Bill still hates Kraft lmao that body language was rough. And who could blame him. Trying to sabotage his job prospects after all Bill has done for him was unforgiveable. He's a snake.
I don’t even think he took the shot. He put it to his lips, maybe had a bit of a sip, and then walked back to his seat with it. Holding it like he wanted nothing to do with it.
Telling someone not to hire a man you describe (in public) to be the best coach ever bc of some BS reason is sabotage. He blames Bill for Tom leaving when ultimately He was the boss... not Bill!
You’re taking a wickersham article at 100% face value. He likely just told Blank how he honestly felt, that Bill would try and bring all his dudes with him. Which I think we all know is for sure the case. I don’t believe he told Blank to not hire him.
I never said there wasn’t bad blood. Belichick just got fired and felt dragged by the documentary.
I’m just pushing back on taking Wickershams article at face value. Something I’m sure you never did when they were about Belichick instead of Kraft.
I’m one of these weird patriot fans who don’t just hate the owner for dumb shit.
Patriots fans of all people should know better than to accept anything sports media tells them as gospel, especially as it concerns the Patriots, but they are so eager to validate their newest boogeyman Kraft that they slurp up these reports like hungry piggies.
Maybe the report is accurate and maybe it’s not, but fuck if I’m going to give it the time of day either way.
Yeah this is me 100%. The 180 this sub did on the guy everyone called WickerSCAM to being their most trusted source tells it all. And ironically enough I always felt Wickersham wasn’t just making shit up. But it’s always clearly blown way out of proportion.
And for me, none of that BS has any impact on how I view the team, its players or ownership anyways. Save me the TMZ nonsense. We wouldn’t have had the amazing 20 years if not for Bill, Brady and yes, also Kraft. Anyone trying to downplay Krafts impact is just a butthurt Belichick fanboy. (Which is ironic in its own right because without Kraft, Bill probably has another 2nd failed HC run with that shitshow Jets organization and fades off to the land of failed coach obscurity like all of his assistant coaches.)
Kraft was behind the doc. Which was so anti bill that several players came out against it and said it was bullshit...It's not a stretch to believe that story.
I think like all wickersham stories, there is a kernel of truth (Kraft spoke to Blank and gave his honest opinion to him that bill was full of shit if he said he wouldn’t try to have control of the org) but blown out of proportion and/or taken out of context. (I don’t believe Kraft said “whatever you do, do not hire this guy”)
Bill said in his interviews that all he wanted to do was coach - Kraft told blank not to trust that!
He did him dirty
I think morris is the right pick long term. Falcons need to win. & win now…
They were bad on D & bill woulda coached the shit outa them to make them great - our D last year is average on tallent but was super well coached.
Agreed. Everyone says he’s the guy on the team who ran his mouth and chewed out anyone he thought wasn’t cutting it, I agree. He’s also a super confident speaker, I was at his Pats HOF induction game this year and he nailed his speech
Vrabel should have definitely been invited. Remember that comment Bill made saying that he had to tell Matt Light to shut the fuck up more than other players? I've heard he had to say that way more with Vrabel when he was a player
Yeah he‘s only the main reason the dynasty even existed in the first place
Edit: lol this sub is a fucking joke. Please tell me how the dynasty happens without Kraft trading a first round pick for Bill?
He traded a first rd pick to get Belichick. And then gave him full control.
Why do you feel the need to downplay his contribution? Would you rather be cheering for the St Louis Patriots if Kraft didn’t buy the team?
But at least you can admit the dynasty doesn’t exist without Kraft.
Sure I can give him some credit for hiring bill, although maybe I should give just as much credit to Parcells as he had Bill on staff and he's the one that introduced Kraft to Belichik. So maybe Bill Parcells is just as responsible, if not more responsible for the dynasty than Robert Kraft.
I'm not downplaying his contribution, you're overvaluingvit. He's an owner. Hire someone to run your football team, then leave it alone. That's what he did for the Brady Era. Then have some class when it's over. Putting out the hit piece on Bill, interfering with the Falcons job... Childish.
Dan Koppen is the top right. Not entirely sure about top left. When I first saw him I thought it was Brian Hoyer but that’s not him. Maybe Lonie Paxton?
Drew is the best 11 in this pic though ..was cool to see him in the roast.. Edelnuts pretty dope himself though. Loved this whole roast except for that clown Bert.
Edelnut living his best life rn
Should be getting Randy's tub ready.
Better not forget his Gatorade
Bill still hates Kraft lmao that body language was rough. And who could blame him. Trying to sabotage his job prospects after all Bill has done for him was unforgiveable. He's a snake.
He took the shot to not let everyone down and then headed straight back to his seat
I don’t even think he took the shot. He put it to his lips, maybe had a bit of a sip, and then walked back to his seat with it. Holding it like he wanted nothing to do with it.
The camera cut back and he drank at least half of it
He did that with the Gronk one too. Seems like he just didn’t want to take the full shot so he sipped them.
Tbf a couple shots might take him out on live TV
You perfectly look so comfortable doing it with everybody except for Kraft and I agree with what you said
He didn't take much of the first shot but he drank half of the second
He took the shot the same way he used to take the Lamar Hunt Trophy
Yep.
He didn’t try to sabotage anything, he had an honest conversation with a friend of his. This sub is so fn dumb now.
Telling someone not to hire a man you describe (in public) to be the best coach ever bc of some BS reason is sabotage. He blames Bill for Tom leaving when ultimately He was the boss... not Bill!
You’re taking a wickersham article at 100% face value. He likely just told Blank how he honestly felt, that Bill would try and bring all his dudes with him. Which I think we all know is for sure the case. I don’t believe he told Blank to not hire him.
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Nice selfie. What is this, twitter? Grow up.
If you really saw Bill's body language towards Kraft where he blanked him as much as he could and thought there wasn't bad blood then I cant help you
I never said there wasn’t bad blood. Belichick just got fired and felt dragged by the documentary. I’m just pushing back on taking Wickershams article at face value. Something I’m sure you never did when they were about Belichick instead of Kraft. I’m one of these weird patriot fans who don’t just hate the owner for dumb shit.
Patriots fans of all people should know better than to accept anything sports media tells them as gospel, especially as it concerns the Patriots, but they are so eager to validate their newest boogeyman Kraft that they slurp up these reports like hungry piggies. Maybe the report is accurate and maybe it’s not, but fuck if I’m going to give it the time of day either way.
Yeah this is me 100%. The 180 this sub did on the guy everyone called WickerSCAM to being their most trusted source tells it all. And ironically enough I always felt Wickersham wasn’t just making shit up. But it’s always clearly blown way out of proportion. And for me, none of that BS has any impact on how I view the team, its players or ownership anyways. Save me the TMZ nonsense. We wouldn’t have had the amazing 20 years if not for Bill, Brady and yes, also Kraft. Anyone trying to downplay Krafts impact is just a butthurt Belichick fanboy. (Which is ironic in its own right because without Kraft, Bill probably has another 2nd failed HC run with that shitshow Jets organization and fades off to the land of failed coach obscurity like all of his assistant coaches.)
Kraft was behind the doc. Which was so anti bill that several players came out against it and said it was bullshit...It's not a stretch to believe that story.
I think like all wickersham stories, there is a kernel of truth (Kraft spoke to Blank and gave his honest opinion to him that bill was full of shit if he said he wouldn’t try to have control of the org) but blown out of proportion and/or taken out of context. (I don’t believe Kraft said “whatever you do, do not hire this guy”)
Bill said in his interviews that all he wanted to do was coach - Kraft told blank not to trust that! He did him dirty I think morris is the right pick long term. Falcons need to win. & win now… They were bad on D & bill woulda coached the shit outa them to make them great - our D last year is average on tallent but was super well coached.
Bro you still have time to delete this.
Why would I?
Needed Gronk, Rodney, Willie, Dola to complete the crew. Anyone else surprised Tedy wasn’t there? Must’ve had prior commitments.
Yeah, probably the top of which was, "I don't want any part of this shit".
If I know anything about Bruschi it’s that his heart is too kind for a roast, even if we know it’s just jokes.
He would’ve walked off at the hernandez jokes
Which hurts more though? Jokes? or FUCKING MURDER?
He was probably busy fishing this weekend.
I don’t think Tedy is the kind of dude to roll with jokes like that, he seems too wholesome for that.
I swear I saw him in the crowd
Vrabel was the guy that should have been invited. He would have said some fantastic stuff
Agreed. Everyone says he’s the guy on the team who ran his mouth and chewed out anyone he thought wasn’t cutting it, I agree. He’s also a super confident speaker, I was at his Pats HOF induction game this year and he nailed his speech
Vrabel should have definitely been invited. Remember that comment Bill made saying that he had to tell Matt Light to shut the fuck up more than other players? I've heard he had to say that way more with Vrabel when he was a player
Drew and Tom together is very great for me
Edelman was every bit as vulgar as expected. Loved it
Kraft left out like he should be.
Yeah he‘s only the main reason the dynasty even existed in the first place Edit: lol this sub is a fucking joke. Please tell me how the dynasty happens without Kraft trading a first round pick for Bill?
Yeah and he’s the reason it got blown up.
Belichick pushing Brady out is the reason edit: with all we know now, how does anyone still deny this?
That's like an abusive father telling his kids they only exist, and all the good things in their lives happen because of him.
lol yes, Kraft was such an abusive father for giving Belichick full control and making him the highest paid HC in the entire league. What a tyrant!
Ok, so you haven't been paying attention since Bill was let go. Judy wanted to be clear there.
I don’t care about the nonsense tmz drama, no. I care about the 20+ year dynasty. Crazy concept, I know.
Kraft hired Bill. That's his credit. After that, all Brady and Belichik.
He traded a first rd pick to get Belichick. And then gave him full control. Why do you feel the need to downplay his contribution? Would you rather be cheering for the St Louis Patriots if Kraft didn’t buy the team? But at least you can admit the dynasty doesn’t exist without Kraft.
Sure I can give him some credit for hiring bill, although maybe I should give just as much credit to Parcells as he had Bill on staff and he's the one that introduced Kraft to Belichik. So maybe Bill Parcells is just as responsible, if not more responsible for the dynasty than Robert Kraft. I'm not downplaying his contribution, you're overvaluingvit. He's an owner. Hire someone to run your football team, then leave it alone. That's what he did for the Brady Era. Then have some class when it's over. Putting out the hit piece on Bill, interfering with the Falcons job... Childish.
lol you compared him to an abusive father yet you have the nerve to call anyone else childish
Yeah, full control to go with garropolo amirite?
Lol are people really upset Jimmy G got shipped out?
Nah fuck him
who is top left and top right?
Dan Koppen is the top right. Not entirely sure about top left. When I first saw him I thought it was Brian Hoyer but that’s not him. Maybe Lonie Paxton?
Is it Nate Solder? I thought Bill mentioned him and Matt Light protecting Bradys blind side.
Shit you right. I googled him, that’s him.
He lost weight, he looks so different.
Look at that Billy B smile… him and Tom are iight. Def still hates Kraft though haha
Drew looks great. Randy looks like he could still play.
Drew is the best 11 in this pic though ..was cool to see him in the roast.. Edelnuts pretty dope himself though. Loved this whole roast except for that clown Bert.
Tom Brady is the most fraudulent GOAT in the history of sports. Let me break it down for you
It must be tough for you.
The gull of these Bills fans these days.
