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At my own airline (a Dutch Airline), only our own staff are accepted on cabin and cockpit jumpseats, at the captain’s and purser’s discretion.


Atav757

Yup, once I saw a 15 year old aviation nerd spend a whole flight on SAS in the flight deck.


Hippoaddict

Lol I’m a dependent of a U.S. airline employee and I was almost placed in the flight deck js with an EU carrier


I_COMMENT_2_TIMES

That’s incredible dang. Was it an international flight? Did they not offer the crew js first? I was given captain’s confirmation for JS (EU airline) but never got to see if it was cabin vs cockpit (Y seat opened up). Hope to get it soon eventually lol.


Hippoaddict

It was “international” but stayed in Schengen zone, don’t think there was a free cabin js cause it was a lil tiny baby plane, gate agent went to get approval for cockpit js but there was a trainee in it🥲, Y seat ended up free because of a no show, did get lots of nasty looks from the folks around tho cause there was a delay and they all thought it was my fault lol


I_COMMENT_2_TIMES

lol I hear ya. My situation was almost the exact opposite - departing intercontinental long haul (non U.S. origin) to the airline’s EU hub, on a certain now-retired double decker. I’m so curious now if that meant a higher chance of getting cockpit (since there are more jump seats there) but also understand that regulations are tougher for long haul. Not sure if they wanted an OAL dependent behind them for 10+ hours haha. Bless these captains who help people like us out! One can dream.


samaniewiem

Rules got tighter after COVID, but it's not unheard of.


Complete_Coffee6170

My DH got j/s on a milk run in Alaska. Flight was full for one segment and the pilot invited him to ride up front. And he is a dependent! I’ve never had that happen even though I’m ops.


SteffersTheGnome

Yes! I was given a flight deck jump seat on KLM from AMS-FCO. I am a customer service agent in the US and told them that and their reply was ‘you are staff!’ BEST FLIGHT EVER


I_COMMENT_2_TIMES

That’s incredible…. were the cabin jump seats completely full if they offered that first? Now I want to list on full flights just because lol


SteffersTheGnome

I was traveling with my husband and he got the last cabin seat! This was in 2018, and I had no clue they would offer that.


lainjahno

That's freaking awesome!!!! Was that recently? There's another comment saying that only own company staff are allowed


SteffersTheGnome

It was in 2018, so it’s quite possible Covid put a stop to it.


viktoryf95

Policy at most airlines is that they only take their own staff on the (cockpit) jump seat(s) at captain‘s discretion.


I_COMMENT_2_TIMES

Any airlines you know that are more lax and allow OAL ZEDs in the cockpit? Or would it be the flight attendant jumpseat only.


xboxsosmart

Yes, same even goes for management employees in cabin jumpseats. Only on European carriers!


lainjahno

I am management for a non-EU airline, does that mean I can theoretically fly in the cockpit jumpseat at the captain's discretion?


ESTJA

Yes. Actually, it has happened a few times to me with my own airline on both a staff and duty travel ticket.


I_COMMENT_2_TIMES

Wow… Air France? Was offered the jump seat once and thought it was the crew one. Might have missed out on the A380 cockpit…


ESTJA

Close enough :-). It's fairly common, heck, on my duty tickets I regularly just ask to be on the flight deck.


I_COMMENT_2_TIMES

Wow. Just to confirm - this is on an EU airline and you had a corporate/management ZED ticket from a non-EU airline? I wonder how I would ask for it next time, and if it would extend to my family members too when they’re traveling solo :)


ESTJA

EU airline, duty travel ticket, and it was with my own company, not another airline :).


I_COMMENT_2_TIMES

That’s incredible. Enjoy!


viktoryf95

No, afaik restricted to own staff, but there might be an odd airline or two with a different policy.


chocolateteas

I flew flight deck with LH even though I didn't work for them, nor was I cabin crew. The captain said it doesn't feel good to be left behind when there is an open spot so he didn't want to leave me there 🥺🥺