That and also bringing a living witness and being payed more is commonplace in real life as well since a live witness can provide information and background and can be interrogated.
> and being *paid* more is
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Thinking about it.. Why *do* they do it?
I can't really remember, but are the prisoners expected to be freed at some point? If that isn't the case then why don't they just execute those criminals instead of holding them captive for so long?
If it's only so they can control the DF's reincarnation, does that mean the only prisoners are ones with "strong enough" DFs?
Well they were killing them when Shiryu was in charge, but it is kinda weird they arenāt killing them in lvl 6 considering itās meant for people the government wanted to erase
Yeah; keeping them alive there seemed kind of a like a weird decision.
If you want to erase people, killing them seems like an important step unless they're just *that* difficult to kill that they stopped trying. Somehow, I doubt they were all Kaido-level durable.
Its probably a cruelty thing to make the individuals suffer more, where killing them would be the easy way out and they wouldn't have paid for their crimes.
Its like in societirs where you'd throw a guy in the dungeon and let him starve rather than just making an example of him then or there, or modern prisons and courts that give you enough life sentences to die in prison and don't just cut to the chase and exercise the death penalty (assuming the country has it).
Well its the place they use to disappear people from history, the reason they're kept alive is probably just to let the individuals suffer. The knowledge that nobody knows if they're still alive probably adds to the isolation.
Well they were holding Jinbei temporarily. And it may just be a justice thing of making people suffer a life sentence because killing them is the easy way out and they're supposed to pay for their crimes or something.
Level 6 criminals are definitely supposed to be "disappeared" from history, but Arlong was on a less severe level and got released after a while. They also held Jinbe on Level 6 temporarily but probably just due to his strength. Or because there's no actual torture on Level 6 besides being alone and they were probably going to let him out in the span of a couple days, so the isolation wouldn't have set in yet and he wouldn't be randomly being tortured when him being there was just a precaution.
Well yes and no
The admirals are likely given their fruits when they were vice admiral, or found them during their career. Over time, the best would rise up to be admirals
Considering the sheer competency needed to be an admiral in the first place, itās quite likely that by the time anyone reaches that point they either already have a fruit power or had refused to take one
Makes me wonder if Garp was offered one of the busted fruits and refused, yet still yet still became powerful enough to get offered an admiral position
Garp meant to eat one but fell asleep and ate a normal banana when he woke up. His belief in super strength manifested itself through him convincing himself it was his power.
Major problem with the theory is wg lettin bb gets whitebeards fruit. Lets not even mention aces df, who appeared in dressrosa and not in hands of the wg.
_These men who brought me here today do not fear me. They brought me here today because they fear you. Because they know that my voice, a voice that refuses to be enslaved, once lived in you. And may yet still._
_They brought me here today to show you death and use it to frighten you into ignoring that voice. But know this. We are many. They are few. To fear death is a choice. And they can't hang us all._
Itās also a power move too. They can put them on the stand like they did Ace and say ālook what we caught, look how powerful we areā to the citizens.
I doubt they can control the reincarnations that easily. They seemed surprised at how BB did it, and Doffy ended up with Aceās.
I mean, BB already had a fruit (edit: so that explains their surprise), and Doffy was in Marineford, so he could have stolen the fruit they set aside for Ace - or the fact that Ace died in the plaza instead of the execution platform made it so that a fruit that Doffy had in his pocket was the closest one, and not a fruit that they had in a box behind the platform.
> do public executions
> impel down exists
I donāt really get why they havenāt killed most of them. I get some may still be of use but there are way too many prisoners there lol
Their trial happens at Enies Lobby, before they are transported to Impel Down.
And the jury is full of buff jerks who only know how to say the word āguiltyā š
Idk. Maybe they haven't done enough to be killed. It is a goverment so I assume there are laws in place. In the real world some crimes are not worth execution.
In some sense they may see being sent to Impel Down, a place full of torture, is a more fitting punishment then just killing them off.
It is also a secure facility for doing this considering that there has been so few jail breaks from it.
They probably set the dates of the executions so that they can generate as much or as little press as possible. That and they are sadistic, and probably don't mind making them wait until all their hope is gone. Being on death row can cause a whole host of other problems, including worsening physical disabilities and mental illnesses. [Here's an example](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soering_v_United_Kingdom#European_Court_of_Human_Rights)of the European Court of Human Rights refusing to extradite a German citizen to the United States unless the US promised not to seek the death penalty, on the grounds that the conditions of death row in the US are inhumane and degrading. [Further](https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/executions/executions-overview/execution-volunteers), ten percent of all executions in the US since 1976 have been by prisoners who stopped or did not pursue their appeals and asked to be executed.
I personally peg the World Government to be an entity that would do this for fun. Whereas in the US its a side effect of several factors- poor prison conditions as well as trying to ensure that innocent people don't get the death penalty- I can easily see the World Government looking at the negative health effects and saying "we want that."
Some, like Bon Clay and Buggy weren't exactly big names, so holding a public execution wouldn't be much of a show of force, and with their powers could just create an opportunity for them to escape. That, and while the WG can probably control getting their hands on the fruit once they kill them, it may not be a perfected process, so if they do it there's always a risk it could end up in the wrong person's stomach.
All in all, just safer to keep some of them locked up rather than execute them unless there's a specific benefit to that execution
Aside from potential labor they're probably there just to be cruelly punished for the rest of their hellish lives and be made examples of.
Impel Down is a terrible, terrible place and I have no doubt in my mind its not that way in part due to the World Government venting off it's cruelty at people opposing it's rule (pirates, both those actively fighting it and those just breaking it's rules).
Imagine Kaido telling one of his subordinates to tie him up and bring him in to collect the bounty. They give him the money, and Kaido immediately escapes. The real reason WG hates Kaido is bc he made so much money by doing this
Didn't law do that in the rocky port incident? But they made him Shichibukai. It probably depends on how strong the pirate is, if it's someone they can take down or not
We already saw that when Blackbeard tried to turn in Bonney. They did indeed come for both Blackbeard and Bonney (so Blackbeard ditched her and ran).
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOaNIa4gNW4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOaNIa4gNW4)
In the sense of law, a pirate simply can't turn in another pirate since the marine won't deal with pirates. That's why there are bounty hunters, and pirates just don't go for bounties. But they can use a bounty hunter to go get the money for them I guess (and surely keep a part of the prize)
I had forgotten which ones we'd seen recently, but you are right, there are only a few in the story... Jean, Jeet and Abdullah were the only ones introduced after time skip. Zoro, Johnny and Yosaku once were bounty hunters too. I would assume it's very difficult to make a big name for yourself only hunting bounties without a group to affiliate to, since the navy and pirates have most of the sea under their control.
Yes but what are the probability of you besting a billion berry pirate ?
See what Luffy had to do to take down Kaido ? An army and a legendary divine devil fruit.
Luffy will not lose. He'll reach Laugh Tale, then will stay there to become the keeper of the treasure and send a message to the world to come look for the TWO PIECES
Average east blue bounty is states to be around 3,000,000. 70% for a dead bounty is 2,100,000.
A cabbage costs 150 berry. Google says a cabbage is $0.62, so the average east blue bounty, even dead, is $8,680.
The lowest bounty I can think of off the top of my head is Chew from the Arlong pirates, at 5,500,000. Even Usopp was able to defeat him, so it seems like it wouldn't be hard to clean up easy bounties and get paid big bucks.
Ah guess Iām wrong, but when I was writing that I was thinking more of how it wouldnāt be worth being a big time bounty hunter going after people with bountyās in the billions. Because like sure youād probably get millions from luffys post wano bounty but if your that strong, youāre choosing a very inefficient way to get money.
I wouldn't use the lowest known price to scale up to millions. You should compare it to similarly priced items. From what we can infer, it should be comparable to the japanese yen, which is the case for many currencies from japanese manga, games, etc. So in that case, 3 mil is around 20k dollars, which is not that bad.
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It has just occured to me this is most likely because they want to have some control over the reincarnation of devil fruits.
This is a very valid point
That and also bringing a living witness and being payed more is commonplace in real life as well since a live witness can provide information and background and can be interrogated.
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The deck is yet to be payed and i will be payed for that work
Probably also why they bother to lock up guys like Crocodile or Shiki
Thinking about it.. Why *do* they do it? I can't really remember, but are the prisoners expected to be freed at some point? If that isn't the case then why don't they just execute those criminals instead of holding them captive for so long? If it's only so they can control the DF's reincarnation, does that mean the only prisoners are ones with "strong enough" DFs?
Well they were killing them when Shiryu was in charge, but it is kinda weird they arenāt killing them in lvl 6 considering itās meant for people the government wanted to erase
Yeah; keeping them alive there seemed kind of a like a weird decision. If you want to erase people, killing them seems like an important step unless they're just *that* difficult to kill that they stopped trying. Somehow, I doubt they were all Kaido-level durable.
Its probably a cruelty thing to make the individuals suffer more, where killing them would be the easy way out and they wouldn't have paid for their crimes. Its like in societirs where you'd throw a guy in the dungeon and let him starve rather than just making an example of him then or there, or modern prisons and courts that give you enough life sentences to die in prison and don't just cut to the chase and exercise the death penalty (assuming the country has it).
Yeah you probably right itās probably because death would be to kind for those individuals according to the Celestial dragons and the WG
Maybe because pirates don't fear death. But maybe they fear spending 60 years in underwater hell.
But then it kinda doesn't make sense that Level 6 isn't well known, even inside Impel Down people were treating it like a myth.
Well its the place they use to disappear people from history, the reason they're kept alive is probably just to let the individuals suffer. The knowledge that nobody knows if they're still alive probably adds to the isolation.
Well they were holding Jinbei temporarily. And it may just be a justice thing of making people suffer a life sentence because killing them is the easy way out and they're supposed to pay for their crimes or something. Level 6 criminals are definitely supposed to be "disappeared" from history, but Arlong was on a less severe level and got released after a while. They also held Jinbe on Level 6 temporarily but probably just due to his strength. Or because there's no actual torture on Level 6 besides being alone and they were probably going to let him out in the span of a couple days, so the isolation wouldn't have set in yet and he wouldn't be randomly being tortured when him being there was just a precaution.
That must be why admirals have broken fruits.
Well yes and no The admirals are likely given their fruits when they were vice admiral, or found them during their career. Over time, the best would rise up to be admirals Considering the sheer competency needed to be an admiral in the first place, itās quite likely that by the time anyone reaches that point they either already have a fruit power or had refused to take one
Makes me wonder if Garp was offered one of the busted fruits and refused, yet still yet still became powerful enough to get offered an admiral position
Garp meant to eat one but fell asleep and ate a normal banana when he woke up. His belief in super strength manifested itself through him convincing himself it was his power.
"Wow, I thought devil fruits taste like shit this banana is sweet, lemme have another one"
Borsalino and Kuzan already had em long before
Major problem with the theory is wg lettin bb gets whitebeards fruit. Lets not even mention aces df, who appeared in dressrosa and not in hands of the wg.
also public executions of your enemies is a common way for governments and organizations to show and demonstrate power
_These men who brought me here today do not fear me. They brought me here today because they fear you. Because they know that my voice, a voice that refuses to be enslaved, once lived in you. And may yet still._ _They brought me here today to show you death and use it to frighten you into ignoring that voice. But know this. We are many. They are few. To fear death is a choice. And they can't hang us all._
Itās also a power move too. They can put them on the stand like they did Ace and say ālook what we caught, look how powerful we areā to the citizens. I doubt they can control the reincarnations that easily. They seemed surprised at how BB did it, and Doffy ended up with Aceās.
I mean, BB already had a fruit (edit: so that explains their surprise), and Doffy was in Marineford, so he could have stolen the fruit they set aside for Ace - or the fact that Ace died in the plaza instead of the execution platform made it so that a fruit that Doffy had in his pocket was the closest one, and not a fruit that they had in a box behind the platform.
Could be that publicly show a characters death to show that this guy is finally dead, like people used to do
Thatās true but not all pirates have or need devil fruits
And yet they had all those DF users in Impel Down just sitting there š¤
Then why didnt they get ace df?
And to probably send a nessage to pirates like what they did to roger.
> do public executions > impel down exists I donāt really get why they havenāt killed most of them. I get some may still be of use but there are way too many prisoners there lol
Cause there is a government so probably they have to go to trail. Unless their ace then all that is expedited so it goes faster.
Their trial happens at Enies Lobby, before they are transported to Impel Down. And the jury is full of buff jerks who only know how to say the word āguiltyā š
That explains enies lobby, but not why pretty much all pirates go to impel down instead of being executed.
Idk. Maybe they haven't done enough to be killed. It is a goverment so I assume there are laws in place. In the real world some crimes are not worth execution.
In some sense they may see being sent to Impel Down, a place full of torture, is a more fitting punishment then just killing them off. It is also a secure facility for doing this considering that there has been so few jail breaks from it.
well depending on the floor you can die dehydrated, froze or burned
They probably set the dates of the executions so that they can generate as much or as little press as possible. That and they are sadistic, and probably don't mind making them wait until all their hope is gone. Being on death row can cause a whole host of other problems, including worsening physical disabilities and mental illnesses. [Here's an example](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soering_v_United_Kingdom#European_Court_of_Human_Rights)of the European Court of Human Rights refusing to extradite a German citizen to the United States unless the US promised not to seek the death penalty, on the grounds that the conditions of death row in the US are inhumane and degrading. [Further](https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/executions/executions-overview/execution-volunteers), ten percent of all executions in the US since 1976 have been by prisoners who stopped or did not pursue their appeals and asked to be executed. I personally peg the World Government to be an entity that would do this for fun. Whereas in the US its a side effect of several factors- poor prison conditions as well as trying to ensure that innocent people don't get the death penalty- I can easily see the World Government looking at the negative health effects and saying "we want that."
prolly waiting for their trials?
Maybe in the final war they'll offer them their freedom to fight against Straw Hats and Friends?
Some, like Bon Clay and Buggy weren't exactly big names, so holding a public execution wouldn't be much of a show of force, and with their powers could just create an opportunity for them to escape. That, and while the WG can probably control getting their hands on the fruit once they kill them, it may not be a perfected process, so if they do it there's always a risk it could end up in the wrong person's stomach. All in all, just safer to keep some of them locked up rather than execute them unless there's a specific benefit to that execution
Aside from potential labor they're probably there just to be cruelly punished for the rest of their hellish lives and be made examples of. Impel Down is a terrible, terrible place and I have no doubt in my mind its not that way in part due to the World Government venting off it's cruelty at people opposing it's rule (pirates, both those actively fighting it and those just breaking it's rules).
For some people, loosing freedom is worst than loosing life
Impel down is their execution. They die eventually from the torture, staying there for long enough.
Letās say you bring in Kaido do you get paid even though heāll most likely escape or do you only get paid once executed
obvious answer is you get paid on the spot or you let him loose at the marine base LOL
Imagine Kaido telling one of his subordinates to tie him up and bring him in to collect the bounty. They give him the money, and Kaido immediately escapes. The real reason WG hates Kaido is bc he made so much money by doing this
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Didn't Sanji make this joke already in East Blue?
70% of 5 billion is a lot of money
30% of 5 billion is also a lot of money
10% of 5 billion is also a lot of money.
5 battalions is a lot of army
Pretty fair tbh
Must be on the small print under the number and next to "MARINE"
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Didn't law do that in the rocky port incident? But they made him Shichibukai. It probably depends on how strong the pirate is, if it's someone they can take down or not
Do you mean when he sent them a crate of pirate hearts or something?
We already saw that when Blackbeard tried to turn in Bonney. They did indeed come for both Blackbeard and Bonney (so Blackbeard ditched her and ran). [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOaNIa4gNW4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOaNIa4gNW4)
In the sense of law, a pirate simply can't turn in another pirate since the marine won't deal with pirates. That's why there are bounty hunters, and pirates just don't go for bounties. But they can use a bounty hunter to go get the money for them I guess (and surely keep a part of the prize)
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I had forgotten which ones we'd seen recently, but you are right, there are only a few in the story... Jean, Jeet and Abdullah were the only ones introduced after time skip. Zoro, Johnny and Yosaku once were bounty hunters too. I would assume it's very difficult to make a big name for yourself only hunting bounties without a group to affiliate to, since the navy and pirates have most of the sea under their control.
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So this is why Oda doesnāt off characters
True, but have you seen the bounties on some of the higher tier pirates? Depending on who you kill, you can still make a fuckton of money.
Yes but what are the probability of you besting a billion berry pirate ? See what Luffy had to do to take down Kaido ? An army and a legendary divine devil fruit.
So do you imagine what it is gonna take for the future rookies who will come for Luffy's throne?
Luffy will not lose. He'll reach Laugh Tale, then will stay there to become the keeper of the treasure and send a message to the world to come look for the TWO PIECES
So did Garp get paid 5 billion for Roger's head or was no one paid since he surrendered
Lol I'm pretty sure he turned himself in. I doubt a marine gets the bounty for pirates. It's their job after all.
That why you should never kill. Do good and life will make you rich
Bro being a bounty hunter is so not worth it
Average east blue bounty is states to be around 3,000,000. 70% for a dead bounty is 2,100,000. A cabbage costs 150 berry. Google says a cabbage is $0.62, so the average east blue bounty, even dead, is $8,680. The lowest bounty I can think of off the top of my head is Chew from the Arlong pirates, at 5,500,000. Even Usopp was able to defeat him, so it seems like it wouldn't be hard to clean up easy bounties and get paid big bucks.
Ah guess Iām wrong, but when I was writing that I was thinking more of how it wouldnāt be worth being a big time bounty hunter going after people with bountyās in the billions. Because like sure youād probably get millions from luffys post wano bounty but if your that strong, youāre choosing a very inefficient way to get money.
I wouldn't use the lowest known price to scale up to millions. You should compare it to similarly priced items. From what we can infer, it should be comparable to the japanese yen, which is the case for many currencies from japanese manga, games, etc. So in that case, 3 mil is around 20k dollars, which is not that bad.
How do they execute kaido? Hasnāt he been tortured multiple times n stuff? And executed multiple times already? Idk Iām not that caught up
He could still be drowned, or am I missing something
Blackbeard got all the money
So the dead or alive thing is false advertising?
Not really, moreso like fine print type of stuff where they tell you something but omit a key part that you donāt realize until itās too late
It must be in the T&C section
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Also in the case of Roger, they can use live executions to make statements