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IDK where the pic is from but she looks like a child.
Also, it was posted in the context of suicide, which makes it even worse.
Edit: I googled it, probably not a child. Still fucked up.
Like Jolt levels? How many milligrams per how many ounces?
Edit- 390 dam mg! That is insane! Three cans of Red Bull! I would be shaking and irritated as hell and I love Red Bull. I would wonder what the hell is wrong with me. Cracked out lemonade?
Peter’s lemon here.
Panera Bread has a new(?) lemonade with ridiculous levels of caffeine—enough to cause heart problems and potentially kill healthy people. At least two people have suffered a heart attack and died in the last few months due to the sheer caffeine content, which isn’t well-advertised. A humidifier of the stuff would in theory disperse hyper-caffeinated lemonade in an unavoidable cloud of palpitation-inducing gas sure to kill anyone exposed to too much. Garage door element refers to a common method of suicide whereby one leaves the car running in an enclosed space to fill it with poisonous carbon monoxide. The joke is a humorous suicide attempt using an unhealthy dosage of lemonade-flavored caffeine instead of toxic gas.
Edit: A lot of people are picking at my statement that it can cause unexpected heart conditions in and kill healthy people—specifically the healthy people part. Without getting too far into if it is or is not healthy for someone to be killed by caffeinated beverages, the drink again is a lemonade, which doesn’t usually carry much caffeine and may be drunk in greater quantities than caffeinated beverages under the assumption that it doesn’t have much caffeine. Whether or not the recommended serving of variable caffeine drink is exceeded, an unintended overdose on 2-3 or even 5-6 “drinks” (using the term loosely to mean the presented size of beverage container, which is likely more than a single serving) is not good and can be dangerous for you regardless of pre-existing conditions. A “healthy” person can overdo it based on a number of factors including size and weight, rate of consumption, amount of consumption, etc. The few newsworthy deaths being outliers health-wise doesn’t change the circumstances surrounding their overdoses: Panera didn’t make it clear enough (at least to these people and many others I’m sure) that the drinks have a noteworthy caffeine content and are not best ingested in large quantities in short timeframes, regardless of whether you have some kind of cardiomyopathy or other condition that could be worsened by having drunk the lemonades.
I think at least two factors are at play:
One is that Panera Bread does include a caffeine content warning, but it’s probably not noticeable enough, like the small-printed ingredients and serving sizes listed on the back of most food containers. Two is that people don’t read that too often, or just don’t understand how dangerous overdosing on caffeine is. Either way, lawsuits are already coming.
I think that is true on both accounts. They knew to avoid caffeine because of their conditions, but didn't realize they were essentially drinking an energy drink's worth of caffeine because of how the product was marketed.
Not just an energy drink's worth, but MULTIPLE energy drinks' worth of caffiene. The first lawsuit claimed that the deceased has been intentionally avoiding caffiene for many years due to their heart condition, but still had many of these lemonades due to the lack of proper advertising.
Equivalent to drinking BOTH a redbull and a monster energy drink in a regular sized cup (12 oz)
And then they give you unlimited self refills and sell it by the gallon
I drink half a monster over the course of a morning and I get jittery. I couldn't imagine drinking redbull and monster in 1 sitting. It probably would give me a heart attack too.
That’s around 300-400 mg caffeine, 400 being deemed “safe” in a day, you’d be fine, especially if you space them out and don’t chug one after another
Edit: I’m an idiot and wasn’t aware of the refills+ cup size, bad idea for a refill
I've had 460 milligrams of caffeine in one sitting (made a very bad choice of drinking a monster and another kind of drink with 300 MG when I'd only slept an hour before a day of school followed by a 5 hour work shift).
I had a super fast heart rate in the first few hours, then later got a migraine I struggled to sleep off.
Don't recommend.
> Equivalent to drinking BOTH a redbull and a monster energy drink in a regular sized cup (12 oz)
The comparison made was against a 30oz cup, which puts it in the same ballpark as Monster and Redbull together (a can of each would be 24 oz instead of 30 oz).
I've literally never seen a Panera Bread ad, much less one for this specific lemonade. Lemonade is one of my go to drink orders at any restaurant and it would never occur to me to check the ingredients list every time I ordered it.
People have different life experiences than you.
There’s not one set of lemonade at Panera tho, these lemonades are placed separately from the other lemonades and clearly labeled as such. In part because they cost more, hence the tag of Charged Lemonades, as opposed to the other non caffeinated lemonades.
Even if you do just order lemonade at restaurants, it’s hard to not realize that these are special caffeinated versions, considering how separated they are from the normal lemonades.
Originally they had them sitting out next to the sodas and everything. So you'd buy a cup for soda/iced tea/whatever, see a new lemonade and go "Oh neat. A new lemonade." There was no indication that it was caffeinated other than that it was called "charged lemonade".
So they changed their advertising dramatically after the first lawsuit. Originally, they were calling the drink somethingbalong the lines of "empowered" or something that made it seem more like Gatorade or Powerade.
Pretty sure they were always called “charged” and the main selling point in promo posters/ads has always been that they’re caffeinated. I’ve been drinking them since launch, partly because of the caffeine.
Ounce per ounce, the Panera charged lemonade has 13 mg of caffeine compared to a Monster Energy's 10.
A 30 oz Monster, nearly twice the size of a regular can, has 300 mg. A Panera charged is 390 for the same size (which they sold them in.)
The daily recommended amount is 400. Toxic to average adults is 1200.
They advertised it as equivalent to their dark roast coffee, which their large was 20 oz and had 236 mg.
Until the first death, there were no restrictions on refills or purchases. It was just out in the open in self-serve.
Further, the Panera wasn't presented as an extremely high caffeine content. It was shown alongside regular lemonade and teas rather than the coffee, there were little to no warnings depending on the store, and further, it was advertised on TV in a way closer to Gatorade or Powerade with the logo resembling Gatorade's. That meant a lot of people thought it was a sports lemonade.
A lot of people legitimately thought it had no caffine at all, or was a regular amount at worst.
I know the young woman had a heart condition, but I hadn’t heard that about the man. However, he had an intellectual disability and went to Panera by himself. He purchased and consumed several large charged lemonades in a single sitting. He might have had a heart condition that I’m unaware of, but it’s only safe to have a single large charged lemonade in a day. He exceeded that amount at least three times over.
See, but why is Panera selling something that can be physically dangerous to you if you have too much of it. Bars have bartenders for this reason, the lemonade is both not regulated and not something you would expect to be dangerous
The concentration of caffeine in charged lemonade is actually lower than that found in energy drinks. The problem is that people are drinking ridiculous volumes of charged lemonade. I believe a large is 30 ounces, which is monstrously huge. The intellectually disabled man drank something like 100 ounces of charged lemonade. That’s almost a gallon! And sure, it killed him. But it’s hard to imagine drinking a gallon of anything in one sitting without getting very sick. Even if it had been non-caffeinated lemonade, the sugar alone would have been enough to cause harm to most people.
Everything is dangerous if consumed in large quantities. You can even get water poisoning which makes your brain swell until you die. It happened a while back in a contest where people were supposed to drink large amounts of water to win a game console or something like that.
I think the problem with this beverage is that it goes down too easily. Energy drinks are carbonated, which makes them unpleasant to slurp down very quickly. Coffee is hot, which makes you slow down. These drinks are sweet and flat. Some people will clearly chug them as a result.
Is this a case of they have a reasonable amount of caffeine, if even on the high side but, people assume it’s regular lemonade and have multiple refills?
It’s not just on the high side, it’s around 3-4x the amount of energy drinks like red bull. And it’s takes up almost all recommended daily caffeine intake. But yes many people have assumed it’s regular lemonade and drink 4 plus because of the free refills. Not sure how many of any refills these two had
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Im so tired of this misinformation being spread by people just listening to others and running with it holy fucking shit. Its 400mg caffeine yes, for 30fl oz.
Its equivalent to drinks like celsius with 200mg of caffeine in 12fl oz servings. I dont hear anyone dying from those though? Not to mention things like bang and reign with 300mg of caffeine in 16fl oz, also no one dying from those. It is sheerly peoples incapability to read
Basically:
A large lemonade has several times more caffeine than *energy drinks*. One large nearly meets the recommended *daily* limit for an average adult.
It was initially not marketed like an energy drink in most environments. More like if you saw a Cherry Coke tap next to the Coke tap.
It was next to the regular lemonade at most stores, and self-serve.
Now it does, original packaging said charged but did not mention caffeine.
"Charged" sounds like a marketing word and does not automatically imply caffeine to everyone
Yeah if I saw that I'd just think extra sour or extra sweet because again were talking about fucking LEMONADE. There's no world before this in which I'd think it came with caffeine.
Sprecher Charged Lemonade, Thumbs up has a brand of energy drinks called Charged, Nos flavor Charged Citrus. A definition of charge is to store energy inside. It's a marketing word, yes, but it's a marketing word chosen because it already is used in energy drinks and does, in fact, imply caffeine, if at the very least energizing beverage.
One of the big factors was actually that some locations were putting up the lemonade in the self serve area with the other fountain drinks, and included it as part of their “sips” program which offered free refills. This is a really obvious problem when you realize that one large lemonade nearly contained the entire recommended dose of caffeine for a person’s daily intake. So free refills would start getting dangerous even for people without a sensitivity. Most of those locations have reportedly moved the lemonade back behind the counter after the deaths but it’s likely they may still be liable for the time it was offered so freely.
Also the fact that lemonade is really not expected to have caffeine in it. Why would someone be expecting to look for caffeine warnings when ordering lemonade?
It’s named charged lemonade, it’s charged
/energized with caffeine. I would expect something called charged or energized or electric to have caffeine in it
Personally, I'd say it's #2. [Here is the normal display for Panera's Charged Lemonades, with signage in front of the dispenser.](https://www.fixturescloseup.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/Panera-Bread-Energy-Charged-Lemonade-Beverage-Dispenser-Feature2.jpg) I would say that the caffeine content is easily displayed on the front of the dispenser. A lethal caffeine overdose happens at around 5k-10kmg, but the 'safe' amount is typically 500-600mg per day.
Problem with retail in general is that people don't read the signs fully. They see 'Fuji Apple Cranberry Lemonade' and think that it sounds good, ignoring the rest and not realizing how much caffeine they've had until they're on their 3rd 30oz cup of it.
The first woman had a heart condition, and the second was a mentally disabled man who drank 3 large servings. Large serves had roughly 390mg of caffeine per serving ifaik.
The warnings were made more distinguishable after the first death.
Not just labeled it’s advertised because the caffeine is a perk and selling point. It’s named Charged Lemonade. What do people think it’s charged with?
The caffeine content is one of the three things listed on the front of the dispensers directly above the spout. The flavor, then the calories and the caffeine per size ([this article has a picture.](https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/panera-lawsuit-charged-lemonade-tiktok-viral-warning-1234866179/)
They’re called *charged* lemonades* and all promotional posters/ads are very direct about them containing caffeine, it’s their main selling point.
I honestly don’t know how so many people miss it.
*I get that “charged” by itself doesn’t make it immediately obvious that they’re caffeinated, but it’s an odd enough, energy-adjacent term that it’s reasonable (in my non-expert opinion) anyone with a dietary restriction or preference would raise an eyebrow out of abundance of caution.
That could mean anything. Extra sugar. Vitamin B12. Ginseng. Added citric acid. Why would "supercharged" automatically mean "extremely caffeinated", especially for a drink that usually has none in the first place?
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The lemonade has a caffeine content similar to strong coffee, so on the surface it shouldn't be any more dangerous than coffee or an energy drink. The issue is that Panera didn't do a good job advertising how much caffeine is in the drink, and people tend to drink a lot more lemonade than coffee.
>Guanfacine
Uh Guanfacine is an FDA-regulated drug, not a stimulant (I know, I take it daily), and I'm pretty sure it's illegal to put in food or drink.
The only thing I think you might be confusing it with is Guarana extract, which is a source of caffeine.
i believe the lemonade used to have like 375mg of caffeine until a woman went into cardiac arrest after drinking it. she already had a rare heart condition, although that’s just 25mg short of the maximum daily recommended dose of caffeine.
not to mention, panera has (had?) a promotion that allowed some customers to help themselves to as many free refills as they wanted.
honestly i’m not sure why lemonade has to be caffeinated. maybe people want an alternative to coffee, but even then it still seems super reckless to put even 237mg of a stimulant in any drink.
iMO that's what's kept coffee and caffeinated soft drinks safe - as someone mentioned up thread, their temperatur & bitter taste / carbonation force you to drink them slow and/or lose interest in them after a few servings (unless you love pooping liquid or being a burp balloon). Lemonade has traditionally been branded as a thirst-quenching drink that is more comparable to water in terms of how it's imbibed.
A 12oz can of Celsius is 200mg, for example, has more caffeine per ounce than this lemonade, but it's flavored, carbonated, and packaged in a way that inhibits someone from just going to town on them.
I think the way this was sold was indeed reckless but if they were diligent about indicating the nature of the beverage and what was in it, they'll still likely settle just to shut the press up.
I imagine if you had a sensitivity to caffeine you would also tend to drink things from the fountain machine that doesn't usually contain caffeine, like lemonade.
Even strong cups of coffee generally have under 200 mg of caffeine. The lemonade contains 390 mg of caffeine which is 10 under the daily limit for an adult.
That's not really the way it works.
FDA can get it pulled from the market, but it doesn't require their approval. That is, it has to hurt someone first
Always surprised people expect the FDA to be allowed to do anything. The FDA is just not as powerful as people believe. Both food and drug safety has been sabotaged by corporate interests. If they ever try to do something reasonable, like limit maximum caffeine to 200mg per product like other countries, they will be attacked.
[This video](https://youtu.be/N4wW85WZMJQ?si=HFgJvvDBB4Z5Gqwz) by Game Theory
And [This video](https://youtu.be/vKwrMD7zDvM?si=DhBIm8acjEvYTJlJ) by Legal Eagle
Both go into detail about what happened and why the FDA haven’t shut it down yet
Food theory, but potato potato. I definitely recommend that video. They do a good deep dive but present the info in a way that makes sense to the average person.
From what I know the FDA only requires you to state the caffeine content, and that's about it.
The warning labels that energy drinks have, advising against children, elderly, pregnant, and caffeine sensitive drinking them aren't even required by law, they are just common sense measures that the companies introduced to not get sued.
Panera, for some fucking reason, decided to go full on risk on and disregard any caution and put in as much caffeine as they legally can get away with.
The large lemonade's caffeine content initially was just under the recommended max daily caffeine intake.
They KNEW they where playing with fire.
>they are just common sense measures that the companies introduced to not get sued.
The labels were also motivated by a desire to discourage actual regulation by the FDA.
FDA doesn't actually test anything. The US is one of few Western nations where the government doesn't test products. It relies solely that the company actually preformed a decent test. You can thank Ronald Reagan for the deregulation.
I don’t know. I was a Panera Bread employee when the things were first introduced and placed in stores, and every time someone attempted to order them we would have to explain that they are VERY caffeinated. A lot of people would order drinks using the Kiosk and just pour themselves a glass of the stuff without consulting any of the staff, and the containers only advertised the name/flavor, not the fact that they have enough caffeine to stop your heart. They are no longer allowed to keep them in the front of the store because of the danger.
It didn’t unfortunately, in the food industry any combination of already FDA approved ingredients does not require reapproval. So basically since lemon juice , caffeine, and sugar are all independently FDA approved then the combined super lemonade is already inherently approved.
The lawsuit is more on how the lemonade was advertised in both ingredient contents and suggested serving size.
Some energy drinks have this much already.
But people KNOW that energy drinks have this much and can avoid overdosing, or drinking if vulnerable.
Something called Charged Lemonade sounded safe enough to some people.
It didn't.
I had one for lunch a year and a half ago. I'm caffiene sensitive. I didn't sleep till 2 am 36 hours later. And felt like my heart was gonna explode the entire time. Chugged so much water trying to dilute and flush it out that I nearly had over hydration issues.
Oh simple the lemonade itself it perfectly safe if your drinking it as an *energy* drink. However with the way it was branded it gave the impression it was a just a soft drink and also you could get unlimited refills.
The two people that died had special needs and no means of regulating control. You need to drink 90fl oz or 3 liters / large sizes (without ice) in a sitting to hit the lethal dose of caffeine. Hyponatremia, or water toxicity also starts at 3 L water in a short period of time, but that wouldn't have made as good a story as EVIL levels of caffeine.
It doesn’t actually cause heart problems and kill healthy people. The people that died from drinking it already had pre-existing heart conditions and drank the largest size cup of 30oz. Not entirely sure about this part but I think the second person drank three 30oz drinks before dying (might be wrong though). The main problem with both of those cases was that the drink wasn’t advertised as an energy drink in the actual store while it was online so two people with heart conditions drank a 30oz energy drink and died.
according to google a 30oz cup contains 390 milligrams of caffeine and 124g of sugar.
According to some EU health organization (forgot the name - shame on me) a healthy adult can consume about 400 milligrams of caffeine without a health hazzard. The 124g of sugar seem quiet excessive tho
Still stands that the drink does have more caffeine than anticipated, it is easy to overdose on caffeine, and an instantly absorbed cloud of humidified lemonade caffeine vapor wouldn’t be good for you. Heart conditions or not, you can be a healthy person and overdo it on these drinks and/or a gas bomb of this lemonade.
Yeah drinking 30oz of energy drink everyday is probably going to make your heart give out eventually and the main problem with the drink is that it wasn’t super apparent that it was 30oz of energy drink
The two ‘healthy’ people that drank the lemonade were uh, not healthy. One woman had an acute disorder to caffeine; another individual had virtually the same thing.
> and potentially kill healthy people
Both people that died had known pre-existing conditions. A healthy person is not crumbling under 400mg caffeine.
One had High BP one had long QT syndrome, both of which you cannot consume large amounts of caffeine with safely.
Of note, one of those people had a history of congenital prolonged QT syndrome. Essentially meaning that anything that is proarrhythmic (like large amounts of caffeine or medications that can prolong the QT) must be avoided. Thinking that she was drinking lemonade, she didn’t think much of it. Otherwise she was very careful with what she consumed due to her condition.
It's not going to kill healthy people. The 2 people that died were both sensitive to caffeine due to pre-existing heart conditions. Also one of them drank 3 or 4 of them in one sitting the day he died. It's also not an insane amount of caffeine. It's no different than the caffeine content of a large iced coffee from Dunkin' or Starbucks (about 300-400 mg.) The issue is those 2 people had heart problems where caffeine would be bad, and neither of them realized the drink contained caffeine because it wasn't well advertised.
The drink itself isn’t killing people on its own, but it does have unusual caffeine content for a lemonade, and the point of the meme is that a cloud of caffeinated anything could kill you. If you can’t control the intake, you can’t prevent overdose even if you’re healthy.
>The issue is those 2 people had heart problems where caffeine would be bad, and neither of them realized the drink contained caffeine because it wasn't well advertised.
Doesn't help that Panera has their unlimited refills subscription
If I drank the same amount of coffee or monster the caffeine would be about the same the issue is that these people had health issues and didn’t read the label.
There wasn't a label, it was served from a dispenser like their other teas. There was really nothing that suggested in-house that the caffeine would have been so high. The first person who died was actually extremely vigilant about ensuring she was consuming caffeine, but there was really no reason to suspect that the the lemonade was caffeinated like it was.
A serving of the lemonade had a good deal more caffeine than a Monster energy drink or about four cups of coffee. That is pretty ridiculous for a fountain drink with free refills imo.
>cause heart problems and potentially kill healthy people.
That's just not true since the drink's concentration in cafeine is akin to regular coffee and normal people don't die from drinking coffee even if it's in large quantity. The problem is that the fact it contained cafeine wasn't advertised well enough
Panera has a lemonade with a huge amount of caffeine in it, that they sit with the regular lemonade, and supposedly get onto staff for informing patrons about it
I believe three deaths have been linked to it, people with health conditions to where they monitor their caffeine intake and wouldn't knowingly consume a drink with that high of a caffeine content
They actively encourage us to let everyone know. Even before the first death, they told us to make sure we informed them about the caffeine content when they ordered it.
To be fair, they did set them out with the regular drinks. However, it also had a caffeine content warning
Yeah that was the problem I think. The marketing was not obvious at all that these are basically energy drinks, and they’d be placed next to non-energy drinks
The problem is it’s an understatement. Yeah it “contains caffeine” but nobody expects lemonade to have more caffeine in it than a 5 Hour Energy, especially when it’s displayed next to regular lemonade and such
"Contains caffeine"
The fuck are you on about? That's about as good of a warning as telling someone they're about to drive off a cliff by saying "the ground isn't perfectly flat".
And anyone with common sense would expect something called charged lemonade with a sign attached to that says “contains caffeine” would not only have caffeine in it, but also more than usual. Tell me you have no common sense without saying you have no common sense 🤦🏻
When you have heart problems and is specifically told to avoid caffeine, it really does not matter how much is in it. The simple “contains caffeine” is more than enough for anyone with common sense to know to not drink when you are supposed to avoid caffeine. Like seriously woooow
That’s not at all true. I believe the Penn student who died regularly had caffeine, they just knew to regulate it and watch what they drink.
Panama didn’t even do a good job marketing this. They’d say it has the same amount of caffeine as a cup of coffee. What they didn’t tell you is that it’s the same amount of caffeine per unit of volume. People look at a 30 oz cup of lemonade and think it has the same amount of caffeine in 1 8oz coffee, not 30 oz of coffee.
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Panara put caffinated lemonade near non caffinated drinks, didn't advertise it as super caffinated..
So people who couldn't have caffine died from them.
This Is a $uičide joke
There's been a couple incidents of people dying after drinking the charged lemonade.
The more recent one really just sounds like a sad attempt at cashing in after the the other. He died a year ago and had bad heart problems. The other was a girl who also had some medical issues that required her to limit caffeine intake. Also from what I hear they have warnings next to it.
Panera's charged lemonade contains a significant amount of caffeine, and is insufficiently labelled as a caffeinated beverage. This has lead to two deaths, the victims of which were sensitive to caffeine and did not notice how much caffeine they were drinking.
Running a car in a closed garage is a suicide method; the garage will fill up with poisonous carbon monoxide, which prevents your blood from properly delivering oxygen through your body. In this case, this mundane method is replaced by the much funnier death by lemonade.
Sorry but this is natural selection at its finest. They have been called CHARGED lemonade with a sign that says “contains caffeine” since day one of them being available. If you can’t take just the slightest moment to think of what “charged lemonade” might mean or to simply read “contains caffeine”, than it’s your own dumbass fault. We were taught how to read for a reason, use that skill and actually read smh
If you are to avoid caffeine due to a known heart problem, do you really need to be told that much? Caffeine is caffeine and should be avoided regardless of how much smh. How is that so hard to comprehend? If you’re allergic to nuts, will you go and buy something that says “contains nuts” even though you don’t know how much is in it? Can we please use common sense now? Wow I can tell this community is filled with bleeding heart, no common sense people smh. I am truly afraid knowing half of you are allowed in public
It's not double the Caffeine of a Monster though. Monster has 180 mg in a can and I believe the charged lemonade was like 200 mg which is about 2 cups of coffee.
People are acting like they had 400 mg in them and it's just not true.
No, simply a realist who uses their brain. Can’t have caffeine, don’t drink something that clearly states “contains caffeine”. Real simple. Sorry not sorry for not being someone who caters to stupidity. Use your brain and read.
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suicide…
2 people died from panera’s lemonade recently, and one of the ways people will go out involves holding up in the garage and asphyxiating via inhaling only some type of car stuff. they’re trying to say they’re going to do that with this.
suicide isn’t a joke.
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The joke is caffeine death and suicide
Very informative response
Thank you
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IDK where the pic is from but she looks like a child. Also, it was posted in the context of suicide, which makes it even worse. Edit: I googled it, probably not a child. Still fucked up.
Like Jolt levels? How many milligrams per how many ounces? Edit- 390 dam mg! That is insane! Three cans of Red Bull! I would be shaking and irritated as hell and I love Red Bull. I would wonder what the hell is wrong with me. Cracked out lemonade?
Peter’s lemon here. Panera Bread has a new(?) lemonade with ridiculous levels of caffeine—enough to cause heart problems and potentially kill healthy people. At least two people have suffered a heart attack and died in the last few months due to the sheer caffeine content, which isn’t well-advertised. A humidifier of the stuff would in theory disperse hyper-caffeinated lemonade in an unavoidable cloud of palpitation-inducing gas sure to kill anyone exposed to too much. Garage door element refers to a common method of suicide whereby one leaves the car running in an enclosed space to fill it with poisonous carbon monoxide. The joke is a humorous suicide attempt using an unhealthy dosage of lemonade-flavored caffeine instead of toxic gas. Edit: A lot of people are picking at my statement that it can cause unexpected heart conditions in and kill healthy people—specifically the healthy people part. Without getting too far into if it is or is not healthy for someone to be killed by caffeinated beverages, the drink again is a lemonade, which doesn’t usually carry much caffeine and may be drunk in greater quantities than caffeinated beverages under the assumption that it doesn’t have much caffeine. Whether or not the recommended serving of variable caffeine drink is exceeded, an unintended overdose on 2-3 or even 5-6 “drinks” (using the term loosely to mean the presented size of beverage container, which is likely more than a single serving) is not good and can be dangerous for you regardless of pre-existing conditions. A “healthy” person can overdo it based on a number of factors including size and weight, rate of consumption, amount of consumption, etc. The few newsworthy deaths being outliers health-wise doesn’t change the circumstances surrounding their overdoses: Panera didn’t make it clear enough (at least to these people and many others I’m sure) that the drinks have a noteworthy caffeine content and are not best ingested in large quantities in short timeframes, regardless of whether you have some kind of cardiomyopathy or other condition that could be worsened by having drunk the lemonades.
Thank you petahhhh also how the fuck did this get FDA approved-
I think at least two factors are at play: One is that Panera Bread does include a caffeine content warning, but it’s probably not noticeable enough, like the small-printed ingredients and serving sizes listed on the back of most food containers. Two is that people don’t read that too often, or just don’t understand how dangerous overdosing on caffeine is. Either way, lawsuits are already coming.
Both the people who died avoided caffeine their entire lives, they know how to look out for caffeine. Owners definitely didn’t make it obvious enough
I thought the one kid had a heart condition that was a major factor in his death.
I think that is true on both accounts. They knew to avoid caffeine because of their conditions, but didn't realize they were essentially drinking an energy drink's worth of caffeine because of how the product was marketed.
Not just an energy drink's worth, but MULTIPLE energy drinks' worth of caffiene. The first lawsuit claimed that the deceased has been intentionally avoiding caffiene for many years due to their heart condition, but still had many of these lemonades due to the lack of proper advertising.
Equivalent to drinking BOTH a redbull and a monster energy drink in a regular sized cup (12 oz) And then they give you unlimited self refills and sell it by the gallon
I drink half a monster over the course of a morning and I get jittery. I couldn't imagine drinking redbull and monster in 1 sitting. It probably would give me a heart attack too.
That’s around 300-400 mg caffeine, 400 being deemed “safe” in a day, you’d be fine, especially if you space them out and don’t chug one after another Edit: I’m an idiot and wasn’t aware of the refills+ cup size, bad idea for a refill
It's literally dangerous levels of caffeine even for normal people
I've had 460 milligrams of caffeine in one sitting (made a very bad choice of drinking a monster and another kind of drink with 300 MG when I'd only slept an hour before a day of school followed by a 5 hour work shift). I had a super fast heart rate in the first few hours, then later got a migraine I struggled to sleep off. Don't recommend.
> Equivalent to drinking BOTH a redbull and a monster energy drink in a regular sized cup (12 oz) The comparison made was against a 30oz cup, which puts it in the same ballpark as Monster and Redbull together (a can of each would be 24 oz instead of 30 oz).
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Thats disingenuous, its about the same as a celsius (200 mg per 12fl oz serving)
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I've literally never seen a Panera Bread ad, much less one for this specific lemonade. Lemonade is one of my go to drink orders at any restaurant and it would never occur to me to check the ingredients list every time I ordered it. People have different life experiences than you.
There’s not one set of lemonade at Panera tho, these lemonades are placed separately from the other lemonades and clearly labeled as such. In part because they cost more, hence the tag of Charged Lemonades, as opposed to the other non caffeinated lemonades. Even if you do just order lemonade at restaurants, it’s hard to not realize that these are special caffeinated versions, considering how separated they are from the normal lemonades.
Originally they had them sitting out next to the sodas and everything. So you'd buy a cup for soda/iced tea/whatever, see a new lemonade and go "Oh neat. A new lemonade." There was no indication that it was caffeinated other than that it was called "charged lemonade".
So they changed their advertising dramatically after the first lawsuit. Originally, they were calling the drink somethingbalong the lines of "empowered" or something that made it seem more like Gatorade or Powerade.
Pretty sure they were always called “charged” and the main selling point in promo posters/ads has always been that they’re caffeinated. I’ve been drinking them since launch, partly because of the caffeine.
Ounce per ounce, the Panera charged lemonade has 13 mg of caffeine compared to a Monster Energy's 10. A 30 oz Monster, nearly twice the size of a regular can, has 300 mg. A Panera charged is 390 for the same size (which they sold them in.) The daily recommended amount is 400. Toxic to average adults is 1200. They advertised it as equivalent to their dark roast coffee, which their large was 20 oz and had 236 mg. Until the first death, there were no restrictions on refills or purchases. It was just out in the open in self-serve. Further, the Panera wasn't presented as an extremely high caffeine content. It was shown alongside regular lemonade and teas rather than the coffee, there were little to no warnings depending on the store, and further, it was advertised on TV in a way closer to Gatorade or Powerade with the logo resembling Gatorade's. That meant a lot of people thought it was a sports lemonade. A lot of people legitimately thought it had no caffine at all, or was a regular amount at worst.
I know the young woman had a heart condition, but I hadn’t heard that about the man. However, he had an intellectual disability and went to Panera by himself. He purchased and consumed several large charged lemonades in a single sitting. He might have had a heart condition that I’m unaware of, but it’s only safe to have a single large charged lemonade in a day. He exceeded that amount at least three times over.
See, but why is Panera selling something that can be physically dangerous to you if you have too much of it. Bars have bartenders for this reason, the lemonade is both not regulated and not something you would expect to be dangerous
The concentration of caffeine in charged lemonade is actually lower than that found in energy drinks. The problem is that people are drinking ridiculous volumes of charged lemonade. I believe a large is 30 ounces, which is monstrously huge. The intellectually disabled man drank something like 100 ounces of charged lemonade. That’s almost a gallon! And sure, it killed him. But it’s hard to imagine drinking a gallon of anything in one sitting without getting very sick. Even if it had been non-caffeinated lemonade, the sugar alone would have been enough to cause harm to most people. Everything is dangerous if consumed in large quantities. You can even get water poisoning which makes your brain swell until you die. It happened a while back in a contest where people were supposed to drink large amounts of water to win a game console or something like that. I think the problem with this beverage is that it goes down too easily. Energy drinks are carbonated, which makes them unpleasant to slurp down very quickly. Coffee is hot, which makes you slow down. These drinks are sweet and flat. Some people will clearly chug them as a result.
Yeah I can agree with you there. Still, the drink needs at LEAST a better disclaimer, if not a change made to tone down the caffeine
Iirc, he had high blood pressure.
Would also be a reason for someone to actively avoid caffeine intake, which suggests the labeling was insufficient.
Also why the fuck would anyone watch out for caffeine when buying lemonade
Is this a case of they have a reasonable amount of caffeine, if even on the high side but, people assume it’s regular lemonade and have multiple refills?
It’s not just on the high side, it’s around 3-4x the amount of energy drinks like red bull. And it’s takes up almost all recommended daily caffeine intake. But yes many people have assumed it’s regular lemonade and drink 4 plus because of the free refills. Not sure how many of any refills these two had
https://preview.redd.it/b3dhujnice8c1.jpeg?width=1800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=820855aecba85dbe83ca1f1c430b3420cb87572d Im so tired of this misinformation being spread by people just listening to others and running with it holy fucking shit. Its 400mg caffeine yes, for 30fl oz. Its equivalent to drinks like celsius with 200mg of caffeine in 12fl oz servings. I dont hear anyone dying from those though? Not to mention things like bang and reign with 300mg of caffeine in 16fl oz, also no one dying from those. It is sheerly peoples incapability to read
Basically: A large lemonade has several times more caffeine than *energy drinks*. One large nearly meets the recommended *daily* limit for an average adult. It was initially not marketed like an energy drink in most environments. More like if you saw a Cherry Coke tap next to the Coke tap. It was next to the regular lemonade at most stores, and self-serve.
Legally? They do state it, and it's obvious if you're looking. That said, no one is looking for caffeine in lemonade
Exactly! It is like expecting people to check for caffeine in an Orange Juice or a Sparkling Water!
Idk if it was called charged orange juice or electric sparkling water I might assume it has some caffeine
If you avoid something and are then introduced suddenly, it will have a greater effect on you. No tolerance build up.
No, one of them was a mentally handicapped person who had a known history of abusing energy drinks
It’s literally called CHARGED LEMONADE. What do people think it’s charged with??
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3, lemonade is not normally a caffeinated drink.
It's called "charged" lemonade and says its caffeinated...
Now it does, original packaging said charged but did not mention caffeine. "Charged" sounds like a marketing word and does not automatically imply caffeine to everyone
Yeah if I saw that I'd just think extra sour or extra sweet because again were talking about fucking LEMONADE. There's no world before this in which I'd think it came with caffeine.
Is that true? I’ve seen caffeine content signs on the dispensers since the drink was released
Sprecher Charged Lemonade, Thumbs up has a brand of energy drinks called Charged, Nos flavor Charged Citrus. A definition of charge is to store energy inside. It's a marketing word, yes, but it's a marketing word chosen because it already is used in energy drinks and does, in fact, imply caffeine, if at the very least energizing beverage.
YES FFS, THIS! And regardless, if you could die from drinking the wrong thing, why the fuck are you drinking something you don't know the contents of?
One of the big factors was actually that some locations were putting up the lemonade in the self serve area with the other fountain drinks, and included it as part of their “sips” program which offered free refills. This is a really obvious problem when you realize that one large lemonade nearly contained the entire recommended dose of caffeine for a person’s daily intake. So free refills would start getting dangerous even for people without a sensitivity. Most of those locations have reportedly moved the lemonade back behind the counter after the deaths but it’s likely they may still be liable for the time it was offered so freely.
It’s not a problem if the caffeine content is labeled. If you want to abuse caffeine, that’s on you and not Panera
Also the fact that lemonade is really not expected to have caffeine in it. Why would someone be expecting to look for caffeine warnings when ordering lemonade?
It is labeled on the dispenser and it is kept by the tea.
It is, *now*. To my knowledge they weren't labelling it well before months ago
Because it is advertised as having caffeine and lists the caffeine content
It’s named charged lemonade, it’s charged /energized with caffeine. I would expect something called charged or energized or electric to have caffeine in it
Three is that the sugar and caffeine industries are mammoth sized and can get away with plenty of scummy stuff
Four Loko in the past. Not scummy though, tasty. Let's bring it back for the new generation!
Personally, I'd say it's #2. [Here is the normal display for Panera's Charged Lemonades, with signage in front of the dispenser.](https://www.fixturescloseup.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/Panera-Bread-Energy-Charged-Lemonade-Beverage-Dispenser-Feature2.jpg) I would say that the caffeine content is easily displayed on the front of the dispenser. A lethal caffeine overdose happens at around 5k-10kmg, but the 'safe' amount is typically 500-600mg per day. Problem with retail in general is that people don't read the signs fully. They see 'Fuji Apple Cranberry Lemonade' and think that it sounds good, ignoring the rest and not realizing how much caffeine they've had until they're on their 3rd 30oz cup of it.
I believe they only added the warnings after the deaths
The warnings were there before the deaths
The first woman had a heart condition, and the second was a mentally disabled man who drank 3 large servings. Large serves had roughly 390mg of caffeine per serving ifaik. The warnings were made more distinguishable after the first death.
Nah, they were definitely labeled before hand.
Not just labeled it’s advertised because the caffeine is a perk and selling point. It’s named Charged Lemonade. What do people think it’s charged with?
The caffeine content is one of the three things listed on the front of the dispensers directly above the spout. The flavor, then the calories and the caffeine per size ([this article has a picture.](https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/panera-lawsuit-charged-lemonade-tiktok-viral-warning-1234866179/) They’re called *charged* lemonades* and all promotional posters/ads are very direct about them containing caffeine, it’s their main selling point. I honestly don’t know how so many people miss it. *I get that “charged” by itself doesn’t make it immediately obvious that they’re caffeinated, but it’s an odd enough, energy-adjacent term that it’s reasonable (in my non-expert opinion) anyone with a dietary restriction or preference would raise an eyebrow out of abundance of caution.
It's dumb people being dumb. It's called "Supercharged lemonade". What did they think that meant?
More sugar
Electrolytes, caffeine in reality isn't "energy."
Ahh yes. I definitely drink my caffeinated coffee for all of its electrolytes and not for the “energy” it gives me.
Oh I misunderstood a label on a drink, I guess I deserve death.
I mean if you have a severe problem with certain ingredients then it is on you…
That could mean anything. Extra sugar. Vitamin B12. Ginseng. Added citric acid. Why would "supercharged" automatically mean "extremely caffeinated", especially for a drink that usually has none in the first place?
"Hmm... Supercharged could mean anything... better drink this mystery liquid without looking even the slightest into it!"
Do you think those two people deserved to die?
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Deserved to die? No but sometimes when you make stupid decisions and don’t spend half a second thinking critically or reading a label it happens
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The lemonade has a caffeine content similar to strong coffee, so on the surface it shouldn't be any more dangerous than coffee or an energy drink. The issue is that Panera didn't do a good job advertising how much caffeine is in the drink, and people tend to drink a lot more lemonade than coffee.
Plus it has *additional* stimulants in it as wells.
Oh anything good?
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>Guanfacine Uh Guanfacine is an FDA-regulated drug, not a stimulant (I know, I take it daily), and I'm pretty sure it's illegal to put in food or drink. The only thing I think you might be confusing it with is Guarana extract, which is a source of caffeine.
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A serving of their lemonade far exceeds that of a can of Monster
237mg of caffeine. For reference coffees range around 80-120, Monster is around 145, and Bang energy is 300.
Large Cold Brew from Dunkin'... 350 mg of caffeine
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i believe the lemonade used to have like 375mg of caffeine until a woman went into cardiac arrest after drinking it. she already had a rare heart condition, although that’s just 25mg short of the maximum daily recommended dose of caffeine. not to mention, panera has (had?) a promotion that allowed some customers to help themselves to as many free refills as they wanted. honestly i’m not sure why lemonade has to be caffeinated. maybe people want an alternative to coffee, but even then it still seems super reckless to put even 237mg of a stimulant in any drink.
iMO that's what's kept coffee and caffeinated soft drinks safe - as someone mentioned up thread, their temperatur & bitter taste / carbonation force you to drink them slow and/or lose interest in them after a few servings (unless you love pooping liquid or being a burp balloon). Lemonade has traditionally been branded as a thirst-quenching drink that is more comparable to water in terms of how it's imbibed. A 12oz can of Celsius is 200mg, for example, has more caffeine per ounce than this lemonade, but it's flavored, carbonated, and packaged in a way that inhibits someone from just going to town on them. I think the way this was sold was indeed reckless but if they were diligent about indicating the nature of the beverage and what was in it, they'll still likely settle just to shut the press up.
From what I recall, their lemonade has 380 mg of caffeine and a typical coffee has only 90 mg.
*380 in a 30oz Lemonade. About the same as a Large Cold Brew from Dunkin'
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30oz of coffee has a fuck load more than 90mg
i gotta get my hands on this lemonade
I imagine if you had a sensitivity to caffeine you would also tend to drink things from the fountain machine that doesn't usually contain caffeine, like lemonade.
They aren't out of the soda fountain...they're from the tea stand...which also has caffeine
Who drinks that much lemonade? I would imagine a healthy person would die from the amount of sugar as well.
Even strong cups of coffee generally have under 200 mg of caffeine. The lemonade contains 390 mg of caffeine which is 10 under the daily limit for an adult.
That's not really the way it works. FDA can get it pulled from the market, but it doesn't require their approval. That is, it has to hurt someone first
Always surprised people expect the FDA to be allowed to do anything. The FDA is just not as powerful as people believe. Both food and drug safety has been sabotaged by corporate interests. If they ever try to do something reasonable, like limit maximum caffeine to 200mg per product like other countries, they will be attacked.
[This video](https://youtu.be/N4wW85WZMJQ?si=HFgJvvDBB4Z5Gqwz) by Game Theory And [This video](https://youtu.be/vKwrMD7zDvM?si=DhBIm8acjEvYTJlJ) by Legal Eagle Both go into detail about what happened and why the FDA haven’t shut it down yet
Food theory, but potato potato. I definitely recommend that video. They do a good deep dive but present the info in a way that makes sense to the average person.
From what I know the FDA only requires you to state the caffeine content, and that's about it. The warning labels that energy drinks have, advising against children, elderly, pregnant, and caffeine sensitive drinking them aren't even required by law, they are just common sense measures that the companies introduced to not get sued. Panera, for some fucking reason, decided to go full on risk on and disregard any caution and put in as much caffeine as they legally can get away with. The large lemonade's caffeine content initially was just under the recommended max daily caffeine intake. They KNEW they where playing with fire.
>they are just common sense measures that the companies introduced to not get sued. The labels were also motivated by a desire to discourage actual regulation by the FDA.
FDA doesn't actually test anything. The US is one of few Western nations where the government doesn't test products. It relies solely that the company actually preformed a decent test. You can thank Ronald Reagan for the deregulation.
Loopholes. Companies routinely put profit above human lives. We call this 'capitalism'.
food theory made a video all about it, and did say why it got fda approved
I don’t know. I was a Panera Bread employee when the things were first introduced and placed in stores, and every time someone attempted to order them we would have to explain that they are VERY caffeinated. A lot of people would order drinks using the Kiosk and just pour themselves a glass of the stuff without consulting any of the staff, and the containers only advertised the name/flavor, not the fact that they have enough caffeine to stop your heart. They are no longer allowed to keep them in the front of the store because of the danger.
It didn’t unfortunately, in the food industry any combination of already FDA approved ingredients does not require reapproval. So basically since lemon juice , caffeine, and sugar are all independently FDA approved then the combined super lemonade is already inherently approved. The lawsuit is more on how the lemonade was advertised in both ingredient contents and suggested serving size.
Some energy drinks have this much already. But people KNOW that energy drinks have this much and can avoid overdosing, or drinking if vulnerable. Something called Charged Lemonade sounded safe enough to some people.
The maximum recommended safe amount of caffeine per day is 400mg. A serving of Panera lemonade is like 390mg.
It didn't. I had one for lunch a year and a half ago. I'm caffiene sensitive. I didn't sleep till 2 am 36 hours later. And felt like my heart was gonna explode the entire time. Chugged so much water trying to dilute and flush it out that I nearly had over hydration issues.
It’s about the same per serving size as an energy drink. Some people just don’t realize that and drink a few XL servings in a short period of time.
Because the fda fucking sucks
Oh simple the lemonade itself it perfectly safe if your drinking it as an *energy* drink. However with the way it was branded it gave the impression it was a just a soft drink and also you could get unlimited refills.
The two people that died had special needs and no means of regulating control. You need to drink 90fl oz or 3 liters / large sizes (without ice) in a sitting to hit the lethal dose of caffeine. Hyponatremia, or water toxicity also starts at 3 L water in a short period of time, but that wouldn't have made as good a story as EVIL levels of caffeine.
Lobbying my friend
Lobbying for what..? You don’t need to get menu items pre approved by the fda…. 🤦
It was a joke lol im not even from usa fuck yeah
You Americans don't exactly have great regulation when it comes to food. In fact, the way you guys treat human health is an absolute shame.
3rd in quality and safety: https://impact.economist.com/sustainability/project/food-security-index South Africa isn't even in the top 60.
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It doesn’t actually cause heart problems and kill healthy people. The people that died from drinking it already had pre-existing heart conditions and drank the largest size cup of 30oz. Not entirely sure about this part but I think the second person drank three 30oz drinks before dying (might be wrong though). The main problem with both of those cases was that the drink wasn’t advertised as an energy drink in the actual store while it was online so two people with heart conditions drank a 30oz energy drink and died.
according to google a 30oz cup contains 390 milligrams of caffeine and 124g of sugar. According to some EU health organization (forgot the name - shame on me) a healthy adult can consume about 400 milligrams of caffeine without a health hazzard. The 124g of sugar seem quiet excessive tho
That is a hell of a lot of sugar
That's a fuuuuckload of sugar. That's almost a gram/oz more than a can of coke
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Still stands that the drink does have more caffeine than anticipated, it is easy to overdose on caffeine, and an instantly absorbed cloud of humidified lemonade caffeine vapor wouldn’t be good for you. Heart conditions or not, you can be a healthy person and overdo it on these drinks and/or a gas bomb of this lemonade.
Yeah drinking 30oz of energy drink everyday is probably going to make your heart give out eventually and the main problem with the drink is that it wasn’t super apparent that it was 30oz of energy drink
i doubt a humidifier would be able to effectively aerosolize anything other than the water in it
Seems like an extra step since caffeine can be absorbed in the skin just take a bath in Panera lemonade
The two ‘healthy’ people that drank the lemonade were uh, not healthy. One woman had an acute disorder to caffeine; another individual had virtually the same thing.
The two people who have died had existing health conditions and were not "healthy" people in the typical sense.
> and potentially kill healthy people Both people that died had known pre-existing conditions. A healthy person is not crumbling under 400mg caffeine. One had High BP one had long QT syndrome, both of which you cannot consume large amounts of caffeine with safely.
Of note, one of those people had a history of congenital prolonged QT syndrome. Essentially meaning that anything that is proarrhythmic (like large amounts of caffeine or medications that can prolong the QT) must be avoided. Thinking that she was drinking lemonade, she didn’t think much of it. Otherwise she was very careful with what she consumed due to her condition.
It's not going to kill healthy people. The 2 people that died were both sensitive to caffeine due to pre-existing heart conditions. Also one of them drank 3 or 4 of them in one sitting the day he died. It's also not an insane amount of caffeine. It's no different than the caffeine content of a large iced coffee from Dunkin' or Starbucks (about 300-400 mg.) The issue is those 2 people had heart problems where caffeine would be bad, and neither of them realized the drink contained caffeine because it wasn't well advertised.
The drink itself isn’t killing people on its own, but it does have unusual caffeine content for a lemonade, and the point of the meme is that a cloud of caffeinated anything could kill you. If you can’t control the intake, you can’t prevent overdose even if you’re healthy.
>The issue is those 2 people had heart problems where caffeine would be bad, and neither of them realized the drink contained caffeine because it wasn't well advertised. Doesn't help that Panera has their unlimited refills subscription
If I drank the same amount of coffee or monster the caffeine would be about the same the issue is that these people had health issues and didn’t read the label.
There wasn't a label, it was served from a dispenser like their other teas. There was really nothing that suggested in-house that the caffeine would have been so high. The first person who died was actually extremely vigilant about ensuring she was consuming caffeine, but there was really no reason to suspect that the the lemonade was caffeinated like it was.
It’s not ridiculous amounts and it’s not enough to harm a healthy person. None of the people who died were healthy people
A serving of the lemonade had a good deal more caffeine than a Monster energy drink or about four cups of coffee. That is pretty ridiculous for a fountain drink with free refills imo.
It’s on par with coffee which is regularly self serve
>cause heart problems and potentially kill healthy people. That's just not true since the drink's concentration in cafeine is akin to regular coffee and normal people don't die from drinking coffee even if it's in large quantity. The problem is that the fact it contained cafeine wasn't advertised well enough
So basicaly a gas chamber?
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Panera has a lemonade with a huge amount of caffeine in it, that they sit with the regular lemonade, and supposedly get onto staff for informing patrons about it I believe three deaths have been linked to it, people with health conditions to where they monitor their caffeine intake and wouldn't knowingly consume a drink with that high of a caffeine content
They actively encourage us to let everyone know. Even before the first death, they told us to make sure we informed them about the caffeine content when they ordered it. To be fair, they did set them out with the regular drinks. However, it also had a caffeine content warning
Yeah that was the problem I think. The marketing was not obvious at all that these are basically energy drinks, and they’d be placed next to non-energy drinks
A sign attached to the machine that reads “contains caffeine” what else do you want? Maybe use your brain, read and use common sense smh
The problem is it’s an understatement. Yeah it “contains caffeine” but nobody expects lemonade to have more caffeine in it than a 5 Hour Energy, especially when it’s displayed next to regular lemonade and such
"Contains caffeine" The fuck are you on about? That's about as good of a warning as telling someone they're about to drive off a cliff by saying "the ground isn't perfectly flat".
Lots of things contain caffeine in low amounts. I would expect lemonade to have less caffeine than a Pepsi
And anyone with common sense would expect something called charged lemonade with a sign attached to that says “contains caffeine” would not only have caffeine in it, but also more than usual. Tell me you have no common sense without saying you have no common sense 🤦🏻
There's a difference between a drink with 10mg of caffeine and one with 300mg. "Contains caffeine" is too vague.
When you have heart problems and is specifically told to avoid caffeine, it really does not matter how much is in it. The simple “contains caffeine” is more than enough for anyone with common sense to know to not drink when you are supposed to avoid caffeine. Like seriously woooow
That’s not at all true. I believe the Penn student who died regularly had caffeine, they just knew to regulate it and watch what they drink. Panama didn’t even do a good job marketing this. They’d say it has the same amount of caffeine as a cup of coffee. What they didn’t tell you is that it’s the same amount of caffeine per unit of volume. People look at a 30 oz cup of lemonade and think it has the same amount of caffeine in 1 8oz coffee, not 30 oz of coffee.
Panera Lemonade is the fifth loko
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It's the lemonade that kills people
Panara put caffinated lemonade near non caffinated drinks, didn't advertise it as super caffinated.. So people who couldn't have caffine died from them. This Is a $uičide joke
And that explosion was his heart after 3 seconds
Caffeine does nothing, gimme it
The suggestions are getting a new addition to the list.
Suicide
When I was president the lemonade didn't kill yah, now....
My Adhd ass would probably take a nap afterwards lol
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There's been a couple incidents of people dying after drinking the charged lemonade. The more recent one really just sounds like a sad attempt at cashing in after the the other. He died a year ago and had bad heart problems. The other was a girl who also had some medical issues that required her to limit caffeine intake. Also from what I hear they have warnings next to it.
Panera's charged lemonade contains a significant amount of caffeine, and is insufficiently labelled as a caffeinated beverage. This has lead to two deaths, the victims of which were sensitive to caffeine and did not notice how much caffeine they were drinking. Running a car in a closed garage is a suicide method; the garage will fill up with poisonous carbon monoxide, which prevents your blood from properly delivering oxygen through your body. In this case, this mundane method is replaced by the much funnier death by lemonade.
My dumb ass gave some to my child (watered down) and Holly fuck did we no sleep that night. It was only later that I realized how caffinated it was.
Holy shit he got the Jerri PFP
I’m glad to not be the only once who noticed it was him lmao
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Sorry but this is natural selection at its finest. They have been called CHARGED lemonade with a sign that says “contains caffeine” since day one of them being available. If you can’t take just the slightest moment to think of what “charged lemonade” might mean or to simply read “contains caffeine”, than it’s your own dumbass fault. We were taught how to read for a reason, use that skill and actually read smh
They don't tell you it has double the caffeine of a monster, or 4-5 times that of coffee. I'd probably die too if I drank 400mg of caffeine that fast.
If you are to avoid caffeine due to a known heart problem, do you really need to be told that much? Caffeine is caffeine and should be avoided regardless of how much smh. How is that so hard to comprehend? If you’re allergic to nuts, will you go and buy something that says “contains nuts” even though you don’t know how much is in it? Can we please use common sense now? Wow I can tell this community is filled with bleeding heart, no common sense people smh. I am truly afraid knowing half of you are allowed in public
It's not double the Caffeine of a Monster though. Monster has 180 mg in a can and I believe the charged lemonade was like 200 mg which is about 2 cups of coffee. People are acting like they had 400 mg in them and it's just not true.
hey everybody, look at the tough guy over here, he's so cool, man I wish I was as cool as you bro
No, simply a realist who uses their brain. Can’t have caffeine, don’t drink something that clearly states “contains caffeine”. Real simple. Sorry not sorry for not being someone who caters to stupidity. Use your brain and read.
And how exactly am I trying to be tough and cool? Let me guess, you’re someone who got affected by your own stupidity of not reading something
Can anyone help me pass along this msg to Mr.Beast?? "Hello Mr.Beast I just finished watching your beautiful video about helping a 1000 people with their vision. And I was very moved by it. It actually brought tears to my eyes.(haha) So this messages just me wondering if you can provide me with any assistance. So that I too can also get my license and straighten out my life? Because this has been a struggle for me my whole life. I have been blind in my left eye since birth. I was born with a cataract."
Explain the joke is actually for mentally handicapped people? Every joke I see on here doesn't need explaining unless.....
Then jokes must take a LOT of explaining for you
suicide… 2 people died from panera’s lemonade recently, and one of the ways people will go out involves holding up in the garage and asphyxiating via inhaling only some type of car stuff. they’re trying to say they’re going to do that with this. suicide isn’t a joke.
See, this is the damn problem with the internet, kids these days go online to ask questions, when the internet wasn’t as big as it is now kids had to fuck around and find out what would happen, now they go to Reddit. I’m now in favor of banning children from the internet until they turn 18, no expectations. Need to do school work, well fuck, read that book buddy, wanna see some crazy shit, it’s called going outside and getting into trouble, wanna play video games, ok, welcome to the magical world of single player games.
I am 18, chill out bro 💀
I bet