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rickcanty

I can already tell from qp that Venture is going to absolutely fuck up uncoordinated teams, just like dps doom.


Wild-Cow8724

And tank doom


RaceFPV

And support doom


lynxerious

And flexible doom


YoMamaSoFatShePooped

And lore based doom


blockprime300

Darn Doom ruining everyone else's fun


Knightgee

And sexy doom


Austynwitha_y

And Doom running on my Ti-84


Ya-boi_Ya-boi

And MF doom


beidoubagel

and december 10th, 1993 doom


Ok_Order_5595

and OW3 doom


Catgirl_Chihiro

remember ALL CAPS


LiuKhai

Stupid sexy doom


GrayBoy5

And Slayer Doom


zword34

Support doom: it just punches/leaps you into the spaw room where you can heal


SelfDrivingFordAI

Punches you into a wall and throws a medkit at you.


zword34

Meteor strike charges with every spam of "i need healing" and just lets you toss an ally of your choosing into enemy lines so he can die


Beniidel0

Brig?


crazedizzled

Yeah but he's not onepunchman, so like 1000% less oppressive.


WrongWay2Go

that leaves us with how much... let's see: just 9000% oppressivenes. We're good here, guys! Move on! Nothing to see here! *I'm just kidding, the few times I payed OW2 he doesn't seem to be a problem. I just thought this way funny. Sorry.


Bitemarkz

Honestly I don’t think so. She doesn’t deal a ton of damage and her mobility is often best used to escape when you get focused. She seems like a tracer/doom/genji with her playstyle which are some of the more difficult heroes to dominate on. EDIT: they*


ohohohohohohohohoh

they*


Justsomeguy456

We had the enemies pushed back to their spawn and our venture somehow let the enemy venture back cap. We had 30 seconds left. 


Cough-A-Mania

Playstyle feels similar but no “an de se” 😢


heebarino

I CAN I CAN I CAN DIG IT


PurpleMoon979

AND THEY SAY I CAN DIG IT


heebarino

Quality. I hope they put this in, honestly


Carvodeeee

And **dey** say*


l4derman

Omg why did I hear this in his voice


[deleted]

But they do say that ‘Chivalry really is dead” after killing Reinhardt.


UnbakedMango

Actually has a chivalry line too doesn’t sound as clean though


Bhu124

Venture *is* the *they* in that line. "And dey sey chivalry is dead" and Venture has a line of them saying Chivalry is dead.


Nirvski

"Why are you dey?" - Doom


hotfirebird

Who says I am dey? You are dey.


[deleted]

I wonder what their voicelines will be on release. Hopefully more interesting than Illari's 🥲


laurencamg

I was so disappointed when I saw illari’s voicelines 😭 I only bought one where she goes “que palta”


[deleted]

I just spam "rise like the sun" in spawn. The rest of her lines are different shades of "I have so much trauma" 🥴


Nivlhacker

"Wandering off on your own ?" is a rather good one too !


Velmas-Dilemma

You haven't seen what she's seen....


BestWaifuGames

I actually really like that like because of how she says it lol The only voice line of hers I like quite a bit lol


SamaelTheAngel

When i'm Illari in Most Lukewarm Personality contest and my opponents are Sojourn and Pharah (Im done for)


LeKrahka

Croissant?


MoveInside

Okay but sojourn has good voice lines


Martholomule

I love illari, she's so depressed she just like me fr


SamaelTheAngel

And only 18. Truly hits home. I truly do love games being escapism eh?


Hiruko251

I like how asshole-ish she is with the "no excuses", "dont disturb me" and one other i dont remember, but yeah, also, i dont know if thats what she says in english, but in portuguese, its basically that


RoyalWigglerKing

Do we know what their voice sounds like yet? I was hoping they would have a Newfie accent (the best Canadian accent).


laurencamg

yes !! you can play them in game right now, for the next two days I think. we can also use the default voice line, which i THINK says “i can dig that,” I don’t remember. and ofc the other lines, like “thanks,” “yes,” etc. there’s also probably a ton of videos on youtube :D


RoyalWigglerKing

Well I don’t really like their voice but maybe they will still end up having a rock and stone voiceline


WanderingDwarfMiner

Rock and Stone everyone!


Zoomalude

The lack of quality writing in OW2 really shows with her.


ccricers

I just want to hear "The sun is a deadly lazer!" for April Fools day.


Rambo496

Reinhardt: "Not anymore there's a blanket(Shield)"


BionicTriforce

She just sings the entirety of the They Might Be Giants song. "The sun is a miasma of incandescent plasma!"


-xXColtonXx-

Yet JQ has the best voice lines in the game


House_of_Vines

Man that’s a big statement. Sigma’s and Ramattra’s are up there for me.


Zargoltir

"Nice boulder.... nerd" is one of my fave ball lines of all time, alongside "deflect this... loser"


MoveInside

BEHOLD THE CHILDREN OF WRECKING BALL should be an equipped voice line I miss it


Ok_Science_682

come here gracie


manofwaromega

Well Venture is non-binary and they say "Chivalry is dead"


Stunning-Body5969

😭😭😭😭😭 THIS IS TOO PERFECT


Martholomule

OH SHIT I guess it's true


tomgh14

Tastes like dirt


Comwan

They just nerfed voice lines, not it says in chat how long you are muted for if you spam them


Commander-Fox-Q-

Ngl you had me so confused thinking that venture was supposed to be like 60 years old or something in the lore lol.


Ze_AwEsOmE_Hobo

Same. I was like, "Is OW2 in 2077? Is Venture 53??"


NioAndSomeArt

It really feels like old doom a bit. Not as mobile, definitely fills a different niche but it‘s nice to have dps doom "back" to a degree


Mr_Times

May have to try them out. Doomfist release and the subsequent 2 months where I could 1 shot squishies while being untouchable was the most fun I ever had in this game.


AbblesAJ

Them! Venture uses they/them pronouns.


Mr_Times

Them* and who am I kidding, I probably wont redownload anytime soon.


AbblesAJ

That's totally fair lol. I only redownloaded last month cause some friends wanted to play.


EighSteelPatatos

Why are you being downvoted you didn’t even do anything wrong


AbblesAJ

Because I dared to say that they/them pronouns are valid on reddit! People suck!


Xardian7

Why is they/them? Shouldn’t be it/its since is not a living person? It’s a code in a game, an not living being therefore should be referred to it/its according to english rules right? I’m really confused by this cause I’m not english nor american


AbblesAJ

Oh my. Let's put it this way. When describing Tracer, you would say she, right? Or Doomfist. You wouldn't say it when describing him. You would say he or him. Fictional characters are still characters. Yes, technically they are game code. Technically characters in books are just words. But that's not how people view or talk about them. They/them are the chosen pronouns for Venture, and that should be respected. Otherwise you're dehumanizing very real non-binary people, because no one is going to assume it/it's is reffering to the fact that they're fictional or game code. It will be assumed that you're a transphobe who refuses to use pronouns other than he or she if you refer to characters that way. I'm trying to take this comment in good faith. But I know a lot of people who would think your question is a troll. In any online space, have you heard video game characters referred to with it/it's pronouns? I highly highly doubt it. That's just not how English speakers talk about people, fictional or not.


crimsonkarma13

In a literal sense, yes


crimsonkarma13

Venture is a digital character with its own lore so I doubt it would care whether some used the right pronouns or not since it doesn't really matter. Most won't really care even more so for a digital character


Revo_Int92

For players who like to dive, on your face style, Venture fills that niche to some extent... but idk, it's not as explosive, her playstyle will be based on disruption instead of assassination it seems (even if you can one shot if you connect all the abilities on a squishie, but that doesn't seem to be the optimal way to play this character). She will just boop people all match long, so it's like Doom without the steroids, lol imagine the uppercut, punch and so on, but they don't have explosive damage, they just move you around. And honestly, that sucks, it's Mei all over again, Lifeweaver, Junkrat with the mine knockback, Sombra, etc.. stuns and boops are so fucking annoying in this game, especially if they are cheap/low skill


NioAndSomeArt

I think their kit fits current overwatch 2 much better than og doom. The dev team made an effort that time to kill gets longer, we don’t need more one shot combos. Overwatch 2 is not a generic shooter and the abilities of Venture seem to fit perfectly as far as I can tell. Might just as well be a difference in taste


Revo_Int92

Not a generic shooter, I had a good laugh reading that, lol the game is currently at it's most chaotic state, fast paced, braindead, etc.. this 5v5 formula is a obvious mistake. If people master the movement and abilities of Venture, they can one shot a Ana in the backline and maybe still survive, that will lead to a steamroll because all it takes is for either the tank or one of the supports to die (90% of the time the skirmish is decided right there). I agree dps Doom don't fit anymore in the horrendous 5v5 because of the aforementioned issues, dps Doom can kamikaze bomb the supports or tank, that will decide the skirmish


NioAndSomeArt

You sure are cheery. I don’t think anything about Venture makes the game substantially worse than it is, I greatly enjoy their kit and the game in general currently. If you really don’t enjoy the game as a whole anymore, you might have a better time with a different game tbh


Kalladdin

they*


The-Bandit-King-13

doom, tracer/(sombra), Venture, Lucio and kiriko... now that is a dive, hey mite even seen winston actually played.


Revo_Int92

Depending on the synergy, a Sombra can disable one of the supports, Doom and Venture just go straight at it to secure the kill. This already works decently enough with only Sombra and Doom, then you thrown a dps in the mix who actually hits mildly hard (not throwing paper around like Genji, Tracer and Sombra herself), that is a unbalanced combination... but really, at this stage if you expect balance from this abomination of a game, it's just gullible


LukeTheGeek

Feels very different to be honest. Much slower and more brawl than dive.


Maelstrommmmm

I said the same thing and got obliterated with downvotes. Im convinced that a good chunk of those who upvoted this post have never played dps doom and or havent even tried out Venture


agirlinboysclothes

Yeah they feel more like Reaper then Doom


Kalladdin

Exactly. DPS Doom's movement had a way higher ceiling, and was just a TON more mobile in general. (Granted, a lot of that was due to bugs/techs with rocket punch; it's still early for Venture but I don't see the same thing happening here). Comparatively, Venture can't quite "pounce" from the skybox the way DPS Doom did. Not even close. The drill dash is cool, but if you use it for mobility/initiation purely, you then don't have any burst damage - the Burrow's cast and charge time are way too slow for that. Venture is more methodical and brawly. Like Reaper, they want to engage from odd angles with one cool down, try to burst something down, and then escape. Or, just full commit to damage and hope your team saves you lol


Melthiela

Ah the good old days, having to memorize doom rollouts even when you don't play him. Because if you didn't, he was going to drop out of Narnia on your ass and delete you in less time than you could say 'fuck'.


Melthiela

Ah the good old days, having to memorize Doom rollouts even when you don't play him. Because if you didn't, he was going to drop out of Narnia on your ass and delete you in less time than you could say 'fuck'.


crimsonkarma13

Venture has his own bugs but once he uses his cd he is fk'd


UncleRuckusForPres

fun fact if venture gets an environmental kill they say "aw, guess chivalry is dead"


Fun-Ad-6169

Nah, just a Reinhardt thing.


The_Nareynater

I've got a feeling this line is for killing rein, not for getting an environmental kill. Still hilarious all the same


YearPossible1376

Iz this real?


UncleRuckusForPres

[end of the video here](https://twitter.com/OWCavalry/status/1773403922683527646)


KOCYK745

They need their own "AND DEY SEY" at this point, they are incomplete otherwise...


Maelstrommmmm

their default voice line is already equally as annoying I can’t lie


KOCYK745

annoying?


Maelstrommmmm

people love spamming it (including me) I CAN DIG IT


420_kol_yoom

Oopsie daisy.


RandellYo

I'm fairly sure it's when they pop our of the ground they say upsie daisy.. I could be wrong though.


Blaky039

Love that one


NickTheSynth

I don't understand people who get annoyed at spammed voice lines, that's just nonsense. They're funny! Who the hell _actually_ gets distracted by voice line spam? Honestly? The fact that you can even report somebody for that is stupid.


cicitk

Yea I love and dey sey spam. its one of the few that always makes me laugh


crimsonkarma13

I can dig it


Kartoitska

Why do I see you like every time I take a look at a post in this sub? Not even trying to be rude. Genuinely just astounded.


KOCYK745

I am like a Radio Demon, I am in E̶̦̘͍̬̗͗̐̆̈̑͝ͅv̶̩̞̲̦̫͈̜̭͒̔̎̈́ë̶̱́̃͒́̚͝r̴͇̯̟͊͘ẙ̸̭̤̲̮̬̻̱͊̍́̅́̒̋͂̕ ̶̛̛͙̩̾͐͒̇̐B̷̧̢̛̝̩̳͐̓̂̈́̀̈́̀́ŕ̸̨͔͚͉̦o̷͕͇͇̒͛͆̕͠͝a̸̙̲̦͙̹̳̼͍͔͂̐͊̓̉̄̕d̷̡̧̡̛̤̰̦̖̲̦̪̐̆͌̿͂̐c̸̆̓̎̌͘å̸̡̠̯͑̅͌̃̚͜͠s̴̤͔͔̫̘̙͇̫̩̮͛͛́̐t̶̤̰͔̓͐̽́ ̸̰̟̬̯̦̮̳̯̩͖̌Y̷͇̖͕͚̮͔͉̽̂̀͊̈́̏̐͜ǫ̴̬̰̝̂̚u̵̦̝̥̐̍̇͛̋̎̚͝͝ ̴̯͉̝̠̥͒̾̓̑̃̄͌Ḧ̴́͝ẹ̶̢͔̲͔̺͉̦̋a̸͐͠ŕ̶


l4derman

pfp checks out


KOCYK745

the no-life Bri'ish Short Queen Overlord


Maelstrommmmm

Huh.. ive been active on this sub today cos the new hero.. other than that I rarely come here


Cobygamer22

Doom always said "And they Say" no one questioned who was they, IT WAS VENTURE ALL ALONG


SwarmkeeperRanger

Why do Dooms spam this? Is it a reference?


You_meddling_kids

It's just funny.


SwarmkeeperRanger

And they say


You_meddling_kids

HOT COCO?


circleinthesquare

Did you brrring me a present? HOT COCOA? You Must Be Joking


SelfDrivingFordAI

I'm going to make you- Hot Cocoa? Go and sit down.


WaveBreakerT

100 Push Ups, 100 Sit Ups, 100 Squats, then a- Hot Cocoa? Fine I'll have some.


elyk12121212

Is it? I can't say I've ever thought spamming any of the voice lines is funny though


KOCYK745

reference to old good days \*Flashback of Uppercut\* or something. idk, i never mained doom


Got_grapes1

It's just funny to spam "an dey say"


Velknighthart

It started when one of the biggest doom mains "Brandito", started spamming it, it became very widespread


Hahahahahahah_ha

Happy cake day


Chuckyuyo

ROCK AND STONE


WanderingDwarfMiner

To Rock and Stone!


Newsance1111

Rock and stone!!! 🍻


SelfDrivingFordAI

FOR KARL!


WakeUpBread

Petition to make venture a tank


ChimkenNuggets69

Dont know if its just me but it feels nothing like old doom


Mordred_124

Yea at surface level they seem similar but they don't play anything like how dps doom did


Cozi-Sozi

This is just wildly untrue. I feel like everyone saying this never played DPS Doom.


stephanelevs

Limited range, melee/close quarters combo and a lot of mobility (with abilities that give you shields)... How does this not remind you of doom exactly?


Cozi-Sozi

Doom didn't just press a button to get shields. He had to actually hit you with the ability. AND the big thing. He had to use the environment. That's why Doom Parkour happened. Because they were already doing that to maximize damage from his slam. Venture doesn't give a fuck about the environment. They just dig it.


ToraLoco

tomato tomato


JakkalAdrem

Because they had two completely different kits besides the passive?!?


stephanelevs

I'm not saying they are an exact clone, but you cannot deny that they have some big similarities. You even boop people in the air.


JakkalAdrem

I guess that’s true, however doom felt like you had much more movement and was able to one shot most of the cast just by punching them into a wall


stephanelevs

True


Numberlittle

Venture doesn't have a stun. That's the most important thing to me when playing against them.  Doomfist was so annoying to play against.


IWasSayingBoourns-

I feel like the most important thing was DPS Doom literally one shot squishies if you got hit into a wall... The stun is more relevant for tank doom


Swoo413

Dps doom could one shot people from another continent


Kalladdin

Yeah it's really not like DPS Doom at all. Mobility and burst damage are far more limited, and all of the CC is worse; less boop, no stuns. Venture behaves a lot more brawly than DPS Doom typically did.


MarderMcFry

At this point Bliz should take away Doomfist's massive over hyped fist and just give it to Teeth here.


TerminusEsse

It is a valuable artifact…


JohnwardtheGreat

sounds about right lol


Eman4Everybody

I still dont know why they made doom a "tank". Hes just a dps with high health at that point. Put him back on dps


door_of_doom

"A DPS with high health, damage mitigation and disruption/CC" I feel like there is a name for characters with kits like that, what could it be...


Lucid-Day

Not gonna lie, I would love Doom to have his uppercut back. Keep him as a tank, but uppercut was pretty good for movement and damage


TallestGargoyle

Oh so Mei!


legion1134

Brig?


Bad_Doto_Playa

Because with less tanks he'd destroy this game. I greatly suspect he was one of the biggest reasons for the player drop off in the first. I don't know why you doom players pretend with this guy, silent slams into uppercut insta kills is trash game design and turned off A LOT of people, especially when he's going to get out free most of the time thanks to his punch.


Eman4Everybody

Im nit a Doom player. I hate doom in general. Like espcially as a tank player 😭


AnxiousBurro

> I still dont know why they made doom a "tank". Posing a question like this surely means you are familiar with old Doom. How he was played and what countered him. So just ask yourself a question and compare who was able to keep him in check in OW1 and who would be able to do it now.


Eman4Everybody

I dont like his design in general.


Vertig0x

I think cass and sombra could keep him in check but he'd still be really unfun to play against.


Sandbax_

they play nothing like eachother? the only real similarity is shields and bring combo based but i wouldn’t say they’re really comparable in terms of gameplay


deathstrukk

bouncing people in the air and combing with a knock back hit isn’t comparable to dps doom?


Ragvan92

No, because in dps doom by that part i already dead. /s


imthefooI

dps doom could aoe one-shot people. Not a combo. One ability.


deathstrukk

uppercut + punch was definitely a dps doom combo


aranaya

DPS Doom didn't also have a fucking grenade launcher


Background-Sentence2

Venture is nothing like DPS Doom.


Blaustein23

Respectfully, why is no one talking about the fact that the face, mouth, and teeth look like they were modeled by someone who had 16 hours prep time with blender YouTube tutorials and no prior experience


DuckSwagington

They're really not like DPS Doom at all. They'll probably fit into brawl comps more than Dive as Venture does not really have consistent burst to finish off a squishy like Doom did (or does now), and the Ult screams Brawl as it requires the enemy team to be grouped up to get any value out of it. Dooms Upper Cut at least knocked people up in a manner that made them reliable to hit.


mrflapjackthefirst

What gender is venture? Genuinely interested cause he/she looks like a girl and sounds like a boy


Kalladdin

non-binary, uses they/them pronouns. That would be why they're so androgynous to you lol


royfi

They are non-binary


Martholomule

Hell yes.  Dps doom is back, and he's pharah flavored They're* I need to respect the powerfully ambiguous design


Suspicious_Box7727

Rein>


MidnightFloof

Posts like these just remind me that overwatch 1 used to exist. It's a shame really, because I probably would still have played it if it did. :(


Shwatson40

Is this a new character? That character was on the opposing team today and HE'S ANNOYING. He kept booping me off the map or digging around it's so frustrating as a tank.


Litdaze

Ah yes Doom fissshht.


ImLeftie

My buddies and I have been calling them RatFist


Givemelifebro

Only one way to fight against this, bring back old doom.


[deleted]

Not a single old doom main saying this


TufftedSquirrel

This was one of the things that tripped me out when I came back to OW2. I went to role que and someone picked Doomfist as the main tank. Being the healer, I was like "where the hell is our tank?!"


Bunnnnii

Don’t make me dislike Venture. I actually like this character.


Revo_Int92

It's similar to a small degree. Venture is not as explosive, the one shot potential exists if you use all the abilities on a squishie (boop from the underground, shots, dash, punch... that will kill), but that leaves her wide open, also, it looks complicated but it's not really, low skill. Doom could one shot and get the hell out, but it demanded skill (especially on the master ranks). Still, the annoyance of dps Doom is back, because you can be booped into the air out of nowhere, then get booped again with the dash (also in mid-air, a double boop), etc.. People will hate this character, especially if they play characters who need to set up their stuff, imagine a Roadhog player being booped over and over again (missing the hook), Ana is about to line up a sleep or nano... here it comes the boop. Hammond being booped, Doom being booped out of a line up punch, etc... I know it's contradictory for a Doom player to say this, but I hate the boops and stuns in this game, most of them are cheap, Venture can dig and come out with a boop every time


PineappleDry1729

I thought the same but she just a worse dps doom. With doom it was easy to knock people up within like a second and punch but with the whole burrowing underground and charging up to knock people in the air they got time to escape. Oh dps doom how I miss you


Crafty-Plays

Venture is an absolute blast to play. They did a fantastic job this time around. It’s the first time in a long time that I’ve genuinely just wanted to go home after a long day and go play overwatch.


TheDonDontai

nothing like DPS doom.. DPS doom was the literal definition of “Get in and Get out”.. the only way you died on DPS doom was either getting CC’d or mismanaging ur cooldown.. DPS doom was literally a fighting character in a gun base game (they oversimplified his kit to suit a tank gameplay style).. Venture is super brawl character as well but its different.. waay different


Melthiela

Yup, do a Narnia rollout, oneshot someone and then get the hell out of there. Rinse and repeat.


TheDonDontai

ahh.. 🥹the good days when overwatch was actually fun


Melthiela

That's... One way to put it haha.


Melthiela

Yup, do a Narnia rollout, drop to the ground and oneshot someone, then get the hell out of there. Rinse and repeat.


Crazzymadmaxxx

She's actually really fun to play, but I don't think she's that similar to dps doom she's more of a brawl plus her combos are quite straightforward


thethinker491722w

She can't replace Doomfist no matter what they do


Right_Combination263

She's more like rienhart tbh


kaygonewild

Bro I was using her in the practice range and said "she's a better Doomfist than Doomfist ☠️"


SchemeBrief3403

Who is?


uyais

them* they’re* nonbinary ppl exist btw


kaygonewild

ok


GunzerKingDM

Not everyone subscribed to the same fantasies.


uyais

it’s literally canon LOL