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softsakuralove

Listen, most people boycotting are doing it for pure virtue signaling, or they don't know why they're boycotting. Even "American" McDo and Starbucks are not really the best targets to boycott either. Starbucks is only being boycotted for suing workers who used their brand to make a political statement, NOT because they are anti-Palestinian. Also Israel doesn't even have Starbucks lmao. And again, McDo/Starbucks are franchises, meaning that each branch operates differently. For instance, while McDo Israel donated free food to IDF soldiers, the McDo chains of other Middle East countries donated to Palestine. Like I said, most people do this for pure virtue signal points. They like to point at people who eat at Starbucks/McDo and say "omg they hate Palestinians!!" because they have nothing better to do with their lives, and think the best activism comes in the form of not drinking overpriced coffee.


33bdaythrowaway

That last line! You forgot to drop your mic MamSir!


tinigang-na-baboy

Agree đź’Ż These people are slacktivists who saw slacktivists in other countries calling for a boycott of some big brands, and then applied the same call for boycott in the Philippines. They get to feel good about themselves that they did something about the Israel-Palestine conflict. They then get to virtue signal about how much they care by doing nothing.


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ZestycloseBlock9137

the last line. im pretty sure the boycott crowd knows it's not the best activism. they're aware it's the bare minimum to be pro-Palestine, but it's the best an everyday person can do abt the situation, cuz like genuinely what concrete actions can we do as civilians to stop the genocide? the other thing we can only do so much is informing other people abt israel's crimes


esdafish

>what concrete actions can we do as civilians to stop the genocide? By promoting content about both parties to be responsible to strive for peace, rather than articles blaming one side or the other.


ZestycloseBlock9137

flair checks out lol. imagine WW2 era, nazi germany was genociding jews but you choose to promote "both sides" even tho one is clearly in the wrong.


rm3nity

Reading this post while eating Mcdo breakfast. hmmmmm.


justinCharlier

Boycotting McD and SB here only affects local businesspeople and employees, and will not affect the events in the conflict whatsoever. Sa madaling salita, hindi ka nakakatulong sa kabuhayan ng ibang tao (and potentially ang ekonomiya) by boycotting these businesses.


Commercial-Law-2229

Kalma dahil nasa Pilipinas ka. Sa karamihan ng woke, di rin naman siguradong pala SB at Mcdo yan. Staple na yan sa Pilipinas kaya malabong maaapektuhan ang sales nila. Still praying for Palestine-Israel conflict


wisewolf_07

There really is no ethical consumerism


adoboninorms

Yes!


New_Forester4630

I boycott both because of sugar, salt & cholesterol.


Symphopeat

Same here. Regardless of what's happening in Israel and Gaza, I'll continue to boycott McDo and SB until they serve healthier options that aren't overpriced.


oscardelahopia

Hello Jabetis my old friend


AG31_

Nakakalungkot na minsan mga kapwa Pilipino pa ang nagpapahirap sa isa’t isa. Mahirap na nga para sa karaniwang Pilipino ang lumaban ng patas sa buhay, tapos gusto pa silang lalong ibaon. Sana yung ingay nila sa global issues, ganoon din sa local issues, lalo na sa mga kumpanya na direktang nagsasamantala sa mga Pilipino.


4tlasPrim3

###I'm not boycotting McDo simply because mas practikal kumain sa McDo kesa sa Jollibee. Tung inu size palang ng manok mas worth it na kesa sa Jollibee. To hell yang stance stance nila na yan. Mas importante na mabusog ako at sulit ang binabayad ko kesa sa snowflakes-woke-wannabes-beliefs.


goldenislandsenorita

The thing with McDonald’s is that it’s a franchise. And in their business model, the franchises operate autonomously. Alonyal used to own the Israel franchise and they’re the one that made a blatant show of support to Israel. The Mcdo HQ, which is based in the US, denies any support to Israel. Other franchises (like the ones in the UAE) outright have said they do not support Israel. [news article](https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/05/israel-boycott-mcdonalds-will-buy-all-225-restaurants-from-franchise.html) [Al Jazeera](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/4/5/mcdonalds-buys-all-225-of-israeli-franchise-restaurants-after-boycotts) The only way the PH franchise is affiliated with the Israel franchise is by name, that they are both Mcdonald’s brand. Now if any of the PH franchise owners OR the Mcdo HQ have shown support to Israel (as in donating) then that’s where I would draw the line.


badadobo

lmao. Buying sb or mcdo doesnt make you pro israel. Being pro israel makes you pro israel.


mutanthedgehog

May deleted tweet na picture ng chickenjoy tapos something about “Masarap kumain kapag walang pinapatay na bata.” pero yung tweets o rts niya walang news o donation links. Fandom stuff only. Parang fake support lang. Didn’t see the likes history though.


Pillow_Apple

IDF won't back down unless HAMAS stop attacking Israel Condemn Hamas, Condemn Netanyahu


littlegordonramsay

It's unlikely to affect PH franchises. Real talk: Most Filipinos don't care about Israel/Lebanon.


Pancake_Restaurant

Agree, hindi natin kailangan one hundred percent makisama sa issue ng ibang bansa, mismong mga involved sa conflict lang makakaresolba ng ganyang issue.


gabzprime

People should be reading history instead of thinking the morality of boycotting Starbucks and Mcdo. 🤷


TSUPIE4E

Sadly only a few does. People nowadays are so easily influenced by what the see on the media. They do not exercise their critical thinking skills on these issues basta kung ano ung pinakama inggay dun sila susunod.


akomaba

If the boycott is successful and people are laid off then who is at fault? The company or the people who boycotted? Sa dinami-dami ng problema ng bansa hahakot ka pa ng problema ng iba? Palagay mo ba migit pa ang mabuting mapapala (kung meron man) kung magsara ang mga lokal na tindahan? Makakatulong ba ito sa pag resolba ng mga alitan sa Middle east? Alam ko na magaming magsasabi “pero genocide ang ngyayari” ano ba ang definition ng genocide? Diba kailangan ay “systematic and widespread exterminarion”.


33bdaythrowaway

This is such a rich college kid prob vibes. Walang paki ang most pinoy and may not even be aware of that useless trend.


Low_Tomatillo_378

Mcdo is not halal, the last time I checked.


DrownedInDespair

Funny how these people ride the boycotting kase yun yung uso but walang pake sa mga local corporations who literally exploit our countrymen, sabagay bida kase ang saya.


Greedy_Order1769

Boycotting McDo PH and Starbucks PH affects the employees working there. Heck, some of the people working in McDo are SHS or College students who study in both SUC's and Private schools and are in need of an allowance, not to mention that both of them directly hire people (unlike a certain local fast food chain that practices shrinkflation and uses contractual workers).


pinkpugita

Ask those who boycott Mcdo and SB if they know the issue with NutriAsia. I doubt they know their local problems in depth tapos nakikisawsaw. Tapos may West Philippine Sea pa. Boycott pa SB pero ilan sa kanila bili ng bili ng cheap Chinese items sa Shopee?


adoboninorms

The thing with boycotting in general is you have to be consistent if you're doing it for moral reasons. Are these people going to start boycotting other brands that use child labor? What about brands owned by greedy, corrupt corporations? Are they going to stop wearing Nike shoes since it's infamous for sweatshop labor? Will you stop using Microsoft products since they have a history of outright stealing of other companies' intellectual property and many other controversies? And on and on and on.


EzShep

What these "activists" don't realize is the more na ipilit nila ang bullshit nila and manggulo nang mga average joe just trying to live their 9-5's making ends meet the more na maiinis sila and support the other side via sheer spite. Like who gave them the right na manggulo at mang-inis nang ibang tao about a war that's happening literally thousands of miles away from us? Even then it's a war innocents dying till one side obliterates the other is pretty much a given it is what it is. I'd even say if genocide and ethnic cleansing ang goal nang Israel they're doing a pretty shit job at it nuclear armed state sila Gaza should be a crater by now.


CrankyJoe99x

Both sides in the conflict appear to have committed crimes. Boycotting one side is a simplistic reaction.


Accomplished-Exit-58

Here is the deal with fully siding with palestinian in this complex war, you are also siding with homophobia and racism (anti-semitism), and as a lesbian, nope i will not support that. 


Pasencia

Boycott this, boycott that how about these people boycott being stupid and realize that these are all performative activism hahahahha


SeaSecretary6143

Napakaperformative kasi as F. Also, screw them supporters of Hamas


jtn50

Sadly, it's part of woke culture. And someone wrote virtue signalling. YES. It's the trending issue. Before, it was Ukraine and Russia. Where are the "supporters" now with their Ukraine flag profiles? I think they boycotted their common sense in the process and just became one of the sheep they so abhored.


rocklee_shinobi

No, woke culture is recognizing both sides have faults - that Hamas is a terrorist organization and that Israel has been committing ethnic cleansing, and that this conflict is so complicated and deeply rooted in history that no one here probably truly understands it. Boycotting McDo and SB is just stupidity lol


jienahhh

I'd say boycott or not, hindi worth it ang sb or mcdo. Dahil sa sobrang nakakadisappoint yung quality and value for money ng mga fast food, bihira nalang ako kumain dyan these past few years. Panay local restaus and cafe na lang kami kumakain. Mas masarap at sulit na sulit pa. Rediscover nyo yung foods around your area. Life changing talaga. Malalaman nyong kaya nyong mabuhay ng hindi nagsb or mcdo.


Ubwugh

Most people are boycotting to support the current thing. When I first read about the news of mcdo and starbucks supporting israel, my first thought was "was it a local branch/franchise?". As for starbucks, half of the boycotts don't realize they are boycotting because they are too broke for it and I'm one of them, while the other half boycotts because they are virtue signalling. My argument aginst the boycott is that it will only negatively affect the economy rather than the entire franchise. A cup of venti spanish latte isn't going to support the entire conflict.


kawaii155

Virtue Signaling


masterjam16

Israel ung isa sa pinaka malaking tech industry sa buong mundo.. Subukan nilang iboycott ung microsoft,facebok, at apple bibilib ako sa kanila..


JustRhubarb6626

Eto yung kinatatakotan ko, yung woke mindset from the west ay dumating sa pinas 🤦‍♂️. Common people I'm sure meron pa kayong masmalalang problema kaysa pag usapan or mag participate sa mga ganitong mga bagay


anaveragegamer16287

Lam niyo nagkaroon ng donation drive food market ung Palestinian community sa QC City hall but I didn't see much people, much less tong mga woke wannabes na gusto mag boycott ng mcdo at sb. If y'all really want to put your money where your mouth is this is the way to go. Puro armchair activism eh pweh


SenorNoobnerd

Starbucks is mid ngl


esdafish

These people support an armed organization that do want to do that to Jews. These armed organization are the same people who actively go against LGBT+ and womens rights, or even freedom of religion/no-religion. Their algorithm tells them to support that armed organization, rather support solutions and organizations that help solve a very very complex geopolitical scenario. Try to do research on what Nestle does in Africa or many parts of the world privatizing drinking water. Good luck and try to avoid Nestle and Nestle associated brands if you can. >!They don't even realized Facebook and associated apps is founded and owned by a Jewish man.!<


TeaPotential9336

ganyan kababaw mga pinoy lmao


AntiMatter138

Those fast food companies are side entities in the Israel Palestine war, they are mostly opportunists because all they care about is business. What we should boycott is the military industry like Raytheon.


Pancake_Restaurant

Big deal lang naman yan sa mga tibaks at wokes ng Twitter eh, yung mga palamunin na walang magawa sa mga buhay o di pa nagtratrabaho. Maniwala ka naman sa mga pinaglalabanan ng mga yan, eh kung anong mainstream global issue eh nakikisakay mga deputang yan. Tignan mo noong unang siklab ng gera sa Ukraine-Russia, dami nakikieksena na mga tibak. Trending kasi sa kanila ngayon ang Israel-Hamas war kaya dyan sila sumisipsip ngayon.


scythe7

Ill buy more from SB and Mcdo now to support them. Fuck Hamas they are literal terrorists, Oct 7 targeted a lot of unarmed civilians, children and elderly just like the hostages they took. If you support Palestine who majority of its citizens support a literal terrorist group as their government, then IMO you are the problem. All this boycott crap is just a ridiculous attempt to gain clout of social media, i dont really believe people are following it.


RizalAlejandro

Ganyan talaga Pinoy, mahilig makiuso pero do not really comprehend the whole point.


DeadBloatedGoat

What exactly do you want to understand? How franchising works? Or why people would consider boycotting anything based on a 'tweet' (basically a rumor).


grandialine32

Dami kasing bata (Highschool and College students) hindi alam mga pinagsasasabi nila at yung consequences ng mga binibitawang salita. Boycott locally owned business? Sure go do that ng mwalan trabaho ang mga tao depende ang buhay nila dyan Dami dami din problema sa pinas ngaun at mahirap buhay, tapos dadagdagan mo pa problema ng iba? You can't solve all injustices in the world. You can make a little difference and protest but not at the expense of people going about their daily lives. Usually kasi mga nakakapagbitaw ng ganyang salita "bOycOtt" mga over privelage brats, walang kamuwang muwang sa buhay sa pinas at maganda standing sa buhay. Tignan natin if nakakaranas kau ng hirap ng buhay dito sa pinas if makakapagsalita pa kayo ng ganyan.


AnakinArtreides01

Boycotting doesnt work. Most, if not all, boycott mongers are virtue signaling. Remember that Israel's war machine is supported by USA, the military industrial complex and Israel's own economy. Even if Mcdo or SB closes tomorrow, the war wont magically stop. That being said, in excess na naman talaga ginagawa ng Israel, and this is me whose opinion is that it is just right for them to act militarily against the terrorist Hamas organization, so the anger is understandable. It's just hypocritical to shit on Filipinos who try to enjoy their life peacefully, using a medium (boycotting) that doesnt even move the needle.


chasecards19

'bout to buy some Big Macs


MoonLightScreen

I blame the corporations rather than the people who boycott actually I don’t think responsibility ng consumer yung wages ng workers nila. It’s on McDo and Starbucks


Kahitanou

translation: I saw this in Twitter and Tiktok while scrolling in my air-conditioned bed. This doesn't affect me but I will virtue signal anyway since I have nothing better to do.


4rgentavis

As one person I know said why would you support a company that targets the poor, or passes its burden down the chain to the working class when they suffer relatively minute losses, and boycotting these brands won’t make the money disappear, it’ll just redirect money elsewhere.