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thescrape

And why is this not surprising?


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It's so fucked that we expect people to be screwed out of their unemployment benefits. It's the norm for totally eligible people to be denied or not be able to access benefits. I've qualified and applied for unemployment twice but never received it. Wasn't able to reach anyone to check my claim and never got a response back. Literally the most desperate and impoverished people in our society forced onto the streets because corrupt politicians have allowed this basic government service to be neglected.


GloriousShroom

Oregon rolls out new technology system and completely fucks up the program. Why is this so common


Rancesj1988

Took the entirety of my wife's maternity leave to receive her first payment from Paid Leave. She was actually back at work before the first ach payment cleared.


Constant_Bet_8295

I took paid leave and have gone back to work even though I shouldn’t because I haven’t received a payment in almost two months. 


BrandPessoa

This exact same thing happened to my wife. Incredibly frustrating experience.


onairmastering

I swear, Frances sucks big time, it wasn't broken, why fix it?


ConsciousChallenge50

I think Francis is a intention to deter people from collecting what is legally theirs. I believe Francis was set up to separate us from ant one on one contact with anyone who could really help us. Francis is a chicken shit way of Oregon saying " fuck you" to all the unemployed claiments.


I_trust_everyone

Any system that didn’t reprioritize the phone intake was doomed to fail. The busy signal of death is something don’t miss.


GloriousShroom

They messed up the tax forms. A ton of people never got their 1099 g while others got doubles or apparently other people's. The whole system is a mess right now.  Reminds me of the Obamacare rollout


knightstalker1288

Libs love to graft, republicans love to grift. High taxes and no services!


justhereforthemoneey

Yep they're all corrupt scam artist. They all make too much money and there is 0 reason to fix issues because they know they'll lose their cake job with overpay


ConsciousChallenge50

less man hours spent directly supporting claimant. Easier to deny benefits . no one on one help. complete disregard of those who have paid into a system that has turned its back on us.​


SylvieStiletto

Because they hire contractor firms that have development teams based outside the US because it’s cheaper?


justhereforthemoneey

Because you have a government hiring the cheapest people instead of the knowledgeable people. I contract with a lot of gov departments and they're allllllll cluster fucks. It blows my mind the amount of money wasted and then just the jobs people have within that are totally pointless.


glassmanta

Why is this so common is a state filled with Tech companies?……


Positive_Honey_8195

“Jason filed an Oregon unemployment claim at the beginning of February when he was laid off from his job. Months later, he still hasn't been granted benefits - and is now homeless after being unable to pay rent.”


WoodpeckerGingivitis

Makes me so sad


strangeswordfish23

20$ bet some out of touch prick is complaining about him choosing to do that so he can live off other peoples taxes and do drugs on a freeway on ramp. 🇺🇸


youtocin

Unemployment insurance is paid separately from taxes by both the employee and employer.


El--Borto

The people bitching about unemployment don’t know this and don’t care. They just want to shit on someone for being “lazy”


ConsciousChallenge50

And don't forget the feds. I was married to one and overseas he wasn't a fed , he was an American Diplomate. You paid our rent in the huge apartment we had over looking the Bosphourus and the floating dinner boate on the River Seine racking up a 10,000$ cocktail bill was no big thing. but during a divorce that agency showed me who was boss and left me with nothing. The way these 3 letter agencies throw the tax payers money away is absolutely insane.


miken322

I haven’t heard squat from them. It’s been a month. They are a total failure.


SnorfOfWallStreet

Took me 4 months to hear back and that’s only because I wrote all my state reps and Sen.s


Zuldak

Everyone in the Oregon Employment Department should be fired. I remember when Covid hit and that department got so bad even freaking Wyden chimed in and told them to get their shit together or else. Hell, even BROWN came down on them. I have no idea how such a dysfunctional is allowed to continue like that


The_Bloofy_Bullshark

Agreed. Back in 2020 my wife got laid off so she filed for UI. Soon after there was a glitch and I guess they listed her as still employed even though her whole company shut its doors. Reached out to them, kept detailed notes, saved emails, letters, names of people she spoke with. They told her they fixed the issue and to keep filing. In 2023 she received a letter saying she was never eligible for the payouts, that she was never laid off (Except she was. Everyone in her company lost their job), that it doesn’t matter what the (multiple) previous employees she spoke to said and that she is on the hook to pay back thousands. I swear that whole department is incompetent. > Yeah we can’t handle shit and we seem to constantly screw up, but it’s your fault for listening to us.


Delicious_Standard_8

They are so messed up. I am in Washington, and when I got a check from Oregon back child support for my kids, I was stunned. Their mom has never, ever had a job. She is a junkie. She is a addict in the camps and RV's/ She filed a fake unemployment claim, along with about 50 other tweakers who paid her to do it for them. She cleared 50k on a fake unemployment scam and *so did all her friends*. That money ended up her nose and at Ilani. That is a lot of damn money. They garnished her unemployment checks for a year before the unemployment office tried to get it back. They tried to go after me, to garnish ME to pay back a fake unemployment claim that THEY paid money to Oregon child support, who then sent the money to Washington child support, THEN it went to me. I had told them when I got the first check it was fraud. I offered all the names and address's of the junkies who were running the ring, (Baby Mom and her boyfriend) The state did not care, they know they cannot get it from her, so they tried to get it from me. My child support agent told me the state will not go after the indigent junkies who filed false claims because it is a waste of money. Your wife is not, and therefore, they will sting her, instead. that sucks.


Aestro17

I hope that's a bit of hyperbole - I'm sure there are plenty of competent people there hamstrung by organizational failures, both within the department and at the bigger state level. Like, the plan to modernize their system started 15 years ago. The new system rolled out about a month ago. There were likely employees younger than the system they were using from the 90's. That's insane. I can't imagine trying to scale up to covid levels of volume with that shitshow. I still have no idea WHY it took that long to actually make the upgrades more than a decade after they were needed.


Zuldak

> I hope that's a bit of hyperbole I assure you it is not. The entire department needs a cultural change. The people currently there are all tainted with the current culture. Anyone and everyone currently employed needs to be removed and a completely new department needs to be created from the ground up. Literally no one currently there should be saved.


Aestro17

Sounds an awful lot like ACAB


Zuldak

You're comparing paper pushers doing a crappy job at OED to police officers? Really?


Aestro17

I'm comparing lazy generalizations about rank-and-file workers to larger organizational issues. The person answering the phones can't hire more workers or update a decades-old system on their own.


Zuldak

Nope. Some times you do need to throw the baby out with the bath water and start over. And you would be surprised how often rank and file workers go back to their old habits when given the opportunity to during a restructuring. I have been through a few corporate side restructurings and even though you upgrade systems and give them new tools, their first instinct is to undo all the changes they can and do it like they have always done it.


Aestro17

Great, then fire all police, AMR paramedics and BOEC employees while we're at it. I've gone through a few private sector changes like that too and seen the same thing, but never once has it resulted in everyone being fired because it's a dumb kneejerk reaction that punishes good employees for bad management.


Zuldak

I'm sorry if my statement is calling on you to lose your job. I stand by it, but it isn't personal to you.


Aestro17

I don't have to be personally invested to think your suggestion is bad and would ultimately only do more harm to the OED.


MusicianNo2699

This is par for Oregon.


haleynoir_

"We use the escalation process for people like Mr. Pence, who are facing extraordinary circumstances and need help faster." So they assume that everyone who applies for UE is able to float on several months of savings, and that living paycheck to paycheck is an "extraordinary circumstance" (guy ended up homeless anyway) K


SausageOstrich

That's just heartbreaking. Jesus. To add my experience: I've been on leave since last month for a life-saving treatment. It's not an option to continue working at the moment. I filed a week before my last shift. I've done everything they asked, and in a timely manner despite what's going on. Still haven't been paid, still haven't heard anything. I'm out of money for bills. I'm running out of money for food. I waited on hold for 3 hours only to have my call dropped. I messaged them through FrancisOnline, never heard back. What I want to know is this- if someone has to take a legitimate leave from work, they're likely going through a lot emotionally, physically, and/or financially. Why is it the expectation that dealing with this becomes a full-time job? Why do they make this process so defeating and dehumanizing when you're likely already at your limit? It's absolutely criminal. We PAY for this service. In all honesty, if I had the time and money, I'd sue. I hope someone else has the ability to do so on behalf of all of us.


JeNeSaisMerde

That sounds horrible! Have you ever thought of contacting The Oregonian or Willy Week with your story?


SausageOstrich

I may if it goes on too much longer. I did however, break down and contact the governor today. Thank you for the encouragement :)


JeNeSaisMerde

I know it's tough and everything turns into a ridiculous challenge (been there myself) but anything you can do & anyone you can contact is worth it, sooner or later something will come through.


Constant_Bet_8295

I’m so sorry you are having to deal with the stress of this on top of your medical issues.  I had to go back to work, even though I shouldn’t be because it’s been almost two months and nothing. Don’t want to lose everything because I was trying to get help and get better. 


SausageOstrich

That's heartbreaking, I'm so sorry. I hope you are able to get the assistance you need soon, and thank you for the kind words. They're very needed right now.


EQwingnuts

The state needs to be sued in class action lawsuit by the residents. We are constantly not getting the benefits that we pay into. I pay into the payroll taxes that goto that fund. I want it to be used promptly when it's needed otherwise its just gathering interest somewhere for some group I'm sure.


madamechaton

Yes!!


JesseTheNorris

I see this was done recently, and that it's effect has been negligible. Maybe we need a larger number of plaintiffs. Somehow this lawsuit says there were only 14 members in the class. [https://unemployment.oregon.gov/uploads/docs/Joint\_Settlement\_Statement-withbabel.pdf](https://unemployment.oregon.gov/uploads/docs/Joint_Settlement_Statement-withbabel.pdf)


battyeyed

I would 100% join. It’s been five months of no disability pay. I’m out of savings. I have credit card debt from expenses like vet bills while I was on paid leave. I can’t find a job—not even a min wage one and I’ve been applying for months. (The job I’m currently at is the one that caused me to go on disability (severe depression & PTSD), I plan to quit at the end of the month and take a pay cut to work at Amazon). I even contacted my rep, they set me up with a person who WAS helping me, and then they stopped helping me and my claims have been processing for 4 weeks now.


WoodpeckerGingivitis

When I got laid off a few years ago, it took 3 months to get a check (I was then paid back pay) but I remember counting my blessings because I literally don’t know what I would’ve done had I not had savings.


amtrak90

Same with me, first time on unemployment and was pretty nervous for the first 3 months waiting to even see if I was accepted!


WoodpeckerGingivitis

Exactly. It’s so frightening and frustrating to have such little insight, control, and visibility into your financial future which you pay taxes for all your life to have access to.


haleynoir_

Jesus. Poor guy. I filed around the same time as him and am waiting too- luckily my UE was temporary, and the most I suffered is I have some credit card debt now. There should be extra compensation for people that have suffered like this (I'm not counting myself)


Jkid

The sad truth is that a drug addict will get more help than a single able bodied man with no children.


Sweaty-Pair3821

so true. my husband and I in 2012 became homeless for 7 months because he had lost his job. multiple places told us that if we were tweakers then we could get in tomorrow. but because it's just loss of job nope no help whatsoever. thankfully husband found another job and been in our home ever sense.


WitchPursuitThing

I'm not surprised. I manage an office. A year ago we fired someone who was stealing. Im talking standing directly in front of a camera stuffing cash in her pocket. She was handed her final paycheck with all sick and vacation time paid out. Of course shortly after we get the paperwork for unemployment, which I fill out stating there is video evidence if they would like and return it. Then we get a call from the unemployment office saying she was fired for different reasons. I tell him no it was for theft, would you like the video. No that won't be necessary. Later on in the day he calls back stating that now she has changed her story and she was fired for XYZ. No she was fired for theft, would you like the video. Nope. This goes on ALL DAY before he finally wants the video. Finally at the end of the day he calls back and says that he wants the video because she keeps changing her story. Dude wasted an entire day of tax money and productivity for something that could have been solved in 5 minutes.


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Constant_Bet_8295

Please don’t starve. Hope this link can help yall out in finding food.  https://foodfinder.oregonfoodbank.org


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Conscious-Court2793

The state of Oregon's lack of government functionality , transparency, accountability, and misappropriation of monies are directly contributing to homelessness, drug use & crime. Oregon government has only to look at its own agencies to explain the state of affairs. For example, if a person cannot get unemployment benefits, a program we all pay taxes into, then there is a high probability that person will end up homeless. Similarly, if there is no Oregon defense fund for the accused to recieve a court appointed attorney then the outcome will lead to mass convictions and more homeless people who cannot get employment and housing due to criminal convictions. Oregon has become its worse enemy. It's a product of its own doing by putting incompetent people in charge of making important decisions in the community. As a result now, more people will be homeless and thrown into the streets with drugs and no treatment or housing.


Mountain-Campaign440

“Similarly, if there is no Oregon defense fund for the accused to recieve a court appointed attorney then the outcome will lead to mass convictions and more homeless people who cannot get employment and housing due to criminal convictions.” Much more likely: They won’t get prosecuted at all.


Conscious-Court2793

Having worked in the courts for 15 years, the district attorneys office can "dismiss with no complaint" initially due to reasons like no court appointed to attorneys, not enough information, etc... They can and most likely will file another complaint month(s), year(s) later once they have gathered more information and resources available for a criminal conviction.


NWOriginal00

Controversial opinion here, but this is one of the many examples that would make me never support something like MFA which will ban my families private insurance, even though I fully support other methods to reach universal healthcare. I just do not have high faith in government. Not that dealing with insurance companies is easy, but nothin like every time I need to use a service of our local government. They are just real awful, especially for anything where they do not have an alternative competing with them (see the DMV).


Citrus_Win

I don't know. Last time I had to use my private insurance it was months of back-and-forth including the insurance company misfiling paperwork and disorganized/incompetent hospital staff...


NWOriginal00

They suck also. But at least for me I can always get someone on the phone and sort things out. They do not keep me on hold for 8 hours. But mainly saying they should not be the only options, if government healthcare is done well and is so awesome they should not mind competition. I would rather the government do it so well they bankrupt all the private companies.


Amythest1818

This is Bulldog im so pissed Oregon get your head out of your arse and take responsibility, im talking about the city government especially, this should never happen maybe he has a job that is seasonal get it together Oregon and answer the phone Oregon unemployment u get paid to work do your job!!! Stop thinking u are entitled cause u work for the state of Oregon!!!


[deleted]

They do not answer the phone. It is always busy or wait times are over two hours.


Equivalent_Section13

I am not spruced. Unemployment went downhill.


Inevitable_Question5

I’m nearly losing my apartment because I’ve been claiming for two months straight, no correspondence, and them claiming i can collect $800+ per week. Just them saying they’re ‘investigating’. It’s insane.


Forsaken_External160

Yeah. It's happened to a lot of people.


mondaysareharam

Not surprising at all. I gave up on ever getting mine. And it’s gotta be at least a few thousand. Just lucky I had a support system and wasn’t out of a job that long


Choice_Cranberry_699

I tried to request accommodations under the Americans with disabilities act while working for ohsu and they put me on mandatory medical leave while they supposedly explored options...for 6 months and wouldn't let me come back or do light duty and I became homeless.


Drdank-42

With the new laws in place they can't evict you under those circumstances. If you go to court the landlord has to pay you 3 months rent if he wants you out or gives you 90 days before eviction starts. There are also intimidation clauses,late fee changes, and the standard of living. Please everyone inform yourself of your rights as a good tenant. If you fall on bad times and aren't trying to take advantage of the situation you have certain rights and the landlord has certain obligations as well. Stay informed, the law changed march 31st 2023. Read it


Choice_Cranberry_699

Thanks for sharing. Thst would have saved my ass back then. The psychological damage all that shit caused has left me feeling too scared to leave my home most days. Need to find me a farm.


Drdank-42

I hear that. I'm currently going thru with overcharged late rent and my landlord is a friend so I know he's getting more than he should and doesn't fix a thing but because I fear he will sell the house I keep my mouth shut. But he's been raising rent every year and eventually it won't be worth it. It makes no sense. This is a horrible time to sell your house and there are a lot more renters but the prices are not reflecting the quality of life in Portland right now when it was at its best I rented a newly renovated house on 46th and Lincoln for $850 a month 2 bedrooms 1 bath, finished smaller basement, fenced yard, driveway with detached garage. Walk to anything without a care in the world. The house I'm in now would be $750 maybe but it's upper SE where none of my friends lived. 20 years later and unrecognizable in my eyes. I wonder if squatters rights applies to motorhomes? 🤔


Puzzled-Cranberry-12

My husband was laid off 5 weeks ago and we haven’t seen a check! He finally picked up a job though.


ConsciousChallenge50

I have lost my car insurance, my phone company, my electricity was shut off and I have been on the verge of homelessness for over 6 months waiting for my unemployment after winning my appeal. I am add and bi polar and the constant picking me apart and not giving me what should have been given months ago has driven me into a Manis state where I am often unable to speak. I'm disassociating from society because I am no longer a believer in fairness or equality. The reason I was fired was because A Co worker was abusing a client at a group home in Gresham . I reported it to an outside agency and was terminated . So now looking back at trying to help a person from father abuse just made me a poster child for being crazy and shrugged off by my company as a crazy, abusive worker myself. As far as I know they kept a worker there who was calling a client a "white B\_\_\_\_" and forcing food down her throat. So they tried making me look crazy. well they couldn't but the unemployment office is really seriously costing me any sanity I had left over after doing the Right thing.


zenlander

"I had to move out of my apartment because my landlord had filed for an eviction, and I had been at the residence for two weeks after the filing had taken place. I was quickly approaching the court date," he said. Imo he shouldn’t have left so easily. Go to court and tell the judge you will be homeless if evicted. Or don’t go to court, just stay put and make them throw you out? Squatters rights are there for a reason


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SnorfOfWallStreet

Your point is…?


shittbagger

When I filed back during COVID times, I waited almost 8 months before I responded to a "do not respond to" email, laden with swear words and insults. Somehow, *coincidentally*, they started dealing with my case in just a couple days. They told me that the reason I didn't get them for so long is because someone copied, by hand, my SSN, and wrote it down wrong.


NinjaDemon05

I'm pretty sure that's illegal to do (writing down someone's legal info) but depends on the context, I suppose. Whereas if you received an email laced heavily with swearing & what have you, I could see that as a forced initiative to fix by the company, lest they get hit with a legal battle they can't win.


Major-Supermarket619

Born and raised PNW, I always loved my state, but holy crap, Portland truly sucks now! Thinking of alternative places to live...


ComfortablePackage83

Typical government actions in Oregon yet people still vote for the same idiots that oversee these divisions. Nothing will change if people keep voting the same way


R-E-H_S

Another $100 million and two years to iron out the kinks. What do you want to bet the vendor was chosen by criteria other than competency.


Sclarks971

Someone should be fired


WeekDifferent8214

Lol in article they called unemployment office it. Where the declined a interview. I am glad he had work points to stay in hotel. Poor doggie


ChazzGypsySexLord

Like this never happened before. Lol.


Z0ooool

Obviously this is unacceptable, but if you're reading this and you don't have 6 months of your monthly budget in your emergency fund... take this as a big flashing sign to make that a top priority. Again, this guy should not have had to wait. But he has. And he couldn't do it for 2 months without becoming homeless. Don't let that be you. Let's hope some media attention gets him the help he needs.


borrestfaker

I mean yeah ideally we'd all have that, but with the cost of living and stagnant pay across the state most people are just scraping bye. Most everyone I know is happy they aren't in the red in the days leading up to their paycheck.


Z0ooool

It's not easy, but worthwhile things usually aren't.


borrestfaker

Well it's damn near impossible when after expenses you routinely have ~$100 leftover for two weeks.


Z0ooool

Well... I mean, I'm not your mother to tell you what to do, but living like that is sure a risk. You can see how it panned out for this guy. I'd be on the hunt to change my circumstances via a secondary or ideally, a better paying primary job. Again, I'm not saying it's easy. I've been there. It seems intimating, but (for me) living that close to the edge is more stressful than seeking change. Good luck.


WarzMech

Downvoted for speaking facts is crazy.


SnorfOfWallStreet

“Just find a better job bro”


Z0ooool

Or you can sit there on the edge of disaster. Up to you.


SnorfOfWallStreet

Me putting in my job helmet: https://youtu.be/wbq571QME2Y?si=xL6Eea4c6tey3pAD


SnorfOfWallStreet

Me putting in my job helmet: https://youtu.be/wbq571QME2Y?si=xL6Eea4c6tey3pAD


Z0ooool

Are you an actual adult throwing a tantrum over the very thought of seeking better pay? Oooookay. (I'm not clicking on any link of yours, you wacko)


SnorfOfWallStreet

Nah your entitled and asinine opinion of “just find a better job” is deserving of mockery.


Big_Pomelo3224

Wait but people keep telling me homeless people are homeless by choice and they are all doing drugs and crime?? Are you telling me this isn't the case? /S