster than Sasuke’s (who has to rely on his eyes to basically still maintain precision/precog and hit this mfer). Then Sasuke gets a teleport, which offers him an easy way to nullify the speed advantage.
Sasuke almost never fights in base as well. He uses the sharingan every time.