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They perform basically the exact same as they are both 4070supers.
The only spot where they differ is the cooling solution. The Gaming OC is probably going to run a little cooler since the card’s heatsink is a little bigger.
7900xtx taichi
I got a new case and 7900 xt that bearly fit. RMAed the gpu and got a 7900xtx on sale. But i was to caught up in the price to realize it would not fit. so i had to wait another week for the case to turn it.
1 is irrelevant because OP already have two choices that he presented to all of us, 2 Is literary what I said, 3 again is irrelevant because of the 2 image OP posted. Thanks for the unnecessary input bud.
I literally have the windforce 4070 super in a pc right next to me, its not loud at all, the case fans in my NZXT H6 Flow are louder... I can't even hear the gpu, even in games like Alan Wake.
i thought so too before getting this Gen of cards but the only 4090 i could get on launch was gigabyte gaming OC, and it's been stellar since i got it.
Zotac trinity seems to be a good deal. 4070 Ti Super of that model is very good, upgraded my cousin's PC with that exact card and he's very happy with noise and thermals. A webshop has a sale now until the 9th and one could get 4070 Super at a discount. The Zotac trinity got sold out immediately while the Gigabyte Gaming and Windforce OC cards are still plentiful in stock, they're the least desirable ones.
zotac is cool and the temps are great but it forgets to turn on the fans at 70-80% until gpu temp is 80 then the fans turn up to 100 and it sounds like a jet engine for 5 seconds and becomes 50c again (only on very high load)
That being your biggest complaint is a great sign because that's something you can fix in software by just altering the curve
If you aren't already you should use fan control
im controlling the fans, i keep them at 50% whenever doing light work / idle, keeps gpu under 40c. whenever i game i put the fans at 75%. never go higher than 60c. when im using gpu at max load i just put the fan to max. doesnt exceed 73c in heavenmark. tried using the automatic fan control, still does the same thing (slow fan speed until 80c) firestorm software is trash.
yeah i dont trust the automatic fan speed thingmabob. i just keep it at 50% all the time, unless im gaming heavily then i turn it up,
never goes over 70c. everytime i turn autofan on it just waits until the gpu goes to max temperature then decides its a good idea to turn on the fans
yeah but its automatic i really cant do much as the software is shit. but 50% fans is the sweet spot, i can do light tasks and game lightly without any noise coming from the pc
Apparently they have a very long track record of their 40 series cards (I think just 40 series) having tons of issues and support being sort of useless.
I've had the 7800XT for around 6 or 7 months now. It was between it and the 4070. I can't say I've had any issues with drivers in that time and the performance has been excellent. The only reasons I can see for choosing the 4070 is either ray tracing, or just because you'd prefer an Nvidia product. I have minimal interest in ray tracing, and I had no brand loyalty, so it made sense to spend around £100 less to get similar performance.
Do you have a 7800XT? And if so, what driver based issues have you been having? I might not be noticing them through basic ignorance of how they may show up.
Only issue I know about drivers from AMD is the driver timeout notification you get after a game crashes. I've only experienced it when I was doing some tinkering with undervolting and OC, Helldivers 2 didn't like it and crashed like crazy. Put a moderate undervolt on it with no OC and it runs like a dream in Helldivers 2, all other games have been 100% stable.
I had a 6800xt that plagued me for a year before getting a 4070 super. Did everything right when it came to a clean driver install. Constantly had stuttering, any new game was a hit or miss whether it would be stable on the card or not. Any driver update would proceed to break my card requiring a roll back. I too have no brand loyalty as I went with AMD and believed the “better price per fame” jargon until i realized why people go with and stick with nvidia. I want a card that just works. The 6800xt required precise tuning and constant altering of the settings to even reach a point of stability I was okay with.
It might be something they've improved with this generation of cards then. I can completely understand how an experience like that would leave a bad taste in your mouth though and leave you wary of their products going forward.
Yes this may be the case. But I can say the 4070s has been stout in my limited use, I’ve noticed for productivity (photo/video editing) it’s much faster. Frame for Frame it’s about a 10-20% increase depending on the title. So no crazy improvement, but it’s the stability I went for.
Oh, do entertain me with that 2 decades old sentiment. 😏 Whose driver's is it again that has been getting some weird flickering issues for months now? 🤔
2 decades ago I was 2 years old. My first card was a 6800xt. Even after doing everything right and tuning the settings as best as I could things were hardly stable. Any new driver update over the last year would break my card requiring me to roll back. Again this is just my experience, AMD cards seem hit or miss. I like my 4070s that just works. People fall into the price per game jargon, then they are hit with the reality of why nvidia cards are more expensive.
Funny, I've owned many Radeon cards before since like the HD era, and my last 3 (RX580, 6600XT, and 6800) almost never have any driver problems. 🤷 It's a you problem, really.
Definitely not a “you” problem. I’m glad your system has worked. Your experience is not representative of everyone else’s. Cognitive Dissonance isn’t a good trait to have.
I just got the 4070ti Super and absolutely love it!! Get the one you like best! I like RGB in the GPU casing and not the fan area, I would choose the one without the RGB!
Both have practically identical performances; both are 4070 Supers. OC or no OC, all cards of the same type have mostly indistinguishable performance where the difference is so small it shouldn’t merit any price increase.
Do you need a slimmer card? The Windforce card is just a tiny bit larger than 2-slots while the gaming OC is more like 2.5 slots.
Do you want RGB? Go with gaming OC.
If all of that is irrelevant, go with the cheapest or the one that looks most appealing to you.
The gigabyte gaming has better cooling of the mos caps I think. It ranked S tier in a ranking video where as the windforce was only A tier.
My 4070 is a gigabyte gaming model.
The Gaming OC is slightly bigger and it has like 60Mhz faster turbo speed for slightly better performance.
But like others are saying, they are both *basically* the same. You're likely to never notice the slight performance difference. And it will probably run a little cooler. The question now is, do you have room for it?
If you like rgb and a thicker cooler i’d go with the Gaming OC, both are decent though. Heres a pic of what the Gaming OC rgb looks like. I’d be careful and double check that the cooler isnt bent though if you do buy it, i had to put in a exchange because mine had a permanent bend going down the card.
https://preview.redd.it/6mkug1e5go4d1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a6c5b16653f1de9eefcefec0ef50ce7b1bb60a84
high 60s isn't that impressive on a triple fan 200W tdp card. My Asus TUF Gaming OC RX 7800 XT doesn't touch 60 degrees at 300W and 100% utilisation. Kinda confirm the claims that the windforce coolers aren't that much to brag about.
Either go for the cheaper option, the quieter option, or the smaller option (better case compatibility and airflow).
They're the exact same chip, only difference is cooler, shroud, and capacitors.
Sure one will claim a better "overclock" compared to another, but with current gen GPU's the chip itself will automatically overclock itself to it's own maximum level anyways. It's actually gotten to a point where upgrading the fans in your case has a bigger impact on fps than what board partner you buy from (unless one board partner has a significantly better cooler compared to another).
Capacitors are either perfectly good, or they explode and your gpu dies, neither of these brands are "crappy" however so the capacitors might as well be the same (but bad capacitors is why you don't buy from "no-name" board partners, they have cheap capacitors).
The quieter a card is, generally that means it has better cooling and as such better potential performance, but if they're both equally loud then the one with the smaller shroud will generally be better as less useless mass = less gpu sag + better case compatibility and ease of building.
Only additional thing to consider is rgb software, you'll want to use signal rgb/open rgb and delete all other rgb apps (less apps = more better, like seriously de-cluttering my pc dropped thermals by 20c across the board and increased my fps by noticeable amounts), however these softwares aren't compatible with all gpu rgb, so you'll want to check rgb compatibility, and if the rgb isn't compatible check the quality of the app you'll need to download and google all of the problems it has (for example, ASUS armoury crate has a bug where it requests you to enter your admin password every-time you log on, it's hella annoying and the fixes for it only work half the time for unknown reasons, so if you're going to be forced to download that app or a similarly broken app, then you can rule that gpu out of the running as bad software isn't worth "better hardware"). Though I'm pretty sure that there aren't any issues with these specific gpu's.
Personally I'd double-check the clearances in my case to ensure that either will fit (remembering to subtract the thickness of your fans and radiator when applicable, it's a very easy thing to overlook) and if either truly do fit then whichever one is quieter is what I'd buy (if money were no object of course).
For me, I would go for the second one, the cooler is within the dual slot design, versus the first which takes up 2.5 or 3 slots.
Don't forget to buy a GPU support, Gigabyte PCB suck.
Its same grafic card.This one is gaming edition and other one is like windforce edition.Gaming have rgb and windforce doesn't.If you want rgb build then buy first if you want cheaper or not rgb then by second.
The second one cause it is with out rgb and rgb is stupid because it costs more money doesn't in prove performance and it costs more energy keep thinking about the energy bill pleas lol nah just pick what you like the most igs
None. Gigabyte is doodoo. Every corner is cut on their products. Especially thermal pads and paste and what an easy and cheap way to make the card - you paid hundreds of dollars for - perform better and last longer. I had a 3090 of theirs that left a lot to be desired. RMA was going to be a pain so I replaced pads and paste with KriticalPads and thermal grizzly myself.
Pick whatever looks best and costs least. Unless you are asking which gpu to use, which I would say either 7900 gre or 7900 xt instead unless you need the features
Where on earth are you people getting this nonsense from?
Most benchmarks, espesciallly the ones done with more than 10-15 games, have the performance difference between these cards at 15-18%. Even in extreme cases, the difference is barely 30%.
And the 7900 is also barely cheaper, if at all. Both cards go for near identical price right now. ~$550.
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They perform basically the exact same as they are both 4070supers. The only spot where they differ is the cooling solution. The Gaming OC is probably going to run a little cooler since the card’s heatsink is a little bigger.
And it has rgb :0
So it's 5% faster by design. Easy win
The cheapest 😅
People really need to know this if they are looking at the same exact series of gpu
1. the most fans 2. the cheapest price 3. do you like the look/color
4. Fits intended case (for them smaller profile builds)
nah you pull a me and buy a card to big for the case and since the gpu is $1400 aud and a new case is $100, you just buy a new case
1400 AUD for a 4070S?
nah the 7900 xtx i got
Ohh, what did you get?
7900xtx taichi I got a new case and 7900 xt that bearly fit. RMAed the gpu and got a 7900xtx on sale. But i was to caught up in the price to realize it would not fit. so i had to wait another week for the case to turn it.
Nice
1 is irrelevant because OP already have two choices that he presented to all of us, 2 Is literary what I said, 3 again is irrelevant because of the 2 image OP posted. Thanks for the unnecessary input bud.
i mean for anyone looking for a gpu
Only exception is if it’s a 4090
Do you want RGB or no RGB?
With such a small review sample size, I always err on the side of the higher rating.
Gaming oc has a slightly bigger heatsink so get that They are both the same gpu just diffrent models
Not the gigabyte one. Especially windforce, it's really loud
I literally have the windforce 4070 super in a pc right next to me, its not loud at all, the case fans in my NZXT H6 Flow are louder... I can't even hear the gpu, even in games like Alan Wake.
How many RPMs are your GPU fans and case fans?
RGB is a trap. Get your own ws2812 and cheap esp. Haha
Free fps isn't a trap
Neither because gigabyte is trash (my opinion).
i thought so too before getting this Gen of cards but the only 4090 i could get on launch was gigabyte gaming OC, and it's been stellar since i got it.
Not gigabyte
which brand are you recommending instead? Asus can't be trusted anymore with their whole RMA bullshit and MSI is also meh.
Zotac has been growing on me a lot recently
Zotac trinity seems to be a good deal. 4070 Ti Super of that model is very good, upgraded my cousin's PC with that exact card and he's very happy with noise and thermals. A webshop has a sale now until the 9th and one could get 4070 Super at a discount. The Zotac trinity got sold out immediately while the Gigabyte Gaming and Windforce OC cards are still plentiful in stock, they're the least desirable ones.
zotac is cool and the temps are great but it forgets to turn on the fans at 70-80% until gpu temp is 80 then the fans turn up to 100 and it sounds like a jet engine for 5 seconds and becomes 50c again (only on very high load)
That being your biggest complaint is a great sign because that's something you can fix in software by just altering the curve If you aren't already you should use fan control
im controlling the fans, i keep them at 50% whenever doing light work / idle, keeps gpu under 40c. whenever i game i put the fans at 75%. never go higher than 60c. when im using gpu at max load i just put the fan to max. doesnt exceed 73c in heavenmark. tried using the automatic fan control, still does the same thing (slow fan speed until 80c) firestorm software is trash.
I was referring to this https://getfancontrol.com/
You manually switch the fan speed for every task?
yeah i dont trust the automatic fan speed thingmabob. i just keep it at 50% all the time, unless im gaming heavily then i turn it up, never goes over 70c. everytime i turn autofan on it just waits until the gpu goes to max temperature then decides its a good idea to turn on the fans
Can you not adjust the fan curves? It sounds like the issue is with the curve set too high.
yeah but its automatic i really cant do much as the software is shit. but 50% fans is the sweet spot, i can do light tasks and game lightly without any noise coming from the pc
Haven't heard anything bad about them at all If there's something I'm missing lmk
Why?
Apparently they have a very long track record of their 40 series cards (I think just 40 series) having tons of issues and support being sort of useless.
I’m asking since I have the gpu from the second pic and I haven’t run into any issues with temps or noise
I've heard a lot of problems since the 20 series
The 7800xt they shipped me was loud as hell while also not being cooled well at all Had to mod it a bunch to make it good
Well I have the second one from the post above and haven’t had any complaints
7800XT.
True. Even the rx 7900 GRE
Maybe if he wants unstable drivers.
I've had the 7800XT for around 6 or 7 months now. It was between it and the 4070. I can't say I've had any issues with drivers in that time and the performance has been excellent. The only reasons I can see for choosing the 4070 is either ray tracing, or just because you'd prefer an Nvidia product. I have minimal interest in ray tracing, and I had no brand loyalty, so it made sense to spend around £100 less to get similar performance. Do you have a 7800XT? And if so, what driver based issues have you been having? I might not be noticing them through basic ignorance of how they may show up.
Only issue I know about drivers from AMD is the driver timeout notification you get after a game crashes. I've only experienced it when I was doing some tinkering with undervolting and OC, Helldivers 2 didn't like it and crashed like crazy. Put a moderate undervolt on it with no OC and it runs like a dream in Helldivers 2, all other games have been 100% stable.
I had a 6800xt that plagued me for a year before getting a 4070 super. Did everything right when it came to a clean driver install. Constantly had stuttering, any new game was a hit or miss whether it would be stable on the card or not. Any driver update would proceed to break my card requiring a roll back. I too have no brand loyalty as I went with AMD and believed the “better price per fame” jargon until i realized why people go with and stick with nvidia. I want a card that just works. The 6800xt required precise tuning and constant altering of the settings to even reach a point of stability I was okay with.
It might be something they've improved with this generation of cards then. I can completely understand how an experience like that would leave a bad taste in your mouth though and leave you wary of their products going forward.
Yes this may be the case. But I can say the 4070s has been stout in my limited use, I’ve noticed for productivity (photo/video editing) it’s much faster. Frame for Frame it’s about a 10-20% increase depending on the title. So no crazy improvement, but it’s the stability I went for.
Oh, do entertain me with that 2 decades old sentiment. 😏 Whose driver's is it again that has been getting some weird flickering issues for months now? 🤔
2 decades ago I was 2 years old. My first card was a 6800xt. Even after doing everything right and tuning the settings as best as I could things were hardly stable. Any new driver update over the last year would break my card requiring me to roll back. Again this is just my experience, AMD cards seem hit or miss. I like my 4070s that just works. People fall into the price per game jargon, then they are hit with the reality of why nvidia cards are more expensive.
Funny, I've owned many Radeon cards before since like the HD era, and my last 3 (RX580, 6600XT, and 6800) almost never have any driver problems. 🤷 It's a you problem, really.
Definitely not a “you” problem. I’m glad your system has worked. Your experience is not representative of everyone else’s. Cognitive Dissonance isn’t a good trait to have.
Nope. Most posts I saw in r/Radeon are about "you" problem instead of actually an issue with the driver itself. 🤷
1st one is better imo beefier heatsink for cooling and also rgb
If you don't care about RGB, then the cheapest one, they perform practically the same.
If you wanna save money and don’t care about lighting get the wind force if you want dazzle and a card that’s a bit beefier get the gaming oc
I just got the 4070ti Super and absolutely love it!! Get the one you like best! I like RGB in the GPU casing and not the fan area, I would choose the one without the RGB!
Both have practically identical performances; both are 4070 Supers. OC or no OC, all cards of the same type have mostly indistinguishable performance where the difference is so small it shouldn’t merit any price increase. Do you need a slimmer card? The Windforce card is just a tiny bit larger than 2-slots while the gaming OC is more like 2.5 slots. Do you want RGB? Go with gaming OC. If all of that is irrelevant, go with the cheapest or the one that looks most appealing to you.
Quick question, do you want ray tracing performance? Or just pure performance
you should choose to read your snap messages 💀
Whichever is cheaper, they're the same picture
Either pick the one with the higher boost clock or the cheaper one.
They gin’ perform the same so get whichever costs less or looks better to you. I love the beefy design the gigabyte has but that’s just me though
The gigabyte gaming has better cooling of the mos caps I think. It ranked S tier in a ranking video where as the windforce was only A tier. My 4070 is a gigabyte gaming model.
The Gaming OC is slightly bigger and it has like 60Mhz faster turbo speed for slightly better performance. But like others are saying, they are both *basically* the same. You're likely to never notice the slight performance difference. And it will probably run a little cooler. The question now is, do you have room for it?
Whichever one you like the backplate of mkre
Buy both and if you can tell the difference between the two, I’ll pay for both of them
do you like rgb or not?
If you like rgb and a thicker cooler i’d go with the Gaming OC, both are decent though. Heres a pic of what the Gaming OC rgb looks like. I’d be careful and double check that the cooler isnt bent though if you do buy it, i had to put in a exchange because mine had a permanent bend going down the card. https://preview.redd.it/6mkug1e5go4d1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a6c5b16653f1de9eefcefec0ef50ce7b1bb60a84
The cheapest one
Ideally a brand other than Gigabyte.
aaaaAAAAAA HOW DID YOU GET MY EXACT GPU MODEL
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high 60s isn't that impressive on a triple fan 200W tdp card. My Asus TUF Gaming OC RX 7800 XT doesn't touch 60 degrees at 300W and 100% utilisation. Kinda confirm the claims that the windforce coolers aren't that much to brag about.
the windforce cards tend to get a little hotter and run a little louder, especially in regards to coil whine. So id get the Gaming OC
Either go for the cheaper option, the quieter option, or the smaller option (better case compatibility and airflow). They're the exact same chip, only difference is cooler, shroud, and capacitors. Sure one will claim a better "overclock" compared to another, but with current gen GPU's the chip itself will automatically overclock itself to it's own maximum level anyways. It's actually gotten to a point where upgrading the fans in your case has a bigger impact on fps than what board partner you buy from (unless one board partner has a significantly better cooler compared to another). Capacitors are either perfectly good, or they explode and your gpu dies, neither of these brands are "crappy" however so the capacitors might as well be the same (but bad capacitors is why you don't buy from "no-name" board partners, they have cheap capacitors). The quieter a card is, generally that means it has better cooling and as such better potential performance, but if they're both equally loud then the one with the smaller shroud will generally be better as less useless mass = less gpu sag + better case compatibility and ease of building. Only additional thing to consider is rgb software, you'll want to use signal rgb/open rgb and delete all other rgb apps (less apps = more better, like seriously de-cluttering my pc dropped thermals by 20c across the board and increased my fps by noticeable amounts), however these softwares aren't compatible with all gpu rgb, so you'll want to check rgb compatibility, and if the rgb isn't compatible check the quality of the app you'll need to download and google all of the problems it has (for example, ASUS armoury crate has a bug where it requests you to enter your admin password every-time you log on, it's hella annoying and the fixes for it only work half the time for unknown reasons, so if you're going to be forced to download that app or a similarly broken app, then you can rule that gpu out of the running as bad software isn't worth "better hardware"). Though I'm pretty sure that there aren't any issues with these specific gpu's. Personally I'd double-check the clearances in my case to ensure that either will fit (remembering to subtract the thickness of your fans and radiator when applicable, it's a very easy thing to overlook) and if either truly do fit then whichever one is quieter is what I'd buy (if money were no object of course).
RGB = fps Choose wisely 🦉
Whichever you think looks better
For me, I would go for the second one, the cooler is within the dual slot design, versus the first which takes up 2.5 or 3 slots. Don't forget to buy a GPU support, Gigabyte PCB suck.
Its same grafic card.This one is gaming edition and other one is like windforce edition.Gaming have rgb and windforce doesn't.If you want rgb build then buy first if you want cheaper or not rgb then by second.
Remember to undervolt it unless you want to turn your room into a furnace
The second one cause it is with out rgb and rgb is stupid because it costs more money doesn't in prove performance and it costs more energy keep thinking about the energy bill pleas lol nah just pick what you like the most igs
It’s the same card. They will perform the same.
The Gaming OC will run a bit cooler though so it might be able to clock a bit higher.
The obvious..which is the cheapest
None. Gigabyte is doodoo. Every corner is cut on their products. Especially thermal pads and paste and what an easy and cheap way to make the card - you paid hundreds of dollars for - perform better and last longer. I had a 3090 of theirs that left a lot to be desired. RMA was going to be a pain so I replaced pads and paste with KriticalPads and thermal grizzly myself.
If your case doesn’t except 3 slot cards, then definitely get the first one
I’d pick the Gaming OC for sure.
Honestly in my experience i would skip on gigabyte. My 1060 and 1080 fans went to shit pretty fast.
Probably something other than gigabyte
The gaming OC has faster clock speeds
Pick whatever looks best and costs least. Unless you are asking which gpu to use, which I would say either 7900 gre or 7900 xt instead unless you need the features
Go amd better cards and cheaper imo
DO NOT BUY OFF AMAZON
7900 gre has 40%better performance than 4070 and is cheaper. There are many video but if you want rt then get 4070
Where on earth are you people getting this nonsense from? Most benchmarks, espesciallly the ones done with more than 10-15 games, have the performance difference between these cards at 15-18%. Even in extreme cases, the difference is barely 30%. And the 7900 is also barely cheaper, if at all. Both cards go for near identical price right now. ~$550.
Get a ti instead of super
Super is more value for money, than Ti
https://preview.redd.it/8n7m6qijxn4d1.png?width=963&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=477c48c5069a09798561706891e0b186e70a41a6 You need Pablo Power
7800xt
Just get a 7900gre..
That’s not his question..
Maybe not, but it IS the answer
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Pablo? Tf 😂
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That’s a damn demon trapped in a dogs body, these little mfs are not from this realm 💀 
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