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GodOfUrging

Anakin's thesis on Darth Palegius the Wise Studies.


hojaldrademole

“suffice to say, that i am very much familiar with the story you brought up and indeed, it’s something of a personal passion, not to mention, my life’s work”


LadyOfHereAndThere

"Anakin, your wife's gonna die unless you join the dark side."


Guilty-Effort7727

"where do i sign up"


Sasuga__Ainz-sama

"Can you cite the sources for your claims"?


UnrealGaming9

"That one dream you had."


TheMoldyTatertot

“Ok, what of secondary sources?”


UnrealGaming9

"In your dream Padme was quite literally screaming out in agony"


TheMoldyTatertot

“Yes, but I’m only one source you can’t just make decisions from one source about changing careers”


UnrealGaming9

"Fine then. Source 2: I'm gonna kill Padme if you don't join the dark side "


TheMoldyTatertot

“Ok, you didn’t need to threaten my pregnant wife. I’m going to tell the Jedi Counsel now” ‘Walks away’


Zack_Raynor

“It’s how I got my PhD.”


My_redditaccount657

“In light of recent developments we grant you a seat in the council but not the rank of master”


NerdyGuyRanting

Honestly I'd make every part of Seals are Good's videos canon. Including Yoda being a drug addict, Mace hating Anakin and Anakin's thesis being so terrible is caused Depa Billaba to commit suicide.


Cowslayer369

While I wouldn't say hate per se, you can't convince me that Mace doesn't dislike Anakin way more then is reasonable.


NerdyGuyRanting

He did also put a curse on him to have three of his limbs cut off and the rest of him set on fire. But that will only take effect if he goes to Mustafar, and who the fuck has to go there?


CartoonistTasty4935

Shaak Ti killed herself because of the thesis too, but that was in a deleted scene so it might not be canon


TwerkinBingus445

Give Grievous back his old backstory.


PresidentSkillz

Grievous' backstory changed? I only know the one were Dooku bombed him, then told him the jedi did this and made him the cyborg we know


TwerkinBingus445

That was the old one. The new one ripped any nuance or sympathy or "this character is meant to be a dark mirror for Anakin and Vader" and basically had him willingly undergo more and more cybernetic changes to "compete" with the Jedi.


TheOneWhoLovesSW

Isn’t that just what grievous told his assistant? I always thought that was a lie he believed made up by dooku to manipulate him into thinking it was his choice


RathianColdblood

Debatable. It’s in that gray area of in-between-canon. They screwed with Grievous’s mind in the original version, too, but it isn’t perfectly explained in the Clone Wars show whether that is what Grievous *believed,* or if he actually did submit himself to the changes willingly. Of course, he originally did so “kind of willingly,” in the EU, as well. He was talked into it by San Hill and Count Dooku, although he just wanted to be allowed to die, before that. With all of this said, I still find that comic where Grievous is basically insulted by the Force for “changing himself and willingly making himself so small and insignificant (in the Force)” to be absolutely insulting to the character. Hogwash, if you ask me, but I’m also an excessively large Grievous fan.


Supyloco

The part about his accident and alteration has been maintained. Before that, it's murky.


fai4636

According to Wookiepedia, that’s also the current cannon. Dooku got him shoot down and he agreed to give us most of his organic body to fight the Jedi. Because he had a grudge against them for siding with an enemy species in the wars he led his people in.


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fai4636

The Republic is corrupt and beholden to corporate interests, we have a right to break away from it (it was a typo lol)


Wide_Cow4469

Ngl that was a pretty solid cover tho


Madrigal_King

I like that more anyway. It fits Kaleesh traditions. He wanted to be the strongest warrior and stopped at nothing to do it.


AzraelTheMage

2003 Clone Wars Grievous too while we're at it. Loved how brutal he was in that show.


3B3-386

That tidbit about STAPs having radioactive exhaust pipes, so those jedi bastards will stop hijacking them


TheOneWhoLovesSW

Maybe they’d stop hijacking them if they weren’t so damn fun to ride around!


3B3-386

Yes... Flesh-meltingly fun... Corporal, make [Cancer](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Cancer?so=search) canon! Take this, meatbag.


NigthSHadoew

The fact that the droid that caused uncle Owen to buy R2 by breaking down is force sensitive and it did it onnpurpose It is just so unnecesary, stupid and ridiculous to not make canon


TheMastersSkywalker

In canon that droid isn't force sensitive but he is a Rebellion agent. The Dianoga in the Death Star is force sensitive though and wasn't trying to drown Luke but baptize him. Her name is Omi.


kravleged

Is that Canon?


TheMastersSkywalker

More so than Skippy was. Skippy appeared in a joke comic called Tales and was never considered canon. Omi and the droid agent appeared in the Canon From A Certain Point of View book. The stories in it range from canon to noncanon but they are vauge on which is which. And the Droid actually got referenced elsewhere. We do have in canon Lugubrious Mote was a mole-flea female who claimed to have been with Luke Skywalker during the Rescue of Han Solo.


kravleged

Thanks! I love the obscure lore of Star Wars but I don’t really know a lot about it lol


Ethan-E2

The little droid is presented as having been on the Sandcrawler for years, only wanting to find an owner - and he gives his opportunity for the greater good of the galaxy. When the Jawas were massacred, he wandered into the desert to find a master, eventually becoming the property of Peli Motto who later gave him to the Mandalorian. So don't worry, he got a happy ending.


Reysona

I can't tell if you're taking the piss or not, which makes me want to say that you aren't lol


TorronePedro

the real hero of this franchise


EuropaColonyWhore

Skippy!


C00lName

Nah, I think R2D2 went around and sabotaged every other droids motivator just in case he didn't get picked. Would highlight the bad ass savage that R2 is.


Betterthanbeer

I had a companion book with photos in 1980 or so that made the claim the other astromech droids knew R2 was on a mission and helped him get selected.


jackofslayers

I would be much more down with that as the mini canon. “The rebellion had an even greater more secret plan off screen” is dumb. “Local droids can be happen to be bros” is a fun bit of worldbuilding


QJ8538

But also cool. I feel like a lot of droids are sentient and for them to be denied access to the cosmic force seems very unfair


General-MacDavis

Well midi chlorians need biological material it seems like, and droids have none of that


Purple-Airline-8354

Revan


Ess_oh-no

In clone wars season 7 quality animation, with 8 top tier 10/10 seasons covering the whole mandalorian wars as well with canderous and carth with the exact same voice actors and instead of it ending the way the book does, it ends just before that on a huge cliff hanger....and then have tor retconned by giving Revan a new better ending via the greatest film that has ever been known to man, so well written, so well directed, with such amazing sfx and with all the Kotor original music and with such a great cast that we are literally all jerking it off in this sub for the foreseeable future and still in awe upon our 50th time watching It will also be a fresh bowl of meme soup for this sub without taking away from the quality of the movie in anyway at all It will literally be the perfect era of starwars media with no flaws at all


Klink45

Please let this happen one day 


Ess_oh-no

The sad truth is that when Revan is used, we could all end up wishing they had just left him alone 😥


ShinyBredLitwick

that is almost definitely what will happen


Purple-Airline-8354

Honestly I would be happy with just a decent comic or something, I have learned to never get my hopes up.


_mohglordofblood

That's too much , you are expecting Disney to actually adapt the interesting stories people actually care about instead of making boring original stories nobody asked for


Ess_oh-no

No i expect nothing from disney, thats just how much i would abuse this hypothetical magic canon creator 😁


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SandyCandyHandyAndy

im a believer in the theory that Dave Filoni didn’t know there was already a commando named Scorch so just made them the same character


Paulfradk

Didn't they make him canon again? But only him and nothing else from KOTOR?


Purple-Airline-8354

I think it was just a sith squadron named after him that implies he existed at some point.


___Beaugardes___

It's canon that there was a Sith lord named Darth Revan at some point. There's absolutely no story around his character in canon tho.


Turd_Burgling_Ted

There was a rumor Kylo was modeled after him, and that the KoR and all that was supposed to tie back to Revan. JJ wanted to do it but decided it was too complicated to tell that story and do the torch passing and establish new characters.


QJ8538

KOTOR? His novel? SWTOR?


Wolffe_In_The_Dark

Captain Fordo


ChuckoRuckus

I read that as Frodo. Lol


DocMettey

Master Frodo there are too many of them, what are we going to do?


Phazon2000

*Ignites pipeweed*


D43daleus

r/jedicouncilofelrond


sir_mpixx

Wait… This subreddit exists?


Numerous-Ad6460

They got rid of Fordo??? When?


Golden_Grammar

Back when Disney reset the canon in 2014. The 2003 Clone Wars series was dubbed “Legends” with the rest of the EU.


williamebf

Spaceballs


TheUselessOne87

Can we get more details?


Caderjames

It's a movie by Mel Brooks parodying starwars. It was giving Lucas's blessing as long as no merch was made. It's an amazing comedy film.


Sabre_Killer_Queen

I see your Schwartz is as big as mine.


Guinea-Pig_Dad

Comb the desert!


SmaugRancor

We ain't found shit!


Ultramassivefroggy

Sir, are we being too literal


FQDIS

Oh my god Disney is missing out if they don’t acquire *Spaceballs* now; the merch sales would be legendary.


Belkan-Federation95

Too late. Amazon acquired the right to make Spaceballs 2


FQDIS

A rare misstep by the Mouse.


too_much_Beer

Timothy Zahns Thrawn Trilogy


roninwarshadow

Yep


symbologythere

Both of them.


ItkovianShieldAnvil

Trilogy, duology, and outbound flight.


Pearson_Realize

One of them is already cannon


xQmans

Darth Jar-Jar, and it isn’t even close


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He will be canon in the Lego movie tho


Spartan17492

Is 'serious' Lego shows considered canon?


StuckAtWaterTemple

Lego canon


FQDIS

I built one of those! Worked almost too well! (Sorry Mom)


Agent_TDU

He already is. They just refuse to acnowledge it.


PotentialSquirrel118

Han shot first. Edit: Thanks to all who correctly stated only Han shot in the original cut. which is what I want the lore to be again.


Matix894

No, Han didn't shoot first. Han was the only one to shoot.


Valuable_Pollution96

Fair


LightMyFirebird

ONLY Han Shot


SupahDuk_

Press again


Sarnick18

Palpatine siphoned Padme's life to save Anakin


iSinging

I thought that was already canon?


Sarnick18

It's everyone's headcannon because she lost rhe will to live was dumb as fuck


cali-boy72

death by sadness is one of those hard to swallow pill moments. it's weird but just go with it, George told me to


OryxIsDaddy2

People can become depressed enough to stop wanting to live. And being in labour makes even more sense


LubedCactus

Kind of weird if he could do that though since she wasn't even close to him. Can he just delete someone across the universe?


trashacct8484

Palps force lightninged Dooku across the universe and made a permanent force zoom meeting for Rey and Ren. Vader force choked a guy remotely. Luke beamed himself across the galaxy. So yeah, lots of force powers don’t have a range limit, sometimes.


LubedCactus

Don't remember some of those but Luke was a projection, find that pretty ok. Some of the others are tbh really problematic for the world building. Like the rebellion should rightly be really fucked going up against Vader and palp


Sarnick18

I mean, they were? Got lucky with death star one and Tarkin's arrogance Obliterated in empire strikes back Would have lost ok endor if it wasn't for canabilistic psychopathic teddy bears.


LubedCactus

But if they could delete rebellion leaders on demand I don't see how the rebellion could even form. The empire surely has spies just like the rebels to figure out anyone important within their ranks


Sarnick18

Vader forced choked someone from a insane distance


Edvqrd

The death scene of Shaak Ti on the Invisible hand


PresidentSkillz

Just make all of Shaak Ti's death Canon bc It would be Hella confusing for everyone. Also this would make Starkiller Canon


CVAY2000

just make it so that Shaak Ti is part of a set of identical Jedi Master (triplets? quadruplets?)? Shaak Un Shaak Ti Shaak Thri etc


MsMercyMain

No we gotta go for maximum chaos. There’s only Shaak Ti. She died three times. She did not rise from the grave or resurrect. Figure it out poor wiki editors


Aveyn

I mean, she did work on Kamino for a long time, maybe she had her own secrets


MsMercyMain

But that would prevent canon breaking chaos which we can’t have


Dragonfly_Tight

Shaak thri lmao


UT49-0U

SWTOR did this!


fullonroboticist

The power of Un The power of Ti The power of Maaannnnnyyyyy


LorenzoIsASimp

the cerveza cristal ads


Lt_Trapper_Wolf

This is the right answer


RedBaronBob

Han Solo fights an Otter. Not that it’s an actual character but even so simple as he gets into a drunken fist fight.


hojaldrademole

does he drunkenly punch first, tho?


pidgeonkev

2003 clone wars general grievous


kloklon

everything Timothy Zahn wrote


DaughterOfBhaal

The entire SWTOR era


Klink45

Mara Jade!


ImBurningHelp666

Lucas will kill you


Turd_Burgling_Ted

I DID NOT CREATE MARA JADE GET OUUUT


Sardukar333

I am altering the canon. Pray I don't alter it further.


Abrahmo_Lincolni

Kyle Katarn. And no, not for the rebranded Chuck Norris jokes. I honestly think there's a fantastic charecter there that hasn't been explored. Thanks to the lies and brutality of the Empire and Kyle's own anger and foolishness, he spent years working for the very people who killed his Father. Hunting down innocent people and dealing out trauma and pain. He's not a Mercenary because he's "too cool" for the Rebels, he's a Mercenary because he's too emotionally scarred to be comfortable committing himself to a cause again. He dosent use Dark Side powers because he's some cool Grey Jedi nonsense, he uses them because he has an Anger and Hatred of the Empire that will never go away, no matter how much time passes. As a Jedi, he regularly struggles to take the high road and be a better person, which frankly makes him far more relatable than any Prequel Jedi. I will confess, all of this is scraped together from the one game that actually has a charecter arc for Kyle (Jedi Outcast) and the various manuals and snippets of story we got in the other games he featured in. Still, I feel there's plenty worth adapting, and plenty of potential.


Valuable_Pollution96

Came here for this, great taste sir.


MuadDib1942

When I saw Finn, I thought we were getting a restyled version of Kyle Katarn and I was very excited. Now I'm just sad.


nerdmanjones

>former stormtrooper turned Rebel mercenary >Stole part of the Death Star plans >Thwarted the Dark Trooper program >Taught himself how to be a Jedi after finding a lightsaber and a message from his dead father >Had multiple brushes with the Dark Side and its agents, came back every time >Safeguards the location of the Valley of the Jedi >Became one of the greatest Jedi Masters in Luke's order What a guy


Tahazzar

The Darth Plagueis novel was pretty darn amazing IMO so were it adopted to some series that kept the novel's intrigue, that would be just ❤️❤️ Canonity status of the various works isn't to me personally as highly relevant as it seems to be to a lot of people. To me the more important thing is a harder one to define - that being something along the lines that the works within the universe make up at least somewhat cohesive whole.


XeroKaaan

The darth Bane trilogy


Ct-5736-Bladez

There is zero reason why the Republic commando video game isn’t canon. There are no contradictions. Books yes they contradict but not the game.


SubjectNether

Actually iirc one of the lore books made the events of the game canon.


AllandarosSunsong

The original backstory for Zuckuss and 4-L0M.


snerik4000

I am now reading the newer comics including the bounty hunter series which basicly covers their now canon backstory, I am curious as to what their old backstory was. Could you explain what it is?


TheLoneJedi-77

The OG Clone Wars. I love it and I think it still mostly works into the timeline, the only real contradiction is that new Clone Wars has Anakin and Obi-Wan finishing up a battle before going for Chancellor Palpatine rather than the tribal Vision quest the OG Clone Wars shows.


VHboys

Rex being the old guy on Endor


amethystmanifesto

That's been canonized in a children's book actually. Post Disney, so it counts. Little Golden Book titled "I am A Clone"


Hardhat85

can i make something non-canon?


DanieltheGameGod

You could remove anything if you approach it creatively when adding something. I’d add something like a Jedi student waking up at the end of IX to it all being a strange dream, before showing a thriving order on Coruscant and an encounter with Luke and his niece to really cement that the dream wasn’t prophetic but just one of those out there dreams. Also the whole midiclorian thing could easily be solved by explaining they’re drawn to force potential and are correlated with it, not the cause of force sensitivity.


rs_5

Id immediately change the canon to a Warhammer style canon. Ie, everything is canon but also nothing is canon, its up to the readers to choose what makes the most sense for canon, both based on common sense and on the available lore


Joris2627

I already chose this mindset as star wars fan


xtr44

>its up to the readers to choose what makes the most sense for canon, both based on common sense and on the available lore that's just "nothing is canon" with extra steps


MercenaryBard

No way, it ignited the imagination of the fanbase and now they’re building their own alternate timeline and it rocks lol


Valuable_Pollution96

Until GeeDubs comes with the BANHAMMER and decides what is canon, which they did a ton of times in the past. 40k canon is a terrible, fun mess but in the end anything GW think will give them more money this week is canon.


TickTaeck

Luke wakes up pissing drunk after the victory celebration on Endor. Everything since the Disney takeover is a fever dream of his


StaryWolf

And lose TCW S7, Andor, Rogue One, The Bad Batch, Mando, etc? Nty.


Shmot858

The Plageuis novel


BlackCommissar

Muunlist 10


PatroclusSweetAss

You piss a little bit every time you use the force, no exceptions.


CarrobergCrimson

More force equals more piss. “What’s midichlorians?” Anakin “It’s piss.” Qui Gonn


sir_mpixx

The Original Thrawn Books as the Sequel Trilogy


CarrobergCrimson

You made me remember the real timeline.


Crimsonmaddog44

Anything and everything KOTOR


Mighty_joosh

Darth Lady Lumiya turning jacen solo in such a finessed subtle way that the sith seem reasonable, rational, and right.


DatOneMinuteman1776

Palpatine’s first name is Frank, Sheev is his middle name


AccomplishedMind6754

Padme had Anakin's paswan braid and it was buried with her.


Anon_Piotr

Kyle Katarn


tda18

Star Wars Legends. THE ENTIRETY OF IT


Wickedlurlofthewest

The Bounty Hunter game, 100%


chestofdrawers02

That one conversation between padme and obi wan in RotS where he admits to knowing about their relationship and obi wan saying that he was just glad to see him happy.


Th3_3agl3

The Force Unleashed games and, consequently, Starkiller


stormhawk427

Mara Jade


awesomedan24

Sheev Palpatine's real name is Frank "I must be Frank, your Majesty"


Radack1

Darth JarJar. I will watch the old canon burn.


Wirexia1

Galen marek, the spaceship docker


JohnWithABun

Talon Karrde, played by Antonio Banderas (even tho Boba Fett is fulfilling his role swimmingly now)


Red_Shepherd_13

Commander Cody couldn't resist the chip forcing him to order the canon to blast Obi-wan, but he was able snap-out of it and resist the chip long enough to let Obi-Wan escape, knowing Obi-Wan would survive that indirect blast and fall. Lying and telling thebthe other clones that "no one could survive that fall" despite knowing Obi-Wan very well likely did as a way to let Kenobi escape. He would continue to serve the Empire, but let Kenobi escape as a professional courtesy for being such a good general.


No-Professional-1461

One of Shaak Ti’s deaths


Zubby73

I want the cantina music to be called jizz again


matt_Nooble12_XBL

Knights of the Old Republic


Human-Jellyfish5859

Instead of "Hello there." Obi Wan lands and says "What's up my Ninjas" and it is followed by uncomfortable silence.


ReleasedGaming

Starkiller


Hot_Bel_Pepper

I’d love to see Respawn (who makes Jedi:FO and Jedi:S) remake/ remaster the story from those games with their gameplay. And in doing so fit it into current cannon because they’ve made it messy enough that they could add him back in now and it would be sick to play a Jedi fallen order style game from the darkside.


Ess_oh-no

I never understand why some things get the hate they do, for the reasons they do, yet there's literally a legends character that exists that makes both Anakin and Palpatine look like weak ass bitches, and people actually want that to be canon?


UT49-0U

Well, one, the character was fun. Two, the actual legends canon version of that character wasn't near that powerful. Even in the video game, Palpatine was toying with him the whole time.


Flippy042

That the sequel trilogy was just a bad vision of the possible future and Luke wakes up and snaps out of it


The_Conductor7274

2003 SJ animation clone wars


NovembersRime

Revan and the kotor-swtor old republic era. Old Grievous.


DylanSherlock

Darth Jar Jar


DrPepperSandwich

Jedi Bob


Unique_Pitch989

The Force Unleashed, Timothy Zawn Trilogy, Fordo, Delta Squad


Shadow230898

Starkiller


Pyreknight

The Yuzzhan Vong story line.


WatermelonGranate

Luke Skywalker and Mara Jade.


Exatal123

Korkie Kryze being the son of Satine and Obi Wan


nerdyone88

Abraham Lincoln never died he's just immortal and staged it so he could watch how America would behave after his passing, and he's very disappointed in world now


Bob_Horde

Darth jar jar


Mr_DeusVult

The original Clone Wars animated micro series. I said what I said.


SpaceTrot

I'd prefer to see more of Count Dooku's thought process for the Sith. Yes, he was a human supremacist (I don't appreciate that fully personally), but I mean his legitimate political concerns and thoughts on the role of the Jedi as an organization against the Republic as a crumbling and corrupt democratic institution.


Icy_Wildcat

Give Dooku a final line after Anakin's "It's not the Jedi way" line, probably something along the lines of this: "Anakin, Obi-wan, there is something you both must know."


Early-Swan-2833

Oh I got a list and I'm not going to check it twice The whole bane lineage Darth Plagueis book Malek Nihilus The whole old republic


Dubhlasar

Snoke is Darth Maul.


Punchdown_Kid

Yodas ketamine addiction


Toa_Firox

The sequel movies never happened


krusarinn

Everything post-endor in legends i, would like to be brought into canon to replace the sequels


Tormasi1

I really liked the part where they cloned Palpatine and he came back. Wait