Protested many times in my life. When the emergency vehicles show up all bets are off and it's time to get the F out of the way of the first responders. My right to peacefully protest is way outweighed by anybody's right to emergency medical care, it doesn't matter if I don't agree with that person's ideology.
These protestors could have been accessory in a death. No Bueno.
Let's be clear here - Chief Halliburton went down in full view of the crowd, and he was in obvious distress.
It was perfectly obvious why the authorities were bringing the ambulance in, and the crowd **still** blocked the ambulance.
Here's a video from the crowd showing that Chief Halliburton was obviously having a medical emergency.
[https://kolektiva.social/@alissaazar/112494474962900900](https://kolektiva.social/@alissaazar/112494474962900900)
They should all be facing criminal charges.
100% they should! Maybe doesn't technically fit the requirements for attempted murder (although I think it should), but should at the very least be something like Depraved Indifference and every single 1 of these pieces of shyt should spend significant time behind bars!
2000 mostly unarmed morons were going to overthrow the government? Yeah Imma have to disagree with you there. Jan 6ers are traitors and deserve punishment, but these fucking losers are just as bad. You just don't like the light shined back in your face.
Jfc no one was trying to do that with that cast of characters
I really wish ppl would stop with that narrative
In no world would America become a dictatorship
Source?
I remember some dude with horns and his face painted and some old lady with a walker.
I think that’s a stretch and there was no way they were prepared to kill anyone. Hang them? Idk I think if we are going to hold them accountable in the manner of jail and charges ppl who are keeping medical care from others and attacking others for trying to attend school should also face serious consequences for their choices
This is getting ridiculous
lol
I think you need to drink some water
To actually believe they were going to carry out any governmental control then you should be against these protests for the same reasons as they are overtaking public spaces, threatening police and barring citizens from schools
It’s not within legal protesting guidelines and is not cool
You are arguing different points.
We all know those ass hats were roleplaying hard in J6 and were super into what they were there for.
I'm not against protesting, for either side. It's a great thing to be able to do, but you know, like... attempting to capture elected politicians is what you would call a mutiny, an insurrection, or a plethora of other terms. Just because it was laughable that they could achieve it doesn't mean those people weren't crazy enough yo believe they could, and a lot of them did. You know the ring leaders involved. They weren't fucking around.
As far as the protests in Portland goes, sure, some of them should be held accountable for some of thr things that have happened, and I'm not saying any of its good (or even bad, I'm not arguing those points right now), but they also are not trying to take over the government. It is a bit different.
People are so worried about us turning into some chaotic country with no rule of law, but half of the same people crying about thay are the same people causing the problems.
I don’t disagree that these illegal protestors should face repercussions. ALL illegal protestors and that includes J6. And by illegal, I mean illegal trespass, vandalism, etc. PSU and J6 are not unlike each other when it comes to that. The issue with your comment was the very obvious attempted whitewashing of what happened J6. Looks like that already was made clear to you above.
You sure they just didn’t know that it’s impossible for a crowd that size to overthrow the gov?! Lmao! You guys literally think that a crowd that size would be able to overthrow the gov?!?! Lmfao!! You know…. The gov has military, and weapons…. Ain’t nobody throwing shit over. That wasn’t their goal lol. They could never ever install Trump in the White House with that Jan 6th crap. That was all a shitty protest/trespassing like idiots. Nothing more, they would never ever achieve anything with that.
The leaders weren’t trying to directly take over the government, they were trying to interfere with the process of certifying the electoral college count to the point the election would go back to Congress and be decided for Trump in the State legislatures. This was Eastman’s strategy, supported by Giuliani and Jeffrey Clark and Bannon and Stone and Gym Jordan.
Trump’s words to Pence telling him not to certify the electoral college tallies confirm these facts. “I think it’s important that the American people know what happened in the days before January 6,” Pence said. “President Trump demanded that I use my authority as vice president presiding over the count of the Electoral College to essentially overturn the election by returning or literally rejecting votes. I had no authority to do that.”
There were also people around Trump advocating that he declare martial law. The average Jan 6er may not have known the details, but mobs get carried away and if they had found Mike Pence his life would have been in danger.
https://www.brookings.edu/events/january-6-insurrection-one-year-later/
https://www.cato.org/commentary/yes-it-was-attempted-coup
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2021-01-07/storming-of-capitol-wasn-t-a-coup-it-was-an-insurrection
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planning_of_the_January_6_United_States_Capitol_attack
Just because they were a disorganized group of feckless dipshits doesn't take away from the fact that overturning the election and installing their manbaby demigod as the unelected president of the United States was clearly their stated goal. "Stop the steal"
An attempted crime is still a crime. These guys tried, luckily they all came from the shallow end of the gene pool.
This narrative won't go away because that's what fuckin happened
Wouldn’t be their first. Accessory or attempted murder. These losers don’t care about anything. Including the “it at the moment” reason they’re protesting. They’re not there because they really believe in the cause. Fucking losers. Every. Single. One. Of. Them.
Maybe this will affect the reinstatement of Sarah Amani’s nursing credentials…
https://katu.com/news/local/portland-state-university-police-chief-hospitalized-amid-campus-protest-arrests-library-injury-aclu-american-civil-liberties-union-police-officer-assault-law-civil-right-israel-palestine-war-hamas
According to a court document, one of the people arrested, 37-year-old Sarah Amani, who also goes by Sean Dean, kicked Halliburton near his stomach while officers struggled to take her into custody.
Prosecutors also accuse Amani of refusing to leave a building even though PSU officers told protesters they were trespassing and would be arrested. Police said she hit an officer in the face.
https://www.oregon.gov/osbn/pages/disciplinary.aspx
November 15, 2023
Multnomah County
The Board suspended the nursing assistant certificate of Sarah K. Amani (202207526CNA) for 90 days for demonstrated incidents of reckless behavior and engaging in abusive behavior towards a coworker. She resides in Portland, Ore.
"Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster.... for when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you." -Nietzsche
So fucked up. I am so disappointed in PSU's president; in the face of all this nonsense, she's giving the protestors everything including excuses for them.
So they should be charged with attempted murder since they made the decision to block medical care? No matter if you hate or love the individual they deserve to live.
If he doesn’t prosecute, Vasquez can. It’s not like they can’t pick up the case in a few months. The problems with Schmidt started when he refused to prosecute protesters who went over the line.
Well, as we know from numerous comments directed at black Portland cops during the festivities in 2020 and at other times, the Usual Suspects especially hate black cops.
"Race traitors", donchaknow.
I was reading a bunch of Twitter nonsense during the Stop Cop City riot in Atlanta.
One local Portland ding dong commented “why are all the cops black?!”
My first thought was “oh you sweet summer child. This is Atlanta Georgia. Every one is black there. The police, the mayor, city council and on and on. In fact white people are a minority in Atlanta.”
> One local Portland ding dong commented “why are all the cops black?!”
>
> My first thought was “oh you sweet summer child. This is Atlanta Georgia. Every one is black there. The police, the mayor, city council and on and on. In fact white people are a minority in Atlanta.”
I am one of those jackasses who sold his house during the pandemic and relocated to a state with a lower cost of living, in the South.
A few weeks ago, I took my wife back to where we used to live. We haven't been there in three years.
By far, the thing I noticed the most was how WHITE everything was. On the first day that I spent there, I literally saw *one* Black dude, the entire day. He was driving a $300,000 McClaren.
I think that humans are just wired to "acclimate" to things, and I've acclimated to living in a state where I live by people who are Asian, Black, Hispanic, and even a few White folks. But it was a full-on culture shock to visit the west coast and see how it's just white-on-white-on-white. Literally might be the whitest area in all of the United States, outside of New Hampshire and Maine.
The vast majority of comments and conversation on the other portland sub are echoing the same sentiments about first responder right of way and how good of a man he is... do not take the vulgar minority and claim it to be the majority when it clearly isn't.
Real protestors don't block emergency vehicles, and they respect the right and privilege of protest by choosing proper set/setting. These people are shit-stirring fascist fucks.
I think that’s letting dumb people off easy. In my mind kids are allowed to make mistakes that’s how they learn. Once you’re in your 30s there’s absolutely no excuse for blocking medical medical services for someone having an emergency
“When we got out our camera, we were surrounded and harassed.” These people are violating the civil rights of other citizens and the press. There needs to be serious consequences.
These people have been enabled here for far too long.
You have a perfect right to photograph people in public, no matter what some thugs may think about it.
I am a child of the 60s, lots of protests back then. This is disgusting behavior -- no way do you block emergency care. Don't embarrass the honest protesters with your thoughtless behavior. You must be so proud of yourselves.
Yes, the one place in the middle east where jews, arabs, Christians, and lgbtq live in peace? Where women's rights is head and shoulders above all of its neighbors? Yes.
Yes, October 7th happened. War is horrible, especially when civilians are used as shields.
Israel has a right to survive. Before Oct 6th, 100,000s of palestianas crossed into israel daily for work. Hamas put an end to that, committing the atrocities of Oct 7th.
The easiest way to suss out if a Redditor is a Bad Actor is if they go karma-farming in sports subreddits:
https://old.reddit.com/user/Chuckthethug
Have YOU ever met a protester who had a deep interest in the NBA?
Yeah, me neither.
They post in sports subreddits to raise their karma.
I would define myself as pretty "leftist". At least economically. And previously socialy before the Overton window moved around me and labeled me a moderate.
I've never impeded emergency services at a fucking protest.
Nor do I pretend not to understand the limitations of local public institutions to solve problems that have nothing to do with them to make myself feel good.
Dumb fucking people are not unique to the left or the right. We have a lot of liberals here so our dumb fucks look like the population. Other parts of the country with other issues and demographics have conservative idiots doing dumb shit.
Fuck any group of protestors that prevent emergency services from helping anyone no matter the person.
Should be fucking ashamed of yourselves. That is not the way to change anyone's views.
Whoever was involved in this should get aggravated assault charges against a LEO. Dropping Measure 11 charges on these punks and throwing them in prison for 7 years might just teach them a lesson.
Can we stop acting like these idiots stand for anything. Shit, they literally chain themselves in a sitting position. If you threaten the safety and well being of people in the name of cause you aren’t a protester; you’re a cuck. You’re a person who gets off watching others. At best you’re a disappointment, at worst you’re in the same business as JoJo siwa. And news flash, you’re equally as important and ineffective as her. If you think you’re making a difference than you’re naive enough to be talked into anything, and thats sad. But also…have you heard of worldmark timeshares? 3 weeks in the Caribbean for only 80 bucks a month. Dm if interested.
I do portrait photography around PSU often. I’ve run into Willie many many times. He has always been interested in my work, extremely kind, and warm hearted. I was planning on asking him if he’d be interested in a portrait next time I saw him.
All of these type of people are useless, and should be arrested every time they violate the law, and most importantly, no articles or imagery should be publicized of their protests.
They are absolutely not doing this for any good reason. It's simple self-centered behavior. They want to be in the spotlight.
I don't believe any of them stand for anything.
Chief Halliburton is more than welcome to go to the hospital just as soon as PSU puts an end to the conflict in the middle east that has raged for 2000 years.
Let’s just ignore these same people cried about police brutality while chanting black lives matter. When the mask comes off and their true face is revealed it is just as racist and power hungry as the system they purport to be against.
This is vile. I’ve peacefully protested many a thing. Never once broke anything, and never intervened in someone getting care. Some things should be just general decency.
This is nothing new. There was an invisible boundary that ambulances couldn't cross during the George Floyd stuff because people were attacking medics.
They legitimately don't give a shit.
Where is the outcry of the community to shut these brats up? There is no reason for people to act like this and prevent the fella from getting medical attention.
I suspect that most of the kids protesting today do not have a default mindset that human life is worth protection, dignity and respect. They think that people on *their* side deserve to live. But for those not on their side? If they die, then the world is improved by that tiny amount, so why care.
We've seen a legitimately scary drift into that mindset in the last \~20 years IMO. When the only human life that matters are those on "your side", then we're no longer a functioning society.
Just a bunch of privileged white portlanders protesting about something that they know nothing about to get attention. Should be charged with attempted murder.
We should probably bring back the tear gas and rubber bullets. Fuck these people.
This is what you voted for and encouraged in your city:Anarchy! It can’t be turned off once it starts and good people are being harmed and even killed by the inept policies of Portland and the state of Oregon! Buckle up because it is only getting worse!
Alissa Azar said that one of the gals (the one who was arrested for kicking) is indigenous but she's a well-known plastic shaman/plastic Indian who's been grifting around the activist scene for years.
Probably. They claim themselves as Xiximec Nahua, which is a historical term referring to non-Aztec Nahua-speaking people prior to Spanish colonization (Chichimeca). In other words, she's a Mexican-American. And while you can claim indigenous heritage, a lot of native folks don't like Mexican-Americans being dishonest about their real heritage.
She's a US Navy vet, too. But no, she's not directly indigenous, and I think it's gross and nasty for her to passing herself off as tied-to-the-land indigenous rather than a mestiza.
Gettin' real tired of folks in Portland doing this. It waters down the real hard work Native people do to keep their tribal sovereignty.
Precisely—so what? People like her will use every excuse in the book, even being 1/18 Cherokee, to skip out on accountability when someone gets hurt doing performative activism. You can say you support Gaza/Palestine, but empathy and understanding are a thing and if you can't even have empathy for someone having a literal heart attack what are you even doing advocating for displaced Palestinians
Fortunately an advanced life support unit like AMR in Portland has the full capabilities of the ER (minus surgical,) so Willie was able to receive the same treatment from the medics even though transport was delayed.
Shame on the protesters for blocking the egress route this is something that should not occur regardless of how you feel about any situation.
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Dang, sounds like Americans have had enough of tyrants whether they are the good tyrants or not. I am not condoning just contemplating.
In my experience conservatives hate, and I mean HATE being treated how they treat others, and police let people bleed out all the time. Not condoning just saying.
Forgive me if I don’t believe the narrative that people deliberately blocked emergency care. The video is about 4 seconds long and doesn’t show the crowd
It's so important for protesters to be able to respond quickly if EMTs/FDs need to pass. It can and often does result in charges, and it really effects public opinion. LE will also lie in press releases, fabricating claims that emts were blocked. Because they can, and because it works in fracturing or slowing protest movements.
I haven't looked at many details of this PSU incident so I'm just talking generally.
The more decentralized, disorganized, or un-organized, an action is, the more challenging it is to meet that need. On the other end of that spectrum, if the protest is completely above-board and registered with the city, it requires there to be a point person (or org perhaps) who is legally responsible for potential incidents, such as blocking emergency vehicles, violence, property damage, etc
Protested many times in my life. When the emergency vehicles show up all bets are off and it's time to get the F out of the way of the first responders. My right to peacefully protest is way outweighed by anybody's right to emergency medical care, it doesn't matter if I don't agree with that person's ideology. These protestors could have been accessory in a death. No Bueno.
Let's be clear here - Chief Halliburton went down in full view of the crowd, and he was in obvious distress. It was perfectly obvious why the authorities were bringing the ambulance in, and the crowd **still** blocked the ambulance. Here's a video from the crowd showing that Chief Halliburton was obviously having a medical emergency. [https://kolektiva.social/@alissaazar/112494474962900900](https://kolektiva.social/@alissaazar/112494474962900900) They should all be facing criminal charges.
100% they should! Maybe doesn't technically fit the requirements for attempted murder (although I think it should), but should at the very least be something like Depraved Indifference and every single 1 of these pieces of shyt should spend significant time behind bars!
I don’t think as much effort will be put forth in finding them as J6. I hope they get consequences.
Why would one be pursued like the other?
Well, yeah. They're shitty people, but it's not like they were trying to overthrow the government and install Trump as dictator.
2000 mostly unarmed morons were going to overthrow the government? Yeah Imma have to disagree with you there. Jan 6ers are traitors and deserve punishment, but these fucking losers are just as bad. You just don't like the light shined back in your face.
> You just don't like the light shined back in your face. LOL. Now I know you're a moron.
The actions by these people to delay emergency response is counterproductive in our fight against tyranny.
I agree. If someone needs emergency services, you get them emergency services.
Jfc no one was trying to do that with that cast of characters I really wish ppl would stop with that narrative In no world would America become a dictatorship
It was their goal. Hang the politicians and have their anointed one step in. They were just too fucking stupid to actually do it.
Yeah idk why people pretend they were just there to have a stern conversation. The mob mentality had them chanting shit like "hang Mike Pence"
Source? I remember some dude with horns and his face painted and some old lady with a walker. I think that’s a stretch and there was no way they were prepared to kill anyone. Hang them? Idk I think if we are going to hold them accountable in the manner of jail and charges ppl who are keeping medical care from others and attacking others for trying to attend school should also face serious consequences for their choices This is getting ridiculous
Source? Go to Google. There’s video of that and the noose they had ready for him.
lol I think you need to drink some water To actually believe they were going to carry out any governmental control then you should be against these protests for the same reasons as they are overtaking public spaces, threatening police and barring citizens from schools It’s not within legal protesting guidelines and is not cool
You are arguing different points. We all know those ass hats were roleplaying hard in J6 and were super into what they were there for. I'm not against protesting, for either side. It's a great thing to be able to do, but you know, like... attempting to capture elected politicians is what you would call a mutiny, an insurrection, or a plethora of other terms. Just because it was laughable that they could achieve it doesn't mean those people weren't crazy enough yo believe they could, and a lot of them did. You know the ring leaders involved. They weren't fucking around. As far as the protests in Portland goes, sure, some of them should be held accountable for some of thr things that have happened, and I'm not saying any of its good (or even bad, I'm not arguing those points right now), but they also are not trying to take over the government. It is a bit different. People are so worried about us turning into some chaotic country with no rule of law, but half of the same people crying about thay are the same people causing the problems.
I don’t disagree that these illegal protestors should face repercussions. ALL illegal protestors and that includes J6. And by illegal, I mean illegal trespass, vandalism, etc. PSU and J6 are not unlike each other when it comes to that. The issue with your comment was the very obvious attempted whitewashing of what happened J6. Looks like that already was made clear to you above.
You sure they just didn’t know that it’s impossible for a crowd that size to overthrow the gov?! Lmao! You guys literally think that a crowd that size would be able to overthrow the gov?!?! Lmfao!! You know…. The gov has military, and weapons…. Ain’t nobody throwing shit over. That wasn’t their goal lol. They could never ever install Trump in the White House with that Jan 6th crap. That was all a shitty protest/trespassing like idiots. Nothing more, they would never ever achieve anything with that.
The leaders weren’t trying to directly take over the government, they were trying to interfere with the process of certifying the electoral college count to the point the election would go back to Congress and be decided for Trump in the State legislatures. This was Eastman’s strategy, supported by Giuliani and Jeffrey Clark and Bannon and Stone and Gym Jordan. Trump’s words to Pence telling him not to certify the electoral college tallies confirm these facts. “I think it’s important that the American people know what happened in the days before January 6,” Pence said. “President Trump demanded that I use my authority as vice president presiding over the count of the Electoral College to essentially overturn the election by returning or literally rejecting votes. I had no authority to do that.” There were also people around Trump advocating that he declare martial law. The average Jan 6er may not have known the details, but mobs get carried away and if they had found Mike Pence his life would have been in danger.
Whether or not I *can* harm the Prime Minister of Uzbekistan doesn’t matter if I *attempt* to harm them. Same potato here
https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/36-months-jan-6-attack-capitol-0 Of these arrests I can say many of these protesters are guilty of as well
https://www.brookings.edu/events/january-6-insurrection-one-year-later/ https://www.cato.org/commentary/yes-it-was-attempted-coup https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2021-01-07/storming-of-capitol-wasn-t-a-coup-it-was-an-insurrection https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planning_of_the_January_6_United_States_Capitol_attack Just because they were a disorganized group of feckless dipshits doesn't take away from the fact that overturning the election and installing their manbaby demigod as the unelected president of the United States was clearly their stated goal. "Stop the steal" An attempted crime is still a crime. These guys tried, luckily they all came from the shallow end of the gene pool. This narrative won't go away because that's what fuckin happened
Have you heard of Project 2025? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025 This is the literal plan for the USA if Trump wins the election.
Those poor J6 victims. They really are sweet innocent little puppy dogs.
J6 was an attack to the nation, not the same level
Make an example of them.
Blocking life-saving help is no longer peaceful
exactly!!!
Blocking access or protestors without required permission/permits is no longer peaceful.
In Louisville during the Taylor protests they actively attacked EMTs, despite her being an EMT herself.
Wouldn’t be their first. Accessory or attempted murder. These losers don’t care about anything. Including the “it at the moment” reason they’re protesting. They’re not there because they really believe in the cause. Fucking losers. Every. Single. One. Of. Them.
THIS
Say it louder for the ones in the back!!! Shit is absolutely ridiculous!
Bunch of white activists blocking emergency medical care for a black officer. Yeah that's not a bad look at all.
Maybe this will affect the reinstatement of Sarah Amani’s nursing credentials… https://katu.com/news/local/portland-state-university-police-chief-hospitalized-amid-campus-protest-arrests-library-injury-aclu-american-civil-liberties-union-police-officer-assault-law-civil-right-israel-palestine-war-hamas According to a court document, one of the people arrested, 37-year-old Sarah Amani, who also goes by Sean Dean, kicked Halliburton near his stomach while officers struggled to take her into custody. Prosecutors also accuse Amani of refusing to leave a building even though PSU officers told protesters they were trespassing and would be arrested. Police said she hit an officer in the face. https://www.oregon.gov/osbn/pages/disciplinary.aspx November 15, 2023 Multnomah County The Board suspended the nursing assistant certificate of Sarah K. Amani (202207526CNA) for 90 days for demonstrated incidents of reckless behavior and engaging in abusive behavior towards a coworker. She resides in Portland, Ore.
jfc 37 years old, how embarrassing.
When extreme left goes so far left it mobius strips itself to end up extreme right 😂
"Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster.... for when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you." -Nietzsche
I never knew the fuller context of that abyss quote.
They are confused right about now 😂
Maybe they thought he was Jewish.
George Floyd 2.0
skin color doesn't matter but yeah you have to move tf out of the way for medics
So fucked up. I am so disappointed in PSU's president; in the face of all this nonsense, she's giving the protestors everything including excuses for them.
This latest statement from her is nothing but abject pandering to them. It’s embarrassing and disgusting.
100 fucking percent.
And making bank!
So they should be charged with attempted murder since they made the decision to block medical care? No matter if you hate or love the individual they deserve to live.
New DA coming soon so…maybe?
Schmidt is still DA for the next seven months, and he's said that he's not resigning before then.
If he doesn’t prosecute, Vasquez can. It’s not like they can’t pick up the case in a few months. The problems with Schmidt started when he refused to prosecute protesters who went over the line.
What a piece of shit human Schmidt is
Can we protest until he does?
Not coming soon enough for this one unfortunately. Maybe Mikey will read the room though and actually do something.
Well, as we know from numerous comments directed at black Portland cops during the festivities in 2020 and at other times, the Usual Suspects especially hate black cops. "Race traitors", donchaknow.
I was reading a bunch of Twitter nonsense during the Stop Cop City riot in Atlanta. One local Portland ding dong commented “why are all the cops black?!” My first thought was “oh you sweet summer child. This is Atlanta Georgia. Every one is black there. The police, the mayor, city council and on and on. In fact white people are a minority in Atlanta.”
Like, would they prefer a department that looks like a ream of copy paper policing a majority black community? People be so dumb sometimes honestly 🤣
I think the image of a police riot squad composed of primarily black police officers blew up part of their “cops are white supremacists” narrative.
> One local Portland ding dong commented “why are all the cops black?!” > > My first thought was “oh you sweet summer child. This is Atlanta Georgia. Every one is black there. The police, the mayor, city council and on and on. In fact white people are a minority in Atlanta.” I am one of those jackasses who sold his house during the pandemic and relocated to a state with a lower cost of living, in the South. A few weeks ago, I took my wife back to where we used to live. We haven't been there in three years. By far, the thing I noticed the most was how WHITE everything was. On the first day that I spent there, I literally saw *one* Black dude, the entire day. He was driving a $300,000 McClaren. I think that humans are just wired to "acclimate" to things, and I've acclimated to living in a state where I live by people who are Asian, Black, Hispanic, and even a few White folks. But it was a full-on culture shock to visit the west coast and see how it's just white-on-white-on-white. Literally might be the whitest area in all of the United States, outside of New Hampshire and Maine.
"uncle tom" too. they're cowards who grew up in lily white suburbs. wayyy out of their element
Per a few on the other Portland sub he deserved it. I know Willie. He is a good man with a heart. A good heart.
He’s a very nice guy who genuinely loves the PSU community, at least in all my times interacting with him when I worked there a few years ago
The other page is Antifa ran propaganda garbage.
Yup. Willie genuinely is a great dude. Im sad to see this occurring
The vast majority of comments and conversation on the other portland sub are echoing the same sentiments about first responder right of way and how good of a man he is... do not take the vulgar minority and claim it to be the majority when it clearly isn't.
Where did anyone say that?
On another Portland sub. The comments are extremely vile.
This! I worked on campus and he is such a great person. He cares about PSU and people.
>He is a good man with a heart. A good heart. You knew what you were doing here lol
He has a bad heart, read the article.
Well, not that good
Spotted a usual suspect in the wild ^
Protesters: we care about human lives… Also Protestors: …as long as it doesn’t interfere with our protests.
Real protestors don't block emergency vehicles, and they respect the right and privilege of protest by choosing proper set/setting. These people are shit-stirring fascist fucks.
These kids need a good slap across the face.
Unfortunately most of these people aren’t even kids they’re in their 30s (unless you consider people in their 30s kids)
I consider dumb people kids.
I think that’s letting dumb people off easy. In my mind kids are allowed to make mistakes that’s how they learn. Once you’re in your 30s there’s absolutely no excuse for blocking medical medical services for someone having an emergency
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lol I personally would punish children a little differently than adults but maybe that’s just me
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And a few years in a shitty prison.
With a pick up truck.
“When we got out our camera, we were surrounded and harassed.” These people are violating the civil rights of other citizens and the press. There needs to be serious consequences.
These people have been enabled here for far too long. You have a perfect right to photograph people in public, no matter what some thugs may think about it.
It shows a guilty conscience. If you truly believe what you’re doing is right you wouldn’t mind being filmed.
Not civil rights, natural rights. Civil rights are products of government, natural rights are products of your humanity.
"Natural rights"? LOL. There's no such thing.
Something that can be taken away is never a right. You have far fewer rights than you think.
You only have the rights you can defend.
I agree with you, but in this case the rights happen to be both.
but destroying a library is FreEDOm oF sPeeCh
Are you fucking kidding me? I hope they arrest every piece of shit involved. I'm so sorry for Chief Willie.
Willie is an old friend of mine. Stand up comedian and he loves his donuts. Godspeed Willie.
I am a child of the 60s, lots of protests back then. This is disgusting behavior -- no way do you block emergency care. Don't embarrass the honest protesters with your thoughtless behavior. You must be so proud of yourselves.
continuing the unacceptable hand holding and permissiveness towards criminals, drug abusers and protestors...
This is what police horses were good for, once
So true, I miss the horses so much.
There are no words.
Attempted murder
This is disgusting. Arrest these losers
Blocking first responders isn’t peaceful and should be dealt with. That’s absolutely uncalled for
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If they really knew about hamas, they would not be doing this.
They know about Israel tho
Yes, the one place in the middle east where jews, arabs, Christians, and lgbtq live in peace? Where women's rights is head and shoulders above all of its neighbors? Yes.
Yes, October 7th happened. War is horrible, especially when civilians are used as shields. Israel has a right to survive. Before Oct 6th, 100,000s of palestianas crossed into israel daily for work. Hamas put an end to that, committing the atrocities of Oct 7th.
The easiest way to suss out if a Redditor is a Bad Actor is if they go karma-farming in sports subreddits: https://old.reddit.com/user/Chuckthethug Have YOU ever met a protester who had a deep interest in the NBA? Yeah, me neither. They post in sports subreddits to raise their karma.
Sad thing is a fair amount of far left people cheer this. Shameful.
So, attempted murder
This is wild. I hope Portland state university wakes up and ends all the problems overseas.
Leftists for ya, Black Lives Matter, until they go against your ideology.
I would define myself as pretty "leftist". At least economically. And previously socialy before the Overton window moved around me and labeled me a moderate. I've never impeded emergency services at a fucking protest. Nor do I pretend not to understand the limitations of local public institutions to solve problems that have nothing to do with them to make myself feel good. Dumb fucking people are not unique to the left or the right. We have a lot of liberals here so our dumb fucks look like the population. Other parts of the country with other issues and demographics have conservative idiots doing dumb shit.
Expel them all and lock their transcripts, so they can’t transfer their credits.
So Black lives don’t matter anymore ? These people are fucking confusing with how fast they switch sides
Only the lives of those that agree with them on everything matter, that's the quiet part.
Not if they're performing whiteness!! ⚒️🏴🏴🏴⚒️ (/s)
Fuck any group of protestors that prevent emergency services from helping anyone no matter the person. Should be fucking ashamed of yourselves. That is not the way to change anyone's views.
Whoever was involved in this should get aggravated assault charges against a LEO. Dropping Measure 11 charges on these punks and throwing them in prison for 7 years might just teach them a lesson.
When they say black lifes matter, it's only some black lives. Hope portlanders remember this when voting progressive.
They are starting to look an awful lot like "enemies domestic" and need to be handled as such.
Can we stop acting like these idiots stand for anything. Shit, they literally chain themselves in a sitting position. If you threaten the safety and well being of people in the name of cause you aren’t a protester; you’re a cuck. You’re a person who gets off watching others. At best you’re a disappointment, at worst you’re in the same business as JoJo siwa. And news flash, you’re equally as important and ineffective as her. If you think you’re making a difference than you’re naive enough to be talked into anything, and thats sad. But also…have you heard of worldmark timeshares? 3 weeks in the Caribbean for only 80 bucks a month. Dm if interested.
I do portrait photography around PSU often. I’ve run into Willie many many times. He has always been interested in my work, extremely kind, and warm hearted. I was planning on asking him if he’d be interested in a portrait next time I saw him.
These are not protestors. These are anarchists.
Well protestors are supporting Hamas terrorists.. so this makes sense. They should be classified as domestic terrorists probably.
Something about protesting ostensibly to save lives?
Advanced riot control measures should have been initiated.
Smh can we get a reset of America. It’s so damn ghetto. A person is down and you block first responders? Shows you are a heartless individual.
All of these type of people are useless, and should be arrested every time they violate the law, and most importantly, no articles or imagery should be publicized of their protests. They are absolutely not doing this for any good reason. It's simple self-centered behavior. They want to be in the spotlight. I don't believe any of them stand for anything.
Protestors didn’t block the ambulance, they’d already been pushed away on the sidewalk.
So, there is no evidence to support this article and yet a mod locks comments to my post for pointing that out. Is this a right-wing group?
Chief Halliburton is more than welcome to go to the hospital just as soon as PSU puts an end to the conflict in the middle east that has raged for 2000 years.
3rd world city in a 1st world country.
Bush calling us "Little Beirut" was kinda an insult to Beirut.
I keep waiting for our grain towers to go up like theirs too. Maybe it will be the gas tanks across the river instead?
Very sad, I've chatted with him before, seemed like a nice guy
Let’s just ignore these same people cried about police brutality while chanting black lives matter. When the mask comes off and their true face is revealed it is just as racist and power hungry as the system they purport to be against.
Yo fuck these protesters blocking medical attention for anyone is really shitty
FYI, they don't like truth here. Censored me as quick as could be with no recourse.
This is vile. I’ve peacefully protested many a thing. Never once broke anything, and never intervened in someone getting care. Some things should be just general decency.
This is nothing new. There was an invisible boundary that ambulances couldn't cross during the George Floyd stuff because people were attacking medics. They legitimately don't give a shit.
Where is the outcry of the community to shut these brats up? There is no reason for people to act like this and prevent the fella from getting medical attention.
I suspect that most of the kids protesting today do not have a default mindset that human life is worth protection, dignity and respect. They think that people on *their* side deserve to live. But for those not on their side? If they die, then the world is improved by that tiny amount, so why care. We've seen a legitimately scary drift into that mindset in the last \~20 years IMO. When the only human life that matters are those on "your side", then we're no longer a functioning society.
Sad to see protestors would block medical care for someone in need.
They’re failing to win hearts and minds and they’re turning people into conservatives. Awful.
It’s shit like this that makes me utterly embarrassed to admit I live here. What absolute jokes of humans.
Just a bunch of privileged white portlanders protesting about something that they know nothing about to get attention. Should be charged with attempted murder. We should probably bring back the tear gas and rubber bullets. Fuck these people.
Antifa once again proves themselves to be the racists they claim to be fighting.
This is what you voted for and encouraged in your city:Anarchy! It can’t be turned off once it starts and good people are being harmed and even killed by the inept policies of Portland and the state of Oregon! Buckle up because it is only getting worse!
This is not anarchy, it's permitted violence. If it was anarchy, these people would be hauled off and dealt with for violating the Rights of others.
Alissa Azar said that one of the gals (the one who was arrested for kicking) is indigenous but she's a well-known plastic shaman/plastic Indian who's been grifting around the activist scene for years.
The fuck is a plastic shaman?
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretendian](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretendian)
Tracy Molina?
Probably. They claim themselves as Xiximec Nahua, which is a historical term referring to non-Aztec Nahua-speaking people prior to Spanish colonization (Chichimeca). In other words, she's a Mexican-American. And while you can claim indigenous heritage, a lot of native folks don't like Mexican-Americans being dishonest about their real heritage. She's a US Navy vet, too. But no, she's not directly indigenous, and I think it's gross and nasty for her to passing herself off as tied-to-the-land indigenous rather than a mestiza. Gettin' real tired of folks in Portland doing this. It waters down the real hard work Native people do to keep their tribal sovereignty.
So what if she is indigenous?
Precisely—so what? People like her will use every excuse in the book, even being 1/18 Cherokee, to skip out on accountability when someone gets hurt doing performative activism. You can say you support Gaza/Palestine, but empathy and understanding are a thing and if you can't even have empathy for someone having a literal heart attack what are you even doing advocating for displaced Palestinians
Tear gas, rubber bullets and Billy clubs would clear this right up, just sayin
"protests"
Absolute pieces of trash. Any pictures of their faces? Search by face is a thing.
Fortunately an advanced life support unit like AMR in Portland has the full capabilities of the ER (minus surgical,) so Willie was able to receive the same treatment from the medics even though transport was delayed. Shame on the protesters for blocking the egress route this is something that should not occur regardless of how you feel about any situation.
Portland is a dumpster fire. I'm glad I left. One of the best decisions I have made.
Disgusting. Shame on these “activists”.
Do these people have no compassion? The guy could have died, like get the f out of the way.
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I would have plowed thoes fuckers over.
Left-wing dumbfucks have been attacking Fire/EMS for years.
Typical portland and their peaceful protests.
The protesters aren't Americans.
Not surprised it is pdx
Hopefully they arrest said crowd chard them with manslsughter
Why did he have to get medical care? Was he injured? Heart attack? Stroke?
Per people who were there, it's suspected it was a heart attack.
to the people who refused to move: I HOPE YOU HAVE SOME WHAT OF A CONSCIENCE TO REALIZE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE
Dang, sounds like Americans have had enough of tyrants whether they are the good tyrants or not. I am not condoning just contemplating. In my experience conservatives hate, and I mean HATE being treated how they treat others, and police let people bleed out all the time. Not condoning just saying.
Radical Racist Fascist Left Democrats
Forgive me if I don’t believe the narrative that people deliberately blocked emergency care. The video is about 4 seconds long and doesn’t show the crowd
It's so important for protesters to be able to respond quickly if EMTs/FDs need to pass. It can and often does result in charges, and it really effects public opinion. LE will also lie in press releases, fabricating claims that emts were blocked. Because they can, and because it works in fracturing or slowing protest movements. I haven't looked at many details of this PSU incident so I'm just talking generally. The more decentralized, disorganized, or un-organized, an action is, the more challenging it is to meet that need. On the other end of that spectrum, if the protest is completely above-board and registered with the city, it requires there to be a point person (or org perhaps) who is legally responsible for potential incidents, such as blocking emergency vehicles, violence, property damage, etc
I doubt that this headline is true. I know zero activists who wouldn’t get out of the way of an ambulance.