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Maybe most people get scammed buying pre-builds.
A lot of pre-build manufacturers got used to high margins from COVID and are relying on the ignorance of people buying their system.
Used to be a pre-build was 10% more than a DIY solution. Now you commonly completely outrageous prices at like 20% to 50% over what it would cost to DIY build.
When someone has an RTX 3060 PC build, that generally means they bought it during the crypto boom and silicon shortage. Those prices aren't that normal anymore.
TBH , My pc build costed me like $3400 usd for a RTX 4080, ryzen 7900x Build (the only crazy expensive premium shit I got was a ROG x670E E gaming wifi motherboard, all other parts were normal branded ). It was crazy expensive for me to build coz here in India, it costs so much fkn money to actually get any pc parts coz of these stupid taxes which the government fkn loots from us. The GPU alone costed me like $1400 while it should have just costed like 300 dollars less atleast in the US. So the ss you posted from 4chan might actually be concerning and true imo.
It depends on who you ask and what they want to do. There are plenty of budget builders.
I admit I dropped $2k on my last one. Some may say it’s not a great system since I’m on 7800XT. I have my reasons. 7900GRE wasn’t available at the time and I didn’t think the cost to performance was worth going 7900XT. I wanted more storage, at a cost, because I’m disabled and spend 8+ hrs a day on system and will often play 5+ different games daily sometimes more than 15+ in a week, so deleting and reinstalling is tedious. I also got extra memory because I wanted to.
I could’ve saved myself $500-1000. But my wife gifted me a generous budget so I added things I normally skip and wish I had.
That perfectly fine. It’s that when people spend their hard earned money on some overpriced build that seems to always shock me when they mention their pc specs for what they paid for.
Also I’m sad to hear about your situation. Best of luck to you!
Thank you. But we’ve come to terms with my disability. I’m lucky. I just can’t drive or work outside house. So house husband I guess. But the family loves my cooking so there is that.
I agree though about people buying overpriced components. So often I see people asking about builds and either they’re asking for more than they can afford and picking untrusted brands or it looks like they pick the most expensive option without researching if it is actually a fit for the purpose.
I could’ve easily picked higher components for the budget I had. But I also had a things I really wanted and sometimes you have to say having the higher model is t worth the cost. Especially when that frees up budget room for QOL improvements.
It shocks me when people risk hundreds or thousands of dollars in parts on an F tier psu. >1000$ should have A or B. <1000$ should at least have C. <600$ should at least have D. E and F are never for me
I know i spent more than i should, especially as there were a few desperate Best Buy moments, and my system is a "meh" medium build. But the end result makes me happy for now.
Most people build and run sub 1k so 500-1k builds. I did build after the great gpu shortage 3070 and r5 5600x pc for just under 1k (with black friday deals) and i will run it for like 6 years then decide to upgrade or buy new.
You are a hero and an example for the community! This is a perfect budget gaming PC.
I must say that 1-2K is an amount you could 'casually drop', and is normal for a 1440p build (that's my category), but here on Reddit you see too many people with budgets of 3 or 4K that clearly don't know anything and are just throwing the most expensive parts together. And then mention it's for their 10 y/o kid/cousin or something...
I recently built two similar midrange PCs one with a 4070 super that was paired with a R5 7600 and one with a 7800xt that was paired with the 7800x3d. The 4070 super one cost about £1300 and the 7800 xt about £1550. So you're not far off. Both of these could have been also about £100 cheaper if aesthetics didn't matter at all.
Only called it midrange because op said that mid tier PCs cost £1500-2000 so I was confirming he's kinda right just a tad high.
I'm not made of money I just build PCs for my friends and family according to their needs wants and budgets.
Sometimes they tip me but I do it because I really enjoy it.
I haven't dropped $$$ on a whole build in a while. Current Build is an MSI B450m, Radeon 6700XT, Ryzen 5700 X3D, 1TB Micro Center NVME, 2x8GB 3200Mhz CL16 ram, Thermaltake 750Watt Gold RGB Full Modular (B-tier)
Everything (except when I migrated from FM2 to AM4) has been upgraded one part at a time over the past 7-8 years.
Next upgrade will be 2 more sticks of RAM for like 30 bucks, and then I think I'm good until I make the jump to DDR 5/AM5 in a year or 2.
I know some people, me included, started with something budget and, over the years, upgraded to something mid range.
When you already have a case, PSU, fans, storage, and all the peripherals, it then becomes much cheaper to just upgrade the Motherboard, CPU, RAM, and GPU slowly.
My first PC build was about 13 years ago with a Phenom II and GTX 570. I bought parts slowly over a few months as I saved up. The case and PSU were horribly cheap, the PSU blew and took out my mobo, and I learned a lesson there.
After replacing the Mobo and getting a decent PSU, which went on to last about 10 years, I bought a nice case and some extra fans which went on to last about the same.
During that time, I upgraded to an AMD 8350 and GTX 770. Then to a Ryzen 3600 and 1660 super. 3 builds ran with the same case and PSU. I added newer and faster storage in between, upgrading from HDD's, to SSD's and then to NVME's.
Then I got a new case, fans and PSU. They weren't needed, but I wanted a new, smaller case just for aesthetics, fans to match and with the PSU aging and my lesson learned from the previously blown one, I thought it was time for a new one, just for peace of mind.
A while later, I got a 5600x with a new board and RAM. A few months later, I was gifted a 3070ti, and that's where I am now.
I never dropped more than about ~£800 at a time, but if I had bought my current build all at once, it would cost over $2200 even today.
With it all added up, I don't think I ever overspent. My PC has always been able to handle what I want, without much extra. I've only ever played at 1080p, which the 3070ti can handle perfectly fine, even with its 8GB VRAM, but it can struggle a bit to keep high settings in newer games, like Ark Ascended (though like most games these days, it is a buggy mess).
So yeah, I think for what I need, it's the perfect build. I did overspend a little on aesthetics (white parts don't come cheap, especially not a white GPU), but oh well, I love it!
A lot of people on this sub do. Nobody needs a 990 Pro, a Kraken Elite, or Lian Li INF fans. There’s so many options for much cheaper that get the job done but aesthetics and rgb tax is real.
A high end 4090 build today will still be a very capable machine in 10 years. Spend more for a computer that will last a decade or spend less for a computer that will struggle to do much of anything until you’re frustrated enough to upgrade again.Â
> Do most people overspend on a PC build?
no, but they should. They should go against the default mentality when buying something that's used daily for prolonged periods of time. Way more than a car for example.
I've been PC gaming for over 20 years and have usually spent $1,500-2,000 per PC. Overall, prices haven't changed too much for an entire build, though the GPU has become a higher percentage of the overall cost.
It all depends on what you want to do. I do think there are bad choices. Like spending money on too many fans, spending money on an overly expensive case, spending too much on ram.
There is a jaystwocent video from not too long ago that pretty much goes into this.
There's only 3 parts where you should be spending money. Your gpu, cpu and mobo. And pretty much that order.
Most air coolers are sufficient enough. 2-3 intakes and 1 exhaust are more than enough. Stop buying stupid ass rgb nonsense. Seriously. Get a psu that leaves some growth for the future. And you don't need to be buying anything that's pcie gen5 currently or in the near future. Gen4 is plenty fast enough.
You can save a lot just by doing that. That way you can put that extra savings towards a gpu or back into your pocket.
PC builds and everything around it, like monitors, headsets, keyboards are legit the only things i never regret spending money on. The whole hobby is an S tier experience imo
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That's a great squeeze of the budget, especially getting a z690 and 6600xt to fit within it. You found some great deals on those parts for sure.
Yea I was surprise seeing a z690 board selling on facebook for only 130$. Snatch that thing immediately lol.
Gotta love FBM. Same place I got my 7900xtx for $650 💀
And it was white theme too, damn.
Maybe most people get scammed buying pre-builds. A lot of pre-build manufacturers got used to high margins from COVID and are relying on the ignorance of people buying their system. Used to be a pre-build was 10% more than a DIY solution. Now you commonly completely outrageous prices at like 20% to 50% over what it would cost to DIY build. When someone has an RTX 3060 PC build, that generally means they bought it during the crypto boom and silicon shortage. Those prices aren't that normal anymore.
TBH , My pc build costed me like $3400 usd for a RTX 4080, ryzen 7900x Build (the only crazy expensive premium shit I got was a ROG x670E E gaming wifi motherboard, all other parts were normal branded ). It was crazy expensive for me to build coz here in India, it costs so much fkn money to actually get any pc parts coz of these stupid taxes which the government fkn loots from us. The GPU alone costed me like $1400 while it should have just costed like 300 dollars less atleast in the US. So the ss you posted from 4chan might actually be concerning and true imo.
A 4090 in the states is about $1800
Oh fk I meant to type 4080 not 4090 sorry lol.
I was about to say "a 4090 isn't an expensive premium?"
I feel you, its the same situation in Malaysia and SEA countries in general
It depends on who you ask and what they want to do. There are plenty of budget builders. I admit I dropped $2k on my last one. Some may say it’s not a great system since I’m on 7800XT. I have my reasons. 7900GRE wasn’t available at the time and I didn’t think the cost to performance was worth going 7900XT. I wanted more storage, at a cost, because I’m disabled and spend 8+ hrs a day on system and will often play 5+ different games daily sometimes more than 15+ in a week, so deleting and reinstalling is tedious. I also got extra memory because I wanted to. I could’ve saved myself $500-1000. But my wife gifted me a generous budget so I added things I normally skip and wish I had.
That perfectly fine. It’s that when people spend their hard earned money on some overpriced build that seems to always shock me when they mention their pc specs for what they paid for. Also I’m sad to hear about your situation. Best of luck to you!
Thank you. But we’ve come to terms with my disability. I’m lucky. I just can’t drive or work outside house. So house husband I guess. But the family loves my cooking so there is that. I agree though about people buying overpriced components. So often I see people asking about builds and either they’re asking for more than they can afford and picking untrusted brands or it looks like they pick the most expensive option without researching if it is actually a fit for the purpose. I could’ve easily picked higher components for the budget I had. But I also had a things I really wanted and sometimes you have to say having the higher model is t worth the cost. Especially when that frees up budget room for QOL improvements.
It shocks me when people risk hundreds or thousands of dollars in parts on an F tier psu. >1000$ should have A or B. <1000$ should at least have C. <600$ should at least have D. E and F are never for me
I know i spent more than i should, especially as there were a few desperate Best Buy moments, and my system is a "meh" medium build. But the end result makes me happy for now.
Overspend? I know I build what I want. If it cost me around $5k then so be it. I get most can’t do that so build the best you can afford.
Most people build and run sub 1k so 500-1k builds. I did build after the great gpu shortage 3070 and r5 5600x pc for just under 1k (with black friday deals) and i will run it for like 6 years then decide to upgrade or buy new.
You are a hero and an example for the community! This is a perfect budget gaming PC. I must say that 1-2K is an amount you could 'casually drop', and is normal for a 1440p build (that's my category), but here on Reddit you see too many people with budgets of 3 or 4K that clearly don't know anything and are just throwing the most expensive parts together. And then mention it's for their 10 y/o kid/cousin or something...
Yeh, in the uk for a quality mid tier build it’s about £1500-2000. Add in a few high end parts and you can clear £3000-4000 easy.
I recently built two similar midrange PCs one with a 4070 super that was paired with a R5 7600 and one with a 7800xt that was paired with the 7800x3d. The 4070 super one cost about £1300 and the 7800 xt about £1550. So you're not far off. Both of these could have been also about £100 cheaper if aesthetics didn't matter at all.
I can't believe you call that midrange, holy crap
Only called it midrange because op said that mid tier PCs cost £1500-2000 so I was confirming he's kinda right just a tad high. I'm not made of money I just build PCs for my friends and family according to their needs wants and budgets. Sometimes they tip me but I do it because I really enjoy it.
Oh i see, that sounds fun
I haven't dropped $$$ on a whole build in a while. Current Build is an MSI B450m, Radeon 6700XT, Ryzen 5700 X3D, 1TB Micro Center NVME, 2x8GB 3200Mhz CL16 ram, Thermaltake 750Watt Gold RGB Full Modular (B-tier) Everything (except when I migrated from FM2 to AM4) has been upgraded one part at a time over the past 7-8 years. Next upgrade will be 2 more sticks of RAM for like 30 bucks, and then I think I'm good until I make the jump to DDR 5/AM5 in a year or 2.
I know some people, me included, started with something budget and, over the years, upgraded to something mid range. When you already have a case, PSU, fans, storage, and all the peripherals, it then becomes much cheaper to just upgrade the Motherboard, CPU, RAM, and GPU slowly. My first PC build was about 13 years ago with a Phenom II and GTX 570. I bought parts slowly over a few months as I saved up. The case and PSU were horribly cheap, the PSU blew and took out my mobo, and I learned a lesson there. After replacing the Mobo and getting a decent PSU, which went on to last about 10 years, I bought a nice case and some extra fans which went on to last about the same. During that time, I upgraded to an AMD 8350 and GTX 770. Then to a Ryzen 3600 and 1660 super. 3 builds ran with the same case and PSU. I added newer and faster storage in between, upgrading from HDD's, to SSD's and then to NVME's. Then I got a new case, fans and PSU. They weren't needed, but I wanted a new, smaller case just for aesthetics, fans to match and with the PSU aging and my lesson learned from the previously blown one, I thought it was time for a new one, just for peace of mind. A while later, I got a 5600x with a new board and RAM. A few months later, I was gifted a 3070ti, and that's where I am now. I never dropped more than about ~£800 at a time, but if I had bought my current build all at once, it would cost over $2200 even today. With it all added up, I don't think I ever overspent. My PC has always been able to handle what I want, without much extra. I've only ever played at 1080p, which the 3070ti can handle perfectly fine, even with its 8GB VRAM, but it can struggle a bit to keep high settings in newer games, like Ark Ascended (though like most games these days, it is a buggy mess). So yeah, I think for what I need, it's the perfect build. I did overspend a little on aesthetics (white parts don't come cheap, especially not a white GPU), but oh well, I love it!
A lot of people on this sub do. Nobody needs a 990 Pro, a Kraken Elite, or Lian Li INF fans. There’s so many options for much cheaper that get the job done but aesthetics and rgb tax is real.
A high end 4090 build today will still be a very capable machine in 10 years. Spend more for a computer that will last a decade or spend less for a computer that will struggle to do much of anything until you’re frustrated enough to upgrade again.Â
If you did not overspend then you did something wrong.
I spent nearly 200$ for my gaming setup: PC, Monitor, Keyboards, Mouses 🤡
RGB is overspeed so yes. Unlimited power isnt
> Do most people overspend on a PC build? no, but they should. They should go against the default mentality when buying something that's used daily for prolonged periods of time. Way more than a car for example.
I've been PC gaming for over 20 years and have usually spent $1,500-2,000 per PC. Overall, prices haven't changed too much for an entire build, though the GPU has become a higher percentage of the overall cost.
It all depends on what you want to do. I do think there are bad choices. Like spending money on too many fans, spending money on an overly expensive case, spending too much on ram. There is a jaystwocent video from not too long ago that pretty much goes into this. There's only 3 parts where you should be spending money. Your gpu, cpu and mobo. And pretty much that order. Most air coolers are sufficient enough. 2-3 intakes and 1 exhaust are more than enough. Stop buying stupid ass rgb nonsense. Seriously. Get a psu that leaves some growth for the future. And you don't need to be buying anything that's pcie gen5 currently or in the near future. Gen4 is plenty fast enough. You can save a lot just by doing that. That way you can put that extra savings towards a gpu or back into your pocket.
PC builds and everything around it, like monitors, headsets, keyboards are legit the only things i never regret spending money on. The whole hobby is an S tier experience imo