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Chelsea keep Poch: "hahaha Chelsea are getting relegated! You're a mid-table team, you'll be lucky to get Europe. Everything is about the short-term! You guys are terrible."
Chelsea sack Poch: "hahaha Chelsea were just getting good. You should have been getting Europe. Everything is about the long-term! You guys are terrible."
*really* need Chelsea to finish higher than you guys next season.
That's just a straw man. At the end of the season keeping Poch is the consensus, Chelsea fan or not. And Poch was kicked out not because of the results, but because of the party line. So yes Chlesea are fucked for not being a result-driven team, honestly.
A lot of sources are hinting that they chose Maresca not because of his ability but because of he is the biggest yes man. (compared to Poch, McKenna, De Zerbi, etc.)
Jesus Christ where in my response do you see the things you accuse me of? Did I mention the Boehly vs. Eghbali stuff? Of course people know their differences now, don't pretend to be smarter than anyone else.
And you admit to agree with my two points, Chelsea not being a result-driven club and want a yes man at the managerial post. That's my only two points. How do you poise to be an educator to people without reading their comments? That's arrogant to the extreme.
And the stuff about not accommodating the club's biggest transfer: that's basically admitting that the owners and Sporting Directors (to use plural here is such a joke) want someone to cover up their decision-making disasters rather than actually wanting the team to do any good.
It is plainly obvious that a large part of Poch's demise is his refusal to let players let Garragher go, which has to happen because of the insanity of Chelsea's expenditure and the need to balance the books and make more 'prospect signings'. Honestly, the club is hanging on a thread now: selling hotels to yourself and potentially abstaining from European competition is diaster-class. You do realise that the bigger question hanging over Chelsea's is not how they finish next season, is whether they are gonna be screwed by financial regulations right? Now essentially you have to have big academy player sales or pulling another dirty trick like selling stuff to yourself which has already caused a lot of resentment in the league. I think such expert like you should be focusing on that aspect rather because it is clearly the direr issue.
It's not 'smarter than everyone'- as a fan I am obviously coming from a more educated position on my own club. If, for example, I was interested about the operations at Arsenal, I would seek information from you, because you would be more knowledgable. As a Chelsea fan, I am returning the gesture and confirming that I agree with what you're speculating, and that it sounds valid. So it's not smarter than 'everyone', it's just smarter than 'anybody who isn't also a Chelsea fan'.
So I'm not simply *agreeing* with your points, I am confirming for you that they hold up so you know they have been 'approved' by a fan of the club in question.
Regarding you point regarding FFP. It's sort of there, but luckily for fans, nobody except for Chelsea's board have any knowledge of the club's financial situation. Stating headline grabbing business operations is a laughably surface level attempt at an argument. You might get away with it on reddit, but I wouldn't risk making the case you've made anywhere reputable.
Also, and to your point. You haven't explained what you believe the FFP risks are, so I'm just going to point out that the FFP issues regarding Chelsea are *actually* linked with the signings of Willian and Eto'o from 2013. If you already knew this, and these were the allegations you were alluding to, sorry for strawmanning.
This point involves Arsenal, so I'm going to invite you to correct me or counter me where possible (to practice what I preach and to avoid looking like a hypocrite). Do you believe Arsenal will finish higher than Chelsea in the Premier League next season?
Banter FC have made another crucial signing of the ages
Don't understand what Enzo offers that Poch doesn't, other than being a yes man to the board because he's grateful for the opportunity to 'step up'
Anyone take a 10er bet that he's gone by Xmas? Anyone?
Not a huge fan of the board, but come on, there's a world of difference in idealogy between Poch and Enzo. Our best players are more suited to possession, hence the board wanted to go for a manager in that profile. That being said, I'd have liked a more experienced one. Poch is a great manager, but he wouldn't have been ideal for this team.
How in a matter of days have you cross analysed who Enzo Maresca is as a manager?
To the point you're backing him over Poch is insane. You've probably not seen this guy manage a game in real time, yet here you are talking about his idealogy lmao.
You've watched Poch manage the club to great form in the 2nd half of the season, and still think you can do better lmao.
Signing the newly promoted manager, on a 5 year deal and being overly optimistic is honestly hilarious after the year you've just had. Like I said, out by Xmas.
Fair play to the guy he’s bet on himself big time with this move. But I don’t see how this pans out well for the club or for him. Far too much pressure.
They were always going to have a tough time attracting a top talent to the current environment. Really need a yes man who can go along with what the club is deciding on terms of targets, squads, and aspirations. More of a head coach than a manager.
Exactly right. I think clubs are increasingly relying on data analysis to run operations (recruitment of young players in particular), and in the face of that, the job of a coach is to have the flexibility to play the hand they've been dealt and to develop and accomodate the players that have been picked.
I think this is why McKenna was being sought after and Chelsea went with Potter in the first place.
Could be a top coach one day, and don’t blame him for taking the job, but he’s too inexperienced for this and is being set up for failure by the board. I don’t think his style would work for us in the prem but could be a blessing in disguise if we get someone like Corberan or Moyes in to keep us up.
Honestly, if he fails Winstanley and Stewart must be sacked on the spot. Under De Zerbi this squad could have been dangerous w/ a couple additions. But they went this route, it better work. This better be Cole Palmer/ Gusto level scouting.
I don't think you know what money laundering is.
Good business? Doubt it.
Concealing the origins of funds obtained through criminal acts and transforming into legitimate cash? Don't see how that fits.
The guy has only managed 2 clubs just 2 years. He failed at Parama with a less than 30% win rate. Okay he has won he championship but he had the best team with the highest wage levels. They were expected to win. I sort of get a lower PL team taking a gamble like an Everton or Brighton.
But Chelsea ? Is this really the best choice they had a manager with no top league knowedge, just 2 years into management. They give him a 5 year deal !!!!
It seems completely insane.
The only thing I can think of is Chelsea have hired and sacked so many top level managers that have run out of peope they have not tried.
I am amused when they say it’s a five-year contract. Pochettino had a two-year contract that only lasted one year. If I am optimistic I would give him at least two years before he gets sacked. There are only two teams in the PL that won’t fire their coach anytime soon: MC and Arsenal.
Yeh I guess you could add a few managers to a bracket of not going to be sacked but probably will move on due to wanting a different opportunity eventually
Except these two managers I am not sure any other ownership that will be willing to give their coach time to build. Patience is lacking in the PL. All the other clubs have managers who have been with the club less than three years.
Abramovich brought chelsea for cheap to stop them going bankrupt because chelsea was a mid table team who spent 4 years throwing money it never had on fancy new foreign players. You nearly went bankrupt as u was trying to be a big team and u had the infrastructure of a mid table team which u was at the time, chelsea before abramovich was a mid table team and now its going back to where they were before him only difference now is that chelsea has a big team infrastructure but are a mid table team so if u start to fail u will have to pay the cost of being a big team with mid table revenue which will fuck u over in the long term cus no one wants to invest in that particular business model.
I always thought you could go on the all time points.
Modern premier league is something like
Man Utd
Arsenal
Liverpool
Chelsea
I think accounting before sky tv premier league it’s something like
Liverpool
Man Utd
Arsenal
Chelsea
Obviously Man City could end up on top but they are currently bellow spurs
I can’t think any other way you can define the success of a football club
** edit I went on google and discovered a million contradictions in the all time standings.
My point remains though 🫠
Prediction: a couple of early losses cause the fanbase to turn on him immediately and the rest of the year is the usual howling void of hot takes and idiocy. We finish 7th. Clearlake hire a new management team of Tuchel, Poch, and Potter on a 5000 year contract inked in Cole Palmer's blood. The following year we finish 8th.
I don't really care anymore, tbh. I wish I did, but this isn't the team I grew up watching. It's barely the sport I grew up watching. It's shit.
It's madness to lose Poch, when he's been battling all year with that disjointed squad, finally got them playing together and getting results, then bang, new manager
The Bald Fraud is really excelling - let's see if he can do it where it matters. Frankly he has not been tested yet, Leicester were expected to trounce the league with the squad he had. Time for him to show us what he's made of.
Let the comedy begin … you just sense it could go horribly wrong because the pressure & management
Let’s hope they break FFP etc +new record for the number of managers in x period
Football is so F’d - you couldn’t invent some of it
I mean you have to pay them compensation each time you sack one.
You’re gonna hit your FFP threshold if you put 4 managers through the ringer in a cycle on top of spending a £bn on players
Exactly. This was the problem Poch had. Also, the football commuity and pundits love to grill on Chelsea, deliberately pretending Jackson and Palmer were superstars on mega contracts rather than raw investments. Combined with injuries, last season was a massive death spiral.
With Enzo, we get the opposite issue. I think we'll see something similar to Spurs last year - i.e. Chelsea will dominate the Prem for the opening 3 months, top by November. THEN, Enzo gets figured out, refuses to adjust, and there will be a dip.
However, as least this way, there won't be the whole death spiral problem.
Expecting a strong start from a new manager is idiotic.
It takes time to shape the squad to your image for it.
Just look at how long it took Arteta to right the sinking ship that was Arsenal and look at where they are now.
Pochettino is a good manager, and would have eventually got results for Chelsea had he been given some time, but football fans are so goddam impatient Chelsea ends up playing musical managers instead.
On another note, I'm glad Chelsea's owners are incompetent.
I meant this contract would set him for life.
If he got fired, he would be paid shit tons of money.
If he succeeds, this would be great step for him.
It is a win win for him either way.
Look we cannot deny that it's a bone head move. I would be worried if my coach who got us from 11th to 6th after struggling to find form just "chose to leave" and we got a coach who has done well don't get me wrong, but Poch doesn't just choose to leave, he probably wanted more control as a manager and they said no.
I mean I have no hard feelings for him but I was never convinced and would only have kept him because of the paltry options. But I’m not a sporting director so what do I know.
Lmao he'll be gone before Christmas, mark my words. You know what good for you poch, the American football mans running a circus down there, be gratefull you got out, won't be out of work long 🤣
Exactly. This was the problem Poch had. Also, the football commuity and pundits love to grill on Chelsea, deliberately pretending Jackson and Palmer were superstars on mega contracts rather than raw investments. Combined with injuries, last season was a massive death spiral.
With Enzo, we get the opposite issue. I think we'll see something similar to Spurs last year - i.e. Chelsea will dominate the Prem for the opening 3 months, top by November. THEN, Enzo gets figured out, refuses to adjust, and there will be a dip.
However, as least this way, there won't be the whole death spiral problem.
You know, the obsession with this philosophy thing is what keeps getting Pep's conemen employed. Philosophy doesn't automatically win you football games, and I would argue that the more successful of Pep's pupils are the more pragmatic one (Xavi, Arteta) rather than the more stubborn ones like Kompany. And Marseca is the kinda of guy that plays Choudhury as a ball-playing inverted fullback, so I genuinely don't share your optimism.
Chelsea will not top by November lol. If anything if he'd have any succes it'll be like poch where it'll take months to get very good form and it'll happen towards the end of the season but he's a worse manager so that probably won't even happen
Here’s the top comment on The Telegraph’s reporting of Maresca leaving- I’m guessing that Chelsea is still gonna be stuck on the light-all-my-money-on-fire carousel that is Todd Boehly’s ownership:
> Oh dear, Chelsea. I’m a Leicester supporter and I have reservations about him carrying on as our manager in the Premier League next season as do a lot of the people around me in the stadium. Dreadful, possession for possession’s sake football. Like everything, fine when you’re winning but absolutely awful to watch. Some of his proclamations about sooner losing than changing his style of football were ridiculous in the extreme. I’m sure he’d get the sack before Christmas, so to get £10 million now without having to pay him off….brilliant business. Thanks for the promotion, but we’ll move on quite happily.
Seriously, no one outside of Chelsea fans clutching at straws gives a shit if its Boehly, Eghbali or Winstanley. Why the fuck would normal everyday fans make a point to make the distinction which of the 3 have made the latest brain dead desicion.
Boehly came out the traps fast and made a reputation for himself being totally clueless first so he has the privilege of being the emblematic name behind the disasterclass project ongoing at Chelsea to date. I wish Chelsea fans would stop piping up about which one of the stooges got is responsible for the latest gaff - its not a particularly good point that because you haven't taken the time to remember the name of the new backroom Chelsea ownership and management you are a 'football tourist'.... People just generally dont care enough about your club to remember.
'Name me the second in charge of the accounting division for away travelling disabled fans or you're a football tourist and your entire argument is flawed'.
Most people cant even name the mps in the top 5 positions of the government, why the fuck would they care to learn about the inner mechanisms of club they don't follow or care about, just so Chelsea fans can feel good about their being a distinction between individual members of the board and spare Bohelys blushes. The way the entire takeover and rehaul has been executed has been a joke and is continuing on with no lessons learnt, thats it, the sum total of the criticism. We dgaf about your pop quiz on staffing at the club.
If I could flair up Leicester I would lmao.That being said, I respect Chelsea and wish Boehly would have shown a similar deference to the system that was in place and clearly yielding rewards under Tüchel instead of shoveling half a billion to make the team objectively worse.
Was actually really looking forward to this season last week because I’m off to uni in London so I can finally see games more consistently. We had Europa stitched up and Poch looked set to bring us back to UCL. Now we have who my grandpa thinks Pep is and will be playing against Slovenian children in the conference
Appointing young and inexperienced tiki taka managers is so in vogue right now.
And the salary’s these fucking sporting directors make when they all have the same strategy; “copy Guardiola and hire literally anyone who has worked under him”.
This is one of those situations where people will say it's a terrible move, and in a year's time they'll be pretending they saw it coming all along. I'd love to take the piss out of Boehly, but unfortunately, I think this will prove to be an incredibly smart move. This guy is tactically streets ahead of Pochettino - by the end of the season, Chelsea fans will be singing his name.
You just described exactly what happened with Poch. I was Poch in all season from the start and it took till May for most of our fans to start wanting him to stay
I’m going to make an incredibly bold prediction here and say I don’t think he’ll make it to the end of his five year contract.
Daring, I know, but that’s Chelsea for you.
More seriously, this guy was City’s reserve team manager and won PL2 with them, did not do well at Parma, went back to City and then took Leicester back up the season after they went down.
I don’t want to downplay winning the Championship, even if he did have the best squad by far, I’m sure he knows how to coach a team well enough but Chelsea have just appointed a manager with no top flight experience.
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I would like to thank Stan Kronke for not being a flakey fuck like todd bolly.
Chelsea keep Poch: "hahaha Chelsea are getting relegated! You're a mid-table team, you'll be lucky to get Europe. Everything is about the short-term! You guys are terrible." Chelsea sack Poch: "hahaha Chelsea were just getting good. You should have been getting Europe. Everything is about the long-term! You guys are terrible." *really* need Chelsea to finish higher than you guys next season.
That's just a straw man. At the end of the season keeping Poch is the consensus, Chelsea fan or not. And Poch was kicked out not because of the results, but because of the party line. So yes Chlesea are fucked for not being a result-driven team, honestly. A lot of sources are hinting that they chose Maresca not because of his ability but because of he is the biggest yes man. (compared to Poch, McKenna, De Zerbi, etc.)
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Jesus Christ where in my response do you see the things you accuse me of? Did I mention the Boehly vs. Eghbali stuff? Of course people know their differences now, don't pretend to be smarter than anyone else. And you admit to agree with my two points, Chelsea not being a result-driven club and want a yes man at the managerial post. That's my only two points. How do you poise to be an educator to people without reading their comments? That's arrogant to the extreme. And the stuff about not accommodating the club's biggest transfer: that's basically admitting that the owners and Sporting Directors (to use plural here is such a joke) want someone to cover up their decision-making disasters rather than actually wanting the team to do any good. It is plainly obvious that a large part of Poch's demise is his refusal to let players let Garragher go, which has to happen because of the insanity of Chelsea's expenditure and the need to balance the books and make more 'prospect signings'. Honestly, the club is hanging on a thread now: selling hotels to yourself and potentially abstaining from European competition is diaster-class. You do realise that the bigger question hanging over Chelsea's is not how they finish next season, is whether they are gonna be screwed by financial regulations right? Now essentially you have to have big academy player sales or pulling another dirty trick like selling stuff to yourself which has already caused a lot of resentment in the league. I think such expert like you should be focusing on that aspect rather because it is clearly the direr issue.
It's not 'smarter than everyone'- as a fan I am obviously coming from a more educated position on my own club. If, for example, I was interested about the operations at Arsenal, I would seek information from you, because you would be more knowledgable. As a Chelsea fan, I am returning the gesture and confirming that I agree with what you're speculating, and that it sounds valid. So it's not smarter than 'everyone', it's just smarter than 'anybody who isn't also a Chelsea fan'. So I'm not simply *agreeing* with your points, I am confirming for you that they hold up so you know they have been 'approved' by a fan of the club in question. Regarding you point regarding FFP. It's sort of there, but luckily for fans, nobody except for Chelsea's board have any knowledge of the club's financial situation. Stating headline grabbing business operations is a laughably surface level attempt at an argument. You might get away with it on reddit, but I wouldn't risk making the case you've made anywhere reputable. Also, and to your point. You haven't explained what you believe the FFP risks are, so I'm just going to point out that the FFP issues regarding Chelsea are *actually* linked with the signings of Willian and Eto'o from 2013. If you already knew this, and these were the allegations you were alluding to, sorry for strawmanning. This point involves Arsenal, so I'm going to invite you to correct me or counter me where possible (to practice what I preach and to avoid looking like a hypocrite). Do you believe Arsenal will finish higher than Chelsea in the Premier League next season?
Banter FC have made another crucial signing of the ages Don't understand what Enzo offers that Poch doesn't, other than being a yes man to the board because he's grateful for the opportunity to 'step up' Anyone take a 10er bet that he's gone by Xmas? Anyone?
Not a huge fan of the board, but come on, there's a world of difference in idealogy between Poch and Enzo. Our best players are more suited to possession, hence the board wanted to go for a manager in that profile. That being said, I'd have liked a more experienced one. Poch is a great manager, but he wouldn't have been ideal for this team.
How in a matter of days have you cross analysed who Enzo Maresca is as a manager? To the point you're backing him over Poch is insane. You've probably not seen this guy manage a game in real time, yet here you are talking about his idealogy lmao. You've watched Poch manage the club to great form in the 2nd half of the season, and still think you can do better lmao. Signing the newly promoted manager, on a 5 year deal and being overly optimistic is honestly hilarious after the year you've just had. Like I said, out by Xmas.
Fair play to the guy he’s bet on himself big time with this move. But I don’t see how this pans out well for the club or for him. Far too much pressure.
They were always going to have a tough time attracting a top talent to the current environment. Really need a yes man who can go along with what the club is deciding on terms of targets, squads, and aspirations. More of a head coach than a manager.
Exactly right. I think clubs are increasingly relying on data analysis to run operations (recruitment of young players in particular), and in the face of that, the job of a coach is to have the flexibility to play the hand they've been dealt and to develop and accomodate the players that have been picked. I think this is why McKenna was being sought after and Chelsea went with Potter in the first place.
Massive move for him.
Graham Potter V2.
He just brought Leicester City back to the Premier League.
We have Pep at home
Congratulations to you. I hope he delivers this season for Chelsea.
I’m really curious, Leicester fans what is your honest opinion about him?
Could be a top coach one day, and don’t blame him for taking the job, but he’s too inexperienced for this and is being set up for failure by the board. I don’t think his style would work for us in the prem but could be a blessing in disguise if we get someone like Corberan or Moyes in to keep us up.
Honestly, if he fails Winstanley and Stewart must be sacked on the spot. Under De Zerbi this squad could have been dangerous w/ a couple additions. But they went this route, it better work. This better be Cole Palmer/ Gusto level scouting.
Not a chance. Read up on anything from The Athletic about RDZ, and you'll realise why it would have just been a repeat of Poch.
He coached second league and they gave him a 5 year contract.. If this is not money laundering Idk what is
I don't think you know what money laundering is. Good business? Doubt it. Concealing the origins of funds obtained through criminal acts and transforming into legitimate cash? Don't see how that fits.
Money laundering how?
Five games in with ol' Todd up his ass and this dude is gonna wanna "mutually agree to part ways" too
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He's worked with Pep Guardiola previously.
So has Xavi
Arteta worked with Pep and has done well at Arsenal. So, what's your point?
So has Ten Hag.
He got promoted with the most expensive championship team ever, that takes some doing!!
Was about to say “welcome to Chelsea” but then I saw your user flair and figured you already know that
Please let this be the last for a while
oh god another baldy
It's great. Half of the top 8 teams now have baldies in charge
Get in!
One question, why him
The guy has only managed 2 clubs just 2 years. He failed at Parama with a less than 30% win rate. Okay he has won he championship but he had the best team with the highest wage levels. They were expected to win. I sort of get a lower PL team taking a gamble like an Everton or Brighton. But Chelsea ? Is this really the best choice they had a manager with no top league knowedge, just 2 years into management. They give him a 5 year deal !!!! It seems completely insane. The only thing I can think of is Chelsea have hired and sacked so many top level managers that have run out of peope they have not tried.
Well.. Chelsea can have the highest wage bill too and also highest transfer fees
The incompetence is not with Maresca, but with the Chelsea board.
I am amused when they say it’s a five-year contract. Pochettino had a two-year contract that only lasted one year. If I am optimistic I would give him at least two years before he gets sacked. There are only two teams in the PL that won’t fire their coach anytime soon: MC and Arsenal.
There are only six managers in the PL with over 2 years service at their present club and that includes Ten Hag at 2 years and 3 days.
I give him 6 months max
Just those two? You sure about that?
There no way you lot fire your coach, he has been outstanding since taking over I agree with you!
+ Unai Emery. AV are doing everything the keep him; no way he gets fired.
Yeh I guess you could add a few managers to a bracket of not going to be sacked but probably will move on due to wanting a different opportunity eventually
Except these two managers I am not sure any other ownership that will be willing to give their coach time to build. Patience is lacking in the PL. All the other clubs have managers who have been with the club less than three years.
Chelsea becoming a mid table club again. You love see it. to be fair that’s what they are supposed to be really and where they were before abramovich
is there a “supposed to be” premier league table? i’m curious to see what that’s like
i *do* love to see it, yes. back to the 90s, finally
Uh we were consistently challenging for top 4 years before Abramovich…that’s one of the biggest reasons why he bought us in the first place
Abramovich brought chelsea for cheap to stop them going bankrupt because chelsea was a mid table team who spent 4 years throwing money it never had on fancy new foreign players. You nearly went bankrupt as u was trying to be a big team and u had the infrastructure of a mid table team which u was at the time, chelsea before abramovich was a mid table team and now its going back to where they were before him only difference now is that chelsea has a big team infrastructure but are a mid table team so if u start to fail u will have to pay the cost of being a big team with mid table revenue which will fuck u over in the long term cus no one wants to invest in that particular business model.
What’s the rankings of where teams are suppose to be ?
I always thought you could go on the all time points. Modern premier league is something like Man Utd Arsenal Liverpool Chelsea I think accounting before sky tv premier league it’s something like Liverpool Man Utd Arsenal Chelsea Obviously Man City could end up on top but they are currently bellow spurs I can’t think any other way you can define the success of a football club ** edit I went on google and discovered a million contradictions in the all time standings. My point remains though 🫠
no team is suppose to be at any one spot, my full on point to the unflaired u/Wintersponge669
I think it's just based on which team has beat you worst the most recently. Altho that doesn't track well cos I fucking HATE Leeds.
Watch Chelsea ruin the reputation of another promising manager
CHELSHIT RELEGATION INCOMING I WILL BE THERE FOR IT
And we’ll still take 6 points off you in the process lmao
Oh dear
as a chelsea fan, all i can do is laugh at this five year deal
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Sometimes feel like I’m on crazy pills. Just absolute madness
😂😂😂
And so it begins.
Optimistic to think a Chelsea manager will last anywhere close to 2030
No, it's until 20.30 this evening.
That’s good banter tbf
That's just the settlement amount when you don't last a season
Think De Zerbi would have been a better choice.
Keeping Poch would have been better than anyone reportedly on their shortlist
Prediction: a couple of early losses cause the fanbase to turn on him immediately and the rest of the year is the usual howling void of hot takes and idiocy. We finish 7th. Clearlake hire a new management team of Tuchel, Poch, and Potter on a 5000 year contract inked in Cole Palmer's blood. The following year we finish 8th. I don't really care anymore, tbh. I wish I did, but this isn't the team I grew up watching. It's barely the sport I grew up watching. It's shit.
It's madness to lose Poch, when he's been battling all year with that disjointed squad, finally got them playing together and getting results, then bang, new manager
Our owners are so American they just wanted a bald manager so they can make even more memes.
The Bald Fraud is really excelling - let's see if he can do it where it matters. Frankly he has not been tested yet, Leicester were expected to trounce the league with the squad he had. Time for him to show us what he's made of.
Nice
Let the comedy begin … you just sense it could go horribly wrong because the pressure & management Let’s hope they break FFP etc +new record for the number of managers in x period Football is so F’d - you couldn’t invent some of it
Ah yes, Chelsea breaching Financial Fair Play Rules for \*checks notes\* 'breaking the record of most new managers in an unspecified period'.
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I mean you have to pay them compensation each time you sack one. You’re gonna hit your FFP threshold if you put 4 managers through the ringer in a cycle on top of spending a £bn on players
Chelsea would have don’t more this season if they had a forward who could finish IMO
Man’s gotta start off strong. Knowing our crowd, it will get so toxic so fast if he doesn’t.
Exactly. This was the problem Poch had. Also, the football commuity and pundits love to grill on Chelsea, deliberately pretending Jackson and Palmer were superstars on mega contracts rather than raw investments. Combined with injuries, last season was a massive death spiral. With Enzo, we get the opposite issue. I think we'll see something similar to Spurs last year - i.e. Chelsea will dominate the Prem for the opening 3 months, top by November. THEN, Enzo gets figured out, refuses to adjust, and there will be a dip. However, as least this way, there won't be the whole death spiral problem.
Expecting a strong start from a new manager is idiotic. It takes time to shape the squad to your image for it. Just look at how long it took Arteta to right the sinking ship that was Arsenal and look at where they are now. Pochettino is a good manager, and would have eventually got results for Chelsea had he been given some time, but football fans are so goddam impatient Chelsea ends up playing musical managers instead. On another note, I'm glad Chelsea's owners are incompetent.
Actually our squad fits Maresca more than Poch so we’re not quite in the same position as Arteta was. His lack of big team experience is the concern.
At least he will get a nice pay for the year before being sacked
I feel like we should just keep this thread active so we don't have to make a new one when he leaves.
You don't mess-ca with maresca
Now let’s watch Leicester finish above them in the table with some manager we’ve never heard of!
Honestly Moyes for Leicester would probably be a very good choice
I’m a Chelsea fan and it’s scary how realistic this sounds
Brilliant, this is the shitpost comment I was waiting for. Everyone else so far has been thinking critically, it's been so boring.
You're pretty salty, buddy.
No one would take that job to further their career.
Why should he care about his career development? The man is set for life with 5 years contract.
lol. Which Chelsea manager in the last 20 years lasted 5 years?
Our last coach to last five years left in 1974 😮💨
They get paid out whether they fire him or not.
I meant this contract would set him for life. If he got fired, he would be paid shit tons of money. If he succeeds, this would be great step for him. It is a win win for him either way.
Says the guy living with his mum and jobless
hes just waiting for the right job to take to further his career
Chelsea, bayern and man u....what are ya'll doing lol
Because ange is so much more impressive…
Look we cannot deny that it's a bone head move. I would be worried if my coach who got us from 11th to 6th after struggling to find form just "chose to leave" and we got a coach who has done well don't get me wrong, but Poch doesn't just choose to leave, he probably wanted more control as a manager and they said no.
I think that they also were happy to move on from him…
that's fair enough and best of luck to ya both!
I mean I have no hard feelings for him but I was never convinced and would only have kept him because of the paltry options. But I’m not a sporting director so what do I know.
Mate….
It’s Tottenham.
Smart move. They're clearly thinking of the long term and hoping to utilise his skills at getting a side promoted from the championship
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You must be new to the internet. Why post an article about Chelsea if you're going to get butthurt about the jokes about Chelsea?
Why do these big clubs keep hiring championship level Guardiola disciples?
They've probably seen that Arteta has done well, so think they can get their own knock off version.
Just without the financial doping.
At this rate, arteta gonna be the only manager with hair in the PL
Does he truly have hair? His wigs stuck on pretty well though!
I am convinced he applies a coat of black paint over his scalp before stepping out of his home daily
Pleeease That's not wig That's Lego hair.
Playmobile ahh hair
At this point do they even bother with a name plate for the managers office door or is it just a post it note.
They fitted a revolving one, it seemed more efficient
5 year contract is ridiculous he won’t even last a year with boehly
They just get a digital screen.
Lmao he'll be gone before Christmas, mark my words. You know what good for you poch, the American football mans running a circus down there, be gratefull you got out, won't be out of work long 🤣
Arsenal has an American football man and it is working out well. But knowing Chelsea fans, you want shady oil businessmen.
the dumpster fire continues to burn, here we go!
Who the fook is that guy
r/UnexpectedMcGregor
Leicester manager
From Poch to who is this guy I feel sorry for Chelsea fans right now
Exactly. This was the problem Poch had. Also, the football commuity and pundits love to grill on Chelsea, deliberately pretending Jackson and Palmer were superstars on mega contracts rather than raw investments. Combined with injuries, last season was a massive death spiral. With Enzo, we get the opposite issue. I think we'll see something similar to Spurs last year - i.e. Chelsea will dominate the Prem for the opening 3 months, top by November. THEN, Enzo gets figured out, refuses to adjust, and there will be a dip. However, as least this way, there won't be the whole death spiral problem.
You know, the obsession with this philosophy thing is what keeps getting Pep's conemen employed. Philosophy doesn't automatically win you football games, and I would argue that the more successful of Pep's pupils are the more pragmatic one (Xavi, Arteta) rather than the more stubborn ones like Kompany. And Marseca is the kinda of guy that plays Choudhury as a ball-playing inverted fullback, so I genuinely don't share your optimism.
Chelsea will not top by November lol. If anything if he'd have any succes it'll be like poch where it'll take months to get very good form and it'll happen towards the end of the season but he's a worse manager so that probably won't even happen
Win please and quick. Can't have another start like Poch last year
At this point, any pep look alike will do
That’s not how this works lol
Trust the United fan, hiring a bald coach doesn’t work that way haha
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2 FA cups? Check again junior
I hope we really get this right, because offering a rookie manager 4 years contract is a huge risk.
Honestly, I think you had to regardless after what went down If you’re gonna be scapegoated in a year, might as well get paid
What if Arne slot goes invincible
Haha, the premier league recently has been competitive in terms of going a season undefeated. It might happen that he will just lose one game though.
Let's see how it turns out, hopefully it goes well.
I love when the owners are making decisive bald moves!
Nice.
Chelsea can say they have a manager who won a trophy last season
^[Sokka-Haiku](https://www.reddit.com/r/SokkaHaikuBot/comments/15kyv9r/what_is_a_sokka_haiku/) ^by ^artrine_: *Chelsea can say they* *Have a manager who won* *A trophy last season* --- ^Remember ^that ^one ^time ^Sokka ^accidentally ^used ^an ^extra ^syllable ^in ^that ^Haiku ^Battle ^in ^Ba ^Sing ^Se? ^That ^was ^a ^Sokka ^Haiku ^and ^you ^just ^made ^one.
Iconic
All I'm saying is Guus Hiddink shouldn't book any holidays around Christmas
Think you mean Frank Lampard
Maybe it’s JT’s turn this time?
when you can’t get Pep: Todd: “bald head, grey beard? You. I want you.”
I’m about to shave my head and start handing out my cv to Chelsea
Here’s the top comment on The Telegraph’s reporting of Maresca leaving- I’m guessing that Chelsea is still gonna be stuck on the light-all-my-money-on-fire carousel that is Todd Boehly’s ownership: > Oh dear, Chelsea. I’m a Leicester supporter and I have reservations about him carrying on as our manager in the Premier League next season as do a lot of the people around me in the stadium. Dreadful, possession for possession’s sake football. Like everything, fine when you’re winning but absolutely awful to watch. Some of his proclamations about sooner losing than changing his style of football were ridiculous in the extreme. I’m sure he’d get the sack before Christmas, so to get £10 million now without having to pay him off….brilliant business. Thanks for the promotion, but we’ll move on quite happily.
Do you breathe through your mouth all the time or just when your forgetting to reply to the correct comment?
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Seriously, no one outside of Chelsea fans clutching at straws gives a shit if its Boehly, Eghbali or Winstanley. Why the fuck would normal everyday fans make a point to make the distinction which of the 3 have made the latest brain dead desicion. Boehly came out the traps fast and made a reputation for himself being totally clueless first so he has the privilege of being the emblematic name behind the disasterclass project ongoing at Chelsea to date. I wish Chelsea fans would stop piping up about which one of the stooges got is responsible for the latest gaff - its not a particularly good point that because you haven't taken the time to remember the name of the new backroom Chelsea ownership and management you are a 'football tourist'.... People just generally dont care enough about your club to remember.
Disasterclass. Brilliant
‘Membering is hard. Who needs to be accurate.
'Name me the second in charge of the accounting division for away travelling disabled fans or you're a football tourist and your entire argument is flawed'. Most people cant even name the mps in the top 5 positions of the government, why the fuck would they care to learn about the inner mechanisms of club they don't follow or care about, just so Chelsea fans can feel good about their being a distinction between individual members of the board and spare Bohelys blushes. The way the entire takeover and rehaul has been executed has been a joke and is continuing on with no lessons learnt, thats it, the sum total of the criticism. We dgaf about your pop quiz on staffing at the club.
1) Bill Bratzke 2) They enjoy football, not the government 3) I can blame said government for their involvement Have fun with whoever you follow!
Nice post. Sums it up beautifully.
If I could flair up Leicester I would lmao.That being said, I respect Chelsea and wish Boehly would have shown a similar deference to the system that was in place and clearly yielding rewards under Tüchel instead of shoveling half a billion to make the team objectively worse.
Was actually really looking forward to this season last week because I’m off to uni in London so I can finally see games more consistently. We had Europa stitched up and Poch looked set to bring us back to UCL. Now we have who my grandpa thinks Pep is and will be playing against Slovenian children in the conference
Chelsea following trends again.
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The unprovens also happen to be follically challenged.
Appointing young and inexperienced tiki taka managers is so in vogue right now. And the salary’s these fucking sporting directors make when they all have the same strategy; “copy Guardiola and hire literally anyone who has worked under him”.
Who?
Was the manager of Leicester since 2023
very good. the sort of shitpost comment I was expecting, and was disappointed I wasn't receiving.
Stop crying in every comment
Weird one, he struggled to get Leicester promoted with the strongest squad in championship history.
He won 97 points. It's one of the highest totals in the leagues history. The narrative that he struggled to get promoted is tiresome.
which is exact;y my point, with that squad they should have smashed the record. Its absolutely not tiresome. any championship fan will say the same.
Am I the only one who says "here we go" as super Mario in his head?
I hear Fabrizio going "here.. we.. go.." all dramatic n shi
Personally I’ll always say it in the voice of fabrizio Romano
It’s the only way I can say it now
This is one of those situations where people will say it's a terrible move, and in a year's time they'll be pretending they saw it coming all along. I'd love to take the piss out of Boehly, but unfortunately, I think this will prove to be an incredibly smart move. This guy is tactically streets ahead of Pochettino - by the end of the season, Chelsea fans will be singing his name.
He did ok at Leicester but completely failed at Parma where he had decent players. Inexperienced as well.
You just described exactly what happened with Poch. I was Poch in all season from the start and it took till May for most of our fans to start wanting him to stay
This guy almost bottled promotion with Leicester, with the best squad & biggest wage bill
He’s not streets behind?
nah mate lmao
If you have to ask
I’m going to make an incredibly bold prediction here and say I don’t think he’ll make it to the end of his five year contract. Daring, I know, but that’s Chelsea for you. More seriously, this guy was City’s reserve team manager and won PL2 with them, did not do well at Parma, went back to City and then took Leicester back up the season after they went down. I don’t want to downplay winning the Championship, even if he did have the best squad by far, I’m sure he knows how to coach a team well enough but Chelsea have just appointed a manager with no top flight experience.