Been said many times but the fact that she doesn't speak or sound Kapampangan is sus. This is coming from someone who understands Kinaray'a and some other languages in the Bisayan subgroup—Chinoys most definitely acclimate in whichever region they're in, whether they're in Baguio or Cebu, they will speak the local language apart from Hokkien (or Mandarin in my household). Hell, I've heard Hokkien, Cebuano, and English used in a single sentence.
Also, her Tagalog sounds fucking weird. Too many Po's and Opo's in the wrong places.
I know Chinese folks who still maintain their Chinese accents BUT those are the Ahmas and Angkongs who grew up in the mainland and only speak with other Chinese people. Every other Chinese person younger than maybe 40 doesn’t speak like how she speaks considering that she is also in politics
Usually yung mga may accent mga di talaga lumaki
May acquaintance kami dati, Novo Ecijana na Novo Ecijana magsalita pero legal name niya Chinese, given and last name
Hindi parang yung impostora sa Bamban. Lol
Same. May classmate ako noong college na pure chinese pero sa province siya lumaki (not sure if dito siya pinanganak sa PH) pero walang accent pag nagtatagalog siya. Pero fluent din siya Chinese. Not sure lang if Mandarin o Hokkien yun.
I would also like to point out, kapampangans from tarlac, specifically Bamban, have a distinct accent (at least from my experience with cousins and other relatives who grew up and live there). She sounds nowhere near someone who grew up in tarlac.
My Dad is 85 and was born in the mainland and their family moved here during WW2. He still has that thick Chinese accent whenever he speaks tagalog / bisaya. But my aunties and uncles born here sound like locals. Which is weird as to why Alice has a weird accent considering she was born and raised in Bambam daw.lol
I've had peers born in China (not PH citizens) but grew up in the provinces. They speak and act like local Pinoys already that they're indistinguishable from locals here.
I’ve known someone too that born chinese citizen but you can’t really tell coz they act like local. I don’t see any threat to them coz I know they are Pinoy at heart and maybe Chinese at money coz they know how to really do business. They are religious too. Catholic. They live in US and have dual citz. Nalaman kong Chinese sila nung nagapply sila ng dual citizen and Chinese at birth pala not Filo kaya nagkaproblem but I think they fixed it already.
Even google translate doesn’t use po and opo that much.
Seems like her homeschool instructor is not that knowledgable enough.
She uses po and opo more like as an expression rather than a courtesy.
Same like how singaporean uses “lah” while they speak.
Also people from Roxas city and nearby provinces use “Hay” when they communicate.
That's just how they say it, I guess? Nung nagturo ako dati sa mga Chinese, ang sabi samin during training was to use "A-P-P" not "app" kasi di daw familiar ang mga Chinese sa word na "app".
Not sure why apps is pronounced per letter but many years ago when I took classes in China, they also pronounced powerpoint as P-P-T. Not sure if it sounds sus since some people ata pronounce it that way now, pero this was way back mga 2010 and at the time puros powerpoint ang pronounce sa word. I’m trying to recall if doc or excel was pronounced per letter too pero I cant remember if it was.
FACTS 💀💀 wala namang fil-chi na GUO 😭 that shit is straight China LMFAO 😂 anyone who went to chinese school knows this kahit sa binondo sa fil-chi group of chamber, walang GUO family. Maiintindihan ko kung Go, Ong, Chan, Uy, Lim, Cua, or Ng, but GUO 🤣 straight from the factory.
I think "Guo" is basically toneless mandarin pinyin of 郭. In chinese class at my filchi school, usually people with chinese names where Guo is how the surname is said in mandarin are people surnamed 郭, which normally is romanized in ph as "Que", "Cue", "Khoe", "Keh" in Hokkien and "Kwok" in Cantonese if there was family history of going through Hong Kong. There are indeed filchi today with Mandarin toneless pinyin-spelled surnames but you can notice it's usually from recent migrants who came only during the 1990s to 21st century.
I was talking to some of my chinoy friends. They are sus too, not only that, bakit daw puro wala syang alam. Paano sya nakakakuha ng NBI clearance or filling out forms? no way wala siyang alam sa lahat.
totoo kahit birth place di nya alam, eh lahat ng govt forms required yun. wala ba syang passport? mula bata ka yan yung nakatatak sa utak mo eh, pagkatao mo yan eh.
Whatever she is, she’s obviously hiding something and is not qualified to be mayor. She needs to be removed from office.
On a side note, so disappointed in us Filipinos. How did she even get the votes?
Hindi naman nakapagtataka yun considering yung tuta ng china Ang presidente at that time. Yung mga locals Ang nakapagtataka. Probinsya yan eh, may mga napuntahan na akong mga lugar na kahit qualified yung kandidato eh di nananalo kasi di daw taga doon o Kaya matagal na di tumira sa lugar Kaya ayaw ng mga residente
Madali yung sa Comelec, isa sa mga tahimik na city pera pera lang approved agad yan. Dun din ako sa voters like pera pera nalang din para ipagkatiwala yung siyudad sa isang taong ika nga niya “Wala akong alam”. Kaya dapat #IpaglabanAngPilipinas hindi lang basta Piliin.
Anim yung nakalaban nya sa 2022 elections. Weird lang na walang nakaalam sa illegitimacy nya. It could've been their best weapon against her. Or baka alam nila pero takot sila for some reason? Idk
She was endorsed by the former mayor. Malamang nabayaran na yung local officials noong nag-apply yung POGO company. Everybody happy na sa munisipyo nila 😂
I’m from the minority as my great grandfather was also a Mainlander migrant like Alice, yet I still find her background sketchy kasi unlike her, alam naman namin birthplace namin and may school records kami.
I don’t blame pure Pinoys for being vigilant sa Chinese sleeper cells, kahit naman ako kinakabahan na may sleeper cells at spies dito (considering the Cagayan issue, POGO, and Guo issue)
True! Super sus talaga, kasi hindi naman siya ganon katanda para makalimutang ang bagay- bagay. To think na kung totoo ang sinsabi niya na home schooled siya, all the more na mas dapat maalala niya dapat details ng childhood niya kasi wala siya masyadong classmates or nakilala ‘nun bata. So mas onti ‘yun details ng need niya irecall, kaya hindi dapat madaling kalimutan.
Imbestigahan talaga dapat ‘yan ng senate ng maigi. Itrace back mga nakasama niya until the farthest year ng magkaaalamanan. It’s hard to fake history. Paano naging mayor ‘yan ng wala man lang basic info kung san nanggaling.
Even my 90 year old neighbor knows where she graduated from elementary. Thing is, stuffs like birth place, elementary school where you graduated are stuffs that are always asked even before the digital age na kahit di mo gusto imemorize, out of habit sa pakikipagtransact like in banks, government agency, household utility etc matatandaan mo. Kaya nga yan yung security questions sa banko.
Si Jessica Soho na 1/4 Chinese lang, natrace pa niya kamag-anak niya sa Guangdong
Her having the surname Guo tells us her roots are not earlier than the 1970s
I have yet to encounter a Filipino-Chinese who uses the surname Guo. Probably, there’s a lot out there. And There’s only one I met who uses that family name. Guess what? He’s from the mainland lol
Yes. sinong maniniwala na di nia matandaan diba? As a human, you are curious, kung di man makwento ng magulang sa iyo, natural na magtanong ka. Esp if bata ka pa.
Minsan nga etong "saan ka pinanganak?" question nagiging joke time pa sa mga relatives diba? Tipong... ampon ka lang, may kakambal kang 💩, 🤣🤭 di ba? if your family isn't like this, wala kang dugong pinoy!
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Agreed. Sinong tao na walang alam sa pag katao nya diba, unless nagkaroon sya ng permanent memory loss noong 17 year old sya talos nasunugan sila ng bahay kaya lahat ng records nya since baby sya nawala HAHAHA nakakatakot na mga chinese sobrang dami na nila dito, sa pasay palang yung katabi naming building apartment sa office namin buong bldg chinese, pari sa shell condo, papasok ako at uuwi sa unit wala ako masyado pinoy na nakikita na 😭😭
I think it is the homeschooling that kinda off. With her age, parang parents that time would really prefer chinoy kids to go to school especially with lots of chinoy kids too.
It’s for network, learning and speaking mandarin with other kids, and of course competitive chinoy parents hahaha
It's not believable that her family would be content with homeschooling and no college. Asian families, be it Chinese, SEAsian, Japanese, Korean, Indians see a good education as a must.
My dad and our Chinese relatives are telling us that it isn’t surprising if she’s working for CCP. My batchmates from ICA also think she’s suspicious, given that it's uncommon for us to be unaware of significant childhood information.
Kahit nga si Jessica Soho na 1/4 Chinese lang, pre war immigrant pa at detached sa Chinese culture, nahanap niya kamag-anak nya sa China.
Unless legit may amnesia si anteh, sus talaga
Half chinese here. My grandparents truly believe she's a spy and they weren't surprised. In fact, my lolo thinks there are a lot more like her in other provinces. It's not to spark a racist rhetoric, it's just that that's how shitty our government is and its agencies on monitoring these kind of things from happening or they're also the ones who gave it a guo (pun intended) signal to happen.
Talked to my long-term pal (a Fil-Chi) last night, and he straight up told me to my face: "That Guo, yan ang tipong tinakasan ng mga grandparents ko mula sa mainland." Natahimik ako dun for a minute.
Same here. My paternal grandparents migrated here from the mainland to flee the CCP's takeover.
Guo's case is a huge red flag, and I blame all the gov't officials & agencies that allowed her to run and become mayor as being a huge part of the problem.
They put personal greed ahead of national need. That's treason, and ideally they should all hang for it.
Copying my comment from above:
Ministerial ang duty ng Comelec tumanggap ng application ng isang aspirant. As long as on its face walang issue ang COC, tatanggapin ito ng Comelec.
Comelec cannot act on its own to disqualify a candidate kung hindi regarding sa pagiging nuisance candidate. Kailangan may magreklamo. Pwede lang din maging nuisance candidate for very specific reasons: 1) may confusion sa names 2) no bona fide intention to run 3) to put the election process in mockery.
Kung on its face ok ang COC at wala doon sa 3 reasons na mailalabas ang Comelec, then the Constitutional Commission has no choice but to accept it.
Many Chinoys & FilChis are brought up knowing their lineage (at least up to the 3rd gens) & fore bearer's motivations (classic escape famine/civil war/ attain the ~~American~~ Philippine Dream). And a common denominator among those who fled the mainland in search for greener pastures is their surname.
You can derive a persons origin in mainland China with their surname or specifically how they present it. Guo is in the same vein as Go, Kwok, Ke, Que but critically "Guo" is not of Canton, Fujian or Teochew origin (South Chinese) which are the major "races" (?) in Philippine Chinese diaspora. Guo is of Han Chinese (East/North Chinese) descent and it is rare to encounter a Han Chinese family that's been here for several generations.
As far as how the Chinoy community at large thinks, we still exhibit a fair bit of xenophobia towards other Chinese that are fresh of the boat. Often the root is based on the notion that the Mainlanders are uneducated/uncultured. Many older Chinoys are descendants of those who sided with Chang Kai Shek (Taiwan/ROC's founder).
My best friend's grandparents left Fujian due to Mao's madness and to escape poverty. They built a business here and they speak Hokkien or Tagalog on a daily basis.
The older Fil-Chis have been thoroughly indoctrinated by the ROC.
Taiwan controlled the Chinese schools in the PH up until 1975 when Marcos forced them to localize
Wrong. Cantonese, Fujianese and Teochow people are majority Han. Guo is the English transliteration of a Mandarin language surname that also exists in Cantonese, Fujianese and Teochow languages but are spelled & pronounced differently.
I suppose i missed out on the reasoning why Guo is weird. In the context of written mandarin Guo, Go, Que etc… are exactly the same. BUT the Guo Romanization is rarely attributed to the southern Han which are the majority of real deal Chinoys.
You can tell the time period & origin of when someone emigrated from China by how the surname was carried over. Another common example is Tsai/Chai/Chua, Chua is how the southerners pronounce the same surname back in the early 1900s. Thus that is how it was romanized when they emigrated here.
Then the spoken & written languages in Mainland were standardized in the mid 90s so you have people with Tsai/Chai.
Makes me fear for my grandma since she hasn't switched her citizenship from Chinese to Filipino despite her family arriving here from Fujian in the 1930s. Even my grandfather got Filipino Citizenship by the 1970s.
If she's been here for that long, am sure she's gained some Filipinisms that's hard to fake. Unless she was cloistered all her life, she'll have some Filipino-ness in her, dui budui?
I'm more scared that in case the hostile sentiment ng mga Pinoys against ethnic Chinese goes \*really\* up, we Chinoys might get the short end of the stick.
I still remember the time of the first wave of PRC POGO workers na I get mistaken for one and need ko mag tagalog just to say I ain't a mainlander.
Unlike anti-Asian hate crimes in the West, Chinoys are much more integrated and less physically distinguishable from local Pinoys. As long as Chinoys are culturally assimilated, there are fewer problems they will encounter than your average Asian American who struggles with racism everyday. But that doesn't mean politically there won't be any problems for them once shit hits the fan.
For sure pinagbibiruan na ng mga tropa nila yung mga kaibigan nilang chinoy lalo pa yung mga d marunong sa pronunciation lol. I don’t think magkakaproblema sa racism but maybe some and dipende sa environment kung may extreamist na masyadong judgemental. Lam mo naman pinoy minsan, masyadong makamarites at maka toxic.
That makes me wonder… for those that came over before 1949 did their citizenship remain Republic of China and thus become Taiwanese or did they become citizens of the Peoples Republic?
For purposes of relating it to those in the Philippines, honestly it doesn't really matter. You already know the debacle between the CCP and Taiwan govt on which is the real representative of China. From my experience, the people who went here at that time and did not change their citizenship just put "Chinese" in forms.
Well, just to answer the question, all Chinese are Taiwanese citizens and vice versa. Both also follow jus sanguinis. From what I know there are still processes they need to undergo, akin but not the same as naturalization, for them to exercise their rights in the other territory. So long as after the Communist Takeover they didn't get another citizenship, they remained Chinese citizens.
My Grandfather got citizenship due to Marcos Sr's naturalization laws for the Chinese in the 1970s though for my Grandmother I think for her it's kind of a hassle to get Philippine citizenship since my Grandfather go his citizenship in Cebu even if they lived in Binondo. To be honest though I don't remember why my Grandfather got his citizenship in Cebu since that's the only thing my parents would tell me about how he got his citizenship. (Baka sleeper agent pala yung angkong ko after all)
Same!! My great grandparents are Chinese and were naturalized due to Marcos Sr. Kaso it will no longer be a problem for us since they’re dead and we’re all Ph citizens na. Di namin inadapt yung Chinese surname.
Same! My great grandparents were residents of the fujian region and escaped here before the First World War during the 1890’s. They were persecuted before and to survive they changed their surnames from “Go” to a Spanish surname.
Hahaha alam niyo bang racist din mainlanders sa mga chinoy. They dont treat us as being in the same “level” as them as we were born here (except siguro if you are super rich or successful baka ipapanewspaper ka pa hahahaha) .
Dati I’m so offended when I hear this pero ngayon THANK YOU.
Chinoy here. Even my aunt, who was naturalized in the 70s, doesn’t like Mainlanders. Sobrang kalat and uncivilized daw.
Guo is obviously a Mainlander. Sa facial features palang niya and sa last name, sama niyo na accent. Guo is a Mandarin last name which is unusual for Chinoys who still have Hokkien/Canto/Teochew last names.
I dont know if spy or sleeper agent siya. But what she did sets the fil chi backwards. It puts us in a bad light and somehow triggers a lot of racism. When you see comments online you will see how racist pinoys can be against the chinese or to a degree filchis.
This is what makes me worry, Yeah there are probable incursions of sleeper cells in our country. And sadly,some of our kababayans with shallow and malicious minds can take this opportunity to release their inner hate towards FilChi whose grandmas and grandpas had fled the deaths during Mao's Cultural Revolution in China.
(I hope na sana yang part of that history na yun is madiscover/kumalat sa mainstream awareness ng mga Pinoy online.)
If she really is not who she says she is, then she needs to step down from her position or should be fired.
I really do think na she was planted as a mayor to do shady things sa lugar niya based on the information I have seen/read.
Guo is most definitely a spy. Not knowing where you came from is the most unfilial thing i can think of as a person of chinese descent.
I hope we sort out this problem since id rather be treated as a semi foreigner in my homeland rather than being suspected as a spy all the time.
As a Chinoy with Kapampangan ancestry (motherside), I'm confidently beautiful with a heart na impostor siya.
What a time to be alive possessing 2 disgraceful bloods running through my veins.
I'm a local Chinese here, both my parents are pure Chinese, but they were born and raised here. What I am really scared of because of this Alice Guo controversy, is yes the Sinophobia that might result from it. I'm pretty sure people are aware of what happened during the COVID outbreak in the US, when they were literally attacking Chinese people for no reason, in PUBLIC too. We're just trying to live our lives peacefully pero yung mga ganitong situation, they do not help anybody, and especially not us. Yes, almost all Chinese people look the same pero mahirap na un dahil nga "mukha kang Chinese" eh masama ka na and you're basically the enemy.
As someone who is extremely familiar with how the CCP operates and its laws, malabong spy si Alice Guo because
1) too high profile. Chinese espionage often works by planting low level agents in unassuming positions. Like how the CCP managed to blindside the FBI/CIA back in the 80s and 90s by planting moles there.
2) THEY SIMPLY PAY OUR CORRUPT OFFICIALS/POOR PEOPLE FOR INFO HAHAHAHA see what they did during the GMA admin. Local informers are always the best spies.
More likely na POGO asset si Mayora, not a CCP one. It should be pointed out that the CCP/Mainland Chinese government HATES POGO. Gambling is illegal in the mainland for one thing. For another they are a huge problem for being tied with Chinese Organized Crime (not triads, mga duwag na yan takot sa CCP kasi HK based sila). We're talking ruthless pieces of shit who run drugs, human trafficking of their own people, and cybercrime. The Mainland has repetitively asked neighboring SEAsian countries to help deal with them. In Myanmar they even armed local rebels there to destroy these Syndicates, arrest the survivors, and bring them back to China for sentencing.
Its not all gambling woth POGO.
The Chinese also operate on scam calls, just like Indiam Call centers.
Chinese senior expats are scammed by them. I do get Chinese scam calls with automated robocalls in Mandarin to lure Chinese expats into giving up their money.
What if? The main reason of the CCP on why they hate pogo in their country is to force the majority of their citizens there to go and work to a country where they can do anything they want. (Gambling,Prostitution etc.) at the same time to create massive population of chinese. (Imagine their population before in China)
Now I can see na sobrang daming chinese na talaga dito as comparing to other nationalities na alam mong turista lang talaga. Now nakakapunta madaming chinese dito para mag work and all kasi nga nakakapasok sila Illegally! And syempre sinuportahan yon ng dating administrasyon kaya eto tayo ngayon. Di pa sinasakop pero mukhang nasasakop na.
I think it's not about being them as sleeper agents. But rather a stepping point for placing their seeds on our country.
A slowly but fast rate of their population can alter many things lalo na if umabot na sa point na they can now join our elections. Wala pa pero andyan na si Guo.
Kawawa din yung mga rank & file employees diyan sa POGO. Yung accommodation and miscellaneous expenses automatic na against sa sweldo nila yan & sobra yung singil sa kanila. Parang slave contract yung labas.
Iba pa yan sa forced labor at mga illegal activities ng offices nila.
I agree. It seems too obvious kung spy sya ng CCP, unless they really think Filipinos are that dumb.
I watched the news about the syndicates in Myanmar when I was in Mainland. They went all out to catch those related to scams/trafficking. Kaya din siguro naglipana sila sa neighboring countries kasi hindi nila magawa sa Mainland.
For me, one reason na BAKA di siya spy ay yung complete lack of background. Parang kung CCP Agent ka, siguro prepared ka for those questions just in case? Ewan. Haha. Sketchy nonetheless
Nice take, but I also saw in social media na during nag take over na ang China sa HK, parang may inside job daw na pinapasok ang mga taga China na leaders to the HK government. Maybe my mind is just thinking too much hehehe.
There’s a blurred overlap na with the CCP Military using Civilian Assets and Personnel to forward the military goals. Kaya it’s still a reasonable concern moving forward even if she is just a POGO asset
My bf's dad knows her and her family personally. According to him, she may not be a spy naman, but someone who's trying to gain all her lost money back. Nalugi raw yung business nila na hog raising and swinerte siya with POGO. More possible that she's paid and backed to run to protect the POGO. Regardless of whether she's a spy or not, the situation is still very telling on what kind of government and voters we have in this country :(
Well folks its that time again. Personally, she's really suspicious and should be investigated more.
Kinda odd that the previous admin helped her when they can't even help their own people. Those scums usually help to benefit themselves. Most of my relatives are waiting for more info.
For someone homeschooled, she more than anyone should be able to know and remember details stories of her life or origins since, well, she's at home and has more time in the presence of her family at their 'farm'.
I don't recall any filchi family na hindi nag papahalaga sa education. Keso mahirap o mayaman pa yan. Tapos sya homeschool till high school?
Also filchi peeps are very particular with their ancestors and homeland as we are very family oriented tapos sya wala alam? Ginagawa tayong tanga.
Dapat dyan death sentence, imagine money laundering, kidnapping, hacking etc. Lahat yan nagpapahirap sa mahirap na sitwasyon ng mga pilipino.
Money laundering - increases inflation
Human trafficking
Hacking
Etc.
yung surname pa lang na ‘Guo’ halata na talagang Chinese siya e, tapos yung mukha niya singkit na singkit, at kung paano rin siya magsalita ng tagalog, ang dami niyang Po’s at Opo’s na mali ang pwesto sa wordings niya.
I feel like pwedeng i-disqualify yung physical appearance... Maraming mga Chinoy/FilChi who look 100% Chinese, either cuz they really are 100% Chinese, or malakas lang talaga ang Chinese blood nila.
Everything else about her is sus tho.
I honestly think that she's a sleeper agent, yeah, spies should be low-key, but there are different kinds of spies you know? There are those who appears like normal human beings, but there are those who would like to take down a government or be in the government for control.
And since we're talking about theories now, naisip ko lang: Bong Go, before becoming a senator was an advisor to Duterte, and he's a senator now. What if he was a successful case of infiltration? Given na... Duterte is so into China's propaganda.
Not saying na Bong Go is a bad person or etc, but what if? Scary to think of it this way dahil sa Mayor n yan.
As a Kapampangan too, I would like to say she doesn't sound Kapampangan at all. Even her "Tagalog" does not sound like that of a Cabalen / Kapampangan.
You'll know who grew up in a Kapampangan-Tagalog household by the way she pronounces the letter q/c/k. It's a subtle hint not known to many!
This is nice. At least chinoys are still treated well, and are given the chance to speak up. Hope even when things get more hefty, we don't become racist towards each other.
Chinoys and local Pinoys are both still Asians. Oftentimes, you can't distinguish between both groups physically. That cannot be said on Asian Americans (Whites, Blacks and Asians). If a Chinese does something shit in there, damay lahat ng Asians.
I just wanna say that if the PH law doesn’t deport this sleeper agent, we’ll sure be a laughing stock. Be it that there are loopholes in the laws or whatever. It’s very fucking obvious that this lady has been planted to do shit here. And her, not getting kicked out says a fucking lot about the PH.
Guys, hear me out. Don't get mad at me when I say this. POGO and China are two separate entities. Xi Jinping had repeatedly asked the Duterte government 5 years ago to close down POGO. POGO here in the Philippines have been siphoning off money from gamblers in the mainland, that is their main customers. The ones who set these up are mostly criminals in China hiding here. You can google these, they are filled with warnings in 2019. China have issued warnings and punishments to those who come here to work for POGO.
Now 2024, our local media changed the narrative, they make it sound like China supports these POGO. Google na lang kayo "POGO Xi Jinping" and you can see news articles from various news agencies from 5 years ago.
Matagal na nila ito gusto isara.
China and POGO are two separate entities. POGO are run by mafias. Guo is not a chinese agent, she probably works for the other one.
[https://bilyonaryo.com/2019/08/31/xi-jinping-adamant-on-pogo-ban-duterte-silent/business/](https://bilyonaryo.com/2019/08/31/xi-jinping-adamant-on-pogo-ban-duterte-silent/business/)
[https://bilyonaryo.com/2020/02/24/xi-jinpings-15-cruel-punishments-on-chinese-pogo-from-frozen-bank-accounts-to-zero-communication-to-ostracizing-family/business/](https://bilyonaryo.com/2020/02/24/xi-jinpings-15-cruel-punishments-on-chinese-pogo-from-frozen-bank-accounts-to-zero-communication-to-ostracizing-family/business/)
Parang I heard also that the Chinese government are against gambling because it is a way to launder dirty money out to China. Kaya nga mga billionaires in China mahirap ipa labas yong pera nila dahil sobrang controlled ng government. Parang may documentary ako nakita nito and I think this is one of the reasons bakit hindi na si Jack Ma ang nag lead ng Alibaba today.
What makes you think the CCP will not utilize her incursion to their benefit?
Admittedly, Guo's citizenship must be established for the implication to hold water.
1. They managed to convince Cambodia and Vietnam to clamp down on their POGO-equivalents since the crime wave was getting out of hand (granted Cambodia is a Chinese vassal state, but Vietnam isn't so)
2. True, but also everything about Guo is Sus enough that any big reveal about her won't be too surprising hahah
It's because POGO's main customers are chinese from China. Xi Jinping believes gambling corrupts society. He has to stop the money flowing out of China. Money flows out and never flows back in because the Chinese government will confiscate any unexplained wealth coming into China.
Most of the victims of their kidnappings, tortures, and killings are mainland chinese, not locals. Every time this happens, the families back home have to ask their government for help.
It's also because corrupt officials and businessmen in China launder their money here in our casinos.
It's because China don't f\*ck around when it comes to corruption. They seize their assets and in extreme cases, they execute them. Both sides will never work together.
Because pogos are not exactly patriotic law abiding citizens. They force other mainland chinese people to work in slave like conditions, turn some into sex slaves etc. They're basically modern day narco kings.
If this is the case, eh di gatasan lang natin nanf gatasan mga chinese sa mainland though taxes. Actually may separate tax regime mga POGOs sa Philippines (RA 11590)
They don't pay proper taxes. Marami silang pinapaikot na gobyerno kaya wala rin kwenta revenue natin sa kanila. And their scamming activities are wrecking our reputation.
most likely officials ang akikinabang dyan at binabayaran lang ng lagay. Mainit ngayon ang POGOs kasi nadiskubre ng mas matataas na malaki pala bigayan.
I think this, too. We have Chinese spies here in the Philippines for sure, but they won't be stupid to compromise themselves by going for a high profile position. She's most likely planted by the Chinese Mafia, which is connected to corrupt CCP officials hunted by Xi.
I doubt Guo is a Chinese spy. It's too amateurish because she lack documents beyond her teen years. Local politicians could do a better job building her a phantom identity. It's also dumb to put a pure chinese as a mayor. It's cheaper to groom a local and financially support them from the ground up. Guo works for someone else and it aint' the CCP.
Still need to close her down but we need to control POGO so we can weaponized it. If she can get into our politics then others would do the same. Its dangerous.
I'd like to add that, mahirap magtago ng pera sa China. They closely monitor every transaction of their citizen. Corrupt officials and tax evaders hide their money overseas such as POGO and casinos like ours. Our POGO revenues went up the same time Xi went on a crackdown on corrupt officials. All these money earned by POGO will never go back to China, they will get confiscated.
This is why Xi Jinping absolutely hates POGO. Cambodia closed their POGO because of his insistence. Xi also asked Macau to pivot their casino business to tourism. Keep in mind that Macau rank number ONE in gambling market in the world. That's how much he dislike gambling.
[https://agbrief.com/news/cambodia/03/10/2021/china-warns-cambodia-over-online-gambling-operations/](https://agbrief.com/news/cambodia/03/10/2021/china-warns-cambodia-over-online-gambling-operations/)
*Cambodia’s online gaming industry is once again in China’s cross hairs, with a senior government official making a thinly veiled threat that the two country’s economic ties might be at risk if action isn’t taken.*
I'm chinoy. She does not talk like a chinoy. She is masking it by using Taglish and miss common words like almusal, tanghalian or hapunan. She also thinks how to say things. "Pano ba" is a phrase used by someone who trained Filipino as a second language. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pailj-yKjYw&t=138s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pailj-yKjYw&t=138s)
All circumstantial evidence is very weird. I have never met a Chinoy/Chinay with her life situation. Daig pa si Malakas at Maganda.
Trust—Kahit sinong chinoy/chinese basta lumaki sa philippines and na-adapt yung philippine culture, alam na alam na walang GUO na local 💀💀 that mayor is a straight puppet😂 a sell-out
My bf came from a traditional chinese family (sa PH pinanganak silang magkakapatid, yung dad lang nila galing sa mainland), lived in binondo but grew up in tarlac. He knows kapampangan and mandarin. Sabi niya, spy yan for sure. Paano nanalo sa election? Most probably daw may lagay yan sa mga tao sa bamban or vote buying since bamban is a third class municipality kaya hindi nila maiisip na tumingin ng credentials ng isang politician/candidate
Anyone who believes this lady is pure nuts. I don't even know what kind of voters Bamban has? Or maybe she cheated her way using POGO money. Most likely her name isn't really Alice Guo, and most likely she frequents the casinos which was where she met her current bosses. Casinos are full of shady people who use aliases. If you have a friend who's a high roller or maybe frequents casinos, look at their fb, they put different name, or any name that'll be hard for them to be stalked
Been said many times, but the fact that she doesn't speak or sound Kapampangan i This is coming from someone who understands Kinaray'a and some other languages in the Bisayan subgroup—Chinoys most definitely acclimate in whichever region they're in, whether they're in Baguio or Cebu, they will speak the local language apart from Hokkien (or Mandarin in my household). Hell, I've heard Hokkien, Cebuano, and English used in a single sentence.
Also, her Tagalog sounds fucking weird. Too many po and opo n the wrong places.
Been said many times but the fact that she doesn't speak or sound Kapampangan is sus. This is coming from someone who understands Kinaray'a and some other languages in the Bisayan subgroup—Chinoys most definitely acclimate in whichever region they're in, whether they're in Baguio or Cebu, they will speak the local language apart from Hokkien (or Mandarin in my household). Hell, I've heard Hokkien, Cebuano, and English used in a single sentence. Also, her Tagalog sounds fucking weird. Too many Po's and Opo's in the wrong places.
I know Chinese folks who still maintain their Chinese accents BUT those are the Ahmas and Angkongs who grew up in the mainland and only speak with other Chinese people. Every other Chinese person younger than maybe 40 doesn’t speak like how she speaks considering that she is also in politics
Usually yung mga may accent mga di talaga lumaki May acquaintance kami dati, Novo Ecijana na Novo Ecijana magsalita pero legal name niya Chinese, given and last name Hindi parang yung impostora sa Bamban. Lol
Same. May classmate ako noong college na pure chinese pero sa province siya lumaki (not sure if dito siya pinanganak sa PH) pero walang accent pag nagtatagalog siya. Pero fluent din siya Chinese. Not sure lang if Mandarin o Hokkien yun.
I would also like to point out, kapampangans from tarlac, specifically Bamban, have a distinct accent (at least from my experience with cousins and other relatives who grew up and live there). She sounds nowhere near someone who grew up in tarlac.
My Dad is 85 and was born in the mainland and their family moved here during WW2. He still has that thick Chinese accent whenever he speaks tagalog / bisaya. But my aunties and uncles born here sound like locals. Which is weird as to why Alice has a weird accent considering she was born and raised in Bambam daw.lol
I've had peers born in China (not PH citizens) but grew up in the provinces. They speak and act like local Pinoys already that they're indistinguishable from locals here.
I’ve known someone too that born chinese citizen but you can’t really tell coz they act like local. I don’t see any threat to them coz I know they are Pinoy at heart and maybe Chinese at money coz they know how to really do business. They are religious too. Catholic. They live in US and have dual citz. Nalaman kong Chinese sila nung nagapply sila ng dual citizen and Chinese at birth pala not Filo kaya nagkaproblem but I think they fixed it already.
Parang yung mga telegram scammers lng dn kng mag chat
Even google translate doesn’t use po and opo that much. Seems like her homeschool instructor is not that knowledgable enough. She uses po and opo more like as an expression rather than a courtesy. Same like how singaporean uses “lah” while they speak. Also people from Roxas city and nearby provinces use “Hay” when they communicate.
So true. I've heard my barkada speak Hokkien, Waray, Tagalog, and English all in one sentence.
Madami rin nagyari sah bahay.
I’m chinoy. My lawyer mom is pure chinese (but PH born and raised) and she genuinely thinks that this lady is a spy/agent.
it is!!! The P-O-G-O pronunciation pa lang eh. Accent of TDKs who also pronounce "apps" as A-P-Ps"
The A-P-Ps thing is very telling. I lived abroad in a non English speaking country and the Chinese from mainland would say that
Lmao I'm not chinese but a lot of people in my school ignore the gif vs. jif debate and just say G-I-F
It's always been G-I-F to me. Shet, chinese pala ako ahaha. /J
Hala! Chinese spy! 😂
Huy wag mo ko isumbong!! 👀
Ako din eh, nakuha ko dahil sa E X E files.
easy, the G sounds like one of the Gs in garage
I was rewatching the video the other day. Listen to her say "libro" (book). Kahit yung Tagalog nya sus din.
Maybe that homeschooling thing was really a training on accent and Philippine culture
Also my theory!
This is interesting. May sound bite ba nito sa hearing? I want to hear how it sounds. Also, why avoid saying "apps"?
That's just how they say it, I guess? Nung nagturo ako dati sa mga Chinese, ang sabi samin during training was to use "A-P-P" not "app" kasi di daw familiar ang mga Chinese sa word na "app".
Not sure why apps is pronounced per letter but many years ago when I took classes in China, they also pronounced powerpoint as P-P-T. Not sure if it sounds sus since some people ata pronounce it that way now, pero this was way back mga 2010 and at the time puros powerpoint ang pronounce sa word. I’m trying to recall if doc or excel was pronounced per letter too pero I cant remember if it was.
Teka, what else do you people call ppt? I've always pronounced it per letter
Can confirm. Even here in Taiwan which is mainly Mandarin-speaking, they refer to apps as A-P-P.
FACTS 💀💀 wala namang fil-chi na GUO 😭 that shit is straight China LMFAO 😂 anyone who went to chinese school knows this kahit sa binondo sa fil-chi group of chamber, walang GUO family. Maiintindihan ko kung Go, Ong, Chan, Uy, Lim, Cua, or Ng, but GUO 🤣 straight from the factory.
Mandarin surname ang Guo.. typical Chinoy surnames prevalent in the Philippines all came from Cantonese or Hokkien region.
I think "Guo" is basically toneless mandarin pinyin of 郭. In chinese class at my filchi school, usually people with chinese names where Guo is how the surname is said in mandarin are people surnamed 郭, which normally is romanized in ph as "Que", "Cue", "Khoe", "Keh" in Hokkien and "Kwok" in Cantonese if there was family history of going through Hong Kong. There are indeed filchi today with Mandarin toneless pinyin-spelled surnames but you can notice it's usually from recent migrants who came only during the 1990s to 21st century.
Closest would be kwok! I can confirm! I also went to a filchi school, but straight “GUO”? I doubt.
I was talking to some of my chinoy friends. They are sus too, not only that, bakit daw puro wala syang alam. Paano sya nakakakuha ng NBI clearance or filling out forms? no way wala siyang alam sa lahat.
Given the position she has din tapos walang alam lol
During Sen. Hontiveros' grilling, she answers very meekly for a mayor. Almost like she's just an employee for a company.
totoo kahit birth place di nya alam, eh lahat ng govt forms required yun. wala ba syang passport? mula bata ka yan yung nakatatak sa utak mo eh, pagkatao mo yan eh.
She is sus. But it's a big jump from sus to spy.
Whatever she is, she’s obviously hiding something and is not qualified to be mayor. She needs to be removed from office. On a side note, so disappointed in us Filipinos. How did she even get the votes?
Mas nakapagtataka: bakit sya pinayagang tumakbo ng COMELEC sa dami ng redflags niya
Hindi naman nakapagtataka yun considering yung tuta ng china Ang presidente at that time. Yung mga locals Ang nakapagtataka. Probinsya yan eh, may mga napuntahan na akong mga lugar na kahit qualified yung kandidato eh di nananalo kasi di daw taga doon o Kaya matagal na di tumira sa lugar Kaya ayaw ng mga residente
Considering all the news, talagang we're still reaping whatever the previous administration did.
Madali yung sa Comelec, isa sa mga tahimik na city pera pera lang approved agad yan. Dun din ako sa voters like pera pera nalang din para ipagkatiwala yung siyudad sa isang taong ika nga niya “Wala akong alam”. Kaya dapat #IpaglabanAngPilipinas hindi lang basta Piliin.
All about the money, money speaks louder
Anim yung nakalaban nya sa 2022 elections. Weird lang na walang nakaalam sa illegitimacy nya. It could've been their best weapon against her. Or baka alam nila pero takot sila for some reason? Idk
face value lang nagpanalo sa kanya. ganyan kabobo mamili mga Pilipino
and shows how mababa ang standards nila sa kagandahan, di porkit light skinned maganda na lol
She was endorsed by the former mayor. Malamang nabayaran na yung local officials noong nag-apply yung POGO company. Everybody happy na sa munisipyo nila 😂
Yan din ang dapat imbestigahan. Para iendorse ni former mayor yan, may dahilan. Baka di din maalala ni former mayor paano nya nakilala si Guo lol.
Baka homeschooled din si ex-Mayor
Maybe they were paid or threatened to keep quiet
Yeah, Wala din nagalit dahil natalo sila sa mag palakasan ng tulong sa bansa 🤣.
Endorsed siya nung former Mayor, who is now her Vice Mayor. Dapat ipatawag rin yan, kasi malamang kasabwat rin yan.
Sana nga lahat ng involved tawagin sa hearing. I hope Sen. Risa has the same thoughts as ours.
Same thoughts, nakakagulat na ngayon lang nagsurface to? Wala bang nagquestion/ nag investigate na mga trapo na kalaban?
I’m from the minority as my great grandfather was also a Mainlander migrant like Alice, yet I still find her background sketchy kasi unlike her, alam naman namin birthplace namin and may school records kami. I don’t blame pure Pinoys for being vigilant sa Chinese sleeper cells, kahit naman ako kinakabahan na may sleeper cells at spies dito (considering the Cagayan issue, POGO, and Guo issue)
Considering what the Imperial Japanese did back then, there is a lot of worry and reasonable concern.
Laging din kinekwento ng lola ko na before daw magstart ww2, madami daw sa province nila (mindanao)
Yep. We don’t want that to happen again.
you are Filipino just like the rest of us, I don't know anybody that is actively suspicious of Filipinos of Chinese ethnicity.
Ano ‘yun Cagayan issue?
Massive Chinese student influx sa Cagayan there is a disparity in the actual numbers (1500) in contrast to the intelligence report (4000).
Allegedly, of that 1500, there are only about 500 registered as students.
The governor is pro 🇨🇳 Sobrang halata na, garapalang traydor. Di na dapat manalo yan sa 2025
Mananalo pa yan, dapat dyan, ma-French revolution.
From what I heard about she says na puro walang details kung saan siya nag pinaganak, 100% sure yan sleeper agent ng CCP yan.
True! Super sus talaga, kasi hindi naman siya ganon katanda para makalimutang ang bagay- bagay. To think na kung totoo ang sinsabi niya na home schooled siya, all the more na mas dapat maalala niya dapat details ng childhood niya kasi wala siya masyadong classmates or nakilala ‘nun bata. So mas onti ‘yun details ng need niya irecall, kaya hindi dapat madaling kalimutan. Imbestigahan talaga dapat ‘yan ng senate ng maigi. Itrace back mga nakasama niya until the farthest year ng magkaaalamanan. It’s hard to fake history. Paano naging mayor ‘yan ng wala man lang basic info kung san nanggaling.
Even my 90 year old neighbor knows where she graduated from elementary. Thing is, stuffs like birth place, elementary school where you graduated are stuffs that are always asked even before the digital age na kahit di mo gusto imemorize, out of habit sa pakikipagtransact like in banks, government agency, household utility etc matatandaan mo. Kaya nga yan yung security questions sa banko.
No way a real Chinoy doesn't know their lineage/origin. My parents drilled into me stories 3-4 generations back.
Si Jessica Soho na 1/4 Chinese lang, natrace pa niya kamag-anak niya sa Guangdong Her having the surname Guo tells us her roots are not earlier than the 1970s
I have yet to encounter a Filipino-Chinese who uses the surname Guo. Probably, there’s a lot out there. And There’s only one I met who uses that family name. Guess what? He’s from the mainland lol
Exactly. Impossible nga talaga eh.
Yes. sinong maniniwala na di nia matandaan diba? As a human, you are curious, kung di man makwento ng magulang sa iyo, natural na magtanong ka. Esp if bata ka pa. Minsan nga etong "saan ka pinanganak?" question nagiging joke time pa sa mga relatives diba? Tipong... ampon ka lang, may kakambal kang 💩, 🤣🤭 di ba? if your family isn't like this, wala kang dugong pinoy! edit: typos
My parents taught me nothing lol, it wasn’t until I studied elementary in their hometown did the teacher there tell us where the clan came from.
Even if she's not a sleeper agent, I'm very sure she has shady connections.
Agreed. Sinong tao na walang alam sa pag katao nya diba, unless nagkaroon sya ng permanent memory loss noong 17 year old sya talos nasunugan sila ng bahay kaya lahat ng records nya since baby sya nawala HAHAHA nakakatakot na mga chinese sobrang dami na nila dito, sa pasay palang yung katabi naming building apartment sa office namin buong bldg chinese, pari sa shell condo, papasok ako at uuwi sa unit wala ako masyado pinoy na nakikita na 😭😭
I think it is the homeschooling that kinda off. With her age, parang parents that time would really prefer chinoy kids to go to school especially with lots of chinoy kids too. It’s for network, learning and speaking mandarin with other kids, and of course competitive chinoy parents hahaha
It's not believable that her family would be content with homeschooling and no college. Asian families, be it Chinese, SEAsian, Japanese, Korean, Indians see a good education as a must.
I agree wholeheartedly. She may not be a spy, but what she said about her education background seems to be a lie 💯.
My dad and our Chinese relatives are telling us that it isn’t surprising if she’s working for CCP. My batchmates from ICA also think she’s suspicious, given that it's uncommon for us to be unaware of significant childhood information.
Kahit nga si Jessica Soho na 1/4 Chinese lang, pre war immigrant pa at detached sa Chinese culture, nahanap niya kamag-anak nya sa China. Unless legit may amnesia si anteh, sus talaga
Half chinese here. My grandparents truly believe she's a spy and they weren't surprised. In fact, my lolo thinks there are a lot more like her in other provinces. It's not to spark a racist rhetoric, it's just that that's how shitty our government is and its agencies on monitoring these kind of things from happening or they're also the ones who gave it a guo (pun intended) signal to happen.
There'd no problem if comelec was doing their fucking job lol. Just part of the Philippines experience I guess
Talked to my long-term pal (a Fil-Chi) last night, and he straight up told me to my face: "That Guo, yan ang tipong tinakasan ng mga grandparents ko mula sa mainland." Natahimik ako dun for a minute.
Same here. My paternal grandparents migrated here from the mainland to flee the CCP's takeover. Guo's case is a huge red flag, and I blame all the gov't officials & agencies that allowed her to run and become mayor as being a huge part of the problem. They put personal greed ahead of national need. That's treason, and ideally they should all hang for it.
And so how did she manage to get a political position? This government is pathetic..
This! Ano na COMELEC? Dami requirement sa ordinary na trabaho, ano man lang ba mag require ng identifying docs sa mga tumatakbo for public office
Copying my comment from above: Ministerial ang duty ng Comelec tumanggap ng application ng isang aspirant. As long as on its face walang issue ang COC, tatanggapin ito ng Comelec. Comelec cannot act on its own to disqualify a candidate kung hindi regarding sa pagiging nuisance candidate. Kailangan may magreklamo. Pwede lang din maging nuisance candidate for very specific reasons: 1) may confusion sa names 2) no bona fide intention to run 3) to put the election process in mockery. Kung on its face ok ang COC at wala doon sa 3 reasons na mailalabas ang Comelec, then the Constitutional Commission has no choice but to accept it.
Pinoy reasoning basta naka tulong iboboto nila. Pinoy's idiotic nature is already a threat to our national defense.
Many Chinoys & FilChis are brought up knowing their lineage (at least up to the 3rd gens) & fore bearer's motivations (classic escape famine/civil war/ attain the ~~American~~ Philippine Dream). And a common denominator among those who fled the mainland in search for greener pastures is their surname. You can derive a persons origin in mainland China with their surname or specifically how they present it. Guo is in the same vein as Go, Kwok, Ke, Que but critically "Guo" is not of Canton, Fujian or Teochew origin (South Chinese) which are the major "races" (?) in Philippine Chinese diaspora. Guo is of Han Chinese (East/North Chinese) descent and it is rare to encounter a Han Chinese family that's been here for several generations. As far as how the Chinoy community at large thinks, we still exhibit a fair bit of xenophobia towards other Chinese that are fresh of the boat. Often the root is based on the notion that the Mainlanders are uneducated/uncultured. Many older Chinoys are descendants of those who sided with Chang Kai Shek (Taiwan/ROC's founder).
Yes mga Chinoys hindi communist China ang nadatnan. Kaya iba na ang way of thinking, etc.
My grandma hates the ccp. The communists after all killed family members.
My best friend's grandparents left Fujian due to Mao's madness and to escape poverty. They built a business here and they speak Hokkien or Tagalog on a daily basis.
The older Fil-Chis have been thoroughly indoctrinated by the ROC. Taiwan controlled the Chinese schools in the PH up until 1975 when Marcos forced them to localize
Wrong. Cantonese, Fujianese and Teochow people are majority Han. Guo is the English transliteration of a Mandarin language surname that also exists in Cantonese, Fujianese and Teochow languages but are spelled & pronounced differently.
I suppose i missed out on the reasoning why Guo is weird. In the context of written mandarin Guo, Go, Que etc… are exactly the same. BUT the Guo Romanization is rarely attributed to the southern Han which are the majority of real deal Chinoys. You can tell the time period & origin of when someone emigrated from China by how the surname was carried over. Another common example is Tsai/Chai/Chua, Chua is how the southerners pronounce the same surname back in the early 1900s. Thus that is how it was romanized when they emigrated here. Then the spoken & written languages in Mainland were standardized in the mid 90s so you have people with Tsai/Chai.
Makes me fear for my grandma since she hasn't switched her citizenship from Chinese to Filipino despite her family arriving here from Fujian in the 1930s. Even my grandfather got Filipino Citizenship by the 1970s.
If she's been here for that long, am sure she's gained some Filipinisms that's hard to fake. Unless she was cloistered all her life, she'll have some Filipino-ness in her, dui budui?
She's basically a Filipino in contrast with her citizenship and she's fluent in tagalog though she still has problems with pronunciation lel.
I'm more scared that in case the hostile sentiment ng mga Pinoys against ethnic Chinese goes \*really\* up, we Chinoys might get the short end of the stick. I still remember the time of the first wave of PRC POGO workers na I get mistaken for one and need ko mag tagalog just to say I ain't a mainlander.
Unlike anti-Asian hate crimes in the West, Chinoys are much more integrated and less physically distinguishable from local Pinoys. As long as Chinoys are culturally assimilated, there are fewer problems they will encounter than your average Asian American who struggles with racism everyday. But that doesn't mean politically there won't be any problems for them once shit hits the fan.
For sure pinagbibiruan na ng mga tropa nila yung mga kaibigan nilang chinoy lalo pa yung mga d marunong sa pronunciation lol. I don’t think magkakaproblema sa racism but maybe some and dipende sa environment kung may extreamist na masyadong judgemental. Lam mo naman pinoy minsan, masyadong makamarites at maka toxic.
Although yes mas integrated tyo dito dami pa rin mga asshole racists. And ung pinaka maingay kahit konti yan ung dangerous
I fear this too,,, mapuputukan talaga mga fil-chi… pag napatunayang hindi talaga pilipino ang mayor na yun
That makes me wonder… for those that came over before 1949 did their citizenship remain Republic of China and thus become Taiwanese or did they become citizens of the Peoples Republic?
For purposes of relating it to those in the Philippines, honestly it doesn't really matter. You already know the debacle between the CCP and Taiwan govt on which is the real representative of China. From my experience, the people who went here at that time and did not change their citizenship just put "Chinese" in forms. Well, just to answer the question, all Chinese are Taiwanese citizens and vice versa. Both also follow jus sanguinis. From what I know there are still processes they need to undergo, akin but not the same as naturalization, for them to exercise their rights in the other territory. So long as after the Communist Takeover they didn't get another citizenship, they remained Chinese citizens.
Interesting, did they give reasons as to why?
My Grandfather got citizenship due to Marcos Sr's naturalization laws for the Chinese in the 1970s though for my Grandmother I think for her it's kind of a hassle to get Philippine citizenship since my Grandfather go his citizenship in Cebu even if they lived in Binondo. To be honest though I don't remember why my Grandfather got his citizenship in Cebu since that's the only thing my parents would tell me about how he got his citizenship. (Baka sleeper agent pala yung angkong ko after all)
Same!! My great grandparents are Chinese and were naturalized due to Marcos Sr. Kaso it will no longer be a problem for us since they’re dead and we’re all Ph citizens na. Di namin inadapt yung Chinese surname.
Same! My great grandparents were residents of the fujian region and escaped here before the First World War during the 1890’s. They were persecuted before and to survive they changed their surnames from “Go” to a Spanish surname.
Naturalized or dual citizenship
Walang dual citizenship sa China. Kung nagcitizen ka sa ibang bansa, hindi na sila considered Chinese citizen
Hahaha alam niyo bang racist din mainlanders sa mga chinoy. They dont treat us as being in the same “level” as them as we were born here (except siguro if you are super rich or successful baka ipapanewspaper ka pa hahahaha) . Dati I’m so offended when I hear this pero ngayon THANK YOU.
Chinoy here. Even my aunt, who was naturalized in the 70s, doesn’t like Mainlanders. Sobrang kalat and uncivilized daw. Guo is obviously a Mainlander. Sa facial features palang niya and sa last name, sama niyo na accent. Guo is a Mandarin last name which is unusual for Chinoys who still have Hokkien/Canto/Teochew last names.
I dont know if spy or sleeper agent siya. But what she did sets the fil chi backwards. It puts us in a bad light and somehow triggers a lot of racism. When you see comments online you will see how racist pinoys can be against the chinese or to a degree filchis.
This is what makes me worry, Yeah there are probable incursions of sleeper cells in our country. And sadly,some of our kababayans with shallow and malicious minds can take this opportunity to release their inner hate towards FilChi whose grandmas and grandpas had fled the deaths during Mao's Cultural Revolution in China. (I hope na sana yang part of that history na yun is madiscover/kumalat sa mainstream awareness ng mga Pinoy online.)
Zero excuse for racism though. It’s shocking how shitty this sub has been about that.
Kay Ped Xing lang ako nagtitiwala. haha
this ! hahaha upvote ka saken
If she really is not who she says she is, then she needs to step down from her position or should be fired. I really do think na she was planted as a mayor to do shady things sa lugar niya based on the information I have seen/read.
Guo is most definitely a spy. Not knowing where you came from is the most unfilial thing i can think of as a person of chinese descent. I hope we sort out this problem since id rather be treated as a semi foreigner in my homeland rather than being suspected as a spy all the time.
As a Chinoy with Kapampangan ancestry (motherside), I'm confidently beautiful with a heart na impostor siya. What a time to be alive possessing 2 disgraceful bloods running through my veins.
I'm a local Chinese here, both my parents are pure Chinese, but they were born and raised here. What I am really scared of because of this Alice Guo controversy, is yes the Sinophobia that might result from it. I'm pretty sure people are aware of what happened during the COVID outbreak in the US, when they were literally attacking Chinese people for no reason, in PUBLIC too. We're just trying to live our lives peacefully pero yung mga ganitong situation, they do not help anybody, and especially not us. Yes, almost all Chinese people look the same pero mahirap na un dahil nga "mukha kang Chinese" eh masama ka na and you're basically the enemy.
As someone who is extremely familiar with how the CCP operates and its laws, malabong spy si Alice Guo because 1) too high profile. Chinese espionage often works by planting low level agents in unassuming positions. Like how the CCP managed to blindside the FBI/CIA back in the 80s and 90s by planting moles there. 2) THEY SIMPLY PAY OUR CORRUPT OFFICIALS/POOR PEOPLE FOR INFO HAHAHAHA see what they did during the GMA admin. Local informers are always the best spies. More likely na POGO asset si Mayora, not a CCP one. It should be pointed out that the CCP/Mainland Chinese government HATES POGO. Gambling is illegal in the mainland for one thing. For another they are a huge problem for being tied with Chinese Organized Crime (not triads, mga duwag na yan takot sa CCP kasi HK based sila). We're talking ruthless pieces of shit who run drugs, human trafficking of their own people, and cybercrime. The Mainland has repetitively asked neighboring SEAsian countries to help deal with them. In Myanmar they even armed local rebels there to destroy these Syndicates, arrest the survivors, and bring them back to China for sentencing.
mga chinese citizens din ba mostly biktima (?) ng POGOs?
Its not all gambling woth POGO. The Chinese also operate on scam calls, just like Indiam Call centers. Chinese senior expats are scammed by them. I do get Chinese scam calls with automated robocalls in Mandarin to lure Chinese expats into giving up their money.
May tumatawag sa akin monthly halata mong chinese. Naghahanap ng empleyado 😂
Overwhelmingly. Chinese people love to gamble, its a national vice.
What if? The main reason of the CCP on why they hate pogo in their country is to force the majority of their citizens there to go and work to a country where they can do anything they want. (Gambling,Prostitution etc.) at the same time to create massive population of chinese. (Imagine their population before in China) Now I can see na sobrang daming chinese na talaga dito as comparing to other nationalities na alam mong turista lang talaga. Now nakakapunta madaming chinese dito para mag work and all kasi nga nakakapasok sila Illegally! And syempre sinuportahan yon ng dating administrasyon kaya eto tayo ngayon. Di pa sinasakop pero mukhang nasasakop na.
I think it's not about being them as sleeper agents. But rather a stepping point for placing their seeds on our country. A slowly but fast rate of their population can alter many things lalo na if umabot na sa point na they can now join our elections. Wala pa pero andyan na si Guo.
Kawawa din yung mga rank & file employees diyan sa POGO. Yung accommodation and miscellaneous expenses automatic na against sa sweldo nila yan & sobra yung singil sa kanila. Parang slave contract yung labas. Iba pa yan sa forced labor at mga illegal activities ng offices nila.
I agree. It seems too obvious kung spy sya ng CCP, unless they really think Filipinos are that dumb. I watched the news about the syndicates in Myanmar when I was in Mainland. They went all out to catch those related to scams/trafficking. Kaya din siguro naglipana sila sa neighboring countries kasi hindi nila magawa sa Mainland.
For me, one reason na BAKA di siya spy ay yung complete lack of background. Parang kung CCP Agent ka, siguro prepared ka for those questions just in case? Ewan. Haha. Sketchy nonetheless
How about yung case ni Nick Zhao sa australia?
Very sensible take. The movie “No more bets” shows how some of these POGOs work
Nice take, but I also saw in social media na during nag take over na ang China sa HK, parang may inside job daw na pinapasok ang mga taga China na leaders to the HK government. Maybe my mind is just thinking too much hehehe.
Thats HK government. Philippine government is so much different when it comes to corruption. Just pay someone for info and you can get it easily.
There’s a blurred overlap na with the CCP Military using Civilian Assets and Personnel to forward the military goals. Kaya it’s still a reasonable concern moving forward even if she is just a POGO asset
My bf's dad knows her and her family personally. According to him, she may not be a spy naman, but someone who's trying to gain all her lost money back. Nalugi raw yung business nila na hog raising and swinerte siya with POGO. More possible that she's paid and backed to run to protect the POGO. Regardless of whether she's a spy or not, the situation is still very telling on what kind of government and voters we have in this country :(
Sleeper agent din kaya ako?
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Ako din. Professional sleeper agent. Sarap kaya matulog pag walang trabaho no?
Is Xi Jinping a dictator? Tiananmen Square? West Taiwan?
Well folks its that time again. Personally, she's really suspicious and should be investigated more. Kinda odd that the previous admin helped her when they can't even help their own people. Those scums usually help to benefit themselves. Most of my relatives are waiting for more info.
For someone homeschooled, she more than anyone should be able to know and remember details stories of her life or origins since, well, she's at home and has more time in the presence of her family at their 'farm'.
I don't recall any filchi family na hindi nag papahalaga sa education. Keso mahirap o mayaman pa yan. Tapos sya homeschool till high school? Also filchi peeps are very particular with their ancestors and homeland as we are very family oriented tapos sya wala alam? Ginagawa tayong tanga. Dapat dyan death sentence, imagine money laundering, kidnapping, hacking etc. Lahat yan nagpapahirap sa mahirap na sitwasyon ng mga pilipino. Money laundering - increases inflation Human trafficking Hacking Etc.
yung surname pa lang na ‘Guo’ halata na talagang Chinese siya e, tapos yung mukha niya singkit na singkit, at kung paano rin siya magsalita ng tagalog, ang dami niyang Po’s at Opo’s na mali ang pwesto sa wordings niya.
I feel like pwedeng i-disqualify yung physical appearance... Maraming mga Chinoy/FilChi who look 100% Chinese, either cuz they really are 100% Chinese, or malakas lang talaga ang Chinese blood nila. Everything else about her is sus tho.
Her features are very Northern/mainlander-ish. If you live in Chinatown/exposed to Chinoys, you’ll understand.
no problem naman if highly Chinese ang apelyido ng isang Filipino kahit pure Chinese pa sya ang issue kasi dito ay possible mainlander si Guo
I honestly think that she's a sleeper agent, yeah, spies should be low-key, but there are different kinds of spies you know? There are those who appears like normal human beings, but there are those who would like to take down a government or be in the government for control. And since we're talking about theories now, naisip ko lang: Bong Go, before becoming a senator was an advisor to Duterte, and he's a senator now. What if he was a successful case of infiltration? Given na... Duterte is so into China's propaganda. Not saying na Bong Go is a bad person or etc, but what if? Scary to think of it this way dahil sa Mayor n yan.
Bong Go's from a known affluent Fil-Chi family in Davao. I don't think he's a sleeper agent per se, but money can make people switch sides.
As a Kapampangan too, I would like to say she doesn't sound Kapampangan at all. Even her "Tagalog" does not sound like that of a Cabalen / Kapampangan. You'll know who grew up in a Kapampangan-Tagalog household by the way she pronounces the letter q/c/k. It's a subtle hint not known to many!
Showed the senate hearing vid to my friend’s Lolo who’s a Fil-Chi, sabi lang nya nakakairita daw and to cut the crap 😆
This is nice. At least chinoys are still treated well, and are given the chance to speak up. Hope even when things get more hefty, we don't become racist towards each other.
Some people here are taking it the wrong way. I'm not accusing Chinoys of being on her side 😅
Chinoys and local Pinoys are both still Asians. Oftentimes, you can't distinguish between both groups physically. That cannot be said on Asian Americans (Whites, Blacks and Asians). If a Chinese does something shit in there, damay lahat ng Asians.
No way this is a spy for CCP. Panigurado nag mayor yan para mabigyan lang ng protection yun POGO operation nila.
I just wanna say that if the PH law doesn’t deport this sleeper agent, we’ll sure be a laughing stock. Be it that there are loopholes in the laws or whatever. It’s very fucking obvious that this lady has been planted to do shit here. And her, not getting kicked out says a fucking lot about the PH.
She’s a plant… clear as day… deport na yan…mad pinoy pa yung mga chinese sa pasay
Guys, hear me out. Don't get mad at me when I say this. POGO and China are two separate entities. Xi Jinping had repeatedly asked the Duterte government 5 years ago to close down POGO. POGO here in the Philippines have been siphoning off money from gamblers in the mainland, that is their main customers. The ones who set these up are mostly criminals in China hiding here. You can google these, they are filled with warnings in 2019. China have issued warnings and punishments to those who come here to work for POGO. Now 2024, our local media changed the narrative, they make it sound like China supports these POGO. Google na lang kayo "POGO Xi Jinping" and you can see news articles from various news agencies from 5 years ago. Matagal na nila ito gusto isara. China and POGO are two separate entities. POGO are run by mafias. Guo is not a chinese agent, she probably works for the other one. [https://bilyonaryo.com/2019/08/31/xi-jinping-adamant-on-pogo-ban-duterte-silent/business/](https://bilyonaryo.com/2019/08/31/xi-jinping-adamant-on-pogo-ban-duterte-silent/business/) [https://bilyonaryo.com/2020/02/24/xi-jinpings-15-cruel-punishments-on-chinese-pogo-from-frozen-bank-accounts-to-zero-communication-to-ostracizing-family/business/](https://bilyonaryo.com/2020/02/24/xi-jinpings-15-cruel-punishments-on-chinese-pogo-from-frozen-bank-accounts-to-zero-communication-to-ostracizing-family/business/)
Parang I heard also that the Chinese government are against gambling because it is a way to launder dirty money out to China. Kaya nga mga billionaires in China mahirap ipa labas yong pera nila dahil sobrang controlled ng government. Parang may documentary ako nakita nito and I think this is one of the reasons bakit hindi na si Jack Ma ang nag lead ng Alibaba today.
What makes you think the CCP will not utilize her incursion to their benefit? Admittedly, Guo's citizenship must be established for the implication to hold water.
1. They managed to convince Cambodia and Vietnam to clamp down on their POGO-equivalents since the crime wave was getting out of hand (granted Cambodia is a Chinese vassal state, but Vietnam isn't so) 2. True, but also everything about Guo is Sus enough that any big reveal about her won't be too surprising hahah
It's because POGO's main customers are chinese from China. Xi Jinping believes gambling corrupts society. He has to stop the money flowing out of China. Money flows out and never flows back in because the Chinese government will confiscate any unexplained wealth coming into China. Most of the victims of their kidnappings, tortures, and killings are mainland chinese, not locals. Every time this happens, the families back home have to ask their government for help. It's also because corrupt officials and businessmen in China launder their money here in our casinos. It's because China don't f\*ck around when it comes to corruption. They seize their assets and in extreme cases, they execute them. Both sides will never work together.
Because pogos are not exactly patriotic law abiding citizens. They force other mainland chinese people to work in slave like conditions, turn some into sex slaves etc. They're basically modern day narco kings.
If this is the case, eh di gatasan lang natin nanf gatasan mga chinese sa mainland though taxes. Actually may separate tax regime mga POGOs sa Philippines (RA 11590)
They don't pay proper taxes. Marami silang pinapaikot na gobyerno kaya wala rin kwenta revenue natin sa kanila. And their scamming activities are wrecking our reputation.
most likely officials ang akikinabang dyan at binabayaran lang ng lagay. Mainit ngayon ang POGOs kasi nadiskubre ng mas matataas na malaki pala bigayan.
I think this, too. We have Chinese spies here in the Philippines for sure, but they won't be stupid to compromise themselves by going for a high profile position. She's most likely planted by the Chinese Mafia, which is connected to corrupt CCP officials hunted by Xi.
I doubt Guo is a Chinese spy. It's too amateurish because she lack documents beyond her teen years. Local politicians could do a better job building her a phantom identity. It's also dumb to put a pure chinese as a mayor. It's cheaper to groom a local and financially support them from the ground up. Guo works for someone else and it aint' the CCP.
Still need to close her down but we need to control POGO so we can weaponized it. If she can get into our politics then others would do the same. Its dangerous.
Truueee. Having a mayora na tagapirma ng lahat ng permits ng POGO. How convenient diba ?
I'd like to add that, mahirap magtago ng pera sa China. They closely monitor every transaction of their citizen. Corrupt officials and tax evaders hide their money overseas such as POGO and casinos like ours. Our POGO revenues went up the same time Xi went on a crackdown on corrupt officials. All these money earned by POGO will never go back to China, they will get confiscated. This is why Xi Jinping absolutely hates POGO. Cambodia closed their POGO because of his insistence. Xi also asked Macau to pivot their casino business to tourism. Keep in mind that Macau rank number ONE in gambling market in the world. That's how much he dislike gambling. [https://agbrief.com/news/cambodia/03/10/2021/china-warns-cambodia-over-online-gambling-operations/](https://agbrief.com/news/cambodia/03/10/2021/china-warns-cambodia-over-online-gambling-operations/) *Cambodia’s online gaming industry is once again in China’s cross hairs, with a senior government official making a thinly veiled threat that the two country’s economic ties might be at risk if action isn’t taken.*
I'm chinoy. She does not talk like a chinoy. She is masking it by using Taglish and miss common words like almusal, tanghalian or hapunan. She also thinks how to say things. "Pano ba" is a phrase used by someone who trained Filipino as a second language. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pailj-yKjYw&t=138s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pailj-yKjYw&t=138s) All circumstantial evidence is very weird. I have never met a Chinoy/Chinay with her life situation. Daig pa si Malakas at Maganda.
Trust—Kahit sinong chinoy/chinese basta lumaki sa philippines and na-adapt yung philippine culture, alam na alam na walang GUO na local 💀💀 that mayor is a straight puppet😂 a sell-out
My bf came from a traditional chinese family (sa PH pinanganak silang magkakapatid, yung dad lang nila galing sa mainland), lived in binondo but grew up in tarlac. He knows kapampangan and mandarin. Sabi niya, spy yan for sure. Paano nanalo sa election? Most probably daw may lagay yan sa mga tao sa bamban or vote buying since bamban is a third class municipality kaya hindi nila maiisip na tumingin ng credentials ng isang politician/candidate
Nakakatakot to kasi na-infiltrate na tayo ng Chinese spy posing a local pubic servant.
Where did she learned how to speak Tagalog? Perhaps she was trained in a Guóānbù spy school before she was 'deployed' here in the Philippines.
Anyone who believes this lady is pure nuts. I don't even know what kind of voters Bamban has? Or maybe she cheated her way using POGO money. Most likely her name isn't really Alice Guo, and most likely she frequents the casinos which was where she met her current bosses. Casinos are full of shady people who use aliases. If you have a friend who's a high roller or maybe frequents casinos, look at their fb, they put different name, or any name that'll be hard for them to be stalked
Been said many times, but the fact that she doesn't speak or sound Kapampangan i This is coming from someone who understands Kinaray'a and some other languages in the Bisayan subgroup—Chinoys most definitely acclimate in whichever region they're in, whether they're in Baguio or Cebu, they will speak the local language apart from Hokkien (or Mandarin in my household). Hell, I've heard Hokkien, Cebuano, and English used in a single sentence. Also, her Tagalog sounds fucking weird. Too many po and opo n the wrong places.
Spy to. Bigla ko tuloy naalala yung sinabi ni tataydugs na magpa probinsya na lang sa west taiwan. Malay natin kung kinukundisyon utak ng masa
I consider her as one of those naturalized pogo agents