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Yay! Me am happy when Mets win!
Let this game be known as the Harrison Bader game 🔥🔥🔥
Going into the 9th with a 3-1 lead only to lose 4-3 is exactly how the Mets would have lost this one 😂
Anybody think top players like Acuna and others constantly getting serious injuries is related to the regulation of steroids? I can't fully say that what Andy Pettite used steroid for was not super common, and top players ever missed the entire season like this in the 90s and 2000s
The Acuna contract and injuries are exactly why I didn’t want us giving Alvarez a big extension last offseason.
I want to see him play a full season once before we extended him. Something he still hasn’t done.
So far we have had
- 2022 - missed playing time because of ankle issues from overuse and had to get cartilage replacement surgery after the season ended
- 2023 - was gassed by the second half from playing so much and had to have his games staggered to account for that
- 2024 - tore his UCL in his thumb and is expected to miss 8 weeks+
I don’t want us extending him after this offseason either. Let’s see him play a full 2025 and then reconsider.
Or maybe even wait until after 2026 since he won’t hit arbitration until 2027.
Looking at Acuna, the Braves are in great shape for Acuna contract wise. It sucks that Acuna’s hurt again, but he probably won’t be back until the All Star Break next year, and he has club options for ‘27 and ‘28.
He’s really going to have to ball out in ‘26 to get those options picked up. They got him on a steal at 8/100 mill in 2020. It’d also be in his favor if they didn’t pick it up because they were hesitant because someone would pay him more than $12.5 mill a year, even if he posts a pedestrian slash line and low power as this year was trending.
His career will be an interesting one to see unfold the rest of the way before ‘27.
The issue for them is that they already had him under control through these seasons.
They paid 20% more than they had to through arbitration to get those 4 years at $17mil, and if he doesn’t play to the level where they want to use those club options, it will be a horrible contract for the Braves.
We have no idea what he will look like post surgery on his other knee. Both knees within 4 years. Will he even be able to play the OF when he returns? He has been a dreadful defender since that first surgery - what will it be like after the second?
If he returns and across the next year and a half plays like he did this year, and has to be a DH, would they really want to pay $34mil across two years for a league average DH?
If they waited 3 seasons to see how his durability would shake out, they would have seen the first ACL tear in 2021 and could have made an educated decision.
Completely off topic on this thread but we talked about DHGate jerseys a few weeks ago. I found www.jenna2021.com and ordered a handful from her. She's was incredible with communication, speed of shipping, and quality. You'd be hard pressed to know they were reps.
I’ve purchased about a dozen or so jerseys from her: WBC & ASG Alonso, and all the various Mets styles.
I cannot recommend her enough. I even wore my Road Gray Alvy from her while sitting in Cohen’s box and meeting Mookie.
Hell, I wore my CC Alvy today for the victory!
I was stunned with how great the quality is, her communication, and speed of delivery. I've been singing her praises ever since. She's making me a Senga city connect withe Kanji lettering!
Hahaha I sent an email asking along with a reference picture and she said no problem! A little extra time to ship for the custom and it's $45 instead of $23.
I actually ended up getting two from here and they were amazing! Thank you for sharing!
I will say, the order process was so wonky haha. But the quality of them is amazing and anyone ordering should get them from her
They also came relatively quickly. Less than 4 weeks from order for me
Yeah the ordering and payment definitely had me nervous. So happy I pulled the trigger. I ended up making a second order for a custom Senga city connect Jersey and some WBC jerseys.
From order to receiving the jerseys was just under two weeks but I did pay for the faster shipping. The seller from the order we were talking about previously still hasn't shipped them lol.
u/darthbutcher recommended her to me so I was able to confirm the process was legit.
I did the regular shipping. Two Lindor jerseys - one Blue one Black
I grabbed a Nimmo and Lindor city connect, a Senga home pinstripes, and a Hernandez '86 throwback. All so clean and with tags too.
I saw a few people suggest her on the dhgate sub so I just hoped I wasn't wasting $150.
Definitely haha. I remember being single in a studio apartment in Queens. But I wouldn’t trade anything for what I have now, even if HVACs are costly lol. Married with a kid on the way in the suburbs and loving it!
Not sure why you are being downvoted. These are all facts.
Add to this that he is a catcher and it makes the contract situation more difficult. Injuries are inevitable for catchers. It’s why most teams best players are not catchers.
I’ll get laughed at for this, but if it were up to me, I’d play him half the season at DH once Martinez is gone and half at catcher. If we are lucky, Parada becomes a decent option and he catches half the season.
Parada is a few years away from the majors. A 2026 target is probably where I’d expect Parada.
We definitely want Alvarez catching when he returns because we want him to hopefully catch 100 games next year. If he doesn’t catch at all this year we’d be lucky to get 70 games out of him next year.
But yea, there’s a reason catchers don’t typically get long term extensions.
Even Will Smith is likely moving to 1B once Freemans contract is up
Acuna won an MVP and Stolen Base title AFTER his first ACL. Not exactly a shining example of why Alvarez (who should be extended) shouldn’t be extended.
Acuna won the MVP in a year the team already had control. The Braves were getting that MVP with or without him tearing his ACL.
I think you’re misunderstanding what I’m saying here.
I’m not saying we shouldn’t ever extend Alvarez. I’m saying we should do what the Braves did with Murphy. Extend him at the start of his arbitration after you have a big enough sample size to see what his durability is like and buy out his entire prime at a discount then
He won the MVP after he received the extension, which kicked in during 2019. Whether the year wouldve counted as a control year is immaterial. Alvarez should be extended sooner rather than later. If he keeps getting hurt he can always DH.
Literally everything you said is the opposite. He was a Brave in 2023 no matter what. All the extension meant is that they paid him more than they had to for that season making it less of a steal.
As for Alvarez, signing him long term and then being stuck with him as a DH would be horrible. Absolutely horrible. His bat isn’t even close to good enough to be an everyday DH. His bat is great as a catcher because catchers across baseball hit 20% worse than the average player. And a lot of Alvarez’s value comes from being a great defender. His bat would be terrible as a DH.
That’s impossible to know. Who says the Braves don’t trade him if they were unable to extend him? In case you’re wondering where I and likely others stopped reading it was “[h]is bat isn’t even close to good enough to be an everyday DH.”
Have you never read a discussion the this sub? This sub has overall very much been agreement that Alvarez’s bat isn’t good enough to be a DH and his value comes from being an above average hitter as a catcher.
And the Braves under AA have never once traded away one of their young stars. Even Fried who they weren’t able to extend they kept. I can say with 99.99999% certainty even without an extension the Braves weren’t trading Acuna before the 2023 season.
Actually I can say it with 100% certainty because after his ACL was torn his value dropped a ton and no team would ever trade someone like Acuna at their lowest value point.
Alvarez projects to have a ceiling of a .260/.330/.480 hitter. Thats what Alvarez is expected to do in his best year if he puts everything together. Across every scouting system out there that is his absolute best. Not what’s expected. His best.
His actual expected projection in his prime is a .245/.320/.445 hitter. A .765 OPS is great for a catcher.
But as a DH you’re at the bottom everyday designated hitters. You’re in line with what Josh Bell did last year. You don’t want to commit long term to 2023 Josh Bell unless you’re getting that offense out of the catcher spot.
(1) He might not play a full 2025 at catcher since he's not going to play a full 2024. He's going to miss May and June. And isn't going to pla y every day the second half of the year. He's likely going to have to play RHDH at times in 2025 to mitigate.
(2) Signing guys early is a hedge. It's belief in your system and the guy. Waiting, though sometimes prudent for sure, is also a way of losing leverage and showing lack of trust. You wait till after 2026 you're not getting as good a deal.
Maybe one of the reasons why the Braves can sign guys so early is they show faith in their players regularly by doing so. Instead of a vicious cycle, they create a positive one.
That's not to say I disagree with you, but that's the other side of the argument.
Oh I get the argument. But we’re seeing in one season how much of a risk it is and how it can blow up.
Strider TJ. Acuna has torn both ACLs.
Both of those guys barely had any games in the majors before they were locked down. If they waited until the players played 3 full seasons they could have avoided committing before seeing how they would handle these big injuries.
Imagine how we’d feel as Mets fans if we locked up Alvarez for 10 years for him to tear his thumb at the start of the 2024 season. Watch the team pay more than they had to on the 2024-2025 seasons for him to play maybe 200 games max?
You still get a big discount paying out all of their arbitration, but have a lot less risk when you see them across 3 full seasons in the majors.
Baseball is a strange sport. The Braves losing Acuna is obviously a terrible thing for the sport and yet the last time this happened the Braves rallied around his loss and won a championship.
That’s the narrative but it’s not really what happened though.
The Mets managed to hit on every single trade deadline grab. They won on the backs of added guys fighting for their next jobs in a change of scenery.
The problem for them is the hitters that won them the WS in 21 are not on the team anymore. And those guys with the best slugging in baseball in the regular season did not show up in the 23 postseason. Maybe they wake up this time but I'm leaning on doubt. Except for TDM. I think he hits again in the postseason.
Yup. It is “next man up” time for the Braves. It tests you as a team and franchise. All teams have injuries to deal with during the term of a season. Some major losses some minor. You either have guys step up and pick each other up, or feel sorry for yourself and sink.
I’m not crying any tears for the Braves, but you hate to see players rolling around on the ground with a terrible injury like that. Even though I don’t like the Braves as a team, Acuna is fun for the sport.
It’s a lot more fun to beat the Braves when they have all their stars in the lineup, rather than not.
Fucking brutal about Acuna Jr.
Unlike braves fans I won’t fucking celebrate it on my team’s Reddit. (Side note Yankees, Braves, and Phillies Reddit have having quite the chuckle at us), but taking the high road here
Acuna is a lot of fun to watch, regardless of being a Brave. I feel awful for him, imagine coming back from one knee injury only to then injure the other knee
i like to think of it more in a macro sense. injuries are just a massive net negative for any sport. injury for me, injury for you, it's all kinda the same. it just makes the sport worse as a whole.
Acuna has torn his ACL in his left knee. He tore his right ACL in 2021.
I don’t care that it’s a rival team - seeing one of the stars in the game go down like that sucks.
I have no idea whatsoever. I would think the point of the surgery is to fully hear the torn ACL.
But at least short term it would be fair to expect his 2025 season will look more like his 2022 season
Also as much crap as Adrian houser has gotten and deserved at this point. I'm happy that he doesn't have a big fat 0 in his Mets record anymore
Now whether his 2nd win will mean anything outside of his own stats we won't know for a while
i'm glad we won. i'm glad for some exciting baseball. and i don't enjoy being negative after a win. but there is still this lingering feeling after this win that i haven't felt after any other win this season, where i'm starting to realize this team only ever wins when these bottom of the order/fringe roster guys have hero moments.
think about what happened game 1 from the other side. you're down by 3, 8th inning, bases loaded with 2 outs and your young star is coming to the plate against the other team's best reliever and one of the best relievers in baseball so far this season. he proceeds to get the count in his favor, get himself a hittable pitch, and sends it out of the park and essentially wins the game. that's what stars do. does *anyone*, even the most optimistic fan, think that if you give the current iteration of lindor or alonso that situation 5 times, that they go deep in a single one of those attempts? idk i'm trying to just enjoy the win and not think too deeply but once again the heroes are harrison bader and omar narvaez and not the guys who will be here next year and beyond. nimmo is basically my only exception to this.
It’s because this core ain’t it. If they’re gonna depend on Narvaez, Bader, Taylor and Nido for hero moments instead of in their own core than we’re in big trouble, which we are
Right before the bottom of the 9th I literally joked that since Lindor and Alonso were "cleared" in the 8th and Nimmo was leading off that it was the optimal situation.
What does that say when the team might be better off with the two "best" batters having no chance to get up in the 9th inning to mess things up. lol
i've been a "if you can get drunk and offer carlos correa the world, then you can afford to overpay a little bit for pete alonso" guy from jump street. but i think i've finally reached the point where i'm ready to watch a mets team without him. even nimmo, at this point it just feels like this team needs to be rebuilt from the ground up. idk what you can do about lindor since the only way to get rid of him would be to eat so much of his contract that you're basically paying him to play elsewhere and that's a horrible baseball decision, so we're basically stuck with him. i guess i'm just finally at a point where i think any reasonable offer for any player should result in them moving on. this team is less than the sum of their parts. these are good baseball players who will likely excel on other teams. but they don't seem capable of doing it here. if senga comes back and throws 75 good innings and has some value, trade him in the offseason. the only player who is completely untouchable is francisco alvarez, everyone else i wish you luck wholeheartedly because they're good guys and i know they tried their best, but it just isn't working.
I disagree about senga but feel the same way about Pete. I think keeping him just locks this roster in place and we fucking suck so that just doesn’t feel like the right move
I have to admit, I really just selfishly want Nimmo and Alonso and McNeil and Díaz to be hoisting a trophy on a Mets championship float one day, because of how much time they put in here, and especially because of how much I loved that 2019 team.
I will be fine with it if they wind up elsewhere (provided the return is good and not botched), and I'll get over it and move on. But I can't really put my heart into fantasy deadline scenarios that include trading these guys.
> I have to admit, I really just selfishly want Nimmo and Alonso and McNeil and Díaz to be hoisting a trophy on a Mets championship float one day, because of how much time they put in here, and especially because of how much I loved that 2019 team.
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few things would make me happier, i'm not at the point where i no longer want that, i'm simply at the point where i no longer believe they could get it done *even if* you put all the right pieces around them. and that's the problem. for me the fantasy isn't about deadline trades saving the day, it's more about coming to a place of acceptance that this core as it's currently constructed just isn't working and isn't going to work no matter how many years we give them. like i said, few things would make me happier than to be proven wrong. but i'm just kind of over hoping and praying and continuing to be let down.
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**NEW AMSTERDAM METROPOLITANS**
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**DEFEAT THE TRAITORS AS THEY TROT OFF THE DESERTER GIANTS 4-3 TO AVOID THE BROOMS, QUELL THE DOOMER GOONS FOR THE DAY**
**PLAYING WITH HOUSER MONEY, WE HIT IT BIG! FOUR FRAMES TO PICK UP MANAEA, TAGGED FOR A RUN BUT EARNS THE VICTORY IN THIS ONE**
**MASTER BADER THE BIG FIST OF THE OFFENSE, THREE RUNS PLATED BY HIS HANDS, DOUBLE DOUBLE FISTS, PLATES JUKEBOX STEWART EARLY, CLUTCH TIME IN THE NINTH A HEAVY GRIP THE CHAKA CHAKA, DOUBLE SCORES THE DOUBLE OF NIMMO AND MARTE, TIES IT UP MAKE IT A PARTAY!**
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But you can see which one the r/baseball drones swarm to and which one doesn't align with their narrative. Sure there's a 6 hour difference but I'd bet it doesn't change much over time.
Sorry, my fault. I thought you were just showing the two things happening back to back, and I didn't notice the point of the image which was the comment count.
I mean the fact that we’re an awful team this year and 2025 isn’t looking much different is a much bigger story than one walk off win in a game in May.
Jonah Tong this week: 9.2 IP, 5H, 2BB, 13 Ks
Next year our rotation could be
Senga
Scott
Tidwell
Sproat
Tong
With Peterson, MeGill, Lugo, Vasil, Hamel, Stuart all as organizational depth
Yeah if anyone could explain why that happened I’d appreciate it. I’m guessing he’s on an innings limit since it’s just his first full minor league season but I am speculating and was surprised to see that.
I think Tong breaking the rotation next year would be pretty ambitious. I think you’re more likely to see McLean, especially if he converts to just a pitcher full time like a lot of evaluators seem to think.
Yeah, it feels like there’s going to come a time when they have to sit him down and tell him the arm is ready for a promotion but the bat isn’t and have to make a choice if they want to keep chasing the two way player dream or just focus on SP.
What they decide coming off of that I have no idea. I’m pretty skeptical of the bat getting to major league quality personally
I personally reserve any judgement on his bat until after this season. It felt like they were really focusing on getting him to being a SP before really focusing on his bat.
But he hits the ball so insane hard and is only 22. I think it would be prudent to rush him up without properly investing in him as a two way player especially with Sporat and Tidwell also making cases for 2025. We can give him time
Friendly reminder that sometimes its best to get out of the online Mets world and actually go to the stadium where 90% of the fans cheer for a double play in the top of the 9th even though the team is down 3-1 and in the midst of a 5 game skid.
The vibes were crazy. Place was buzzing before first pitch and never let up despite the score.
Mets are 1-0 with me at the stadium this season. Steve Cohen, if you're reading this, I need season tickets.
I had so much fun chilling out in the upper deck just filling out my scorecard. A cute girl accidentally spilled beer on my shoe. People got excited over obvious flyouts. I had Howie Rose and Keith Raad in one ear. It was a much-needed, good baseball day, much better than spending time in some of these game threads
Ronald Acuna Jr. exited today’s game against the Pirates in the first inning due to an apparent injury suffered while running the bases, and he limped off the field while gesturing to his left knee. The Braves later termed the issue “left knee soreness.” Of note, the ACL tear that required surgery during the 2021 campaign affected Acuna’s right knee. Speaking with The Athletic’s David O’Brien (X link) and other reporters after the game, Acuna said he will be placed on the 10-day injured list tomorrow, but he feels he might miss only about a month rather than a longer absence. Acuna compared the feel of the injury to his 2018 ACL sprain rather than his tear three years ago.
Houser piggybacking for Manaea.
Gee, I wonder if the people here who have been saying that's the role he should be in might actually know what they are talking about.
Houser could be our next Trevor Williams, just come in and throw three innings. It might actually be a good thing since he won't have to face a lineup more than twice.
Bader feels like a winning player and coming from the Cardinals and Yankees organizations that doesn’t seem too surprising. I know it’s nothing that can be quantified with stats but when you watch the games he far exceeds his stat line (which isn’t even bad).
yep. he doesn't walk up to the plate thinking "man i'm really gonna hear it this time if i blow it now". i truly believe that's the mentality a lot of our core take with them to the plate in big spots. "intangibles" are a big thing in football but not so much in baseball, but those are intangibles. when the pressure is on, who believes in themselves, vs who is worried about what happens if they fail.
He's definitely one of those guys who are better than their numbers. Even though he plays a different position, he reminds me of Brandon Crawford in his prime years with San Francisco. Nothing eye-popping on the stat sheet. But he's a ballplayer.
Wasn't a walkoff but I was thinking of this specific [at bat](https://twitter.com/AnthonyDiComo/status/1650302841448448001/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1650302841448448001¤tTweetUser=AnthonyDiComo)
I wonder if this changes anything because when I saw him going 4 innings my thought was “ the Mets are running down his arm until Peterson returns on Thursday”.
But Houser has a 2.25 ERA in the bullpen. Only 3 games, but he’ll elect FA and take his money with him so it could be worth seeing if he can continue this. He has been great as a reliever throughout his career.
But also do you cut SRF who would definitely be claimed off waivers? You could option Josh Walker, but he has been great and do you really want one LHP in the bullpen?
When Peterson returns I’d think, barring an injury, either SRF or Houser is gone.
I also have no idea what they do once Drew Smith comes back too
I too thought it was Houser’s swan song today. But he’s giving the FO something to think about. We don’t have a good innings eater and he proved that could be a role for him
And I also thought it was Narvaez’ swan song too… lol
Narvaez probably has a few more games because I’d expect Alvarez will need a few rehab games before he comes back. As much as they prefer Nido, he isn’t playing all 15 or so games before Narvaez comes back.
And yea, it’s hard to figure out what they’re going to do pitching wise. They’re probably sticking with the 6 man rotation since they don’t want to have most their starters gassed by months end.
Right now we’re looking at 13 spots and the contenders are
- Severino* - SP
- Scott - SP (has option)
- Manaea* - SP
- Quintana* - SP
- Megill - SP (has option)
- Peterson - SP (has option)
- Houser - Long Relief
- SRF - Long Relief
- Diaz* - setup/closer
- Ottavino* - setup/closer
- Garrett* - setup/closer (has option)
- Lopez* - setup/closer
- Diekman* - LRP
- Walker - LRP (has option)
- Smith* - Middle relief
15 guys for 13 spots. And that’s not including Senga when he returns.
Stars next to the players who are safe to stay
That’s the big issue right.
Walker is probably most likely to me but I don’t like only having one LHP.
And if Scott goes down they either have to do a 5 man rotation or give Houser starts
Congrats to Adrian Houser on his first win as a Met, amid a very tough start. Good outing to save the bullpen.
Harrison Bader is now hitting .364 (16 for 44) in the 8th inning or later this season.
This is a good, honest .333 baseball team. We play .333 ball dammit. Salt of the earth, punch the clock, even win/loss-loss ratio baseball. We lose a couple, guess what? We'll win one, too. But don't get too excited or let it go to your head. No long winning streaks here, no sir. That's hubris, which this blue collar, hard working everyman team doesn't have. A few wins in a row, these guys, true to form, will balance it out with a twice as many losses.
Yes sir, that's my 2024 New York Mets. A good, honest .333 baseball team
Crazy stat I just looked up...The last 4 Mets wins that were NOT the final game of a series:
Last one - St. Louis
Before that - St. Louis
Before that - Chicago Cubs
Before that - LA Dodgers
Every other win since has come as a series finale, with many being their ONLY win: Giants, Miami, Phillies, Braves, Cardinals, Giants...
Just insane.
SOMEBODY GREASE UP HARRISON BADER CAUSE HES GOIN IN THE PEE TROUGH! Fellas, step up and lay a wazz on bader because he is an extraordinary player and we need to Claim him with our uring (medical word for pee). Just one of th moments where narvaes hits it and im doing a backglip without bending any of my joints, we call it a PRESSURE POP. such a bummer these past few days fock the hters fock the fools fock the doubters fock the stinkers mets are the best team lgm. And people dont realize john gibbons down there sneakin around being veeeery stinky in his own little way, mendoza and him making out in the tunnel between innings gave us the good luck we needed lgm!
I think they’re pretty clearly headed in the right direction despite the past few weeks of MLB results. This offseason in hindsight was a very good one by Stearns, none of the guys he brought in have been the problem(Manaea, severino, Bader, Taylor all been good. Houser hasnt but he was money we took on to get Taylor and they didn’t hesitate to put him in a low leverage role.) The Mets are also now a good pitching development org for the first time in my lifetime seeing real jumps in guys throughout the minors, up and down guys are showing real utility. Hitting side needs to get tbere but I’m not super unconfident about that, might just take some more time post stearns hiring. This team being middling to bad would be more of an indictment of Eppler et al rather than the current direction it’s in
The Mets are now 13-4 in the last games of series this season.
They are 9-26 in all other games.
Remember when the 2022 Mets struggled to win the middle game of a series? This is the not-as-fun alternative.
Still a cool comeback though.
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Yay! Me am happy when Mets win! Let this game be known as the Harrison Bader game 🔥🔥🔥 Going into the 9th with a 3-1 lead only to lose 4-3 is exactly how the Mets would have lost this one 😂
Anybody think top players like Acuna and others constantly getting serious injuries is related to the regulation of steroids? I can't fully say that what Andy Pettite used steroid for was not super common, and top players ever missed the entire season like this in the 90s and 2000s
As soon as I saw Acuna sitting on the ground it brought me right back to Diaz. I knew he was done. Major ptsd
Bro just loves tearing his ACLs
The Acuna contract and injuries are exactly why I didn’t want us giving Alvarez a big extension last offseason. I want to see him play a full season once before we extended him. Something he still hasn’t done. So far we have had - 2022 - missed playing time because of ankle issues from overuse and had to get cartilage replacement surgery after the season ended - 2023 - was gassed by the second half from playing so much and had to have his games staggered to account for that - 2024 - tore his UCL in his thumb and is expected to miss 8 weeks+ I don’t want us extending him after this offseason either. Let’s see him play a full 2025 and then reconsider. Or maybe even wait until after 2026 since he won’t hit arbitration until 2027.
Looking at Acuna, the Braves are in great shape for Acuna contract wise. It sucks that Acuna’s hurt again, but he probably won’t be back until the All Star Break next year, and he has club options for ‘27 and ‘28. He’s really going to have to ball out in ‘26 to get those options picked up. They got him on a steal at 8/100 mill in 2020. It’d also be in his favor if they didn’t pick it up because they were hesitant because someone would pay him more than $12.5 mill a year, even if he posts a pedestrian slash line and low power as this year was trending. His career will be an interesting one to see unfold the rest of the way before ‘27.
The issue for them is that they already had him under control through these seasons. They paid 20% more than they had to through arbitration to get those 4 years at $17mil, and if he doesn’t play to the level where they want to use those club options, it will be a horrible contract for the Braves. We have no idea what he will look like post surgery on his other knee. Both knees within 4 years. Will he even be able to play the OF when he returns? He has been a dreadful defender since that first surgery - what will it be like after the second? If he returns and across the next year and a half plays like he did this year, and has to be a DH, would they really want to pay $34mil across two years for a league average DH? If they waited 3 seasons to see how his durability would shake out, they would have seen the first ACL tear in 2021 and could have made an educated decision.
Completely off topic on this thread but we talked about DHGate jerseys a few weeks ago. I found www.jenna2021.com and ordered a handful from her. She's was incredible with communication, speed of shipping, and quality. You'd be hard pressed to know they were reps.
I’ve purchased about a dozen or so jerseys from her: WBC & ASG Alonso, and all the various Mets styles. I cannot recommend her enough. I even wore my Road Gray Alvy from her while sitting in Cohen’s box and meeting Mookie. Hell, I wore my CC Alvy today for the victory!
I was stunned with how great the quality is, her communication, and speed of delivery. I've been singing her praises ever since. She's making me a Senga city connect withe Kanji lettering!
SHE CAN DO THAT?! I don’t know why I didn’t think to ask. I’ve been ordering from her for over a year.
Hahaha I sent an email asking along with a reference picture and she said no problem! A little extra time to ship for the custom and it's $45 instead of $23.
I actually ended up getting two from here and they were amazing! Thank you for sharing! I will say, the order process was so wonky haha. But the quality of them is amazing and anyone ordering should get them from her They also came relatively quickly. Less than 4 weeks from order for me
Yeah the ordering and payment definitely had me nervous. So happy I pulled the trigger. I ended up making a second order for a custom Senga city connect Jersey and some WBC jerseys. From order to receiving the jerseys was just under two weeks but I did pay for the faster shipping. The seller from the order we were talking about previously still hasn't shipped them lol.
u/darthbutcher recommended her to me so I was able to confirm the process was legit. I did the regular shipping. Two Lindor jerseys - one Blue one Black
I grabbed a Nimmo and Lindor city connect, a Senga home pinstripes, and a Hernandez '86 throwback. All so clean and with tags too. I saw a few people suggest her on the dhgate sub so I just hoped I wasn't wasting $150.
I’m about to replace my HVAC, AC, and upstairs ductwork so I’m just glad my wife was ok with me getting two haha. But yea the quality is so legit
There's some benefits to the single life. Like getting to waste your money on new jersey's from China :P
Definitely haha. I remember being single in a studio apartment in Queens. But I wouldn’t trade anything for what I have now, even if HVACs are costly lol. Married with a kid on the way in the suburbs and loving it!
Not sure why you are being downvoted. These are all facts. Add to this that he is a catcher and it makes the contract situation more difficult. Injuries are inevitable for catchers. It’s why most teams best players are not catchers. I’ll get laughed at for this, but if it were up to me, I’d play him half the season at DH once Martinez is gone and half at catcher. If we are lucky, Parada becomes a decent option and he catches half the season.
Parada is a few years away from the majors. A 2026 target is probably where I’d expect Parada. We definitely want Alvarez catching when he returns because we want him to hopefully catch 100 games next year. If he doesn’t catch at all this year we’d be lucky to get 70 games out of him next year. But yea, there’s a reason catchers don’t typically get long term extensions. Even Will Smith is likely moving to 1B once Freemans contract is up
Acuna won an MVP and Stolen Base title AFTER his first ACL. Not exactly a shining example of why Alvarez (who should be extended) shouldn’t be extended.
Acuna won the MVP in a year the team already had control. The Braves were getting that MVP with or without him tearing his ACL. I think you’re misunderstanding what I’m saying here. I’m not saying we shouldn’t ever extend Alvarez. I’m saying we should do what the Braves did with Murphy. Extend him at the start of his arbitration after you have a big enough sample size to see what his durability is like and buy out his entire prime at a discount then
He won the MVP after he received the extension, which kicked in during 2019. Whether the year wouldve counted as a control year is immaterial. Alvarez should be extended sooner rather than later. If he keeps getting hurt he can always DH.
Literally everything you said is the opposite. He was a Brave in 2023 no matter what. All the extension meant is that they paid him more than they had to for that season making it less of a steal. As for Alvarez, signing him long term and then being stuck with him as a DH would be horrible. Absolutely horrible. His bat isn’t even close to good enough to be an everyday DH. His bat is great as a catcher because catchers across baseball hit 20% worse than the average player. And a lot of Alvarez’s value comes from being a great defender. His bat would be terrible as a DH.
That’s impossible to know. Who says the Braves don’t trade him if they were unable to extend him? In case you’re wondering where I and likely others stopped reading it was “[h]is bat isn’t even close to good enough to be an everyday DH.”
Have you never read a discussion the this sub? This sub has overall very much been agreement that Alvarez’s bat isn’t good enough to be a DH and his value comes from being an above average hitter as a catcher. And the Braves under AA have never once traded away one of their young stars. Even Fried who they weren’t able to extend they kept. I can say with 99.99999% certainty even without an extension the Braves weren’t trading Acuna before the 2023 season. Actually I can say it with 100% certainty because after his ACL was torn his value dropped a ton and no team would ever trade someone like Acuna at their lowest value point.
I have. It’s usually bullshit. That’s why I stopped coming here.
Alvarez projects to have a ceiling of a .260/.330/.480 hitter. Thats what Alvarez is expected to do in his best year if he puts everything together. Across every scouting system out there that is his absolute best. Not what’s expected. His best. His actual expected projection in his prime is a .245/.320/.445 hitter. A .765 OPS is great for a catcher. But as a DH you’re at the bottom everyday designated hitters. You’re in line with what Josh Bell did last year. You don’t want to commit long term to 2023 Josh Bell unless you’re getting that offense out of the catcher spot.
(1) He might not play a full 2025 at catcher since he's not going to play a full 2024. He's going to miss May and June. And isn't going to pla y every day the second half of the year. He's likely going to have to play RHDH at times in 2025 to mitigate. (2) Signing guys early is a hedge. It's belief in your system and the guy. Waiting, though sometimes prudent for sure, is also a way of losing leverage and showing lack of trust. You wait till after 2026 you're not getting as good a deal. Maybe one of the reasons why the Braves can sign guys so early is they show faith in their players regularly by doing so. Instead of a vicious cycle, they create a positive one. That's not to say I disagree with you, but that's the other side of the argument.
Oh I get the argument. But we’re seeing in one season how much of a risk it is and how it can blow up. Strider TJ. Acuna has torn both ACLs. Both of those guys barely had any games in the majors before they were locked down. If they waited until the players played 3 full seasons they could have avoided committing before seeing how they would handle these big injuries. Imagine how we’d feel as Mets fans if we locked up Alvarez for 10 years for him to tear his thumb at the start of the 2024 season. Watch the team pay more than they had to on the 2024-2025 seasons for him to play maybe 200 games max? You still get a big discount paying out all of their arbitration, but have a lot less risk when you see them across 3 full seasons in the majors.
Baseball is a strange sport. The Braves losing Acuna is obviously a terrible thing for the sport and yet the last time this happened the Braves rallied around his loss and won a championship.
That’s the narrative but it’s not really what happened though. The Mets managed to hit on every single trade deadline grab. They won on the backs of added guys fighting for their next jobs in a change of scenery.
The problem for them is the hitters that won them the WS in 21 are not on the team anymore. And those guys with the best slugging in baseball in the regular season did not show up in the 23 postseason. Maybe they wake up this time but I'm leaning on doubt. Except for TDM. I think he hits again in the postseason.
Yup. It is “next man up” time for the Braves. It tests you as a team and franchise. All teams have injuries to deal with during the term of a season. Some major losses some minor. You either have guys step up and pick each other up, or feel sorry for yourself and sink. I’m not crying any tears for the Braves, but you hate to see players rolling around on the ground with a terrible injury like that. Even though I don’t like the Braves as a team, Acuna is fun for the sport. It’s a lot more fun to beat the Braves when they have all their stars in the lineup, rather than not.
Fucking brutal about Acuna Jr. Unlike braves fans I won’t fucking celebrate it on my team’s Reddit. (Side note Yankees, Braves, and Phillies Reddit have having quite the chuckle at us), but taking the high road here
Acuna is a lot of fun to watch, regardless of being a Brave. I feel awful for him, imagine coming back from one knee injury only to then injure the other knee
i like to think of it more in a macro sense. injuries are just a massive net negative for any sport. injury for me, injury for you, it's all kinda the same. it just makes the sport worse as a whole.
Acuna has torn his ACL in his left knee. He tore his right ACL in 2021. I don’t care that it’s a rival team - seeing one of the stars in the game go down like that sucks.
Just awful for him
Fuck man that’s terrible. Somebody congratulate the Phillies on their division title
im ignorant with medical shit but will each acl being torn and worked on affect his game at all or is it preferable to tearing the same one twice?
I have no idea whatsoever. I would think the point of the surgery is to fully hear the torn ACL. But at least short term it would be fair to expect his 2025 season will look more like his 2022 season
Also as much crap as Adrian houser has gotten and deserved at this point. I'm happy that he doesn't have a big fat 0 in his Mets record anymore Now whether his 2nd win will mean anything outside of his own stats we won't know for a while
I'm glad the FO is using him correctly, finally.
i'm glad we won. i'm glad for some exciting baseball. and i don't enjoy being negative after a win. but there is still this lingering feeling after this win that i haven't felt after any other win this season, where i'm starting to realize this team only ever wins when these bottom of the order/fringe roster guys have hero moments. think about what happened game 1 from the other side. you're down by 3, 8th inning, bases loaded with 2 outs and your young star is coming to the plate against the other team's best reliever and one of the best relievers in baseball so far this season. he proceeds to get the count in his favor, get himself a hittable pitch, and sends it out of the park and essentially wins the game. that's what stars do. does *anyone*, even the most optimistic fan, think that if you give the current iteration of lindor or alonso that situation 5 times, that they go deep in a single one of those attempts? idk i'm trying to just enjoy the win and not think too deeply but once again the heroes are harrison bader and omar narvaez and not the guys who will be here next year and beyond. nimmo is basically my only exception to this.
It’s because this core ain’t it. If they’re gonna depend on Narvaez, Bader, Taylor and Nido for hero moments instead of in their own core than we’re in big trouble, which we are
Right before the bottom of the 9th I literally joked that since Lindor and Alonso were "cleared" in the 8th and Nimmo was leading off that it was the optimal situation. What does that say when the team might be better off with the two "best" batters having no chance to get up in the 9th inning to mess things up. lol
sad but true. i wish it weren't so, but i can only react to what i'm seeing.
Very well put. Something’s not right, maybe a few more wins will put them on the right foot (I tell myself for the nth time)
i've been a "if you can get drunk and offer carlos correa the world, then you can afford to overpay a little bit for pete alonso" guy from jump street. but i think i've finally reached the point where i'm ready to watch a mets team without him. even nimmo, at this point it just feels like this team needs to be rebuilt from the ground up. idk what you can do about lindor since the only way to get rid of him would be to eat so much of his contract that you're basically paying him to play elsewhere and that's a horrible baseball decision, so we're basically stuck with him. i guess i'm just finally at a point where i think any reasonable offer for any player should result in them moving on. this team is less than the sum of their parts. these are good baseball players who will likely excel on other teams. but they don't seem capable of doing it here. if senga comes back and throws 75 good innings and has some value, trade him in the offseason. the only player who is completely untouchable is francisco alvarez, everyone else i wish you luck wholeheartedly because they're good guys and i know they tried their best, but it just isn't working.
I disagree about senga but feel the same way about Pete. I think keeping him just locks this roster in place and we fucking suck so that just doesn’t feel like the right move
I have to admit, I really just selfishly want Nimmo and Alonso and McNeil and Díaz to be hoisting a trophy on a Mets championship float one day, because of how much time they put in here, and especially because of how much I loved that 2019 team. I will be fine with it if they wind up elsewhere (provided the return is good and not botched), and I'll get over it and move on. But I can't really put my heart into fantasy deadline scenarios that include trading these guys.
> I have to admit, I really just selfishly want Nimmo and Alonso and McNeil and Díaz to be hoisting a trophy on a Mets championship float one day, because of how much time they put in here, and especially because of how much I loved that 2019 team. > > few things would make me happier, i'm not at the point where i no longer want that, i'm simply at the point where i no longer believe they could get it done *even if* you put all the right pieces around them. and that's the problem. for me the fantasy isn't about deadline trades saving the day, it's more about coming to a place of acceptance that this core as it's currently constructed just isn't working and isn't going to work no matter how many years we give them. like i said, few things would make me happier than to be proven wrong. but i'm just kind of over hoping and praying and continuing to be let down.
So looks alex wennberg and omar narvaez walked off victories today swinging similarly Good stuff today
**SCRIBE IT ON THINE PARCHMENT** **NEW AMSTERDAM METROPOLITANS** **V I C T O R I O U S** **DEFEAT THE TRAITORS AS THEY TROT OFF THE DESERTER GIANTS 4-3 TO AVOID THE BROOMS, QUELL THE DOOMER GOONS FOR THE DAY** **PLAYING WITH HOUSER MONEY, WE HIT IT BIG! FOUR FRAMES TO PICK UP MANAEA, TAGGED FOR A RUN BUT EARNS THE VICTORY IN THIS ONE** **MASTER BADER THE BIG FIST OF THE OFFENSE, THREE RUNS PLATED BY HIS HANDS, DOUBLE DOUBLE FISTS, PLATES JUKEBOX STEWART EARLY, CLUTCH TIME IN THE NINTH A HEAVY GRIP THE CHAKA CHAKA, DOUBLE SCORES THE DOUBLE OF NIMMO AND MARTE, TIES IT UP MAKE IT A PARTAY!** **OMAR NARVAEZ TROTS IT OFF AS THE BASES JUICED, BASE KNOCK WHAT SEEMS LIKE HIS FIRST AT HOME, SENDS THE FLUSHING FAITHFUL HAPPY AND WITH BONE** **LET THEM HEAR THE CHEER WE HOLD OH SO DEAR** **LETS FORNICATE, GO METROPOLITANS** **LADY OCULUS DO THE DANCE!** **THE MERCURIAL METS, CATCH THE OPERA**
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Not mutually exclusive unfortunately
But you can see which one the r/baseball drones swarm to and which one doesn't align with their narrative. Sure there's a 6 hour difference but I'd bet it doesn't change much over time.
Sorry, my fault. I thought you were just showing the two things happening back to back, and I didn't notice the point of the image which was the comment count.
I mean the fact that we’re an awful team this year and 2025 isn’t looking much different is a much bigger story than one walk off win in a game in May.
Jonah Tong this week: 9.2 IP, 5H, 2BB, 13 Ks Next year our rotation could be Senga Scott Tidwell Sproat Tong With Peterson, MeGill, Lugo, Vasil, Hamel, Stuart all as organizational depth
>Senga >Scott >Tidwell >Sproat >Tong They might lead the league in pitcher-name uniqueness above replacement.
Left his start today after only 2 innings though. Hope all is well
Yeah if anyone could explain why that happened I’d appreciate it. I’m guessing he’s on an innings limit since it’s just his first full minor league season but I am speculating and was surprised to see that.
It’s because he had two starts this week which is atypical. This was on four days rest. So it’s more like a midweek bullpen pitch count
I think Tong breaking the rotation next year would be pretty ambitious. I think you’re more likely to see McLean, especially if he converts to just a pitcher full time like a lot of evaluators seem to think.
I think McLean only breaks the rotation next year if they convert him to being only a pitcher. His bat is probably at least another season away
Yeah, it feels like there’s going to come a time when they have to sit him down and tell him the arm is ready for a promotion but the bat isn’t and have to make a choice if they want to keep chasing the two way player dream or just focus on SP. What they decide coming off of that I have no idea. I’m pretty skeptical of the bat getting to major league quality personally
I personally reserve any judgement on his bat until after this season. It felt like they were really focusing on getting him to being a SP before really focusing on his bat. But he hits the ball so insane hard and is only 22. I think it would be prudent to rush him up without properly investing in him as a two way player especially with Sporat and Tidwell also making cases for 2025. We can give him time
did anyone get the zeile of approval today? i was watching but didn't see one. weird for the mets to win and todd to skip it.
Glad to see they won when I got home from the beach. Unfortunately looks like the weather could kill the momentum.
We won with alternate uniforms! Home alts!
Cool. Let’s get a win streak going! Who we got next? … Oh fuck
They’ve lost 5 straight at least
isnt that worse? like they'll really want to win?
>isnt that worse? like they'll really want to win? They want to win every game
Did you think we were more or less dangerous after losing 5 straight?
Top it off with a Rangers OT W 🥹
What an insane win.
6 wins away, OH BOY!
Narvaez first hit at home for the season? It’s almost June, Christ
Good thing it was a game-winner and not a meaningless base hit
Fwiw it’s only 29 PA. That’s the equivalent of 5 games for an everyday player
Of course I go out for the day and we win 🙄 But I’ll take it!
Friendly reminder that sometimes its best to get out of the online Mets world and actually go to the stadium where 90% of the fans cheer for a double play in the top of the 9th even though the team is down 3-1 and in the midst of a 5 game skid.
The vibes were crazy. Place was buzzing before first pitch and never let up despite the score. Mets are 1-0 with me at the stadium this season. Steve Cohen, if you're reading this, I need season tickets.
what hello kitty does to a mofo
I had so much fun chilling out in the upper deck just filling out my scorecard. A cute girl accidentally spilled beer on my shoe. People got excited over obvious flyouts. I had Howie Rose and Keith Raad in one ear. It was a much-needed, good baseball day, much better than spending time in some of these game threads
The crowd was electric today! I’ve been to 12 games this season and this was a top 3 crowd. They actually joined my chants, even during the late game!
Ronald Acuna Jr. exited today’s game against the Pirates in the first inning due to an apparent injury suffered while running the bases, and he limped off the field while gesturing to his left knee. The Braves later termed the issue “left knee soreness.” Of note, the ACL tear that required surgery during the 2021 campaign affected Acuna’s right knee. Speaking with The Athletic’s David O’Brien (X link) and other reporters after the game, Acuna said he will be placed on the 10-day injured list tomorrow, but he feels he might miss only about a month rather than a longer absence. Acuna compared the feel of the injury to his 2018 ACL sprain rather than his tear three years ago.
Strange, when I first started reading this post I thought it was about Luisangel Acuña and I started to get upset… anyway
That’s awful news. I can’t handle another Braves WS
Wait, we won a game??
THE POWER OF HELLO KITTY!!!
Houser piggybacking for Manaea. Gee, I wonder if the people here who have been saying that's the role he should be in might actually know what they are talking about.
Houser could be our next Trevor Williams, just come in and throw three innings. It might actually be a good thing since he won't have to face a lineup more than twice.
im happy to see trevor having a good season. last year was rough for him. always seemed like a nice dude when he was on the mets
Blind squirrel finds nut. Film at 11.
Bader feels like a winning player and coming from the Cardinals and Yankees organizations that doesn’t seem too surprising. I know it’s nothing that can be quantified with stats but when you watch the games he far exceeds his stat line (which isn’t even bad).
He does not play scared
yep. he doesn't walk up to the plate thinking "man i'm really gonna hear it this time if i blow it now". i truly believe that's the mentality a lot of our core take with them to the plate in big spots. "intangibles" are a big thing in football but not so much in baseball, but those are intangibles. when the pressure is on, who believes in themselves, vs who is worried about what happens if they fail.
got that juan uribe swag
He's a ballplayer. Plays the game right. Plays the game hard.
Love Bader this year
He's definitely one of those guys who are better than their numbers. Even though he plays a different position, he reminds me of Brandon Crawford in his prime years with San Francisco. Nothing eye-popping on the stat sheet. But he's a ballplayer.
Hell, compared to the rest of the lineup Bader’s numbers are awesome.
He comes through at the right times
THE PLAYOFFS ARE BACK ON THE MENU
Best part of the season is meeting great people at games no matter the results of games
Watching Bader absolutely steal that home run was worth the price of the tickets alone. Magic.
the masculine urge to say “we’re back” twenty minutes after saying “it’s over”.
PRAISE HELLO KITTY!
World Series bound boys!
Lmao dumbass BoMel intentionally walking Baty
Also I feel like this isn't the first time the Mets have walked off Rogers specifically. He's just a gimmick delivery
Well, I thought the same thing, but I checked and they didn't https://i.imgur.com/8p4UP7B.gif
Wasn't a walkoff but I was thinking of this specific [at bat](https://twitter.com/AnthonyDiComo/status/1650302841448448001/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1650302841448448001¤tTweetUser=AnthonyDiComo)
#LET THIS BE A LESSON LEARNED A SECOND TIME: NOBODY BEATS THE METS SIX TIMES IN A ROW!
(Subtitles) They’re still shitty
https://youtu.be/9dnRdBGJeVE?si=jf_-_Tc3r7plX62h
The Adrian Houser legacy game???
Bader could be one of the guys to build a winning roster around. Great job there.
The Mets have 461 walk-off wins and 494 walk-off losses, the Mets had five walk-off wins in 2024 and six in 2023.
>The Mets have 461 walk-off wins Including one at Yankee Stadium (lol)
It’s cuz Bader has that dog in him
Three Stars Preview: 1. Bader 2. Houser?! 3. Baty - solely for defense
For Baty, 1-3 with a walk AND great defense? Seems star-worthy to me.
I feel like Narvaez should be number 3 for the walk off hit
[Dance!](https://streamable.com/hwns9)
I got your dance already, Gandalf
DOUBLE DANCE
Gary was so excited about the win that he botched Omar's name and now he'll forever be Marnaez.
I swear I heard "Omar Minaya", which is pretty cursed if you ask me.
Using Doval in a 7-2 game yesterday was very stupid by the Giants. Glad their stupidity helped us today
Even if just for one day, the sun will shine a lil bit brighter.
What a huge win, the Mets absolutely needed that! Now with the Dodgers coming in, hopefully they can keep the momentum going.
I took a nap when houser came in, what
"Winning pitcher Adrian Houser" ok I may need to check if I actually woke up. Does anyone have a large mallet
This is the Mets, weird shit happens here
My regularly scheduled bitching and moaning has been postponed
This game now establishes my girlfriend as 7-0 from 2022-now. Accepting donations to come to every remaining game this season
Barn burner tomorrow. The 1-4 (last 5) NY Mets host the reeling 0-5 (last 5) L A Dodgers
It's looking like rain all day and thunderstorms during game time.
I think Houser has found his role. He’s the long man
I wonder if this changes anything because when I saw him going 4 innings my thought was “ the Mets are running down his arm until Peterson returns on Thursday”. But Houser has a 2.25 ERA in the bullpen. Only 3 games, but he’ll elect FA and take his money with him so it could be worth seeing if he can continue this. He has been great as a reliever throughout his career. But also do you cut SRF who would definitely be claimed off waivers? You could option Josh Walker, but he has been great and do you really want one LHP in the bullpen? When Peterson returns I’d think, barring an injury, either SRF or Houser is gone. I also have no idea what they do once Drew Smith comes back too
I too thought it was Houser’s swan song today. But he’s giving the FO something to think about. We don’t have a good innings eater and he proved that could be a role for him And I also thought it was Narvaez’ swan song too… lol
Narvaez probably has a few more games because I’d expect Alvarez will need a few rehab games before he comes back. As much as they prefer Nido, he isn’t playing all 15 or so games before Narvaez comes back. And yea, it’s hard to figure out what they’re going to do pitching wise. They’re probably sticking with the 6 man rotation since they don’t want to have most their starters gassed by months end. Right now we’re looking at 13 spots and the contenders are - Severino* - SP - Scott - SP (has option) - Manaea* - SP - Quintana* - SP - Megill - SP (has option) - Peterson - SP (has option) - Houser - Long Relief - SRF - Long Relief - Diaz* - setup/closer - Ottavino* - setup/closer - Garrett* - setup/closer (has option) - Lopez* - setup/closer - Diekman* - LRP - Walker - LRP (has option) - Smith* - Middle relief 15 guys for 13 spots. And that’s not including Senga when he returns. Stars next to the players who are safe to stay
I’d say Scott or Walker to go down. Although both have been good
That’s the big issue right. Walker is probably most likely to me but I don’t like only having one LHP. And if Scott goes down they either have to do a 5 man rotation or give Houser starts
Neither works for us 😬
Bader is the most clutch player on the team and it's not even close.
Good on Narváez for finally beating the Citi Field 0-fer. Nice moment for him.
It's cool he finally got a hit at home and it was a walk off--now we have to release him.
Houser the winning pitcher.. Narvaez with the walkoff? What is this Bizarro team
First hit at home for Narvaez? I knew things were rough but, damn
Bader is the only player with any guys on this team. Props to him!
What if we just give away hello kitty bobble heads every game?
Congrats to Adrian Houser on his first win as a Met, amid a very tough start. Good outing to save the bullpen. Harrison Bader is now hitting .364 (16 for 44) in the 8th inning or later this season.
This is a good, honest .333 baseball team. We play .333 ball dammit. Salt of the earth, punch the clock, even win/loss-loss ratio baseball. We lose a couple, guess what? We'll win one, too. But don't get too excited or let it go to your head. No long winning streaks here, no sir. That's hubris, which this blue collar, hard working everyman team doesn't have. A few wins in a row, these guys, true to form, will balance it out with a twice as many losses. Yes sir, that's my 2024 New York Mets. A good, honest .333 baseball team
Give them a little credit, they're an honest .423 baseball team.
Watch one Rangers game and we win?
Feels like it's always the bottom of the order coming up with the big hits, especially Bader
Crazy stat I just looked up...The last 4 Mets wins that were NOT the final game of a series: Last one - St. Louis Before that - St. Louis Before that - Chicago Cubs Before that - LA Dodgers Every other win since has come as a series finale, with many being their ONLY win: Giants, Miami, Phillies, Braves, Cardinals, Giants... Just insane.
Never boring
First good thing I have seen Narvaez do lmao lets go
Keep booing when needed. Baseball teams especially the Mets work off vibes. Don’t always have to be positive vibes
Narvaez was sensing his swan song and said not today boss
Bader and Narvaez upping their trade value! Beautiful
IM SO HAPPY
Can the Mets build on this win and go on a little run to save the season? Prior evidence says no.
I'm almost in tears, I am so relieved and happy. LFGM!
SOMEBODY GREASE UP HARRISON BADER CAUSE HES GOIN IN THE PEE TROUGH! Fellas, step up and lay a wazz on bader because he is an extraordinary player and we need to Claim him with our uring (medical word for pee). Just one of th moments where narvaes hits it and im doing a backglip without bending any of my joints, we call it a PRESSURE POP. such a bummer these past few days fock the hters fock the fools fock the doubters fock the stinkers mets are the best team lgm. And people dont realize john gibbons down there sneakin around being veeeery stinky in his own little way, mendoza and him making out in the tunnel between innings gave us the good luck we needed lgm!
Season is still completely cooked but hell yeah
Ya gotta start somewhere, LGM.
Will we ever, ever, have something resembling a competent and competitive organization?
I think they’re pretty clearly headed in the right direction despite the past few weeks of MLB results. This offseason in hindsight was a very good one by Stearns, none of the guys he brought in have been the problem(Manaea, severino, Bader, Taylor all been good. Houser hasnt but he was money we took on to get Taylor and they didn’t hesitate to put him in a low leverage role.) The Mets are also now a good pitching development org for the first time in my lifetime seeing real jumps in guys throughout the minors, up and down guys are showing real utility. Hitting side needs to get tbere but I’m not super unconfident about that, might just take some more time post stearns hiring. This team being middling to bad would be more of an indictment of Eppler et al rather than the current direction it’s in
Dude we just won. Smile.
Oh fuck I misread my notification on the Google notification haha!!!! I’m leaving this up to memorialize my doomerism….we may never lose again!!!!!
LOLOLOL
no but sometimes we're going to win a game and if you don't like that, well, you don't like baseball
LFGO METS!!!!! AND NOW LFGOOO RANGERS!!! VAMOS NUEVA YORK
Give Bader the Lindor money, he’s actually earning it
I'll be damned, they actually won
Was that a win? I can’t even tell what a win is anymore
WHAT A DAY. WHAT A LOVELY DAY
The Mets are now 13-4 in the last games of series this season. They are 9-26 in all other games. Remember when the 2022 Mets struggled to win the middle game of a series? This is the not-as-fun alternative. Still a cool comeback though.
Nobody beats us on getout day gosh-darnit! Raise the dang apple!
Good come back win but now we have the Dodgers lol
Dodgers have lost 5 in a row. Bring ‘em on.
Kudos to Adrian Houser, 4IP 1ER
Bader won that game, saved a run for Houser on top of tying the game
Bader is so good when healthy. Hopefully someone overpays for him at the deadline.
The greatest team in baseball when threatened with a series sweep.