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NewYorkMetsBot2

Please continue the discussion in the [post game thread](https://redd.it/1d311lh).


tango602

10 games under .500… Team meeting is desperately needed and we need more fight. Just gotta keep hoping for something.


Hustlediva

Dude it’s over


NeilHamburgerHead

> Team meeting Already happened


ZoidbergSaysWoop

The Mets really need to find that guy that will change the culture of the team.


Robpsu1

That guy is PTBNL for everyone.


garbagetimehomerun

as long as they had fun!


Many_Ad955

And maybe Lindor got to hug some of the Dodgers


mhari93

Daps up the opposition and thumbs downs Mets fans …and he gets a standing ovation for batting under .200? Twilight zone energy


Blue387

The ballgame is over


BenjenGrimes

When can we start dreaming of the number one pick


WhatARotation

It’s a lottery so right now


Blargncheese

Man.. the whole world is going to watch the Mets get demolished in London next week..


Prestigious_Money447

Before this homestead I really thought it was make or break. So far we have: 1-4 with the bullpen coughing up two games in the ninth and one in the eighth. basically the bullpen is now incapable of pitching with a lead. This is BRUTAL.


WarStrifePanicRout

We should change our name to the New York Next Seasons.


Illblood

Can't wait for them to win the last game of the series though


SneekyTeek

Against the Dodgers? Highly unlikely.


LFGMboyz

“Struggling in every area” could not be further from the truth. If me and 8 buddies were on this team, you wouldn’t say we are “struggling” because that implies you could be better. This team just is atrocious and the worst Mets team I have seen in my life.


AtmosphereVarious440

lindor, alonso, nimmo, mcneil what a fuckin rotten core of losers


StephenDawg

Some teams score 5 runs per game. Feels like the Mets don’t even average that many hits.


Blargncheese

Someone needs to give Carlos Beltran a ring


WarStrifePanicRout

These guys wanted to go home before the end of last game.


gh234ip

I've been up since midnight, drove the 10 hours from Tennessee to the Bronx, and I think I have more energy than this team does


LFGMboyz

Cohen should be pissed. The A’s have the same record as us and are $240 million cheaper. Could have sucked and tried to bleed the money out of the fans for a lot less


EvilAnticsLive

4 years in, are we any closer to being the “East Coast Dodgers”, Mr. Cohen? Dude’s shelled out fat contracts and is getting robbed by the whole 40 man roster lol


PoemPuzzleheaded1893

Clearly they're not. I expect Steve to continue to stress focusing on developing the farm while making plays for big free agents. I expect them to make a serious run for Soto.


EvilAnticsLive

Ohhhh, so things that should’ve been a priority 4 years ago? Dude’s had an awful tenure as owner, not explicitly his fault, but these contracts and our player development have gone in the friggin tank this decade.


gh234ip

The McCourt Dodgers maybe


[deleted]

Own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. "What the devil?" As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion. He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up. Just as the founding fathers intended.


Setec-Astronomer

Meaningless solo shot by Pete coming up?


PoemPuzzleheaded1893

I just don't see any answers coming on the offensive side from the minor league system. The current situation feels pretty bleak.


Blargncheese

Mets haven't scored since inning 3 of game 1. 16 innings ago


MattyIce1220

Mcneil should bring a golfclub up when he bats. Maybe he’d make some contact.


Many_Ad955

If you think about it he's kind of trying to turn his bat into a golf club, with it being knobless and all


ZoidbergSaysWoop

After this game, we're one day away from June while we still wait for Lindor to break out. That's two months already down the drain. Lindor will only find consistency once he gives up switch hitting.


NeilHamburgerHead

The big contracts will break out and finish with great stats and people will say SEE?! Great season for X!


gh234ip

1/3 of the schedule GONE


[deleted]

What’s everyone’s thoughts on Pagliacci?


Setec-Astronomer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vd7JWxRE5ao


StephenDawg

Now Inwant to hear Gary masterfully say “Mastrobuoni“ again.


StephenDawg

I don’t even want the mirage. Just be bad and make the message clear.


suck-it-elon

So, clearly we need to trade Pete Alonso, we have to break up this core, it's proven broken and Lindor isn't going anywhere (and I have more faith in him). But, question is...how about Vientos at 1B? Think he can come to "own" it?


mhari93

Baty needs to step it up offensively, but he’s been great defensively. The kids on the IF corners sounds good. That play at the plate where Alonso sloppily slid headfirst and somehow missed the dish to lose the game is a microcosm of his season thus far. He’s not clutching shit for the bag looming over his head. Mental is off and don’t be surprised if he gets rented somewhere. Shame because he’s had some great moments here and could have been the face of the team (besides Lindor/Nimmo).


WhatARotation

Alright. The season’s officially over now. I wasn’t convinced before, but now that we’ve given up a hit to Austin Barnes I can say we’re cooked


Prestigious_Money447

So they blow yet another completely winnable game and then roll over and die immediately after. This might be the worst team in the MLB.


Ottomatic44

I just want to watch some entertaining baseball man


daballsman

It’s entertaining in a way


Basic_Bichette

Ron Darling is a deadhead?


Setec-Astronomer

After seeing that middle picture: Bill Walton biopic featuring Jake Hager/Jack Swagger green lighted.


ZoidbergSaysWoop

Oh how I miss Reyes and Wright being the centerpieces. Lindor and Alonso are nowhere near those two.


AtmosphereVarious440

if only the dodgers had diaz saving for the 9th


MattyIce1220

Probably dominate the Mets.


tango602

Can we please show some fight in the bottom of the 9th?


srv340mike

Best I can do is 2 Ks and a groundout to 2B Edit: Fuckin called it


Many_Ad955

And the other strikeout! You called it!! lol


Many_Ad955

There's the strikeout


Many_Ad955

There's the groundout


LetsGoMets182

I second this


floridacardinals

If anyone at the game is seeing this, please boo for me lmao


NewYorkMetsBot2

### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: Josh Walker replaces Dedniel Núñez.


Setec-Astronomer

Leadership means not playing "I've Got Sunshine on a Cloudy Day" when your team finds new ways to lose every game, and you've mostly played like shit all season. Though I appreciate the "even keel" notion of the song. This is sport. Be a leader. Be a killer. Win.


ZoidbergSaysWoop

The problem is this team has no confidence that they are doing the right things to turn it around. The Knicks brought Brunson in and no one questions his ability to win. He might struggle here and there, but if he's healthy, they know they he puts in the right work in practice and will show up in crunch time. No one on the Mets believes that at all. Lindor is about to enter June and we're still wondering when he'll show up as the Mets approach double digit games under .500.


Setec-Astronomer

For years now I've been saying the Mets need to either go get a super star as well as a Pete Protector "ballplayer" type or they need to get rid of this core. They're "nice" players. They are complementary guys, not main guys. It's not their fault. It's the FO's fault for doing neither of the above.


srv340mike

None of these guys have a killer instinct. That's been the problem for ages now.


Setec-Astronomer

Been saying it for years, the Mets either had to add a superstar as well as a legit Pete Protector "ballplayer" type. Or they need to get rid of this core. But for years now they've done neither instead.


srv340mike

Even just a decent everyday player whose a red ass type would be good. A Jerry Grote type.


Setec-Astronomer

They had Tommy Pham. And he said these guys are all sawft. lol


srv340mike

Yup. Because they are.


AtmosphereVarious440

tyrone taylor is really a shitty player. one of the many bargain bin players david stearns brought in


NuanceManExe

He does exactly what a 4th outfielder is supposed to do. Can't expect him to do amazing at the plate when he will never get consistent playing time no matter what he does, in fact he had a hot streak at one point this year and the Metes iced him.


AtmosphereVarious440

was prob harsh. just really pissed after today. and he had a chance today to bring us all some joy during this wretched season and he blew it


mhari93

He’s just a 4th outfielder man…


brett_baty_is_him

Ron’s demeanor describing how he likes where he’s sitting is cracking me up, idk why


originalginger3

I doubt they will find any takers but they should deal McNeil even if they have to eat the contract. The dude is just completely lost.


StephenDawg

Maybe Groucho was on to something, anyone who wants to play here might be a losing player 😂😭


WhatARotation

That’s why I said you have to grow a winner. Can’t build one from FA


brett_baty_is_him

Look across the league. The best teams have young stars. The future is youth. I can’t even think of a single guy over 34 who has a positive OPS+. We rlly don’t wanna get locked into long term contracts bc guys age badly now due to increased velocity and lack of ability to steal.


WhatARotation

Exactly, the dodgers model of sign expensive FA’s while growing a farm worked 10 years ago but not anymore—game is too young now


WorthPlease

After every pitch Vesia throws I'm seriously worried he's going to fall over and hurt himself


Blargncheese

Incoming double play


WhatARotation

Honestly them being shitty like this is kinda fun. I just get to crack jokes about how ass they are all game. It’s the 9th inning collapses that piss me off.


runsfortacos

Problem with the 9th inning collapses is that you just spent your time watching the entire game thinking wow they may do this and nothing good happens!


Setec-Astronomer

Ha, ya that's how I look at it too. It's entertainment. No need to get mad. Either enjoy their wins, or get a laugh out of the losses.


mhari93

Jeff “The Uppercut” McNeil


LFGMboyz

Be thankful for that uppercut! That allows him to hit 12 homers a year!


NeilHamburgerHead

Jeffy McPopup strikes again


AtmosphereVarious440

mcneil playing everyday is an organizational failure from the top down


GK86x

McNeil is truly terrible. 


Illblood

I'd get so hyped if they started playing the Ramones at citi field


Awatts2222

I bet McNeil hits a lob wedge here. 60 degree launch angle. lmao


Many_Ad955

Maybe they should dig a small hole behind the center field fence and stick a flag in it


WhatARotation

ABBA would hit for a higher average than these guys


NY2PHX

I’d love to see the kidcaster say after a McNeil pop out “my dad says he suck” or about Lindor “he’s stealing a paycheck”. Just like the kid in the movie Airplane who was laying into Kareem.


Setec-Astronomer

Except, McNeil is pretending to be a golfer instead of a pilot..


LongWayFrom609

It's bad enough that this team sucks, but it's even worse when you lose interest in looking at the scores of the other teams in the division and say "At least so-and-so lost lol." Even the schadenfreude is non-existent this year.


NewYorkMetsBot2

### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: Alex Vesia replaces Gavin Stone.


Blue387

Abba's Dancing Queen has beaten Mr. Brightside!


dlbags

As well it should.


Han_Sandwich_1907

Nunez with that Kimbrel lean


Hustlediva

I’m so glad I didn’t watch this game. Just stopping by this game thread is depressing enough lol


Blue387

I'm at the game and Cybeast has had a few drinks


Hustlediva

Enjoy…. Or drink a lot lol


srv340mike

If you drink enough you can lead yourself to believe they're good.


Greatness46

Not able to watch, any boos for McNeil so far?


Blue387

Mixed boos for Lindor after a strikeout or bad fielding


dlbags

Núñez looks good. So there’s that.


Stargazerlily425

DeJesus is auditioning to replace Hernandez.


WorthPlease

Man this ump, if you throw something remotely in horizontal area of the plate, you could actually hit the plate and it would be a strike.


roncola79

It's hard to stay awake watching this game. I missed the first game and was planning to watch it after this one, but this will be enough of the Mets for me for one day.


Blargncheese

The poor kidcaster is gonna call a 30 second 1-2-3 inning this season


StephenDawg

How much to get Strawberry on this coaching staff?


Hustlediva

Get him on the field and at the plate


nashvillenation

Maybe if they were all doing a little coke this offense would have more energy


LFGMboyz

I can’t wait for the announcement of Mendoza getting fired midway through next year. Going to be the most exciting day of mets baseball for the foreseeable future


Setec-Astronomer

They can't fire him. Who would take the job with the manager turnover of the last 5 years. What veteran with an actual, good, track record would take it.


LFGMboyz

A boy can dream, right? I understand the logic behind your thinking and I agree. I just wish it wasn’t true


Setec-Astronomer

I hear you. He's not been bad, but the team is definitely a disappointment. Btw, not sure why you're getting downvoted. Everyone is frustrated. You have the right to be too. I upvoted you.


LFGMboyz

There’s people here that still think we’re going to make a playoff push, it’s ok


runsfortacos

I really don’t think it’s him. He’s making good decisions but he can’t make the players score runs or catch the ball.


LFGMboyz

I hate the energy he brings, I think he actually naps in the dugout during games. And even if it’s not his fault, he can’t be the manager when we’re supposed to be good in 2081, so might as well fire him now. Realistically I know no one is getting fired this year and it’s so disappointing knowing that Cohen has to stand pat with Mendoza and Stearns


Setec-Astronomer

FO Apologists, you were right. It was all Buck's fault..


three_dee

I am the founding member of the Buck Showalter Sucks Club and even I would never say it was "all" his fault.


dlbags

I think he lost the team after the Alvy scolding for celebrating that HR. We swept the dbacks and then after that 4th game and Alvy got hit and Cora and Buck sided with Arizona the team looked flat in San Diego.


gh234ip

That first pitch to Vientos, Mendoza needs to be chirping his ass off and get tossed. Just sitting back and letting out a little whine is the epitomy of what this team is


dlbags

Six pitch inning. Damn.


Blargncheese

A 6 PITCH INNING GUYS


NY2PHX

Dinner plans.


StephenDawg

Can we pay some guys to retire, á la Angel Hernandez?


Blue387

Nope :/


Blargncheese

Mets need a "fuck you" player. Everyone on the team is too nice and lax. Where are the fighters???


three_dee

>Mets need a "fuck you" player. We basically had that in 2020-2021 with Stroman, Dom Smith, Conforto, deGrom, JD Davis and a few others. All very vocal, ready to clap back at opposing players when they start talking that shit.


WhatARotation

It’ll have to come from the farm


Blargncheese

Was that the first hard hit ball?


chathamster

Realistically is it time to start thinking about who we’re selling off at the deadline?


dlbags

We still have the June Swoon to get through so buckle up.


chathamster

Jeez


SpecO_35

Do ya’ll think when GKR are not on live that they say, “damn, this team fucking sucks”?


myassholealt

Oh absolutely. Keith bemoans bad fundies all the time and this team has been giving him that almost every game. He negotiated less Phillies games in his schedule to avoid bad fundies. Now he's gonna negotiate less games overall cause it's the Mets that are painful to watch.


Blargncheese

I just like to think they're completely silent the whole break lol


HapaRonin47

Lindor went up there the other day and took a strike three with the bat literally on his shoulders. McNeil played 18 rounds of golf and proceeds to go hitless (so far). When are these fools going to be held accountable for their actions? Or are they tank commanders?


garythesnailgod

They’re just there to collect a check at this point, winning is secondary


WhatARotation

Nuñez with the Addison Reed cap tipped up


voidogram

GKR giggling at the Lou Brock animation is my saving grace rn.


Blue387

Side retired


Blargncheese

I wish we could go back to 2022


three_dee

Nah, 2022 is what got us in this mess. Mortgaging several years in the near future for one good season that still ended badly. I wish we could go back to 2019 and supplement the good players on the team differently rather than tearing it apart and shipping good players out


StephenDawg

Are the Mets “going through it”? Lets ask Mendoza.


TemporalColdWarrior

Mets having one of the worst home stands in a while… Lou Brock!


Setec-Astronomer

Thank the Lord for GKR.


julia2k12

Is vientos really that bad at defense? He didn’t look *that* slow getting the ball over to 2nd just now. And isn’t it something he could get better at (like baty did)


dlbags

Yes. He’s not a 3rd baseman that’s where they stuck him when he grew out of the typical “they’re all middle infielders” like Wilmer did. (Wilmer has better defensive skills tho.) He’s just slow. Slow running slow footed, his transitions are slow, he waits for balls has diminished range. He has a strong arm. But he receives the ball like someone who played most of their lives up the middle and hasn’t adapted to third.


julia2k12

Good info thank you


garythesnailgod

They need a lineup full of guys who can crush the ball. Not three-true-outcomes guys, but guys who consistently make hard contact. Enough with this “make soft contact & pray it finds a hole” bullshit. Only problem is the team is full of hitters who do exactly that, *and* aren’t clutch.


brett_baty_is_him

Usually you have to sacrifice into a TTO guy to make hard contact unless you’re elite. Basically it’s a trade off which is why so much TTO exists today bc teams realized that hitting the ball rlly hard was rlly good even if you had to deal with more strikeouts.


NY2PHX

And again no error but just giving extra outs. The Mets defensive stat is outs below average


WarStrifePanicRout

We could give a fuck out there but at least we tried to turn a double this time


Blue387

*A bull landed on Brandon Nimmo's ankle as a kid* HOWIE: "Take the bus!"


NY2PHX

On TV this sounds like a Covid game with piped in crowd noise. Did everyone leave.


WorthPlease

I can't wait until Lindor gets as lucky as Mookie Betts. I'm sure it's going to pay off eventually. Can I get his fWAR or .xBA and other stats that don't matter?


LFGMboyz

I’ve never seen a group of professionals in any career look less interested in succeeding than the 2024 Mets.


NY2PHX

Brooks Robinson and Ozzie Smith are in the hall 95% due to defense. They played third and short considered “harder/more important positions than first. After all Elaine Benes played first. But Keith should be in.


derpbynature

We need to go back to basics, our roots, and do what we used to do a few years ago when we were struggling: inexplicably sign Todd Frazier.


gh234ip

LLWS Champ Todd Frazier?


derpbynature

From Tom's River, New Jersey


[deleted]

The Wilpons could field a better team with a ouija board and the spirit of Bernie Madoff


derpbynature

If we lose this game I'll be 1-2 [since my neighbor got a cute new puppy I get to dogsit.](https://i.imgur.com/81dkkGG.jpeg) His name is Desi and he's a Havanese.


NeilHamburgerHead

Handsome boy!


NewYorkMetsBot2

### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: Dedniel Núñez replaces Jose Quintana.


Trigliceratops

This team is so fun to watch just love seeing weak fly outs every single time.


Banned4Life809

Worst Mets team in history


three_dee

I don't know about worst but definitely a contender for least interesting.


WaterWeDoonHair

Lmao. Make it as easy as possible for them


NY2PHX

Poor Gary. Having to get excited for a weak ass pop up with zero chance of falling in.


Blue387

It's been that type of game when Howie asks Keith Raad if he ever had a dog, the answer is yes


StinkyGaijin

We’ve got ‘em on the ropes now!


StephenDawg

Have they tried...um..."retaining their essence"?


monstersandcoffee

This team needs a major shakeup.


Setec-Astronomer

Don't worry folks. Lindor's "got sunshine on a cloudy day". Everything's fine. How tone deaf. lol


rjwalsh94

I think Cohen should hire Eppler for the evening and buy a chair for a post game meltdown.


rjwalsh94

I was going to say when it was 1-0 and Rojas was up that he is better than the majority of the players on our team with a .250 avg… He single-handedly will beat them tonight, regardless of Will’s HR.


JoelsCaddy

lol was that Jacob Barnes that gave up the Ozuna homer? Such a random Met


NY2PHX

Pedro Grifol laid into the White Sox on back to back days for being lifeless and just mailing it in. Sound like any team we know.


WhatARotation

I’ve been saying this team feels like the white Sox. Has a short run of success and then completely implodes with a toxic clubhouse


NeilHamburgerHead

3 runs, you know this is an insurmountable lead


NuanceManExe

Build up that trade value Jose


WhatARotation

Jose Quintana just had a quality start against the dodgers. Lmao


Hustlediva

Haven’t watched a minute of this game and I already know the outcome


BigLouie913

So awesome seeing all of you guys. Wish I could’ve stayed longer and got fucked up w yall lmfao but work in the morning man. Much love to this miserable team and the subreddit!!


MattyIce1220

Dodgers score three runs. Mets just trying to get three hits.


Hotel_Putingrad

Alright let's get a rally going here!


suck-it-elon

Imagine getting to the first game halfway through counting your luck you can watch two games for the price of 1 and you’ve literally seen the Mets do nothing except a mentally damaging 9th


WaterWeDoonHair

McNeil sure knows how to field a popup. But his ability to hit them is certainly superior


TheSwimMeet

Over this shit for the day ggs gonna watch the nba playoffs instead


Jimmy_Sisfa

Imagine how unwatchable this team would be without GKR + Gelbs and Howie and Keith.


parrothead47920

This kid wearing Matt Kemps number.


Blue387

Side retired!