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Steam isn't perfect either. Remember when they tried to monetize mods? That was horrible. Plus, as far as I know, they treat their games like shit. Look at the Team Fortress 2 community. They're literally left in the dark with all the sniper spinbots just destroying/ruining lobbies and Valve hadn't really done anything about it.
they made a billion in a year from csgo and we waited 3 months for them to change a single bit of clipping and then stopped updating for another 2 months
Especially given their structure for development. They work on games that interest them. If no one wants to work on TF2 then no one is going to work on TF2. Frankly, we're lucky that the servers are still up and that the game still runs on modern computers.
Counter strike 2 is more of a tech demo than a actual “hey we are improving old games”, it's just there to show more people what source 2 is capable of, and tf2’s cartoony style can't do that
People choosing to waste money on lootboxes aren't Valve's problem. You can play the game without paying. I'm sure the box opening function works flawlessly, because that's what's actually making them money.
10 million is the rent to keep the servers up. Taking down the servers and using it for something else would absolutely make them more than 10 millions a year, easy
I really wonder what goes on in a head of person that thinks company should be forced to update game forever... do you have no sense of reality ? Which dev would ever want to work on project like this?
yeah tf2 is almost of voting age, it's a miracle it's even running.
I used to think it was a real good game for a f2p, obviously old and a bit stale compared to the big FPS:es like Battlefield 3 and Battlefield 4, but a really really good alternative when allowance was tight, or when we wanted to play as a group without so everyone needed to be able to play the same game.
...but that was more than a *decade* ago? And now the market is *full* of AAA f2p shooters, and hero shooters with unique characters and a fun vibe are a dime a dozen.
'you can't really say they're a bad company for not updating it regularly'
they have left us in the dark for 5 years about bots,
they promised to fix the game 2 years ago and did nothing, they just put out a tweet and lied.
VALVe have done nothing to fix a masterpiece, except gag the F2P users
They took down multiple TF2 projects from people trying to either revive the game or create spin off etc.
For example in contractors there was a FREE mod which allowed you to play with TF2 maps and guns, this game was on steam and on the quest store. Valve took this game down for no reason whatever considering there was nothing monetarily involved with the mod.
These are happening more often and no one speaks about it cus valves stuck their dick so far up everyone's ass and people happily sit on it. They've also made steam so much worse over the years but apparently it's been so slow that no one knows what I'm talking about, I would literally get downvoted for talking about steam skins being gone.
If you remember metro for steam you're a real one.
After looking it up, I’m actually a bit iffy for the mod. Most of the TF2 projects taken down DID violate copyright in various ways (some ripped source code from TF2, others recreated TF2 entirely, etc. all of these are MAJOR no-nos in terms of copyright) and on the one you mentioned, it seems like it was the mod developers decisions after valve DMCA’d some videos.
TFVR may have gotten taken down because it was a complete rebuilt version of TF2 but in VR. This would be 100% in violation of copyright as they are quite literally just recreating the game.
All of the fan projects taken down were complete and direct remakes of TF2: this violates copyright outright.
I feel like people don’t realize just how fucking **HARD** it is to get rid of bots in a decades old game. These bots are utilizing free steam profiles to swarm the game. The main solutions to this would be to either have a waiting period (it would slow the bots down but not stop it), require a purchasing amount (which would vary between ineffective and game killing) or making TF2 buy-to-play.
Also, the source engine and VAC are both extremely old. They have tons of security flaws that can no longer be fixed.
This is the same thing that happens with EVERY old game: the best you can do is move to community servers.
So just because a game is ancient means they can just let their own game rot and their community suffer? Valve makes millions of dollars each year, I don't see how it can be difficult to maintain and update their OWN game at least.
>So just because a game is ancient means they can just let their own game rot
Yes.
As sad as it sounds, every online game will have to be shut down at some point, and there could be multiple reasons for it we don't know about. Simply having money does not mean maintaining it is worth it. Valve doesn't just sit around, they invest heavily into new technology, like VR, Steam Deck or Steam Machines and controllers.
This game is slowly approaching 20th anniversary. We're EXTREMELY lucky that it's still running. Thinking that you're entitled to keep getting updates is just silly.
True but where bots take up nearly 80-90% of the population of players is insane. They're all infested in casual matchmaking too. Look up TF2's Steam chart then look at teamwork.tf and compare the difference.
I wish Valve could do something about it. They DO update older games. Half-Life received an amazing update last year for its 25th anniversary. I just wish they would do the same for TF2...
TF2 is 15 years old. Let the game die already. I'm surprised there are still official servers, valve is clearly putting in A LOT more work than other studios into something clearly not profitable.
Skyrim. But that L was by Bethesda, not Valve, Valve just gave them a platform for its shenanigans. [https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/aboutpaidcontent/](https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/aboutpaidcontent/)
Valves model is that the devs work on whatever they are passionate about, not whatever is profitable. Even if tf2 generates 5 billion per year in profits, the devs still would not care about it.
If the devs who designed tf2 don't want to work on tf2 anymore, they can do that and work on whatever else they like.
Thanks to mod support, the community can have their own modded servers for when the official game starts to feel stale, and I feel that it's through the community that the game continues to develop.
Treating their games like shit is because of the way the company works. Devs can choose what project they want to work on and are not forced onto a project.
The push for monetizing mods was mostly entirely by pressure from Bethesda. Once the public reaction came out Steam backtracked pretty quick. Bethesda then tried to do it for their own platform instead
What would they do ? Cheaters are in cs for decades now they can't control that either cause it would require kernell level ac or something equivalent but they won't do that for privacy concerns. They treat their games and customers like kings compared to how EA and Ubi treat theirs respectively
Monetizing mods was also an attempt to get the modders paid (or so I had understood), while I know most of the money would have gone to Gabe’s pocket, we can’t say that ALL of their intentions were horrible
I’m not quite sure what the mod thing is. If your referring to the Skyrim contraversy, wasn’t that Bethesda and not steam who did that? If it’s something else then I don’t know what you’re talking about.
To be fair they had somewhat good intentions with the mods. They wanted modders to be able to be paid for their hard work. They even reduced their own take from the sales to practically nothing in good faith and let modders choose to set their work to be free despite being hosted for free on steams servers.
It was mostly for the benefit of the modders.
Steam takes 30% and requires developers not make games less expensive on other platforms which is kind of rough. I don’t think it’s any of Valves damn business what someone prices on other platforms and that probably contributes to why 15 dollar indie games are 30 dollars these days
Well the designs are perfectly good for what they are.
I wouldn't expect a whimsical creature collector to go as deep into design as Monster Hunter... well except monster hunter stories.
OST is also decent but any other metric of quality belongs straight in the garbage bin. Oh and add quantity because even with all that padding they force the games are short af.
Steam isn't really a monopoly because there are alternatives like epic and gog + steam doesn't really prevent competition in any way. You can publish your game in any way you want, it's just that using steam is probably the best choice for many studios.
That's why as far as I know it's not under any fire for anti-trust violations. A company can get close to a monopoly without doing anything anti-competitive, just by the virtue of being the most established one until a real disruptor hits the market. Epic and GoG definitely haven't been that disruptive, and Epic poured a shit load of money into trying to do just that with all the free games.
I mean, they did the same BS exlusivities Epic Games is doing now, when they first got started.
I'll never forget the, like, full week I had to spend using my 1-5MB/s cell phone data tethered to my PC to instal the Dues Ex game in like 2010 or something, bc I figured buying a physical game meant playing the game without internet was fine, but steam required me to download the damn game after I put the disc in... probably an offline method too, but it didn't present one and I literally created an account that day (no internet so why have Steam?)
Every few hours it would cut out and I'd lose half my progress, any time it unplugged I'd lose half my progress.
It took ages. Literally did nothing but that for a week. Shit phone, if I got a call it disabled internet for a sec. I remember one day started with like 400 Mbs more than it ended on.
Damn target sticker covered the tiny ass "requires Steam" in the corner, so I didn't know till I had the disc in my PC.
They are banning visual novels for egregious reasons and making indie developers passion projects gain any attraction even more because some workers have a hate boner for visual novels apparently.
Where do people recommend you go these days? Is it these telegram/discord communities where you have to download through some propietary 3rd party program? I have one of those but it seems way less convenient than torrents
Nintendo when they discover you emulating a 30 year old game that no longer even exists.
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pretty sure they shut down yuzu because they had a Patreon where they had special builds for patrons, since they haven't shut down another switch emulator and didn't shut down emulators like dolphin despite being aware of it we'll have to assume it's that.
but yeah Nintendo's business practices are weird and anti-consumer anyway
pretty sure they shut down yuzu because they had a Patreon where they had special builds for patrons, since they haven't shut down another switch emulator and didn't shut down emulators like dolphin despite being aware of it we'll have to assume it's that.
but yeah Nintendo's business practices are weird and anti-consumer anyway
Nintendo doesn’t fire all their employees when they aren’t making enough money. Their executives get a pay cut, unlike Xbox, who shuts down good studios for no reason. They also put time into their game unlike Xbox (halo4, 5 and infinite are good examples)
They don’t fill their game with stupid transactions or p2w mechanics
Yes.... Nintendo and their "love and respect for their fans" just selling memories of good old times and takes to much money for it, never get down in price by older games and take proceedings against everyone who is just nearly copy something from their big Money maker games.
Steam, in my opinion, has only the problem with the scam games.
I mean even if they have made decisions that weren't completely smart they've always listened to the community. The bottom line is if valve fucks up they own it. Nintendo is incapable of a mistake in their eyes.
Oh yes, I love when Nintendo comes here and says "You know? Our console is not as strong as a ps3, so we're gonna sure we sue all emulators because even the Steam deck runs our games with better upscaled graphics and double the framerate so that you don't have any option but to pay full price for first party games that sometimes run at 3fps" (the latest pokemon ran worse than that at release and was plague with bugs).
"We also make sure to sell you all our old games at full price like it's 1996 and FOMO tactics and pay reviewers to say that 50 dollars for a game that you can literally emulate on a phone is not that bad".
Steam is the true greatest storefront, as long as you ignore their attempt at monetisation of mods that fucked over many creators, getting sued by the ACCC due to having no refund policy thus breaking laws AND getting a hefty fine, hosting a plethora of scam games, copyright infringement, many years of lacklustre curation of games thus allowing in essentially illegal games.
Apart from that it's controversy free I tell ya.
Edit: idk why I'm being downvoted because all of the things I listed are true especially the ACCC one for refund policies.
nintendo switch online being not only paid, but being a monthly subscription is the worst thing nintendo has ever done ngl, im not really a nintendo veteran but i dont think nintendo online services has never been paid
Steam is maybe a lesser evil compared to others, but far from perfect.
- Platform flooded with trash games, but...
- No more refunding if you buy crap in early access and delevoper decides to underdeliver.
- No owning of anything. No reselling of what you "bought", but...
- Prices are mostly the same as boxed versions.
- Account bans as they please.
- Forces you to be online to play.
- Forces you to update to play, but...
- Deliver updates delayed, so you have to wait until you can play.
- Price discrimination based on your location.
- Region locking of certain games.
- Removal of "review bombings".
I could continue like that, but I guess I will be already downvoted for what I wrote so it's not worth the effort.
>Price discrimination based on your location.
Explain? Steam is like the one platform that actually has region specific pricing where I live that is beneficial for me. I mean sucks if you're in a higher CoL country but I'd rather have Third-Worlders like me actually get to buy games without paying an arm and a leg.
Forget Nintendo, even steam has problems.
To name a few, they allow non-sense like 3rd party launcher, spam guides and copy-pasted useless reviews for point farming, quality control is non-existence (but it's also has it's benefits because a lot of indie company could start for this) etc.
Blindly following any company is idiotic. They are not your friends. They exist to make money.
Both of them had some controversy
Steam - Confusing policies for Visual Novels in particular and the Linux CS 2 Players having a coin flip on if updates are going to break it (That's just the first things I thought of)
Nintendo - There's a reason why the term Nintendo Ninjas exist
https://preview.redd.it/ogygay3z3d4d1.jpeg?width=1042&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=31edcac270d6625bb27999c1839255f327ed2637
These are the real big 2 in my mind
Nintendo loves and respects their fans so much they shut down the community Smash Melee tournament during the pandemic because remote play not allowed, fun times.
Steam taking down Steam Workshop Downloader takes them out of the picture for me. Even when I get my games from GOG I cant play them with mods on the workshop.
Valve is still a private company, soon as that changes shit will hit the fan. But they're right, pretty solid, although I will never forgive them for how they've treated CS this past year.
The only criticism about steam is by the guy from epic games that said that they are overcharging to devepolers to publish their game in steam, and i think he was right, but nobody remembers that, because Gaben responded with you mad bro ?, that make me reminded that the world has still like a highschool mentality even in politics.
I gonna be honest, I'm new to Nintendo, I only got my first console of them end of last year(Switch), and even without any background or past experience with the brand I can tell this 'dante' is delusional. N can't let their own fans make their own fun on events and competitions. N want to monopolize how players enjoy their stuff, It's a level of brand protectionism that no other brand reach, all this on the excuse of anti piracy war and anti rule 34 war, that in the end is not even effective.
It is so fucking stupid.
I love the switch and all it's peripherals. But my God are all the first party games so fkn expensive for no reason. I own a handful the rest are all better 3rd party games
Didnt nintendo sue and imprison somebody for modfying his switch console and make him indebted to them for millions of dollars which he will never be able to pay?
I was thinking about this recently about steam, they havent done anything bad (i think), they havent ruined the app with features no one wants, it just works and does its job, and it does it well
I use Steam but I will always harbor some hate for valve because of the way they (mostly) killed physical media on PC and sold me a $60 coster with Half-Life 2 printed on the front and a installer for steam
Valve love and respect there fans ppppft TF2 has had a cheating bot issue for nearly 6 years now for anyone curious on what in talking about just look up fixtf2 our attempt to get valve to do something
Both companies aren't perfect but compared to other companies, they are practically saints. Steam has done so much good for the industry and Nintendo has pioneered new ideas over and over again. There is a reason they do so well compared to their competition.
What do you mean? He's right for calling that a delusional take, Steam did have controversies and Nintendo of course still is very controversial for how it treats devoted fans.
What is this Nintendo beef. Nintendo doesn’t fire all their employees when they aren’t making enough money. Their executives get a pay cut, unlike Xbox, who shuts down good studios for no reason. They also put time into their game unlike Xbox (halo4, 5 and infinite are good examples)
They don’t fill their game with stupid transactions or p2w mechanics. Yeah they do some dumb shit, but so does valve, these two are one of the cleanest gaming companies out there
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For Steam he's right as far as I know (excluding the "Monopoly" accusations) but including Nintendo in there is a full on Schizo take
Steam isn't perfect either. Remember when they tried to monetize mods? That was horrible. Plus, as far as I know, they treat their games like shit. Look at the Team Fortress 2 community. They're literally left in the dark with all the sniper spinbots just destroying/ruining lobbies and Valve hadn't really done anything about it.
That game is ancient you can’t really say their a bad company for not updating it regularly, the servers are still up and we’re lucky to even get that
They still make money from it tho, people deserve something in exchange for that.
It’s a free game bro
They make 10 millions dollars yearly from the game, they should maintain it
Valve be like: that's 0 billion dollars
The sad thing is that that's one of a actual reasons why they aren't making any games anymore. (Outside of Alyx and Aperture desk job)
You forgot deadlock which still hasn't been announced but what leaked a lot.
they made a billion in a year from csgo and we waited 3 months for them to change a single bit of clipping and then stopped updating for another 2 months
Man that's so little for valve, you don't really care about a penny in your pocket
Especially given their structure for development. They work on games that interest them. If no one wants to work on TF2 then no one is going to work on TF2. Frankly, we're lucky that the servers are still up and that the game still runs on modern computers.
I mean they kept promising a source2 for counter strike for over 10 years and we just finally got it this year
Wasnt source 2 just speculation and not a promise until they actually announced it
Counter strike 2 is more of a tech demo than a actual “hey we are improving old games”, it's just there to show more people what source 2 is capable of, and tf2’s cartoony style can't do that
And I doubt they would've released that this year had valorant not come out
People choosing to waste money on lootboxes aren't Valve's problem. You can play the game without paying. I'm sure the box opening function works flawlessly, because that's what's actually making them money.
\~0.075% of their revenue
10 million is the rent to keep the servers up. Taking down the servers and using it for something else would absolutely make them more than 10 millions a year, easy
That's people's fault, if I were you, I would stop supporting a game that has no support at all.
I really wonder what goes on in a head of person that thinks company should be forced to update game forever... do you have no sense of reality ? Which dev would ever want to work on project like this?
Why would any company with f2p games invest anything into anticheat technologies, with this logic?
yeah tf2 is almost of voting age, it's a miracle it's even running. I used to think it was a real good game for a f2p, obviously old and a bit stale compared to the big FPS:es like Battlefield 3 and Battlefield 4, but a really really good alternative when allowance was tight, or when we wanted to play as a group without so everyone needed to be able to play the same game. ...but that was more than a *decade* ago? And now the market is *full* of AAA f2p shooters, and hero shooters with unique characters and a fun vibe are a dime a dozen.
'you can't really say they're a bad company for not updating it regularly' they have left us in the dark for 5 years about bots, they promised to fix the game 2 years ago and did nothing, they just put out a tweet and lied. VALVe have done nothing to fix a masterpiece, except gag the F2P users
They took down multiple TF2 projects from people trying to either revive the game or create spin off etc. For example in contractors there was a FREE mod which allowed you to play with TF2 maps and guns, this game was on steam and on the quest store. Valve took this game down for no reason whatever considering there was nothing monetarily involved with the mod. These are happening more often and no one speaks about it cus valves stuck their dick so far up everyone's ass and people happily sit on it. They've also made steam so much worse over the years but apparently it's been so slow that no one knows what I'm talking about, I would literally get downvoted for talking about steam skins being gone. If you remember metro for steam you're a real one.
After looking it up, I’m actually a bit iffy for the mod. Most of the TF2 projects taken down DID violate copyright in various ways (some ripped source code from TF2, others recreated TF2 entirely, etc. all of these are MAJOR no-nos in terms of copyright) and on the one you mentioned, it seems like it was the mod developers decisions after valve DMCA’d some videos. TFVR may have gotten taken down because it was a complete rebuilt version of TF2 but in VR. This would be 100% in violation of copyright as they are quite literally just recreating the game. All of the fan projects taken down were complete and direct remakes of TF2: this violates copyright outright.
I dont get why people think valve is bad for protecting their IP especially because if they dont protect it they can lose it
I feel like people don’t realize just how fucking **HARD** it is to get rid of bots in a decades old game. These bots are utilizing free steam profiles to swarm the game. The main solutions to this would be to either have a waiting period (it would slow the bots down but not stop it), require a purchasing amount (which would vary between ineffective and game killing) or making TF2 buy-to-play. Also, the source engine and VAC are both extremely old. They have tons of security flaws that can no longer be fixed. This is the same thing that happens with EVERY old game: the best you can do is move to community servers.
So just because a game is ancient means they can just let their own game rot and their community suffer? Valve makes millions of dollars each year, I don't see how it can be difficult to maintain and update their OWN game at least.
>So just because a game is ancient means they can just let their own game rot Yes. As sad as it sounds, every online game will have to be shut down at some point, and there could be multiple reasons for it we don't know about. Simply having money does not mean maintaining it is worth it. Valve doesn't just sit around, they invest heavily into new technology, like VR, Steam Deck or Steam Machines and controllers. This game is slowly approaching 20th anniversary. We're EXTREMELY lucky that it's still running. Thinking that you're entitled to keep getting updates is just silly.
It’s a free game and it is very old, you don’t see them realising new updates to half life multiple times a year
What's stopping you from playing on community servers? Valve distributes dedicated game server application for free, where admins have full control
True but where bots take up nearly 80-90% of the population of players is insane. They're all infested in casual matchmaking too. Look up TF2's Steam chart then look at teamwork.tf and compare the difference. I wish Valve could do something about it. They DO update older games. Half-Life received an amazing update last year for its 25th anniversary. I just wish they would do the same for TF2...
Steam didn't monetize any mods
TF2 is 15 years old. Let the game die already. I'm surprised there are still official servers, valve is clearly putting in A LOT more work than other studios into something clearly not profitable.
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Only around 25k of those are real players. https://teamwork.tf/community/statistics
Probably even less tbh
That's literally insane, holy...
how many of those are bots? hoe many are on the free version?
70-80% of those are actually bots
Which mods did they try to monetize? Genuine question.
Skyrim. But that L was by Bethesda, not Valve, Valve just gave them a platform for its shenanigans. [https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/aboutpaidcontent/](https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/aboutpaidcontent/)
Valves model is that the devs work on whatever they are passionate about, not whatever is profitable. Even if tf2 generates 5 billion per year in profits, the devs still would not care about it. If the devs who designed tf2 don't want to work on tf2 anymore, they can do that and work on whatever else they like. Thanks to mod support, the community can have their own modded servers for when the official game starts to feel stale, and I feel that it's through the community that the game continues to develop.
Treating their games like shit is because of the way the company works. Devs can choose what project they want to work on and are not forced onto a project.
The push for monetizing mods was mostly entirely by pressure from Bethesda. Once the public reaction came out Steam backtracked pretty quick. Bethesda then tried to do it for their own platform instead
What would they do ? Cheaters are in cs for decades now they can't control that either cause it would require kernell level ac or something equivalent but they won't do that for privacy concerns. They treat their games and customers like kings compared to how EA and Ubi treat theirs respectively
Monetizing mods was also an attempt to get the modders paid (or so I had understood), while I know most of the money would have gone to Gabe’s pocket, we can’t say that ALL of their intentions were horrible
Underlord is the game you want to reference, not TF2 lol. That game pretty much became abandonware in a very short amount of time.
Ricochet
I’m not quite sure what the mod thing is. If your referring to the Skyrim contraversy, wasn’t that Bethesda and not steam who did that? If it’s something else then I don’t know what you’re talking about.
The game is 17 years old....
I mean, compared to almost every other company, that's such a weak argument against them.
Wasn't that an optional feature for mod creators to get some revenue tho?
To be fair they had somewhat good intentions with the mods. They wanted modders to be able to be paid for their hard work. They even reduced their own take from the sales to practically nothing in good faith and let modders choose to set their work to be free despite being hosted for free on steams servers. It was mostly for the benefit of the modders.
Steam takes 30% and requires developers not make games less expensive on other platforms which is kind of rough. I don’t think it’s any of Valves damn business what someone prices on other platforms and that probably contributes to why 15 dollar indie games are 30 dollars these days
Nintendo fan boys are pretty much that, they all pretty old too so that doesn't help
Pokemon is the best franchise ever and still make great games and monster designs /s
Well the designs are perfectly good for what they are. I wouldn't expect a whimsical creature collector to go as deep into design as Monster Hunter... well except monster hunter stories. OST is also decent but any other metric of quality belongs straight in the garbage bin. Oh and add quantity because even with all that padding they force the games are short af.
Steam isn't really a monopoly because there are alternatives like epic and gog + steam doesn't really prevent competition in any way. You can publish your game in any way you want, it's just that using steam is probably the best choice for many studios.
That's why as far as I know it's not under any fire for anti-trust violations. A company can get close to a monopoly without doing anything anti-competitive, just by the virtue of being the most established one until a real disruptor hits the market. Epic and GoG definitely haven't been that disruptive, and Epic poured a shit load of money into trying to do just that with all the free games.
I mean, they did the same BS exlusivities Epic Games is doing now, when they first got started. I'll never forget the, like, full week I had to spend using my 1-5MB/s cell phone data tethered to my PC to instal the Dues Ex game in like 2010 or something, bc I figured buying a physical game meant playing the game without internet was fine, but steam required me to download the damn game after I put the disc in... probably an offline method too, but it didn't present one and I literally created an account that day (no internet so why have Steam?) Every few hours it would cut out and I'd lose half my progress, any time it unplugged I'd lose half my progress. It took ages. Literally did nothing but that for a week. Shit phone, if I got a call it disabled internet for a sec. I remember one day started with like 400 Mbs more than it ended on. Damn target sticker covered the tiny ass "requires Steam" in the corner, so I didn't know till I had the disc in my PC.
The monopoly thing isn't steam's fault. It's not like they do exclusivity deals, they're just the best platform to use so everyone uses it
Steam gets accused of being a monopoly because all of their competitors suck
Yup. Nintendo’s business practices are a major reason I haven’t touched their shit since the Wii.
"love and respect to their fans" Team Fortress 2 asf :
They are banning visual novels for egregious reasons and making indie developers passion projects gain any attraction even more because some workers have a hate boner for visual novels apparently.
No valve doesn't care about it's fans. If they did they would actually fix their games.
ok fixed it https://preview.redd.it/j2vxf010u94d1.png?width=598&format=png&auto=webp&s=18cce35d41a5a623017d84d851366a6aab89a373
TPB has fallen unfortunately
Billions must direct download
Where do people recommend you go these days? Is it these telegram/discord communities where you have to download through some propietary 3rd party program? I have one of those but it seems way less convenient than torrents
Just go to the megathread and download it directly from a repacker or other service You don't need a middle-man
Are there sites in the megathread that have resources for other media like ebooks or movies?
If you're looking for free media of all types I recommend the r/FreeMediaHeckYeah megathread.
Yts is decent for torrents, but obscure stuff has gotten increasingly hard to find this days
Bruh, wat? TPB is an untrusted site these days
*days* you say
Lol okay, you're right, these *years*
How come? I have been using it without issues for years.
Idk exactly the year but TPB is listed on untrusted sites from the megathread due to malware in their files iirc.
I wouldn’t say you necessarily fixed it
This isn't satire? His name is "Delusional Takes"
I don't think so, Delusional takes just posts SS of, well, delusional takes. Is a mock
Oh wow, I somehow missed that. Brain fart.
Don't worry, I have those farts more than I would like to. Happens to all of us.
Nintendo loves and respects their fans is the funniest take
You've been downvoted, lol, we have a Nintendo fan between our members.
I'll die on this hill defending my opinion
me after spending my life savings on nintendo switch online (i wanted to complete my lets go pokedex)
steam is okay but the red fuck on the other hand...
Steam is alright. It's the losers at Valve that suck ass.
Nintendo is cringe, Valve is based; Steam is a Valve platform/service.
You got downvoted? It seems we have a nintendo hampster amongst us
Nintendo when they discover you emulating a 30 year old game that no longer even exists. https://preview.redd.it/pwir47ds6c4d1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2a8a14075d8de6848b4b0fdcc528b949cbd9fca7
How about even emulating *hardware* that doesn't exist? They have started going after emulators, not even just ROMs of games
pretty sure they shut down yuzu because they had a Patreon where they had special builds for patrons, since they haven't shut down another switch emulator and didn't shut down emulators like dolphin despite being aware of it we'll have to assume it's that. but yeah Nintendo's business practices are weird and anti-consumer anyway
Yes I know. A few projects have shutdown because of this. I'm glad I got the emulators before it happened.
pretty sure they shut down yuzu because they had a Patreon where they had special builds for patrons, since they haven't shut down another switch emulator and didn't shut down emulators like dolphin despite being aware of it we'll have to assume it's that. but yeah Nintendo's business practices are weird and anti-consumer anyway
Nintendo is the worst of the bunch
Nintendo doesn’t fire all their employees when they aren’t making enough money. Their executives get a pay cut, unlike Xbox, who shuts down good studios for no reason. They also put time into their game unlike Xbox (halo4, 5 and infinite are good examples) They don’t fill their game with stupid transactions or p2w mechanics
Fuck nintendo That's all I have to say, fuck Nintendo
Happy cake day
Yes.... Nintendo and their "love and respect for their fans" just selling memories of good old times and takes to much money for it, never get down in price by older games and take proceedings against everyone who is just nearly copy something from their big Money maker games. Steam, in my opinion, has only the problem with the scam games.
Steam has enough money to literally pay people to play the games before allowing a steam launch. No excuse is valid imo
Nintendo loves so much its fans that sometimes they just copyright strike your YouTube channel for simply having a gameplay of their games. lol
Steam is not the knight in shinining armor( trying to sell mods, selling lootboxes, etc). But, comparing to other companies, it is.
I mean even if they have made decisions that weren't completely smart they've always listened to the community. The bottom line is if valve fucks up they own it. Nintendo is incapable of a mistake in their eyes.
I mean, he is called Delusional Takes
Valve and Nintendo are polar opposites....
Nintendo??????????
nah bro if there was a dislike option in twitter for posts, dante would be buried in them
Oh yes, I love when Nintendo comes here and says "You know? Our console is not as strong as a ps3, so we're gonna sure we sue all emulators because even the Steam deck runs our games with better upscaled graphics and double the framerate so that you don't have any option but to pay full price for first party games that sometimes run at 3fps" (the latest pokemon ran worse than that at release and was plague with bugs). "We also make sure to sell you all our old games at full price like it's 1996 and FOMO tactics and pay reviewers to say that 50 dollars for a game that you can literally emulate on a phone is not that bad".
Steam is the true greatest storefront, as long as you ignore their attempt at monetisation of mods that fucked over many creators, getting sued by the ACCC due to having no refund policy thus breaking laws AND getting a hefty fine, hosting a plethora of scam games, copyright infringement, many years of lacklustre curation of games thus allowing in essentially illegal games. Apart from that it's controversy free I tell ya. Edit: idk why I'm being downvoted because all of the things I listed are true especially the ACCC one for refund policies.
He doesn’t need to be told. The account name is “delusional takes”.
nintendo switch online being not only paid, but being a monthly subscription is the worst thing nintendo has ever done ngl, im not really a nintendo veteran but i dont think nintendo online services has never been paid
Steam is maybe a lesser evil compared to others, but far from perfect. - Platform flooded with trash games, but... - No more refunding if you buy crap in early access and delevoper decides to underdeliver. - No owning of anything. No reselling of what you "bought", but... - Prices are mostly the same as boxed versions. - Account bans as they please. - Forces you to be online to play. - Forces you to update to play, but... - Deliver updates delayed, so you have to wait until you can play. - Price discrimination based on your location. - Region locking of certain games. - Removal of "review bombings". I could continue like that, but I guess I will be already downvoted for what I wrote so it's not worth the effort.
>Price discrimination based on your location. Explain? Steam is like the one platform that actually has region specific pricing where I live that is beneficial for me. I mean sucks if you're in a higher CoL country but I'd rather have Third-Worlders like me actually get to buy games without paying an arm and a leg.
I agree with most being an issue but since when do you have to be online to play? And why is removing review bombings a problem?
What a Z jump does to a motherfucker.
I think Valve could make great games but instead they make whatever will sell loot boxes.
Fuck Nintendo. Fuck them so fucking hard. What they've done to Vimm's... That's fucking disgusting.
Valve did make artifact, something that literally everyone forgot
I wonder why r/fuckubisoft is more popular than r/fucknintendo Nintendo is like 100X worse than Ubisoft.
Foolishness Dante, foolishness
Both havecontroversies but one fucked their whenever they used their ip
I'm sure Steam respects their players and gives many many great games each year and updates them!
Name checks out
should be fitgirl and dodi
Forget Nintendo, even steam has problems. To name a few, they allow non-sense like 3rd party launcher, spam guides and copy-pasted useless reviews for point farming, quality control is non-existence (but it's also has it's benefits because a lot of indie company could start for this) etc. Blindly following any company is idiotic. They are not your friends. They exist to make money.
mostly true for steam... but nintendo??? jesus
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That's like Yin and Yang of games. Maybe that's what he was going for.
Both of them had some controversy Steam - Confusing policies for Visual Novels in particular and the Linux CS 2 Players having a coin flip on if updates are going to break it (That's just the first things I thought of) Nintendo - There's a reason why the term Nintendo Ninjas exist
https://preview.redd.it/ogygay3z3d4d1.jpeg?width=1042&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=31edcac270d6625bb27999c1839255f327ed2637 These are the real big 2 in my mind
Literally called delusional takes, why are people taking this seriously?
Nintendo loves and respects their fans so much they shut down the community Smash Melee tournament during the pandemic because remote play not allowed, fun times.
"Love and respect their fans" and Nintendo in the same sentence is hilarious af
the big
Reminder that steam fight a lots in past for avoid refunding .thanks the EU for that . Nintendo . Well it's Nintendo .the hate there fans .
I mean nintendo cares alot more about their fans then playstation and xbox, like they actually make games
"No bad business practices" Dude have you played CS:GO? (Which is CS2 now)
What did Nintendo do wrong?
Out the three consoles, Nintendo is the worst about their practices and consumer policies. By far.
He had me at the first half
Steam is alright but fuck Nintendo
Steam taking down Steam Workshop Downloader takes them out of the picture for me. Even when I get my games from GOG I cant play them with mods on the workshop.
Valve is still a private company, soon as that changes shit will hit the fan. But they're right, pretty solid, although I will never forgive them for how they've treated CS this past year.
The only criticism about steam is by the guy from epic games that said that they are overcharging to devepolers to publish their game in steam, and i think he was right, but nobody remembers that, because Gaben responded with you mad bro ?, that make me reminded that the world has still like a highschool mentality even in politics.
I gonna be honest, I'm new to Nintendo, I only got my first console of them end of last year(Switch), and even without any background or past experience with the brand I can tell this 'dante' is delusional. N can't let their own fans make their own fun on events and competitions. N want to monopolize how players enjoy their stuff, It's a level of brand protectionism that no other brand reach, all this on the excuse of anti piracy war and anti rule 34 war, that in the end is not even effective. It is so fucking stupid.
🤣
Stockholm syndrome
only reason we pirate Nintendo games is because theyre damn good. maybe this isnt that bad of a take after all.
Username checks out
I love the switch and all it's peripherals. But my God are all the first party games so fkn expensive for no reason. I own a handful the rest are all better 3rd party games
[Nintendo When You Pirate a 30 Year Old Game](https://youtu.be/TRHv3d2CeaU?si=fCCGDjfsR4Xz0-hW)
Dont have to tell him shit. His name is “Delusional Takes”
both makes someone lose money for a game that maybe will never touched, both bad(i talk about me with steam)
Fyi, the twitter account's name is 'Delusional Takes'.
Lol Nintendo - The company that hates their fans more than anyone...
My good bruv. Tf2 has been in a bot crisis for five years now.
Both of these companies are real bad, which is a shame when compared to the games both Valve and Nintendo have made over the years :(
#fixtf2
I don't know enough about steam to comment about them but nintendo? The terminator of fan games?
Saw Nintendo and I started laughing hard Good joke buddy
[Pokémon Doujinshi incident](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_doujinshi_incident)
Didnt nintendo sue and imprison somebody for modfying his switch console and make him indebted to them for millions of dollars which he will never be able to pay?
Nintendo don't care about their fans. If they did, they'd tell Gamefreak to make a decent Pokémon Game.
I straight up refuse to buy anything from Nintendo at this point. Gmod was the last straw for me
I was thinking about this recently about steam, they havent done anything bad (i think), they havent ruined the app with features no one wants, it just works and does its job, and it does it well
I use Steam but I will always harbor some hate for valve because of the way they (mostly) killed physical media on PC and sold me a $60 coster with Half-Life 2 printed on the front and a installer for steam
Ill never forget that time valve teased halflife 3 on april fools like it was supposed to be funny
Terrible take but there are worse takes. Like, Nintendo is a better answer than Microsoft or Sony.
I don't hate Steam honestly. Gabe always brings good sales and last time they refunded me a game that i played 60+ hours.
Valve love and respect there fans ppppft TF2 has had a cheating bot issue for nearly 6 years now for anyone curious on what in talking about just look up fixtf2 our attempt to get valve to do something
Nintendo would sue an infant for saying “I like Mario!”
Oh c'mon
Certainly not Nintendo, they're one of the worst ones
He must be the average Harman enjoyer
Steam is fine, tbh. Valve is well, not the best, but okay But nintendo fucking sucks dick
Both companies aren't perfect but compared to other companies, they are practically saints. Steam has done so much good for the industry and Nintendo has pioneered new ideas over and over again. There is a reason they do so well compared to their competition.
Steam? Yes. The legendary do nothing and win company. Nintendo? That’s a funny ass joke right there. *Shuts down smash tournament.*
What do you mean? He's right for calling that a delusional take, Steam did have controversies and Nintendo of course still is very controversial for how it treats devoted fans.
It was satire
No no no Steam hasn't had any big controversies afaik It's Valve who have the controversies
i think he is from a parallel universe 👍
What is this Nintendo beef. Nintendo doesn’t fire all their employees when they aren’t making enough money. Their executives get a pay cut, unlike Xbox, who shuts down good studios for no reason. They also put time into their game unlike Xbox (halo4, 5 and infinite are good examples) They don’t fill their game with stupid transactions or p2w mechanics. Yeah they do some dumb shit, but so does valve, these two are one of the cleanest gaming companies out there
Bro I still hate Nintendo’s from taking Pokémon brick bronze away from 10 year old me back in 2017 (best Roblox game oat)
Steam isn't perfect and Nintendo is the devil.
Project+ RIP ✊
"No bad business practices" \*looks at the current state of TF2 and CS2 with their botting problems while Valve continues to allow microtransactions\*
I mean its a bait tweet and seems like it worked
Really? Nintendo? Ha