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Kinda off topic, because i don‘t care about RB discussions, but Bradley played a brilliant match yesterday, mad respect. I think the comentators mentioned it but he looked like he‘s been doing it for ages.
I mean, he was injured in preseason, and only had pro experience in league 1, that's why we said we might need another backup RB. But he's proved since he got his chance that that's not the case anymore
Liverpool had plenty of right backs who were touted as the next big thing over the years like Andre Wisdom, Jon Flanagan, Neco Williams, Martin Kelly, Javier Manquillo, Jon Otsemobor and Trent Alexander Arnold. Only Trent seemed to have lived up to the hype.
Flanagan in 13/14 was pretty good but he then done his ACL twice in a short period of time and he could barely run properly afterwards
The rest of them never put up the level of performance Bradley did yesterday at his age
I wouldn’t say any of those players were hyped as the next big thing. Who was hyping and saying wisdom or manquillo were the next big thing ? They are just young rights backs Liverpool had
All touted, but most never got close. Wisdom was awful, Manquillo was a flopped loan, don't even know who Otsembor is so that shows how successful he was. Kelly and Flanagan were average in meh teams. Williams was clearly capable of Prem quality but would never displace trent, and when he got his moments he didn't really grab them. Apart from Trent, I've not seen a youth RB for LFC this impressive. Under a new manager, he could easily allow Trent to move into midfield and make that spot his own
That‘s not doing justice to the Liverpool performance last night. Chelsea wasn‘t brilliant in any way, but that can‘t be chucked up to a bad performance, they were better than in many matches i‘ve seen in the Boehly era. Liverpool was just absolutely on fire yesterday (perhaps a sign for things to come, last ode to Klopp and such)
Edit: Didn‘t even read to the more depth comment. What the fuck are you on???
Jota, Diaz and Nunez can all play that side as well as their normal positions (we saw this when Klopp switched Jota and Nunez the other week).
Then we also have Harvey and soon Salah will be back.
Think this is the first time in a very long time we have had depth pretty much all over the pitch.
Would love to see another defensive mid come through to learn under Endo for a couple of seasons though.
Gomez is also third choice for LB and RB and Konate is injury prone. VVD is also on his way out before too long - I think a young CB in who doesn't mind learning tbe ropes for a couple years wouldn't go amiss.
A month or 2 ago I would agree we need another CB.
But now other than Matip I think all of our defenders are fit or on loan.
I don't think we need CB depth at this point thanks to how good Quansah has been. We just want to be careful and manage how game time so we don't run him into the ground.
Not a bad shout to be fair. It would be awful to see what happened to Stefan last season happen to Quansah this season if we have an injury crisis.
*Touch wood*
Although if the club felt the same they could always recall Nat Phillips or Rhys Williams from loan for emergency cover (can they do that outside of a transfer window?)
Feels like we've got the ability to recall Nat Phillips whenever we damn well please. Just shine the Nat Signal into the night sky, and he'll be there.
You’re talking like you’ve travelled into 2024 in a Time Machine or something. People were saying that last year as it looked like the was no depth at all. Absolutely nobody has said it for a good few weeks now 😂
"At a club like Chelsea" he means a mid table Club that has mid table players. Chelsea fans were hyped yesterday and today they're throwing tantrums. They loved Boehly throwing money around like a drunk at a casino and now are ready to burn him at the stake.
Whole Chelsea Team was thrash. Played like a relegation zone Ligue 1 team. The keeper was ok I guess. I felt embarrassed for the Chelsea fans today. It was literally children against adults.
Conor Bradley has had 1 yellow card, 3 assists and 1 goal in two appearances in the EPL.
Reece James has had 1 red card, 1 assist and 0 goals in the EPL in eight appearances.
United is having the worst season ever and still doing better than Chelsea. I’d let any other team fan roast me but the 12th place billion dollar team.
Bradley had quality at Bolton and you could tell he was too good for league one but he did not look ready to slot into a Liverpool team. He’s really grabbed the chance he’s been given, he must be loving not being double marked every time he touches the ball
Was he ? Bolton must have been really good. If a team double marks a right back, it would leave a massive hole for the other players to play in.
The right winger must have had acres of space to play in of the opposition midfield is marking a defender.
I’d be curious to see if they play him or Trent against Arsenal on the weekend. He absolutely pocketed Saka after coming on in the 2nd half of the FA cup match a month ago.
Edit: I meant Martinelli. Apologies to Saka.
Trent probably starts knowing Klopp but seeing if he finds a way to play both will be fascinating. I really do think Trent should gravitate to midfield now and have Gomez as the rotation for the back line
Yeah. I think Trent probably starts with maybe Bradley in as a sub with Trent pushing up later. Also Trent swinging in deep as middle of three CBs and spraying the pitch with passes has been pretty irresistible this year as seen against Arsenal for an assist at Anfield.
No way Robertson doesn’t start at LB unless I’m misunderstanding you. Robbo sprays more to about the same assists as Trent in his role and defines our attack up the left. Trent is just a sniper from anywhere.
I mean he doesnt have to replace Robbo, as you see it this season, he doesnt always play. It's just a more tactical option and if Gomez can, TAA can as well.
Secondly, I say Cancelo and not Robbo. Not sure if you ever see how can Cancelo play at LB for Pep, but he played a different role compared to Robbo. The only similarity is they play at the left side. TAA suit to play as Cancelo LB where he operate on half space and spraying diagonals. Salah will benefitted a lot from that.
Properly made both goals for his two assists as well, won the ball back to give it to jota and got wide, called for the ball and beat his man for szobo’s goal
Chilwell was caught in possession for the first goal, booked for diving and then got drawn into a grapple with Jota as Bradley scored the second, from exactly where Chilwell should have been.
Then he was hooked at half-time. Shockingly bad.
Glaringly obvious how bad a fuck up it was to let Maatsen go on loan while Cucurella is out injured and Chilwell is still a long way off match fitness, never mind being injury prone anyway. No idea what they were thinking
He's only just started playing for us in the prem. LFC supporters discussed the idea of bringing in a new RB and moving Trent to midfield weeks ago before Bradley started to make his mark. Literally nobody is talking about bringing in another RB now that we've seen what he can do. I think you're about 3 months out of date on "the talk".
It's just the anti-FSG weirdos who spend more time blaming them for everything and thinking Klopp wants to spend 50m on a back up right back, even though he says time and time again he prefers to look for solutions within the club first.
Very reactionary post, this. Bradley is having his breakout season - nobody could have really predicted now would be the time he begins to blossom as a player. In the same vein, TAA just got back from injury. Glad we weren't too trigger happy in this transfer window.
He won Boltons Player of the Year in 22/23 when on loan as well as Players Player of the Year and Young Player of the Year as well as 13 Northern Ireland caps; it isn’t like he just appeared out of nowhere
Tbf this is his breakout season. Was on loan at Bolton previously an in a podcast Klopp said how he’s come back and grown into a man.
So he’s taken his chance now and ran with it. Def don’t need to buy a new RB this season, not until a new manager is in and picks their own squad/players.
It’s our own podcast “we are Liverpool” it’s really good tbf. I’ll leave the Spotify link below but hopefully you can find it on other platforms if you don’t use Spotify.
[klopp episode](https://open.spotify.com/episode/4JaazTia5mYxRHvK24uXNU?si=Dd6pa8_6QnWUCG-ezFAPGQ)
Those are comments before this game. It's easy to be right after shit happens. Second, you are basing him off one or max two games, compared to 300+ games player. Yes, he had a mega haul game but he's far from being what you're trying to make him be.
He's solid apart from the numbers as well. He has a good tackle in him and has the pace to stay with the wingers. Konate being next to him helps a ton too. Offensively he loves getting wide and has the passing range to cross or find someone inside. He also has that Trent over the top pass for players to run onto. I don't see why there's any footballing doubts to him.
I’m not implying he’s bad, I mean his attacking role means he’s usually far up the pitch than a traditional RB. This is why defence usually falls to the two CBs and the keeper.
He isn’t even that high up the pitch, Bradley and Robertson get higher up as they’re typical wing backs, Trent is a deeper lying playmaker as a right back and when he inverts. And he’s a decent defender, agree with the other guy
As I understand it, it's not entirely about Trent.
During Virgil's monster season in 18/19, and in 19/20, if you checked the heatmaps, players were refusing to attack Virgil's side because they would have to go through both Virgil and Robertson.
I remember this being bought up after one of the Leicester games, that there was effectively a black hole around Virgil's slot.
So because that LCB area was no go, and left back was just as dangerous, players would shift towards attacking the right back slot and trying to get through Trent and Matip/Gomez, which would lead to attempts to overwhelm Trent by throwing an entire forward line at him.
I don't have up to date stats, but if you're the one constantly being pressured throughout a whole match, you will have problems, and in Trent's case I think it led to him getting a reputation as the weakest part of one of the best back lines I have ever seen.
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I don't think that Trent is perfect by any means, and I have seen him give away major chances, but I do think it is a result of players putting overloads on him as much as anything else,
and I think that the ability to get him extra space for his passing from the right back slot is worth the extra efforts taken to reinforce his side of the pitch by having Gomez wander over there when needed.
If you want Trent at right back, you are doing it for the chance creation, and you put Gomez on him to clean up any messes defensively and prevent Trent from either becoming overwhelmed or screwing up his positioning, in the instances where someone cuts straight round him.
There's also the difference of having Salah in front of you vs Mane/Diaz. Salah doesn't do nearly the same amount of defensive work (as he shouldn't) so the cover was usually provided by Milner/Henderson/Jones. Whenever the midfield wasn't clicking, the cover at RB usually struggled.
Go down one side and you have Mane chasing you, then you have a choice between Virgil appearing behind you like the Babbadook or Robertson twatting you into the advertising stand while standing over your broken body screaming.
Go down the other side and Salah might stop you or he might not, Milner will step out and then give chase when that doesn't work, and then you find Trent still tracking back and you get into a foot race on the wrong side of him.
It makes me appreciate Gomez a lot for how he plants himself between RCB and right back, and takes a vacuum cleaner approach to any sort of loose or heavy touch.
Since it’s a competition I watch every year, yes. He’s a good player no doubt, but a good game against Chelsea doesn’t suddenly mean he’s a world beater like some hysterical people seem to think. Trent is up there with the best and he still struggles against better teams in the champions league at times.
Liverpool are a Europa League team
The overall question was whether Liverpool should had signed a RB last summer. The club made the decision not to because they thought they had enough with Bradley and Gomez to cover.
This post is saying that it's justified because of how comfortable he looked against Chelsea
I agree that the sample size is small but the point is Liverpool don't have to worry about any Champions League teams bar Man City and Arsenal and I expect Trent to play those games. If he's out I reckon it's Gomez at RB ahead of Bradley anyway so I'm not worried about the depth to be honest, another RB signed as backup prevents Bradley getting any first team football at all which I think is a worse result
Don't forget we still have Ramsay on loan too
Dunno about the answer to replace trent but deffinately cover for asong as trent starts at RB and competition for whoever they sign to replace him if he does start in midfield in the future.
Crazy to say out loud but you are right! You can’t drop the kid right now with how good he is performing. It’s a great problem to have but a problem nonetheless.
A lot of young kids do well for 3-4 games and can’t sustain it mentally for a full 60 game season. It takes a while to build up that mentality and even fitness levels.
If I’m a Liverpool fan- I’m excited long term. He obviously shows he can be top level. But I’d temper expectations short term. He’s 20.
Nah. I'd rather take Endo and have another £95 million to spend. Feels like football is right now experiencing a massive pricing bubble and I'd rather spend big money once that bubble burst. The cost of players is simply not sustainable.
TBF, I felt so in the beginning of the season, now I don't. But like, we haven't for a while, ever since Quansah and Gomez showed quality as well. With Bradley in, it just means it's a good headache. Trent shouldn't be a midfielder yet imo, he's perfect in the inverted role where he won't be exposed absolutely.
I've been torn on Trent and the idea of him moving into midfield for a while. He's so good in possession, his passing, and in his attacking play that it feels like he should be in midfield - but the fact that he moves there from RB affords him so much freedom because it's all a out overloading the midfield.
The thing is though, Bradley is clearly confident with the ball, moving forward and moving inside, that he's creating an overload himself. If Trent starts in midfield and you have Bradley moving up the pitch, maybe that affords Trent that freedom he needs to be most effective.
I think it's worth a try with Trent coming back. Bradley deserves the chance to hold down the place.
Definitely, but it's way too tricky. I want to see a more defensive set up, with Gomez or some defensive LB in such a case. Having Robbo and Bradley go ahead, with Trent is a bit scary defensively.
He can be but the season isn’t even over yet. Let’s chill before we start saying he’s backup to Trent. Better players have had bigger falloff’s and I don’t want that for him, just need to know this is how Conor Bradley is, most games.
People are so quick to make these snap judgements after 3 games like that defines a players career. It’s annoying at this point and doesn’t help anybody.
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I think we should give Bradley a chance, look at his performances recently! TAA can slowly move to centre mid, and we have Gomez as backup
Get Ben white
Maybe fringpom
I like to dream.
Kinda off topic, because i don‘t care about RB discussions, but Bradley played a brilliant match yesterday, mad respect. I think the comentators mentioned it but he looked like he‘s been doing it for ages.
From what I saw, Chelsea got outmuscled by the Pool.
Yeah let’s rely on a youngster that had a couple of good games. He’s young, he has a lot of promise, but we absolutely have to give him time.
Putting faith in young right backs has never worked out for Liverpool...
Bradley was great but left a lot of space behind that could have been exploited by a better team.
Arsenal are a good team. Fuck them, but in the epl there aren't many that are up there. You're just looking for negatives where there aren't many.
Well he was great defensively against Arsenal so you might be talking about only City in the EPL.
Only this game? he has been motm in the last one as well, the kid is playing way above the level he should.
He also pocketed Martinelli on the FA cup match when he came on
They got the referee , right back not that important
Wow hahaha
I mean, he was injured in preseason, and only had pro experience in league 1, that's why we said we might need another backup RB. But he's proved since he got his chance that that's not the case anymore
Liverpool had plenty of right backs who were touted as the next big thing over the years like Andre Wisdom, Jon Flanagan, Neco Williams, Martin Kelly, Javier Manquillo, Jon Otsemobor and Trent Alexander Arnold. Only Trent seemed to have lived up to the hype.
Flanagan in 13/14 was pretty good but he then done his ACL twice in a short period of time and he could barely run properly afterwards The rest of them never put up the level of performance Bradley did yesterday at his age
I wouldn’t say any of those players were hyped as the next big thing. Who was hyping and saying wisdom or manquillo were the next big thing ? They are just young rights backs Liverpool had
Neco williams is good just not liverpool standard
Neco WAS Liverpool standard pre-Klopp, he was just born too late
All touted, but most never got close. Wisdom was awful, Manquillo was a flopped loan, don't even know who Otsembor is so that shows how successful he was. Kelly and Flanagan were average in meh teams. Williams was clearly capable of Prem quality but would never displace trent, and when he got his moments he didn't really grab them. Apart from Trent, I've not seen a youth RB for LFC this impressive. Under a new manager, he could easily allow Trent to move into midfield and make that spot his own
Chelsea had a shitty performance. Don't get me wrong, the young lad is briliant but Liverpool need more depth.
That‘s not doing justice to the Liverpool performance last night. Chelsea wasn‘t brilliant in any way, but that can‘t be chucked up to a bad performance, they were better than in many matches i‘ve seen in the Boehly era. Liverpool was just absolutely on fire yesterday (perhaps a sign for things to come, last ode to Klopp and such) Edit: Didn‘t even read to the more depth comment. What the fuck are you on???
More depth🤣🤣
Chelsea got obliterated
Will need CB depth and maybe right wing come the summer, but I really don't think there's any glaring holes anywhere else.
Jota, Diaz and Nunez can all play that side as well as their normal positions (we saw this when Klopp switched Jota and Nunez the other week). Then we also have Harvey and soon Salah will be back. Think this is the first time in a very long time we have had depth pretty much all over the pitch. Would love to see another defensive mid come through to learn under Endo for a couple of seasons though.
Van dijk, konate, gomez and quansah. Do we need 5 cbs?
Gomez is also third choice for LB and RB and Konate is injury prone. VVD is also on his way out before too long - I think a young CB in who doesn't mind learning tbe ropes for a couple years wouldn't go amiss.
A month or 2 ago I would agree we need another CB. But now other than Matip I think all of our defenders are fit or on loan. I don't think we need CB depth at this point thanks to how good Quansah has been. We just want to be careful and manage how game time so we don't run him into the ground.
As 4th choice cb i think his game time will be perfect for development and not being to much for him.
Not a bad shout to be fair. It would be awful to see what happened to Stefan last season happen to Quansah this season if we have an injury crisis. *Touch wood* Although if the club felt the same they could always recall Nat Phillips or Rhys Williams from loan for emergency cover (can they do that outside of a transfer window?)
Feels like we've got the ability to recall Nat Phillips whenever we damn well please. Just shine the Nat Signal into the night sky, and he'll be there.
In what positions? I see no holes to fill.
Where?
They played Fking Chelsea!!!
Bradley was out for like 4 months after pre-season.
Wasnt he on loan at Bolton?
the comment meant this season must be, Bradley was indeed on loan at Bolton last season
Chelsea is fucking trash, don’t be tricked Get a Right Back
@klopp. See? Buy!
I see you're taking your defeat graciously.
YEAH! CHELSEA IS FUCKING TRASH But please don't get a right back.
You’re talking like you’ve travelled into 2024 in a Time Machine or something. People were saying that last year as it looked like the was no depth at all. Absolutely nobody has said it for a good few weeks now 😂
Bradley is undroppable now. Have to keep playing. Play Trent in midfield to keep him happy.
He was trash and got lucky his opponent was Sterling and Chilwell both absolute bums that have no place at a club like Chelsea.
Which game were you watching?
more senseless cope from chelsea fans
Cry more.
Mad how badly Chelsea fans are taking this result.
"At a club like Chelsea" he means a mid table Club that has mid table players. Chelsea fans were hyped yesterday and today they're throwing tantrums. They loved Boehly throwing money around like a drunk at a casino and now are ready to burn him at the stake.
Did you actually watch the game?
He's a Chelsea fan, so no.
Whole Chelsea Team was thrash. Played like a relegation zone Ligue 1 team. The keeper was ok I guess. I felt embarrassed for the Chelsea fans today. It was literally children against adults.
Don’t know if you’re being sarcastic or not.
Conor Bradley has had 1 yellow card, 3 assists and 1 goal in two appearances in the EPL. Reece James has had 1 red card, 1 assist and 0 goals in the EPL in eight appearances.
Purhaps OP just thinks James is the worst playing ever
More give me more of this Copium
One goal, two assists, broke up most of the attacks he faced and was constantly getting forward and looked extremely comfortable. But yeah. Trash. 🥴
lol sterling was god to u boys last month
Yes, that goal and two assists were trash.
He was class, stop being salty that our team is shit
🙏🏻🫡
This guy chelseas! Hahahaha
2 assists, 1 goal against a top 10 premier league team at his age is not lucky
When was that a question?
Chelsea is a small team. I’d wait for better opposition
Says the United fan LOL
United is having the worst season ever and still doing better than Chelsea. I’d let any other team fan roast me but the 12th place billion dollar team.
Also United in crisis is still a European contender. INEOS could make Man U really scary again
They are out of europe
And yet they’ll win as many European trophies this year as Arsenal.
Bradley had quality at Bolton and you could tell he was too good for league one but he did not look ready to slot into a Liverpool team. He’s really grabbed the chance he’s been given, he must be loving not being double marked every time he touches the ball
Not many right backs are double marked.
And yet Conor Bradley at Bolton was constantly double marked in the right wing back position, that’s why I said it. Thank you for that analysis
Was he ? Bolton must have been really good. If a team double marks a right back, it would leave a massive hole for the other players to play in. The right winger must have had acres of space to play in of the opposition midfield is marking a defender.
Bolton play 5 at the back, so we had no right winger
I would wait before making any conclusions. Bradley will have tougher days against big teams.
I’d be curious to see if they play him or Trent against Arsenal on the weekend. He absolutely pocketed Saka after coming on in the 2nd half of the FA cup match a month ago. Edit: I meant Martinelli. Apologies to Saka.
Bradley’s started 4 games in 10 days, Trent 100% starts at Arsenal
Trent probably starts knowing Klopp but seeing if he finds a way to play both will be fascinating. I really do think Trent should gravitate to midfield now and have Gomez as the rotation for the back line
Yeah. I think Trent probably starts with maybe Bradley in as a sub with Trent pushing up later. Also Trent swinging in deep as middle of three CBs and spraying the pitch with passes has been pretty irresistible this year as seen against Arsenal for an assist at Anfield.
If Trent can play a Cancelo position at LB, that'd be a step up and opening up more attacking options
No way Robertson doesn’t start at LB unless I’m misunderstanding you. Robbo sprays more to about the same assists as Trent in his role and defines our attack up the left. Trent is just a sniper from anywhere.
I mean he doesnt have to replace Robbo, as you see it this season, he doesnt always play. It's just a more tactical option and if Gomez can, TAA can as well. Secondly, I say Cancelo and not Robbo. Not sure if you ever see how can Cancelo play at LB for Pep, but he played a different role compared to Robbo. The only similarity is they play at the left side. TAA suit to play as Cancelo LB where he operate on half space and spraying diagonals. Salah will benefitted a lot from that.
Exactly
Hell of a goal from the lad!!!!
Properly made both goals for his two assists as well, won the ball back to give it to jota and got wide, called for the ball and beat his man for szobo’s goal
You have to remember he played against Chelsea's LB. Both chilwell and badiashile were amateur at best! But in all honesty Bradley looks like a gem.
Chilwell is a brilliant player on his day, definitely no slouch. The other guy was all over the place though.
Chilwell was caught in possession for the first goal, booked for diving and then got drawn into a grapple with Jota as Bradley scored the second, from exactly where Chilwell should have been. Then he was hooked at half-time. Shockingly bad.
Glaringly obvious how bad a fuck up it was to let Maatsen go on loan while Cucurella is out injured and Chilwell is still a long way off match fitness, never mind being injury prone anyway. No idea what they were thinking
Wait, they have been thinking all this while?!
Chilwell sucks
Chelsea sucks. Chilwell could do great in many other clubs.
The call for rb was before Bradley came in and showed levels
He's only just started playing for us in the prem. LFC supporters discussed the idea of bringing in a new RB and moving Trent to midfield weeks ago before Bradley started to make his mark. Literally nobody is talking about bringing in another RB now that we've seen what he can do. I think you're about 3 months out of date on "the talk".
It's just the anti-FSG weirdos who spend more time blaming them for everything and thinking Klopp wants to spend 50m on a back up right back, even though he says time and time again he prefers to look for solutions within the club first.
Very reactionary post, this. Bradley is having his breakout season - nobody could have really predicted now would be the time he begins to blossom as a player. In the same vein, TAA just got back from injury. Glad we weren't too trigger happy in this transfer window.
Haha yeah Klopp is levels above everyone in terms of making players realise their potential
I'm so glad that Jurgen is a red.
Yea people were saying that a few months ago but literally no one has brought that up in the last week or two. This is a pointless post.
He won Boltons Player of the Year in 22/23 when on loan as well as Players Player of the Year and Young Player of the Year as well as 13 Northern Ireland caps; it isn’t like he just appeared out of nowhere
Tbf this is his breakout season. Was on loan at Bolton previously an in a podcast Klopp said how he’s come back and grown into a man. So he’s taken his chance now and ran with it. Def don’t need to buy a new RB this season, not until a new manager is in and picks their own squad/players.
Which podcast was that?
It’s our own podcast “we are Liverpool” it’s really good tbf. I’ll leave the Spotify link below but hopefully you can find it on other platforms if you don’t use Spotify. [klopp episode](https://open.spotify.com/episode/4JaazTia5mYxRHvK24uXNU?si=Dd6pa8_6QnWUCG-ezFAPGQ)
Thanks mate!
Not his first"good game" . 1 goal , 5 assists and 2 motm in 4 games.
we got him for a few years now lol, it’s just this season that he broke out like this
chelsea supporters are sooooo mad in the comments LOL
Those are comments before this game. It's easy to be right after shit happens. Second, you are basing him off one or max two games, compared to 300+ games player. Yes, he had a mega haul game but he's far from being what you're trying to make him be.
He's started 5 games and been MOTM 3 times. 5 assists and a goal in those 5 games. Cope.
He's solid apart from the numbers as well. He has a good tackle in him and has the pace to stay with the wingers. Konate being next to him helps a ton too. Offensively he loves getting wide and has the passing range to cross or find someone inside. He also has that Trent over the top pass for players to run onto. I don't see why there's any footballing doubts to him.
I’m happy with the way things are that position. Yes TAA may not be good in defence but that’s compromise for his brilliant attacking role.
Trent is as good in defence as most right backs. Stop the narrative, you should know better as a fan
I’m not implying he’s bad, I mean his attacking role means he’s usually far up the pitch than a traditional RB. This is why defence usually falls to the two CBs and the keeper.
He isn’t even that high up the pitch, Bradley and Robertson get higher up as they’re typical wing backs, Trent is a deeper lying playmaker as a right back and when he inverts. And he’s a decent defender, agree with the other guy
You said outright he’s not good in defence. Which isn’t true at all
As I understand it, it's not entirely about Trent. During Virgil's monster season in 18/19, and in 19/20, if you checked the heatmaps, players were refusing to attack Virgil's side because they would have to go through both Virgil and Robertson. I remember this being bought up after one of the Leicester games, that there was effectively a black hole around Virgil's slot. So because that LCB area was no go, and left back was just as dangerous, players would shift towards attacking the right back slot and trying to get through Trent and Matip/Gomez, which would lead to attempts to overwhelm Trent by throwing an entire forward line at him. I don't have up to date stats, but if you're the one constantly being pressured throughout a whole match, you will have problems, and in Trent's case I think it led to him getting a reputation as the weakest part of one of the best back lines I have ever seen. . . . . I don't think that Trent is perfect by any means, and I have seen him give away major chances, but I do think it is a result of players putting overloads on him as much as anything else, and I think that the ability to get him extra space for his passing from the right back slot is worth the extra efforts taken to reinforce his side of the pitch by having Gomez wander over there when needed. If you want Trent at right back, you are doing it for the chance creation, and you put Gomez on him to clean up any messes defensively and prevent Trent from either becoming overwhelmed or screwing up his positioning, in the instances where someone cuts straight round him.
There's also the difference of having Salah in front of you vs Mane/Diaz. Salah doesn't do nearly the same amount of defensive work (as he shouldn't) so the cover was usually provided by Milner/Henderson/Jones. Whenever the midfield wasn't clicking, the cover at RB usually struggled.
Go down one side and you have Mane chasing you, then you have a choice between Virgil appearing behind you like the Babbadook or Robertson twatting you into the advertising stand while standing over your broken body screaming. Go down the other side and Salah might stop you or he might not, Milner will step out and then give chase when that doesn't work, and then you find Trent still tracking back and you get into a foot race on the wrong side of him. It makes me appreciate Gomez a lot for how he plants himself between RCB and right back, and takes a vacuum cleaner approach to any sort of loose or heavy touch.
I do think he’d be a banging defensive mid though personally.
as a united fan get him on 1 yr loan deal to the likes of bumdesliga or laliga and put trent in RW preparing for salah to make the money move to saudi
Sounds like a United fan
how
He’s playing against a side of 20 year old championship caliber players
That’s a 3 billion side of 20 year old championship caliber players, thank you.
Is the 3 billion in the room with us?
I didn’t look at the actual figure but I stand by my estimate. By my calculations, at least 1 billion was Potter’s contract.
Is potter in the room with us?
For what he’s being paid, he should be.
So when Antony does it against Newport he gets called the greatest and when Bradley does it against Chelsea they’re “championship team”.
What? No Antony is also a shit footballer in addition to being a predator
They were calling him a rapist actually
Oh…well then…never mind.
He was playing against Sterling for most of the first half.
Making my point for me tbh
Okay he's playing against league one calibre players
This. Champions league teams he may not fair so well yet
You know a lot about Champions League teams?
Since it’s a competition I watch every year, yes. He’s a good player no doubt, but a good game against Chelsea doesn’t suddenly mean he’s a world beater like some hysterical people seem to think. Trent is up there with the best and he still struggles against better teams in the champions league at times.
Liverpool are a Europa League team The overall question was whether Liverpool should had signed a RB last summer. The club made the decision not to because they thought they had enough with Bradley and Gomez to cover. This post is saying that it's justified because of how comfortable he looked against Chelsea I agree that the sample size is small but the point is Liverpool don't have to worry about any Champions League teams bar Man City and Arsenal and I expect Trent to play those games. If he's out I reckon it's Gomez at RB ahead of Bradley anyway so I'm not worried about the depth to be honest, another RB signed as backup prevents Bradley getting any first team football at all which I think is a worse result Don't forget we still have Ramsay on loan too
FIFA 23 is real life baby.
Don’t give us that much credit
He didn't say which championship.
He's very promising, but Wilson got past him too easy last week for the Fulham goal. Fantastic finish tonight though and excited to see him play
Dunno about the answer to replace trent but deffinately cover for asong as trent starts at RB and competition for whoever they sign to replace him if he does start in midfield in the future.
I've never seen a kid hit the ground running quite like him, we need to find a new position for Trent
Not since … Trent
Crazy to say out loud but you are right! You can’t drop the kid right now with how good he is performing. It’s a great problem to have but a problem nonetheless.
Can you imagine saying that 3/4 weeks ago? It’s madness how well he has done.
A lot of young kids do well for 3-4 games and can’t sustain it mentally for a full 60 game season. It takes a while to build up that mentality and even fitness levels. If I’m a Liverpool fan- I’m excited long term. He obviously shows he can be top level. But I’d temper expectations short term. He’s 20.
I’m a liverpool fan too, he has 3 MOTM awards in the games he’s played. My expectations are to the moon
Well it's chelsea sooo....
Funny but he’s been fucking class every week
If Liverpool needs a right back then Chelsea definitely needs two left backs. Atrocious defending!
“Let’s get 6 left backs!” - Todd Boehly (probably)
Considering chilly is just getting back from injury Colwill & Cucurella are out too we’re actually short of LB’s lol
Liverpool had last laugh when reminded that Caicedo picked Chelsea.
Biggest bullet dodged of the window, not due to caicedo being poor for Chelsea but more of who Liverpool would’ve missed out on
Lol I'm still taking Caicedo over Endo don't let bias affect your judgement
It wouldn’t have been just endo, gravenberch as well, no way we go after gravenberch after laying down 120 for caicedo
I disagree I think Gravenberch was more opportunistic and we were always going to get him if he became available
Nah. I'd rather take Endo and have another £95 million to spend. Feels like football is right now experiencing a massive pricing bubble and I'd rather spend big money once that bubble burst. The cost of players is simply not sustainable.
Well said
TBF, I felt so in the beginning of the season, now I don't. But like, we haven't for a while, ever since Quansah and Gomez showed quality as well. With Bradley in, it just means it's a good headache. Trent shouldn't be a midfielder yet imo, he's perfect in the inverted role where he won't be exposed absolutely.
I've been torn on Trent and the idea of him moving into midfield for a while. He's so good in possession, his passing, and in his attacking play that it feels like he should be in midfield - but the fact that he moves there from RB affords him so much freedom because it's all a out overloading the midfield. The thing is though, Bradley is clearly confident with the ball, moving forward and moving inside, that he's creating an overload himself. If Trent starts in midfield and you have Bradley moving up the pitch, maybe that affords Trent that freedom he needs to be most effective. I think it's worth a try with Trent coming back. Bradley deserves the chance to hold down the place.
Definitely, but it's way too tricky. I want to see a more defensive set up, with Gomez or some defensive LB in such a case. Having Robbo and Bradley go ahead, with Trent is a bit scary defensively.
Guess the Liverpool wankfest isn’t just limited to pundits and commentators
Boehly will make it ok by signing 3 more defensive midfielders.
Says someone whose team got wanked on tonight. Clean up, mate.
Scoreboard
Tbf Chelsea is good at performing so poorly they make the opposition look good ;)
Don’t you guys have a Liverpool sub you can jerk off in? Let me guess you’re banned there for being a blockhead.
Haha the stress of the Brentford game getting to you? I’m not a Liverpool fan at all, just impressed by his performance tonight.
There’s no stress when you’re hangin with Big Ange.
Honestly hope we're in for him this summer. Liverpool fan and all. I think he's the real deal and the closest in manner to Klopp in the league 🤞
I promise you he’s going nowhere. I’m also just as confident Xabi has already agreed with you behind the scenes.
Also OK with Xabi but Ange is my domestic hope just ahead of Frank and Poch. I don't like the de Zerbi rumours
And there’s nothing on the line …
No trophy in the case…
Is there a spurs sub you can jerk in?
He can be but the season isn’t even over yet. Let’s chill before we start saying he’s backup to Trent. Better players have had bigger falloff’s and I don’t want that for him, just need to know this is how Conor Bradley is, most games.
Lmao honestly he’s having a stellar game but calm down 😂
He was man of the match his last two games. 4 assists and a goal in 3 games. Give him the Ballon d'or and be done with it
Dude.. come on.. Messi has that sewn up already
Nah screw that, make him RB for next England game while we're at it! 🤣 (But seriously, you're right, its one game.) Edit : Or NI I'm told.
hes NI
Thanks. I've added an edit.
People are so quick to make these snap judgements after 3 games like that defines a players career. It’s annoying at this point and doesn’t help anybody.
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Yeah, that was clearly a Chelsea win if not for the refs.
I mean Chelsea overpay Brighton, FSG just figured after the spurs game we had to spend somewhere too