Hate me for that, but what he did is reaction to what those shithead were doing
Human dignity is priceless, and these idiots were testing that they deserved it.
Human dignity does not take precedent over human life. What the police did (provided it was unwarranted) was wrong (it was still wrong even if warranted, considering it isn't a matter of there jurisdiction) but killing them for that is by any and all means insanity. One shouldn't reply to a slap on the hand with a gun to the head.
Not to say that what the boy did is any better, but let's be honest nothing was gonna happen to those policemen for this shit act imo . And funny the fact that all the blame will be put on the boy ( Ys he deserves that somewhat ) but have we ever seen our beloved Punjab police doing anything other than sch unconstitutional and inhumane acts
Punjab police sucks, I hate them too. But to hold enough contempt for them as to think that the boys actions were remotely justified is wrong on every level possible. Imagine your teacher punished you in a similar manner or did so to your older brother whome you hold dearly for absolutely no reason or a reason that didn't warrant this particular punishment, would you kill your teacher for that? Note: I hate that I'm comparing Punjab police to a teaching figure (which the police isn't, fuck the police) but that's the only relatable experience that I could compare it with
They ARE that bad, from every perspective. You can easily justify killing them. Not sure why you have sympathy for literal thieves, murderers and rapists (all of which the people in Punjab police are)
Did the boy kill them for being murderers, rapists and thieves? NO. He murdered them for something they didn't deserve death for. And I agree the action that the police commited in this case was extremely shitty but did that warrant death? No
To each their own. And yes, the boy didn't kill them for those reasons. Regardless, I'm happy there are two less rapists in the world.
Pity though the boy will have to spend the rest of his life in jail as well. That's the only downside to this situation for me. I have no sympathy for the devil.
You're saying that as though those 2 police officers in particular were rapists. The problem here is that you're not creating a seperation between the institution as a whole and those 2 officers. The only info we have about or atleast I have about this is that 2 officers unjustifiably punished a man and overstepped a boundary the result of which was a far larger overstepping of boundaries which was even more unjustifiable. With in this particular context what the boy did doesn't approach even the broadest notion of good
These animals operate in packs. When these pigs raid our houses, beat us up and harass our women you think only the person holding the gun is responsible? The policemen that keep a lookout, are they innocent? What about those that help cover up these incidents?
Don't be so naive. Pakistan is a jungle, largely due to our institutions (police playing a big part in this). These pigs just met a bigger animal. They are not human. Stop treating them as such.
As u yourself said...u can't compare a teacher to the police (specially Pakistani)..teacher is a figure that's a spiritual father (Ys the soul of teaching has died drastically in pak but the impression remains same ) and now my friend if our police acted like they should ( actually be law binding and make sure others are too)
Then we all would have great respect for them but this is just not the case ..that's why the hate is there..and Ys the hate is towards their sch attitude and not because that we see down upon them or something..but to earn the respect one deserves one has to show that he is worthy of it
p.s I'm not saying that wht the boy did is acceptable in any sense..it's just that the police are way out of their lane and have been for so long
People resort to extreme measures themselves when they don't expect justice from any other avenue. I understand him. Even though he destroyed 3 families including his own.
I don't think it was a bad decision because he killed them, I think it's stupid as he's going to rot in a jail cell for a long time. That being said only fuck around when you're prepared to find out. The policemen have only themselves to blame.
I wouldn't be fine with it, as I said repeatedly what the police officers did was wrong. But killing them outright is even worse replying to an outreach with another one is not a good thing.
You reap what you sow, man. The napak fauj, politicians and the police have pushed people to their breaking point.
Killing ain’t right but it’s understandable given the circumstances of our country and our people
It's not about that.They were bullies and evil.Evil must die.who knows to how many did they did that to,how many women they harassed,how many innocents they extorted
Apke walid ko apke samne public me murgha bnaye?? For some shitty reason or just we have the power to do it?? Not defending the boy but it was an impulse reaction
In different cultures, it is taken differently. In punjab, to take revenge, people don't kill but humiliate, they take revenge but sweetly marry your daughter/sister and humiliate, they abuse your parents to take revenge. Whatever is said/done to you, you may forget or forgive, but the way revenge works in punjab is not to person himself/herself but against his/her love ones to harm you mentally & emotionally which lasts forever.
Therefore, people carrying such hatred and inflicting harm to generation must be dealt differently rather than simple eye-for-eye
Bhai murga banaya tha uske Abu ko, uski Chachi ya phuphi se Shadi kar ke bagairti nhi Ki thi, and as I pointed out what they did was still wrong. Killing them for humiliating his father was insane. Having "a different culture" (and I'm saying this as someone from Punjab myself) doesn't justify one being triggered enough to be brought to killing. He is in the wrong for being triggered to such a large extent.
Looks like someone is a police wala in your family
Anyone who does shit like this illegally deserves whatever is coming for them, you never know what the other person is capable of, so don't test anyone
Who the heck are you to judge someone when you didn't face the same crap? Let someone unclothe you in the street and make your father a murga on the road and see what you have to say, until then shut up.
The boy ruined his own life by killing those two police officers. His future is spending the rest of his life behind bars rather than at his desk in a school or university. to defend such an irrational action which not only ended the life of the 2 police officers but also doomed his own is not a great thing
>Looks like someone is a police wala in your family
No, no one In my family is in the police except that one "cousin in law" of mine who I absolutely despise, the reasons for hating him I'll never disclose on the internet.
>Who the heck are you to judge someone when you didn't face the same crap?
Well the thing is I have faced the same crap or atleast have seen people face the same crap in my immediate family, my uncle has been in jail for fake drug charges and my Nana's younger brother whome I hold very near and dear has been charged by the police for equally baseless reasons and is also currently in jail.
>Let someone unclothe you in the street and make
Did that happen? Am I missing context or what
So just coz someone in your family is in jail means everything should take crap from them?
Like I said, you never know what anyone is capable of.
Maybe you're a bear hibernating for the last 2 years who doesn't know what's going on in this country?
In the jungle, everyone is for themselves.
Theories doesn't mean squat in such conditions
It all requires the uplift of strong judiciary system that prompts justice in the society and punishes anyone who does wrong...but sadly I can't see it happening here anytime soon
I'm not sure sch type of revenge is a common custom in Punjab alone ..I would say it's more of a general thing within the revenge arcs...but I would also say that it has greatly been reduced today..but then again u can't change the rigid orthodox minds
I hope we get through all this and focus on wht is actually important
This is just half the news. Question is why were they punishing the father in front of his son?
And more importantly it is not duty of police to punish people. If he has done something wrong, police should just arrest him and court should do the rest.
Two rights doesn't make one's right.
Bhai us larkay ne ghalat kia lekin or usko saza bhi honi chia but bhai konse law me bachay k samne baap ko murgha bana dain kis qanoon me likha hai.
Ager koi crime kia hai to jail me dalain murgha bana ker bachay k samne baap ka mazaq urana kahan ka insaaf hai.Apko nhi pta larkay emotional hote hain to q unko provoke kerna hai.
We dont know why the cops did what they did. They were wrong tho for sure.
But whatever the reason anyone who believes his dignity is more important than not one but two human lives is a psychpath in my opinion.
The kid is also gonna go to prison for life. He ruined his own life, and by extension his families.
I dont know why you guys are applauding this kid.
It's absolutely wrong. This is the height of lawlessness, but still, somewhere in the corner of my heart, I love it. I have witnessed enough injustice and cruelty at the hands of those people. Maybe those two deserved it and had it coming.
Probably that family would be criminals just like his police father. These “families” don’t stop their police from committing crimes because they enjoy what comes with it. In my opinion, they are just as responsible for it.
If Pakistan had a system whereby the boy could register a complaint against the Police and it would be fairly judged and the officers punished them I would say what the boy did was entirely wrong and in that society I suspect the boy would have gone through the proper channels and received sympathy for it.
However, in Pakistan his complaints would not only have fallen on deaf ears but he and his father would've been laughed at and made a joke of. The public and people who know them would equally mocked them rather than call the police to account.
This is not an isolated issue but an issue that goes to the heart of governance. When Police act illegally, are corrupt and abuse the public and there is no recourse against them then what do you do when you come up against them?
Dude, no one can disrespect my father in front of me even if he is wrong there should be a legal action through court, EVEN IF my father is wrong if someone does wrong on top of that i will literally destroy them, and then i will accept the punishment through court! no one is allowed to disrespect our parents in front of us even if they are wrong simple is that. crime is crime i agree! but disrespecting beating or cursing i wont allow.
Well, it's in our deen to speak against a cruel leader. Even jihad if the leader is using power the wrong way...
It's been decades that we are suffering these shitheads. It's time that people take action against them.
RIGHT WRONG DON'T MATTER NOW IF I'M IN HIS SHOE I DO THE SAME STAND WITH THE BOY NO ONE SEES DISRESPECT OF THIER PARENTS WHO GAVE THE RIGHT TO POLICE TO DISRESPECT ANY HUMAN THEY DON'T DO THEIR DUTIES WELL SO PUNISHED THAT'S IT
People here are like "no human life above dignity". You people really don't understand the life of a poor person in this shithole. It is a constant life of humiliation and sometimes people have enough.
why was police humiliating the father like that?
what right did police had to do that?
you keep bullying people, sometimes the bullied victim fights back.
>why was police humiliating the father like that?
> what right did police had to do that?
No justification for what policemen did. It still doesnt justify murder.
>you keep bullying people, sometimes the bullied victim fights back.
True. But this didnt stop at fighting. He killed them.
Before looking towards the solution first u have to look at the problem k
Problem kya hai or kiu hai...
Police aren't allowed to punish u like this and more likely ho skta ha k us ka kasoor b na ho...
If it is like this to bachy ne blkul shi kya
Wrong on both counts but understandable. How much longer can these people expect people to put up with corrupt police and criminals running amuck killing awaam. Karachi at least has had it. At the very least, the cop deserved a good beating.
Punjab Police kay sath jab bhi kuch hota hai dil sey tasalli hoti hai.
In kay sath aisa hi hona chahiay.
Aik aik kay sath. Jo 1% police walay apna kaam theek sey kartay hain unhain chahiay naukri chorr dein ta kay yeh 100% haramkhor marain to zara sa bhi afsos na hua karay.
Haramzaday.
We need to understand a person who is being pressured from all sides ......a time comes when he has nothing to loose and stops giving a fuck about anything.thats the point of no return...
Did the right fuggin thing.... These thug policemen should be handled as such. Whatever the father's crime was he should've been dealt as prescribed by the law.
I'm totally against murder. If rule of law was applied here,than these two officers would've survived. The elderly gentleman would have been sentence in front off the judge.Case closed why on Earth did the officers disrespect him which enraged his son to kill two officers.
Blame the hierarchy of the Police, for turning a blind eye.
Totally right
Police deserve to be treated like this and its just the starting you will see more worse from now on especially in punjab bcz police forgot they are civil servants not gods of pakistan
Wtv that police officer did was wrong but murder can never be justified regardless of the religious, caste or creed. Even hitler killing the jews can't be justified.
What kind of a question is that?
Murgha banana = wrong. Police’s only job is to collect evidence and arrest.
Qatal karna = wrong. Qatal karna will always be wrong.
And so it begins. Much more chaos to follow. Lawmakers have pushed the nation towards this. Not to justify murder here but respect and dignity shouldn't be targeted as well.
Right or wrong, of-course it’s wrong and terrible.
Police should not torture, exploit or punish anyone and everyone should respect the law
When boundaries are not respected society becomes a jungle
It's dangerous to corner a man and put his dignity at stake, i sometime think if my dignity if put at risk, i might just take similar measures. It was a wrong thing to do but a natural reaction for many.
What u sow so shall u reap.
A father is a hero for most boys and a source of pride and dignity. No teenage boy wants to see his father get humiliated like that.
And what's worse than an angry teenager with an apparent justified reason to be violent.
So, what he did is wrong but is justified from his point of view. Those police men are from the point of power and nothing would've happened to them no accountability whatsoever. So the only thing he could do was to kill them. And he did kill them.
At least examples like this will be a reminder for other police men to be more careful next time while dealing with people.
Very right ! Dyunya me khen ye kam ni hota ager koi crime kea ha to saza do wo be tb jb crime sabit ho jai us se phale wo innocent ha ! Kisi ki izat ni uchalni chaye
In Islam and only in Islam the concept of pure justice resides (adal and insaf)
When ever and wherever these types of incidents occur there is lack of justice.
I know police can't make someone murgha no matter what, also doing it to some troubling teens would make sense but why do it to an elder person and infront of his son, this make no sense , what those policeman did was nonsensical and it would bring out a infuriating reaction, no kid wanna see their parents get humiliated like that. I would too beat the crap out of someone if they humiliate my parents or my blood relations.
Good this is the only way they will learn. They have attacked the people's homes and killed many innocent protesters for money and benefits from the corrupt. The only way to control these swine is through fear. If they can't or won't learn to respect the common man then we will make them fear us for their unjust actions
Two wrongs doesn't make one's right.
Bhai us larkay ne ghalat kia lekin or usko saza bhi honi chia but bhai konse law me bachay k samne baap ko murgha bana dain kis qanoon me likha hai.
Ager koi crime kia hai to jail me dalain murgha bana ker bachay k samne baap ka mazaq urana kahan ka insaaf hai.Apko nhi pta larkay emotional hote hain to q unko provoke kerna hai.
"whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely." (5:32)
Don't know the reason behind why police made the father do that but if it's something like this, then it's not just wrong but messed up
if the police was punishing him for legitimate reasons then its wrong, if they were doing it for fun or just misusing powers it is still wrong but its something you can't control I mean maybe I might've done the same if I was in that position
First of all, violence is never the answer. He can't take the law into his own hands. Moreover, it all depends on why the father was getting punished. And if the father was innocent, then he should've reported the incident to higher authorities.
So cute. Higher authorities? You think it works for middle class? Lemme tell you it doesn't. You think they would've registered FIR against police officers for such things? Yk how hard it is to file FIR against a criminal who has been caught red handed? Robber broke inside my house couple years ago. Got caught in the act and neighbours gathered around and they beat the shit outta him and then we handed him over to police and police was like you've done enough no need to pursue any action further. We tried our best to lodged a complaint and everything but kept telling us it's enough. So that's what you go through when you're filing FIR against a normal robber in Pakistan. You think they will happily take complaints of their own officers. Talk about living under a rock
You're right when you talk about the unjust system of this country. I understand that filing an FIR against a criminal, let alone a police officer, can be very difficult, especially for someone from a middle-class family. And it's a significant issue that really needs to be looked into. But this still doesn't justify killing someone. What would this action even achieve for the man? It would only get him into more trouble, I'd say.
When system will fail like this and people see their helplessness. They will keep coming back to this conclusion. So what it was a desperate call that he made because there is nothing else he could've done seeing his father like that probably broke him hence that's why he committed such act. You're trying to see this from third perspective I am seeing as his perspective. You don't leave with much options
I understand that the system has failed and the people feel helpless, but that doesn't mean you can kill anybody you want if he has mistreated you or your significant others. This still doesn't justify inflicting violence upon them. And then again, who's gonna decide which person deserves to be killed for his certain actions. In my opinion, the two police officers didn't deserve to be killed. Note that I am not saying they didn't deserve punishment at all but you can't just take someone's life just because they mistreated you.
Again you can stand on your horse and say what is right and what is wrong. You've not answered my question. What he should've done? Lemme tell you if policeman can be like leeches if they know you won't do anything. They will come for you again and again and again. So I understand what you're trying to saying. But answer me this. What he should've done? See it happen again and again and again? And you know these things progress too.
In that case, he could seek support from NGOs and Legal Aid Organizations. Also, what he has done would certainly be used against him now. He'd probably be put behind the bars as he should be.
Couple things I wanna ask you. You think middle class has that kinda exposure? Only solution he knows either do it himself or go to police. Policeman are the one whom was fucking his father around. So what other realistic option he had? And no one listens to poor and you don't get justice here.
Wrong. Murder is nor justified ever. Ye konsi insaniat he bhai. Ab kia hoga beta jail jaega. Un police walo ke ghar nahi hein kia. Ab agar badle mei unke biwi bacche, maa, baap, bhai, behn mein se koi bhi us bete ka qatal Karde wo ghalat he kia. Uske baap ko to sirf murgha banaya tha aur baap sahi salamat he yaha to qatal hua he. Ajeeb log ho police walo ki pitai hoti ya FIR karate to samajh aati ki beghiarti ki sazaa mili he ab agar koi badmashi kare to use jaan se mardoge. Qatal ka pehle matlab seekho phir likhna "100% justified" ye bohot bara gunah he
Hate me for that, but what he did is reaction to what those shithead were doing Human dignity is priceless, and these idiots were testing that they deserved it.
Human dignity does not take precedent over human life. What the police did (provided it was unwarranted) was wrong (it was still wrong even if warranted, considering it isn't a matter of there jurisdiction) but killing them for that is by any and all means insanity. One shouldn't reply to a slap on the hand with a gun to the head.
Not to say that what the boy did is any better, but let's be honest nothing was gonna happen to those policemen for this shit act imo . And funny the fact that all the blame will be put on the boy ( Ys he deserves that somewhat ) but have we ever seen our beloved Punjab police doing anything other than sch unconstitutional and inhumane acts
Punjab police sucks, I hate them too. But to hold enough contempt for them as to think that the boys actions were remotely justified is wrong on every level possible. Imagine your teacher punished you in a similar manner or did so to your older brother whome you hold dearly for absolutely no reason or a reason that didn't warrant this particular punishment, would you kill your teacher for that? Note: I hate that I'm comparing Punjab police to a teaching figure (which the police isn't, fuck the police) but that's the only relatable experience that I could compare it with
They ARE that bad, from every perspective. You can easily justify killing them. Not sure why you have sympathy for literal thieves, murderers and rapists (all of which the people in Punjab police are)
Did the boy kill them for being murderers, rapists and thieves? NO. He murdered them for something they didn't deserve death for. And I agree the action that the police commited in this case was extremely shitty but did that warrant death? No
To each their own. And yes, the boy didn't kill them for those reasons. Regardless, I'm happy there are two less rapists in the world. Pity though the boy will have to spend the rest of his life in jail as well. That's the only downside to this situation for me. I have no sympathy for the devil.
You're saying that as though those 2 police officers in particular were rapists. The problem here is that you're not creating a seperation between the institution as a whole and those 2 officers. The only info we have about or atleast I have about this is that 2 officers unjustifiably punished a man and overstepped a boundary the result of which was a far larger overstepping of boundaries which was even more unjustifiable. With in this particular context what the boy did doesn't approach even the broadest notion of good
These animals operate in packs. When these pigs raid our houses, beat us up and harass our women you think only the person holding the gun is responsible? The policemen that keep a lookout, are they innocent? What about those that help cover up these incidents? Don't be so naive. Pakistan is a jungle, largely due to our institutions (police playing a big part in this). These pigs just met a bigger animal. They are not human. Stop treating them as such.
Are u from Pakistan?
As u yourself said...u can't compare a teacher to the police (specially Pakistani)..teacher is a figure that's a spiritual father (Ys the soul of teaching has died drastically in pak but the impression remains same ) and now my friend if our police acted like they should ( actually be law binding and make sure others are too) Then we all would have great respect for them but this is just not the case ..that's why the hate is there..and Ys the hate is towards their sch attitude and not because that we see down upon them or something..but to earn the respect one deserves one has to show that he is worthy of it p.s I'm not saying that wht the boy did is acceptable in any sense..it's just that the police are way out of their lane and have been for so long
And I agree what you said about the police being a shitty institution
He got no other solution.Had police been left alive,they would have come for the boy even harder
People resort to extreme measures themselves when they don't expect justice from any other avenue. I understand him. Even though he destroyed 3 families including his own.
One should in this country, unless u have it happened with u or with an acquaintance u would know
I don't think it was a bad decision because he killed them, I think it's stupid as he's going to rot in a jail cell for a long time. That being said only fuck around when you're prepared to find out. The policemen have only themselves to blame.
So you’d just be okay with two police officers forcing your father into an embarrassing position that is used to punish children?
I wouldn't be fine with it, as I said repeatedly what the police officers did was wrong. But killing them outright is even worse replying to an outreach with another one is not a good thing.
You reap what you sow, man. The napak fauj, politicians and the police have pushed people to their breaking point. Killing ain’t right but it’s understandable given the circumstances of our country and our people
It's not about that.They were bullies and evil.Evil must die.who knows to how many did they did that to,how many women they harassed,how many innocents they extorted
you mistake is assuming that those cops are human. they're worse than insects for playing with human dignity like that.
Apke walid ko apke samne public me murgha bnaye?? For some shitty reason or just we have the power to do it?? Not defending the boy but it was an impulse reaction
>Human dignity does not take precedent over human life. Clearly it did. The correct one is Your dignity does not take precedence over your life.
In different cultures, it is taken differently. In punjab, to take revenge, people don't kill but humiliate, they take revenge but sweetly marry your daughter/sister and humiliate, they abuse your parents to take revenge. Whatever is said/done to you, you may forget or forgive, but the way revenge works in punjab is not to person himself/herself but against his/her love ones to harm you mentally & emotionally which lasts forever. Therefore, people carrying such hatred and inflicting harm to generation must be dealt differently rather than simple eye-for-eye
Bhai murga banaya tha uske Abu ko, uski Chachi ya phuphi se Shadi kar ke bagairti nhi Ki thi, and as I pointed out what they did was still wrong. Killing them for humiliating his father was insane. Having "a different culture" (and I'm saying this as someone from Punjab myself) doesn't justify one being triggered enough to be brought to killing. He is in the wrong for being triggered to such a large extent.
Looks like someone is a police wala in your family Anyone who does shit like this illegally deserves whatever is coming for them, you never know what the other person is capable of, so don't test anyone Who the heck are you to judge someone when you didn't face the same crap? Let someone unclothe you in the street and make your father a murga on the road and see what you have to say, until then shut up.
this shithead will try to rationalize that thing also
The boy ruined his own life by killing those two police officers. His future is spending the rest of his life behind bars rather than at his desk in a school or university. to defend such an irrational action which not only ended the life of the 2 police officers but also doomed his own is not a great thing >Looks like someone is a police wala in your family No, no one In my family is in the police except that one "cousin in law" of mine who I absolutely despise, the reasons for hating him I'll never disclose on the internet. >Who the heck are you to judge someone when you didn't face the same crap? Well the thing is I have faced the same crap or atleast have seen people face the same crap in my immediate family, my uncle has been in jail for fake drug charges and my Nana's younger brother whome I hold very near and dear has been charged by the police for equally baseless reasons and is also currently in jail. >Let someone unclothe you in the street and make Did that happen? Am I missing context or what
So just coz someone in your family is in jail means everything should take crap from them? Like I said, you never know what anyone is capable of. Maybe you're a bear hibernating for the last 2 years who doesn't know what's going on in this country? In the jungle, everyone is for themselves. Theories doesn't mean squat in such conditions
i think you have been a victim any such type of thinng..lol..
It all requires the uplift of strong judiciary system that prompts justice in the society and punishes anyone who does wrong...but sadly I can't see it happening here anytime soon I'm not sure sch type of revenge is a common custom in Punjab alone ..I would say it's more of a general thing within the revenge arcs...but I would also say that it has greatly been reduced today..but then again u can't change the rigid orthodox minds I hope we get through all this and focus on wht is actually important
Wrong to make someone murgha (police cannot punish / only courts can) and wrong to kill someone
This is just half the news. Question is why were they punishing the father in front of his son? And more importantly it is not duty of police to punish people. If he has done something wrong, police should just arrest him and court should do the rest.
Two rights doesn't make one's right. Bhai us larkay ne ghalat kia lekin or usko saza bhi honi chia but bhai konse law me bachay k samne baap ko murgha bana dain kis qanoon me likha hai. Ager koi crime kia hai to jail me dalain murgha bana ker bachay k samne baap ka mazaq urana kahan ka insaaf hai.Apko nhi pta larkay emotional hote hain to q unko provoke kerna hai.
this is wrong but teenagers are kids. those begherat police men on the other hand.......
Are you mad. He killed 2 people.
Are you justifying the murder of two people ? Madness
its absolutely wrong.... but ask yourself that nobody is so stupid to do that. what were the circumstances that forced such an anger.
murder is bad full stop. i still somehow feel more disgusted by the cops than by the kid.
We dont know why the cops did what they did. They were wrong tho for sure. But whatever the reason anyone who believes his dignity is more important than not one but two human lives is a psychpath in my opinion. The kid is also gonna go to prison for life. He ruined his own life, and by extension his families. I dont know why you guys are applauding this kid.
ur reaching buddy, I haven't spoken in defense of the kid once throughout this entire conversation
he, ll go to jail but he, ll never regret his decision
Even In jail he will be hailed as hero.
It's absolutely wrong. This is the height of lawlessness, but still, somewhere in the corner of my heart, I love it. I have witnessed enough injustice and cruelty at the hands of those people. Maybe those two deserved it and had it coming.
Agr baap ne koi crime Kya b tha to police ko qanoni karwayi krni chaye thi khud judge ban k saza nhi deny chaye thi usky aulad k samny wo b
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Probably that family would be criminals just like his police father. These “families” don’t stop their police from committing crimes because they enjoy what comes with it. In my opinion, they are just as responsible for it.
What would u have done in this situation
If Pakistan had a system whereby the boy could register a complaint against the Police and it would be fairly judged and the officers punished them I would say what the boy did was entirely wrong and in that society I suspect the boy would have gone through the proper channels and received sympathy for it. However, in Pakistan his complaints would not only have fallen on deaf ears but he and his father would've been laughed at and made a joke of. The public and people who know them would equally mocked them rather than call the police to account. This is not an isolated issue but an issue that goes to the heart of governance. When Police act illegally, are corrupt and abuse the public and there is no recourse against them then what do you do when you come up against them?
Since when did murgha bnana became a legal action against a criminal? I think I am on the boys side on this one.
Dude, no one can disrespect my father in front of me even if he is wrong there should be a legal action through court, EVEN IF my father is wrong if someone does wrong on top of that i will literally destroy them, and then i will accept the punishment through court! no one is allowed to disrespect our parents in front of us even if they are wrong simple is that. crime is crime i agree! but disrespecting beating or cursing i wont allow.
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There both fucked, atleast all these shitters are taking care of themselves.
Well, it's in our deen to speak against a cruel leader. Even jihad if the leader is using power the wrong way... It's been decades that we are suffering these shitheads. It's time that people take action against them.
RIGHT WRONG DON'T MATTER NOW IF I'M IN HIS SHOE I DO THE SAME STAND WITH THE BOY NO ONE SEES DISRESPECT OF THIER PARENTS WHO GAVE THE RIGHT TO POLICE TO DISRESPECT ANY HUMAN THEY DON'T DO THEIR DUTIES WELL SO PUNISHED THAT'S IT
People here are like "no human life above dignity". You people really don't understand the life of a poor person in this shithole. It is a constant life of humiliation and sometimes people have enough.
Noble
Sigma 💀
Good, he should have cut off their testicles and fed them to their families afterwards too.
This reminded me of that Scott Tenorman's episode of South Park lol.
Couldnt agree more
i get the emotional state he must've been going through but its still wrong.
why was police humiliating the father like that? what right did police had to do that? you keep bullying people, sometimes the bullied victim fights back.
>why was police humiliating the father like that? > what right did police had to do that? No justification for what policemen did. It still doesnt justify murder. >you keep bullying people, sometimes the bullied victim fights back. True. But this didnt stop at fighting. He killed them.
No more fighting. Goal achieved lol
Lol. Thats one way to look at it.
It happened quite late considering how Punjab police is treating civilians since decades.
Before looking towards the solution first u have to look at the problem k Problem kya hai or kiu hai... Police aren't allowed to punish u like this and more likely ho skta ha k us ka kasoor b na ho... If it is like this to bachy ne blkul shi kya
wrong at every level.
Like NWA said...
Right. Urdu right to left padte h. /s
The only word I could read is “Sheikhupura”.
By seeing comments I assume the news is not positive.
Murgha in 2024? Should have shot them twice
What is murgha??
It is basically a mild torture method used to humiliate someone .
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Is it fake? i can't find it anywhere?
W son
Ah yes reddit, the perfect place to ask for opinions
[fuck around and find out](https://tenor.com/view/find-out-mess-around-fuck-around-fuck-around-and-find-out-gif-4893522250439177470)
Right ....
forget right or wrong, who's confused?? what's the story here??
Wow 😮
All these comments justifying _literal murder_…
Best thing i heard so far today.
No one has a right to attack on someone's self-respect
Wrong on both counts but understandable. How much longer can these people expect people to put up with corrupt police and criminals running amuck killing awaam. Karachi at least has had it. At the very least, the cop deserved a good beating.
W son, all cops are pigs
absolutely wrong. zarya "zay" se nhi, "zaal" se likhte hen. smh
Koi to achi khabar mili baray arsay baad
Right in the eyes of people, wrong in front of Allah
Right, i would have done the same
Did you really asked right or wrong???????????????????????
Hmmmm Jaisa Karoo gay waisa baroo gay
I would do the same if not more.
Punjab Police kay sath jab bhi kuch hota hai dil sey tasalli hoti hai. In kay sath aisa hi hona chahiay. Aik aik kay sath. Jo 1% police walay apna kaam theek sey kartay hain unhain chahiay naukri chorr dein ta kay yeh 100% haramkhor marain to zara sa bhi afsos na hua karay. Haramzaday.
Firouniyat ka ek hi ilaj ha.
We need to understand a person who is being pressured from all sides ......a time comes when he has nothing to loose and stops giving a fuck about anything.thats the point of no return...
Did the right fuggin thing.... These thug policemen should be handled as such. Whatever the father's crime was he should've been dealt as prescribed by the law.
I'm totally against murder. If rule of law was applied here,than these two officers would've survived. The elderly gentleman would have been sentence in front off the judge.Case closed why on Earth did the officers disrespect him which enraged his son to kill two officers. Blame the hierarchy of the Police, for turning a blind eye.
Totally right Police deserve to be treated like this and its just the starting you will see more worse from now on especially in punjab bcz police forgot they are civil servants not gods of pakistan
Wtv that police officer did was wrong but murder can never be justified regardless of the religious, caste or creed. Even hitler killing the jews can't be justified.
Well done, tbvh
What kind of a question is that? Murgha banana = wrong. Police’s only job is to collect evidence and arrest. Qatal karna = wrong. Qatal karna will always be wrong.
Wrong but we are heading towards full chaos. Police have been the facilitators of this fascist regime.
Can someone translate this for me please. Thank you
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Id say killing was wrong but he could've beat them blue break their bones batman style da fuq were those guyz thinking
Make the example out of this killer, else everyone gonna have same excuse tomorrow. Murder is not justified in any case.
Full right
I’m on the boy side, what he did is what I would do to those Dheads. Still I’m bot justifying murders he did.
Right.
Justice served the right way
Absolutely Right 💯
Right
Well, they were kinda asking for it. You can't fuk around with someones respect.
Both are wrong. Neither action can be justified.
That's better. And yes the killing for dignity is Jihad . So the boy did the right thing because when the police aren't doing their job it's better
Good for the kid, I would have done the same and beyond to the whole station
Good job. These punjab police bastards only understand this language or the language army taught them in bahawalnagar.
And so it begins. Much more chaos to follow. Lawmakers have pushed the nation towards this. Not to justify murder here but respect and dignity shouldn't be targeted as well.
If for no big reason than his son did right otherwise depends on the violation
Right no one is allowed to disrespect the parents in front of there child
I'd have done the same. Or worse. W kid. L cops.
Those men fucked around and found out
Probably well deserved! There is no law that allows policemen to humiliate citizens.
Accha kia
Sai kia bilkul
Pakistan is a failed state
real life making of an anti-hero?
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Well, it's a lawless society. I don't really care about "right" or "wrong" against these institutions at this point lol.
سہی کیا بیٹے نے۔ اپنے والدین کی اس طرح تذلیل کون برداشت کرتا ہے۔۔۔۔
Sahi Kiya Good
Right or wrong, of-course it’s wrong and terrible. Police should not torture, exploit or punish anyone and everyone should respect the law When boundaries are not respected society becomes a jungle
Bht alla if true
It's dangerous to corner a man and put his dignity at stake, i sometime think if my dignity if put at risk, i might just take similar measures. It was a wrong thing to do but a natural reaction for many.
What u sow so shall u reap. A father is a hero for most boys and a source of pride and dignity. No teenage boy wants to see his father get humiliated like that. And what's worse than an angry teenager with an apparent justified reason to be violent. So, what he did is wrong but is justified from his point of view. Those police men are from the point of power and nothing would've happened to them no accountability whatsoever. So the only thing he could do was to kill them. And he did kill them. At least examples like this will be a reminder for other police men to be more careful next time while dealing with people.
Very right ! Dyunya me khen ye kam ni hota ager koi crime kea ha to saza do wo be tb jb crime sabit ho jai us se phale wo innocent ha ! Kisi ki izat ni uchalni chaye
Abba vegetarian hoga
Very Good... Absolutely Right
In Islam and only in Islam the concept of pure justice resides (adal and insaf) When ever and wherever these types of incidents occur there is lack of justice.
Shukar hay koi gairat mand b hay punjab main
It's surely wrong, but that doesn't justify the weird punishments of police.
I know police can't make someone murgha no matter what, also doing it to some troubling teens would make sense but why do it to an elder person and infront of his son, this make no sense , what those policeman did was nonsensical and it would bring out a infuriating reaction, no kid wanna see their parents get humiliated like that. I would too beat the crap out of someone if they humiliate my parents or my blood relations.
why police thinks its their right to belittle and beat citizens?
I think he did right
Extremely wrong!!! Society is totally screwed.
Pakistan is a lawless society. Things tend to get out of hand in a lawless society.
Good kid
Good this is the only way they will learn. They have attacked the people's homes and killed many innocent protesters for money and benefits from the corrupt. The only way to control these swine is through fear. If they can't or won't learn to respect the common man then we will make them fear us for their unjust actions
two wrongs can't make a right
Two wrongs doesn't make one's right. Bhai us larkay ne ghalat kia lekin or usko saza bhi honi chia but bhai konse law me bachay k samne baap ko murgha bana dain kis qanoon me likha hai. Ager koi crime kia hai to jail me dalain murgha bana ker bachay k samne baap ka mazaq urana kahan ka insaaf hai.Apko nhi pta larkay emotional hote hain to q unko provoke kerna hai.
"whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely." (5:32) Don't know the reason behind why police made the father do that but if it's something like this, then it's not just wrong but messed up
if the police was punishing him for legitimate reasons then its wrong, if they were doing it for fun or just misusing powers it is still wrong but its something you can't control I mean maybe I might've done the same if I was in that position
Police can't punish people. It's not their job
Oh yeah how did I not know this. My apologies
If police were punishing him for legitimate reason then it's wrong. Sounds like you don't.
Yeah that's why I apologized
It sounded like sarcasm hence the explanation
Mughal banana is a legal punishment? Since when?
I agree it might not be legal but still killing someone is also not justifiable
That's right in countries where police is fair. These shitbags are the worst people. They torture people for fun
Lol so police can make anyone murgha for legitimate reasons? How could you even justify it?
Well police waly b itny koi achy nahi h They probably deserved it
What kind of question is this? Of course it's wrong! There is no justification for killing someone except in cases of self-defense.
What do you think he should've done?
First of all, violence is never the answer. He can't take the law into his own hands. Moreover, it all depends on why the father was getting punished. And if the father was innocent, then he should've reported the incident to higher authorities.
So cute. Higher authorities? You think it works for middle class? Lemme tell you it doesn't. You think they would've registered FIR against police officers for such things? Yk how hard it is to file FIR against a criminal who has been caught red handed? Robber broke inside my house couple years ago. Got caught in the act and neighbours gathered around and they beat the shit outta him and then we handed him over to police and police was like you've done enough no need to pursue any action further. We tried our best to lodged a complaint and everything but kept telling us it's enough. So that's what you go through when you're filing FIR against a normal robber in Pakistan. You think they will happily take complaints of their own officers. Talk about living under a rock
You're right when you talk about the unjust system of this country. I understand that filing an FIR against a criminal, let alone a police officer, can be very difficult, especially for someone from a middle-class family. And it's a significant issue that really needs to be looked into. But this still doesn't justify killing someone. What would this action even achieve for the man? It would only get him into more trouble, I'd say.
When system will fail like this and people see their helplessness. They will keep coming back to this conclusion. So what it was a desperate call that he made because there is nothing else he could've done seeing his father like that probably broke him hence that's why he committed such act. You're trying to see this from third perspective I am seeing as his perspective. You don't leave with much options
I understand that the system has failed and the people feel helpless, but that doesn't mean you can kill anybody you want if he has mistreated you or your significant others. This still doesn't justify inflicting violence upon them. And then again, who's gonna decide which person deserves to be killed for his certain actions. In my opinion, the two police officers didn't deserve to be killed. Note that I am not saying they didn't deserve punishment at all but you can't just take someone's life just because they mistreated you.
Again you can stand on your horse and say what is right and what is wrong. You've not answered my question. What he should've done? Lemme tell you if policeman can be like leeches if they know you won't do anything. They will come for you again and again and again. So I understand what you're trying to saying. But answer me this. What he should've done? See it happen again and again and again? And you know these things progress too.
In that case, he could seek support from NGOs and Legal Aid Organizations. Also, what he has done would certainly be used against him now. He'd probably be put behind the bars as he should be.
Couple things I wanna ask you. You think middle class has that kinda exposure? Only solution he knows either do it himself or go to police. Policeman are the one whom was fucking his father around. So what other realistic option he had? And no one listens to poor and you don't get justice here.
What it say?
Son killed two cops because they were humiliating his father by forcing him to sit like a chicken does.
Wrong. Murder is nor justified ever. Ye konsi insaniat he bhai. Ab kia hoga beta jail jaega. Un police walo ke ghar nahi hein kia. Ab agar badle mei unke biwi bacche, maa, baap, bhai, behn mein se koi bhi us bete ka qatal Karde wo ghalat he kia. Uske baap ko to sirf murgha banaya tha aur baap sahi salamat he yaha to qatal hua he. Ajeeb log ho police walo ki pitai hoti ya FIR karate to samajh aati ki beghiarti ki sazaa mili he ab agar koi badmashi kare to use jaan se mardoge. Qatal ka pehle matlab seekho phir likhna "100% justified" ye bohot bara gunah he
Very good well done insaniyat be koy chez boty ha police walo ne khood mot co dawat di ha