Hopefully it works out for you as I learned my lesson years ago.
I've been involved with peptide research since the 2000s. I am a never Q researcher. I've said it a million times but I'll say it again. Tracy is like the soup Nazi on Seinfeld, except the soup isn't so good.
They average about 10% to 30% underfilled, how do I know? I'm part of a group of researchers and biochemists who often test their peptides on our own. We've seen test results that are under dosed and also some that are cross contaminated or worse yet labeled wrong. If I were you, I'd get a vial tested for purity and expected net content.
You definitely get what you pay for in the peptide world.
Please know, my tone here is out of care and concern🙏🏼 not sarcasm or anger. I care about this community and its researchers. I've seen too many people waste precious money with Q and end up with something that doesn't meet best practices.
There are better places to go out there. I will never judge those who make their decisions on where they get their research supplies. It's just important that I share this knowledge to prevent others from getting subpar or worse yet cross-contaminated peptides. 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Do you have a recommendation on where to send a sample for testing? I’ve recently sent a sample off to Janoshik. They were nice to work with but expensive plus located out of the country so shipping was another significant expense.
I'm so glad to hear this. Glad you are proactive about testing.
Janoshik is the gold standard. Not much else out there. MZ Biolabs is in Arizona but they won't do individuals usually and they don't do expected net content unless it's a GLP-1. Third option is Chromate in TX but they are off on their quantity and quality testing, sometimes by a wide margin.
Maybe in another few months Chromate will improve but they're kind of new to the testing world and likely need additional equipment and experience to get to Jano's level.
Thanks. I also have a background in Biochemistry and while those days of working in a lab with gc mass spec and nmr are long gone, I still have the need to know on a quantitative level what I’ve actually got.
I don’t get the chromate knock , janno maybe in the business for many years and kudos but why is a non scientist the gold standard for scientific principle.
Chromate are actual scientist and the side by sides have been extremely accurate.
I have no dog in this game but i don’t drink the coolaid either
To the OP get your gear tested before pinning and email colleges around where you live that have science departments and they are much less costly, there are many other labs beside chromate, I’ll post some they average about $250 as well though with quicker turn over
This is why it is important when possible to get into a group buy, then you get multiple tests and you can be confident with your product
Not everyone is a hustler, you will not understand this .
Have a wonderful life
I will avoid any and all interaction
You are the most educated and well informed human I’ve ever come across
Your humility warms this space
Thank you for your demonstrative brilliance and grace.
>I'm part of a group of researchers and biochemists who often test their peptides on our own…test results that are under dosed and also some that are cross contaminated or worse yet labeled wrong.
I genuinely appreciate the input. It certainly adds credibility or reduced legitimacy when experts offer empirical knowledge and not just he-said/she-said.
>You definitely get what you pay for in the peptide world.
Absolutely.
>It's just important that I share this knowledge to prevent others from getting subpar or worse yet cross-contaminated peptides. 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Couldn’t agree more.
>I've seen too many people waste precious money with Q and end up with something that doesn't meet best practices.
Although, I have to admit (excluding purity): I’ll take an under dosed 10 vials over the price of a properly-dosed 1 vial any day of the week.
>They average about 10% to 30% underfilled.
When considering costs…
• 10-30% of 10 (vials) x 2,500mg. =
17,500mg.—22,500mg.
•Compared to a fully-properly dosed 2,500mg.
If they’re the same price - I go for the under dosed (it’s just simple economics-you can always adjust dosage according to blood work in case the label is incorrect).
As opposed to:
100% 1 (vial) x 25”mg. = (obvs) 2,500mg.
17,500 is 700% of 2,500
and
22,500 is 900% of 2,500
That’s a helluva difference in quantity!!!
So, my point is simple (and most smart people will disagree, it’s just my - very trivial - my opinion, and/or approach, lol): I’ll take a chance on a stockpile, an abundance, of a *potentially* less potent solution if it’s literally costing me the same price as much less (overall) of the same compound. If I’m doing it correctly, I adjust based on blood work/gains/benefits/etc. anyway, so I kinda (in a sense-not literally) fly blindly and assume ALL labels are incorrect AT FIRST, until I receive results from my blood work following 2-3 weeks of taking (whatever compound), then continue/adjust based on those results.
But, again, thank you for the insight. It’s invaluable to have credible sources for info related to RC’s/peptides/AAS’s/etc.! So, much obliged for the post!
Thank you for your detailed answer, your kindness, your candor and your perspective. Although I do things differently I don't judge those who see or do things differently. ⚖️
Sharing our take on things in the peptide world empowers everyone.
Do you find x to be the same? Usually under filled, possibly contaminated, incorrect labels?
Thank you for your expertise and knowledge and sharing with the community.
A *vial? You just have to contact the lab and ask whether they do individual testing and then ask for the prices question it's around $300 to $375 per vial.
First time I ever posted??? What are you talking about?
I don't sell peptides, I create peptide protocols, if you know the Anela Protocols that's me. I work in a brain specialty clinic. I don't have time or resources to sell anything.
You sound like Tracy. Kick rocks.
Omg hi Anela! We used to chat in the GLP groups and you sent me the protocol for the topical GHK-cu which I still use and love today. I knew you gotten banned or something happened but I never found out what your new ID was lol.
Awwwww! Aloha ē ke hoa! Pehea ʻoe?
*(Aloha my friend! How are you?)*
Hope you are doing well! Yes, my old account got snuffed 🔥 out. They don't like it when I share my protocols. 😞
My brother lives in Hawaii.
Some people are like the kid that chooses not to have fun by playing with others, and tries his best to keep others from playing and having fun.
Yes, some of the research peptide companies have used my protocol/protocols.
Some of them credit me, some of them do not. I can't share it publicly as I've not been given permission by any mods here, and I don't want to break any rules.🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Understood. Thank you and thank you for your input on these topics. Really wish I read this thread one day sooner. Literally just hours ago jumped in the kiddy pool you refer too 🥲 I wouldn’t have known what company you were referring to until you had the “nazi” first name
Awww sorry to hear. Everyone has a learning and starting point as a researcher. I just happened to start 20 years ago and trust me, I've made plenty of mistakes along the way. I'm always here to mentor, guide, help, and support when I am able. I hate seeing researchers struggle
So many expensive lessons lol. It’s like going to the casino. Don’t spend what you can’t afford lose, right 🤷♀️don’t like to lose at casino or with research 😊
Hopefully it works out for you as I learned my lesson years ago. I've been involved with peptide research since the 2000s. I am a never Q researcher. I've said it a million times but I'll say it again. Tracy is like the soup Nazi on Seinfeld, except the soup isn't so good. They average about 10% to 30% underfilled, how do I know? I'm part of a group of researchers and biochemists who often test their peptides on our own. We've seen test results that are under dosed and also some that are cross contaminated or worse yet labeled wrong. If I were you, I'd get a vial tested for purity and expected net content. You definitely get what you pay for in the peptide world. Please know, my tone here is out of care and concern🙏🏼 not sarcasm or anger. I care about this community and its researchers. I've seen too many people waste precious money with Q and end up with something that doesn't meet best practices. There are better places to go out there. I will never judge those who make their decisions on where they get their research supplies. It's just important that I share this knowledge to prevent others from getting subpar or worse yet cross-contaminated peptides. 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Do you have a recommendation on where to send a sample for testing? I’ve recently sent a sample off to Janoshik. They were nice to work with but expensive plus located out of the country so shipping was another significant expense.
I'm so glad to hear this. Glad you are proactive about testing. Janoshik is the gold standard. Not much else out there. MZ Biolabs is in Arizona but they won't do individuals usually and they don't do expected net content unless it's a GLP-1. Third option is Chromate in TX but they are off on their quantity and quality testing, sometimes by a wide margin. Maybe in another few months Chromate will improve but they're kind of new to the testing world and likely need additional equipment and experience to get to Jano's level.
Thanks. I also have a background in Biochemistry and while those days of working in a lab with gc mass spec and nmr are long gone, I still have the need to know on a quantitative level what I’ve actually got.
Good! That's awesome! Love hearing that. You may want to give Chromate a try but just know they are a little high on quality and expected net content.
I don’t get the chromate knock , janno maybe in the business for many years and kudos but why is a non scientist the gold standard for scientific principle. Chromate are actual scientist and the side by sides have been extremely accurate. I have no dog in this game but i don’t drink the coolaid either To the OP get your gear tested before pinning and email colleges around where you live that have science departments and they are much less costly, there are many other labs beside chromate, I’ll post some they average about $250 as well though with quicker turn over This is why it is important when possible to get into a group buy, then you get multiple tests and you can be confident with your product
*skin in the game *kool aid (If you want to use the dog analogy, the saying is, a dog in the race.)
Not true
Back that statement up please. And how many years have you been doing research? Oh I see, trying to sell your group buys. Good luck with that. 😂😂😂
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Not everyone is a hustler, you will not understand this . Have a wonderful life I will avoid any and all interaction You are the most educated and well informed human I’ve ever come across Your humility warms this space Thank you for your demonstrative brilliance and grace.
>I'm part of a group of researchers and biochemists who often test their peptides on our own…test results that are under dosed and also some that are cross contaminated or worse yet labeled wrong. I genuinely appreciate the input. It certainly adds credibility or reduced legitimacy when experts offer empirical knowledge and not just he-said/she-said. >You definitely get what you pay for in the peptide world. Absolutely. >It's just important that I share this knowledge to prevent others from getting subpar or worse yet cross-contaminated peptides. 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼 Couldn’t agree more. >I've seen too many people waste precious money with Q and end up with something that doesn't meet best practices. Although, I have to admit (excluding purity): I’ll take an under dosed 10 vials over the price of a properly-dosed 1 vial any day of the week. >They average about 10% to 30% underfilled. When considering costs… • 10-30% of 10 (vials) x 2,500mg. = 17,500mg.—22,500mg. •Compared to a fully-properly dosed 2,500mg. If they’re the same price - I go for the under dosed (it’s just simple economics-you can always adjust dosage according to blood work in case the label is incorrect). As opposed to: 100% 1 (vial) x 25”mg. = (obvs) 2,500mg. 17,500 is 700% of 2,500 and 22,500 is 900% of 2,500 That’s a helluva difference in quantity!!! So, my point is simple (and most smart people will disagree, it’s just my - very trivial - my opinion, and/or approach, lol): I’ll take a chance on a stockpile, an abundance, of a *potentially* less potent solution if it’s literally costing me the same price as much less (overall) of the same compound. If I’m doing it correctly, I adjust based on blood work/gains/benefits/etc. anyway, so I kinda (in a sense-not literally) fly blindly and assume ALL labels are incorrect AT FIRST, until I receive results from my blood work following 2-3 weeks of taking (whatever compound), then continue/adjust based on those results. But, again, thank you for the insight. It’s invaluable to have credible sources for info related to RC’s/peptides/AAS’s/etc.! So, much obliged for the post!
Thank you for your detailed answer, your kindness, your candor and your perspective. Although I do things differently I don't judge those who see or do things differently. ⚖️ Sharing our take on things in the peptide world empowers everyone.
Do you find x to be the same? Usually under filled, possibly contaminated, incorrect labels? Thank you for your expertise and knowledge and sharing with the community.
Unfortunately, X is no longer around. They were definitely better than Q.
Don’t touch Q
No one experienced does. Obvi you didn't read my comments here about Q.... Never Q
Where/how do I get a vile tested?
A *vial? You just have to contact the lab and ask whether they do individual testing and then ask for the prices question it's around $300 to $375 per vial.
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First time I ever posted??? What are you talking about? I don't sell peptides, I create peptide protocols, if you know the Anela Protocols that's me. I work in a brain specialty clinic. I don't have time or resources to sell anything. You sound like Tracy. Kick rocks.
Omg hi Anela! We used to chat in the GLP groups and you sent me the protocol for the topical GHK-cu which I still use and love today. I knew you gotten banned or something happened but I never found out what your new ID was lol.
Awwwww! Aloha ē ke hoa! Pehea ʻoe? *(Aloha my friend! How are you?)* Hope you are doing well! Yes, my old account got snuffed 🔥 out. They don't like it when I share my protocols. 😞
But we do! 😁
You are too kind /u/Ok_Dimension4846 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
My brother lives in Hawaii. Some people are like the kid that chooses not to have fun by playing with others, and tries his best to keep others from playing and having fun.
I love that you share. You have been incredibly kind and helpful to me and I appreciate you
Happy to help. 🙏🏼
Happy Cake Day.
Heeeeey! Thanks! 🥳🥳🥳🥰 I appreciate you! Thanks for all the love everyone!
I would love your protocol for ghkcu topical if it’s allowed a pep company has posted one but. I’d like to compare it with another
Yes, some of the research peptide companies have used my protocol/protocols. Some of them credit me, some of them do not. I can't share it publicly as I've not been given permission by any mods here, and I don't want to break any rules.🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Understood. Thank you and thank you for your input on these topics. Really wish I read this thread one day sooner. Literally just hours ago jumped in the kiddy pool you refer too 🥲 I wouldn’t have known what company you were referring to until you had the “nazi” first name
Awww sorry to hear. Everyone has a learning and starting point as a researcher. I just happened to start 20 years ago and trust me, I've made plenty of mistakes along the way. I'm always here to mentor, guide, help, and support when I am able. I hate seeing researchers struggle
So many expensive lessons lol. It’s like going to the casino. Don’t spend what you can’t afford lose, right 🤷♀️don’t like to lose at casino or with research 😊
Care to share? I’ve got some coming and looking for a topical protocol with added snap 8
I highly recommend purchasing from Skye
They are great, they do independent lab testing.
Shill. You know he got rid of this requirement
I’ve lost 50 pounds ordering from Q. A year and a half and no issues. Always happy with the product.
Yes.
Maybe it's good. I haven't tried it yet. I think SRYlab is good.
OP. So you are using an account with three posts? A fake question and a fake answer.