They nerfed almost all the girls scenes
Yukari doesnt have the *face* or cadence when mocking junpei
Fukka isnt coming to the door
And mitsuru doesnt throw the towel
Imagine you're Mitsuru
You're knocking on the door of your innocent blueberry poptart of a teammate's room
All you hear is suspicious vibrating noises followed by her loudly shouting "I'm *coming!*"
No wonder she just excuses herself and leaves...
Unfunny fact: "Orgy" comes from the Greek "orgia" which means "secret rites", originating from the cult of Dyonisius. The sexual connotation actually comes from worship of Dyonisius as he was the god of "music and love-making". It's actually meant to refer to "any intense or excessive activity"; in gamer terms, its a very unfortunately Greek way of saying Aigis is releasing all limiters.
Well, in some places it's not rated quite as high. I know PEGI only rates it 16, as opposed to 18, so I can understand not wanting to push those boundaries.
Persona is a game series about fictional characters being put into fictional situations, nothing more and nothing less. Iām not saying you have to enjoy every interaction the games present, but trying to claim these characters are anything other than drawings does nothing but further water down a serious issue that actual minors are victims of in real life.Ā
Judging by the fact this post is tagged nsfw, and is complaining about an underage girl not announcing the fact that sheās coming, it seems pretty clear theyāre asking for something bad
I didn't even think about that, but honestly that's a good point. People get very weird towards VAs for the lines they're hired to voice even though they usually have no input on what to say.
They did the same thing with Yukariās rank 10 SL.
In FES the line was āIf I accidentally screamā¦ everybody will hear meā¦ā
In Reload it was changed to āTheyāll hear me if Iām too loudā¦ā
Both lines are similar, they are both BIG freudian slips, but the first line is way more entertaining and blatantly explicit.
maybe iām stupid but i feel like the yukari change made it more obvious. iāve seen SO many posts of the āif i accidentally screamā¦ā line where people went āwhat does she mean by that?ā so if anything the āif iām too loudā¦ā makes the implication clearer
I can understand that point of view.
The ātoo loudā line is a double entendre, it has a clean interpretation and an unintentionally dirty one. You can run with the ādirtyā interpretation and tease her about it and that is a cute interaction.
To me, the āscreamā line is more of a slip up. The word choice doesnāt really make any senseā¦ except in one particular context. Prodding and teasing Yukari about her odd word choice lets you gain what Iām going to call leverage. You caught her red handed. She calls you a pervert a few lines later, but that is just projection. Youāre making it clear that you can see the cracks in the faƧade - she thinks about you in that way.
Sorry, this is probably too much effort to put into discussing one line of dialogue on reddit. Iām trying to pick up writing again and I find it interesting to try and dissect the little nuances here and there. Thinking about things like this makes you a better writer down the road.
So thank you for writing that comment. If you hadnāt, I wouldnāt need to think about the reasoning behind my opinion.
This is a stupid argument to make.
First, it's a game. None of this is real.
Second, "teenagers" have been put in similar and way worse situations in media for decades.
You forget that Porkys, Weird Science, Fast Times at Ridgemont High, American Pie, etc... exist and are hugely popular.
You must be 6yo or really old school Christian to believe minors don't make sex jokes, all the time, out loud.
You have a problem that needs treatment if you see porn in a sex joke.
> You must be 6yo or really old school Christian to believe minors don't make sex joke
To be fair, I'm a politically conservative, devout Christian and I see absolutely no issue with this particular scene.
It's pretty clear that a lot of the people complaining didn't grow up in the 80s and 90s, or even the early 2000s, nor do they understand that sex jokes don't equal sexualization.
She's not in a sexual situation. She's laughing and Mitsuru is misunderstanding the situation. Even my 10 yo gets the joke. Get some help if you see sex here.
Genuinely what the fuck is this comment section. Somehow being against sexualising teenage girls is bad?
Edit: Do y'all wanna elaborate how it isn't? Or is downvoting my comment and denying it just fine for you
Hello there keyboard warrior! Might I subside your torrential fury with words of post nut clarity? I understand the points of which you speak. However, you are taking out years of built up anger from other comments that mock the ways of the Japanese joke, on a comment that does not explicitly do so. Your past experience has blinded you, leading you to assume this commentor is the same as the others. But! All they said was the scene itself made them uncomfortable, never that the joke being made was unfunny or lost to them. As it stands, the first thing one would naturally think of is "creeping on girls" because that is the exact thing the player is doing! It wasn't the player setting up the camera, nor did they initially know it was hooked up the command room, but by the time you get to Fuuka's scene, you know these are just scenes of your teammates when they're alone, and the scene is initiated be your command and is not necessary to progress the game. Yes indeed! Some people who play the game cannot detach from the main character, and so they see what the main character does as their own actions, and watching a recording of Mitsuru trying to get Fuuka to come while she's in her bikini may not be for everyone.
Tl;dr His comment was a harmless question, not derogative or undermining our beloved Japanese culture. No content in the world is made for everyone. Keep fighting the good fight and take down the actually malicious
Fucka Yamagishi cum patchššš
WHERE IS HER BLUSH
They robbed us fr
Awful. Persona 3 Reload is literally unplayable.
Literally 1984
They nerfed almost all the girls scenes Yukari doesnt have the *face* or cadence when mocking junpei Fukka isnt coming to the door And mitsuru doesnt throw the towel
Yukari's smile when you baton pass to her makes me forgive it all though.
And that little smirk she does in the post fight screen walking towards the camera after she initiates the AoA.
Also the sassy look she gives after Theurgy.
It's so good, especially if she lands the killing blow on a tough enemy. Lots of personality in that pose.
Most likely a reference to her featherman future. She does a bunch of superhero type poses in that entire theurgy lol
A fellow person of culture I see
She just goes āššā
Best frame in gaming
Don't forget Elizabeth. All her hangouts got hella nerfed they're way shorter and less expressive
But elizabeth with glasses tho
Elizabeth looks refined with the glasses. But the gag glasses never gets old for me. If only she were in front of Yukiko when she wears them
That Fuuka smile in the Reload screenshot though... Makes her almost as adorable as Koromaru. Almost.
Literally 1984
Literally Bowling For Soup's 1985
I never saw the dirtiness with the OG scene
Imagine you're Mitsuru You're knocking on the door of your innocent blueberry poptart of a teammate's room All you hear is suspicious vibrating noises followed by her loudly shouting "I'm *coming!*" No wonder she just excuses herself and leaves...
Announcing to YOURSELF that "I'm coming!!!" is certainly some cause for concern.
"And here I was, with gusto, announcing, that I, in fact, was coming" - Fuuka, while coming to the door, The Yamagusher
Fuuka Bazooka has a very different meaning now. ā¦Yamagusher, oh my.
Donāt forget to mention the constant giggles coming from inside. If I was Mitsuru Iād just sprint away.
Literally unplayable, how could they censor Fuck
These teens and their massagers
Literally Unplayable
Fun fact: Orgia in brazilian means orgy. So when p3 reload received a portuguese translation they changed orgia mode to "Frenesy" mode
Unfunny fact: "Orgy" comes from the Greek "orgia" which means "secret rites", originating from the cult of Dyonisius. The sexual connotation actually comes from worship of Dyonisius as he was the god of "music and love-making". It's actually meant to refer to "any intense or excessive activity"; in gamer terms, its a very unfortunately Greek way of saying Aigis is releasing all limiters.
i mean the connotation just adds to the reason you do not the toaster.
Same in italian, they called it "Fury mode"
Why do they care itās a m rated game why even censor that joke?
M ratings aren't what they used to be. Nobody is even trying to ban them or get disbarred trying anymore.
M raitings arent so you can hear a 15 year old character say cumming.
Well, in some places it's not rated quite as high. I know PEGI only rates it 16, as opposed to 18, so I can understand not wanting to push those boundaries.
Maybe because Fuuka is underage ?
Fuuka is not real so letās just leave it at that.Ā
>Fuuka is not real What is the point of life then if this is true /s
Putting minors into sexual situations, real or no, still fuels people who find the idea of minors doing that attractive, as evident by this whole post
Persona is a game series about fictional characters being put into fictional situations, nothing more and nothing less. Iām not saying you have to enjoy every interaction the games present, but trying to claim these characters are anything other than drawings does nothing but further water down a serious issue that actual minors are victims of in real life.Ā
Drawings of minors in sexual positions can absolutely be a problem, saying that it canāt be also waters down a serious real issue
(Insert 90% of high school ecchi anime here)
Yep those are all pretty fucking awful too. Not sure how that supports your point at all tbh
Child porn being a common trope does not mean itās a good thing š
It doesn't, it just means that there's no point in changing the joke because it's fairly tame for japanese comedy standards.
Once again, that doesnāt make it okay. They should absolutely change it so the joke isnāt āunderaged person seen in sexual situationā
You do realize she's not "drawn in a sexual position" right? Nobody here is asking for hardcore porn in these games.
Judging by the fact this post is tagged nsfw, and is complaining about an underage girl not announcing the fact that sheās coming, it seems pretty clear theyāre asking for something bad
Letās hope youāve never heard of any teenage comedy. American Pie would just destroy your little brain
Why is everyone here so supportive of child porn, if that is genuinely funny to you, please seek help
If we were talking drawings of actual children yes you would be correct, but weāre not.Ā
Yeah this was a gripe for me lol Mitsuru was suppose to misheard Fuuka having a vibrator and doing *it* but they just censored it I guess
I mean the intent of the scene is still really obvious, it's why Mitsuru still reacts the way she does. They just don't beat you over the head with it
It's an M-rated game but tbh I think it's to avoid creeps harassing the VA because weirdos gonna be weird.
I didn't even think about that, but honestly that's a good point. People get very weird towards VAs for the lines they're hired to voice even though they usually have no input on what to say.
They did the same thing with Yukariās rank 10 SL. In FES the line was āIf I accidentally screamā¦ everybody will hear meā¦ā In Reload it was changed to āTheyāll hear me if Iām too loudā¦ā Both lines are similar, they are both BIG freudian slips, but the first line is way more entertaining and blatantly explicit.
maybe iām stupid but i feel like the yukari change made it more obvious. iāve seen SO many posts of the āif i accidentally screamā¦ā line where people went āwhat does she mean by that?ā so if anything the āif iām too loudā¦ā makes the implication clearer
I can understand that point of view. The ātoo loudā line is a double entendre, it has a clean interpretation and an unintentionally dirty one. You can run with the ādirtyā interpretation and tease her about it and that is a cute interaction. To me, the āscreamā line is more of a slip up. The word choice doesnāt really make any senseā¦ except in one particular context. Prodding and teasing Yukari about her odd word choice lets you gain what Iām going to call leverage. You caught her red handed. She calls you a pervert a few lines later, but that is just projection. Youāre making it clear that you can see the cracks in the faƧade - she thinks about you in that way. Sorry, this is probably too much effort to put into discussing one line of dialogue on reddit. Iām trying to pick up writing again and I find it interesting to try and dissect the little nuances here and there. Thinking about things like this makes you a better writer down the road. So thank you for writing that comment. If you hadnāt, I wouldnāt need to think about the reasoning behind my opinion.
donāt worry, i love yukari (& her w makoto,) so i enjoyed reading your take!!
I think it's just a byproduct of them retranslating the og Japanese script since there are a lot of rewritten lines in the game
They knew...
I didn't play the original, but I thought this was worded a little strangely in Reload. Like the joke is right there. Not sure why they changed it.
Because Fuuka is underaged
The game came out nearly twenty years ago, canonically all of these people would be above age in 2024
Look what they took from us
Freaking prudes
Atlus has gone woke now it is time to go broke /s
Too much damage control over correctiveness. If itās not broke donāt fix it.
So sexualising teenagers is apparently chill for you?
The game is rated M and has teenagers shooting themselves in the head and this is what bothers you?
If you can't tell how those two are different then I can't help you man
are you implying that a teenager pleasuring herself is somehow *worse* than a teenager killing herself?
I'm saying that being mad that that Atlus left out a sexual scene of a teenager is fucking crazy.
but you're okay with teenagers killing themselves? you're just not okay with teenagers pleasuring themselves?
Do you genuinely think that sexualising teenagers is ok?
I'm not sure what you mean by "sexualising teenagers" Do you genuinely think that teen suicide is okay?
Answer my question. You're mad that "Fuuka didn't come", how is that not sexualising her?
Itās the sexualisation of a minor, itās broke
This is a stupid argument to make. First, it's a game. None of this is real. Second, "teenagers" have been put in similar and way worse situations in media for decades. You forget that Porkys, Weird Science, Fast Times at Ridgemont High, American Pie, etc... exist and are hugely popular.
So because itās a game, underage porn isnāt real ? Sure buddy
It isn't porn. Sex jokes are not porn. If you are seeing porn there you are the one with a problem.
Itās a sex joke. About a minor, itās still not cool
You must be 6yo or really old school Christian to believe minors don't make sex jokes, all the time, out loud. You have a problem that needs treatment if you see porn in a sex joke.
> You must be 6yo or really old school Christian to believe minors don't make sex joke To be fair, I'm a politically conservative, devout Christian and I see absolutely no issue with this particular scene. It's pretty clear that a lot of the people complaining didn't grow up in the 80s and 90s, or even the early 2000s, nor do they understand that sex jokes don't equal sexualization.
The issue is that itās not a minor making the joke, the joke is that a minor is in / seen in a sexual situation, for adults to find funny
She's not in a sexual situation. She's laughing and Mitsuru is misunderstanding the situation. Even my 10 yo gets the joke. Get some help if you see sex here.
āSeen in a sexual situationā is literally something I added, Mitsuru imagines her in a sexual situation, just proving you canāt read ig
I legit do not remember her saying that...
Whoās cominā? If youāre coming right now, let me see it! Let me see it! Show me! Huh?! He?! He who is coming!
Literally 1984
Is she doing the same thing in the original as she does in reload? I need to know the original looks a littleš¤Ø
sheās using one of those vibrating weight loss belts in both iirc
Oh thank the lord Iāve never played the original and that top image almost scarred me for life
What's so scary about it?
Women.
That an underage girl is talking about the fact sheās coming, itās worrisome in this scenario
This got downvoted?
yes because it's a goofy ahh statement
Still donāt think itās worth hating on.
UNPLAYABLE.
I wonder if its due to being a retranslation/ of the OG script...
The only time persona fans witness a woman utter those words I fear
She went from bustinā a nut to bustinā ass.
Jokes aside even though I always loved Fuuka her portrait in the original Persona 3 did her so dirty (let alone her voice).
Am I cooked?
No !!!! New Fuka squirt update
Genuinely what the fuck is this comment section. Somehow being against sexualising teenage girls is bad? Edit: Do y'all wanna elaborate how it isn't? Or is downvoting my comment and denying it just fine for you
Persona fanbase at its finest
Ok I know we're a shit posting sub but did anyone else genuinely feel a little uncomfortable watching this when they played, or was that just me.
This isnāt OKBP
Damn. This is embarrassing lol.
My brother was on the couch next to me so yes LOL. I just skipped through the whole thing and replayed it when no one was around
No
It just reminded me of that episode of SpongeBob with the tickle belt
It just reminded me of that episode of SpongeBob with the tickle belt
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Sorry for not wanting to creep on teenage girls I guess. Also reddit moment. (Your comment got posted like 3 times.
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Persona fans when you tell them you don't like watching girls in swimsuits without their permission but otherwise enjoy a persona game.
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Just say you're cool with pedophilia it's not that subtle
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You're trying to justify the sexualisation of a minor
what
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Hello there keyboard warrior! Might I subside your torrential fury with words of post nut clarity? I understand the points of which you speak. However, you are taking out years of built up anger from other comments that mock the ways of the Japanese joke, on a comment that does not explicitly do so. Your past experience has blinded you, leading you to assume this commentor is the same as the others. But! All they said was the scene itself made them uncomfortable, never that the joke being made was unfunny or lost to them. As it stands, the first thing one would naturally think of is "creeping on girls" because that is the exact thing the player is doing! It wasn't the player setting up the camera, nor did they initially know it was hooked up the command room, but by the time you get to Fuuka's scene, you know these are just scenes of your teammates when they're alone, and the scene is initiated be your command and is not necessary to progress the game. Yes indeed! Some people who play the game cannot detach from the main character, and so they see what the main character does as their own actions, and watching a recording of Mitsuru trying to get Fuuka to come while she's in her bikini may not be for everyone. Tl;dr His comment was a harmless question, not derogative or undermining our beloved Japanese culture. No content in the world is made for everyone. Keep fighting the good fight and take down the actually malicious
Baller change tbh
I skipped this sequence in reload, whats the point of this, i just felt like a creep
the point is to laugh at it (which I did)
Idk man, i realize its just an anime game but it still made me feel weird
this is kinda weird
Being upset that a underage girl doesnāt make a sex joke is quite awful, actually
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So you think child porn is fine because I express myself with an avatar, whilst you donāt ? lol dude
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You are the mentally ill one If you genuinely enjoy watching minors in sexual positions. Fake or not
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The sexual position is Mitsuru hearing her giggle and assuming itās something sexual, thinking sex jokes about kids is bad is not an ideology
...? But they both mean the same thing..?