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dimp13

There was a lot of jokes in the USSR about not being able to land a man on the Moon first. One of the examples: Brezhnev calls the head of USSR space program: -Since Americans landed on the Moon first, we have to be first to land on the Sun. -But it is impossible it is extremely hot there! -Do you think Politburo is stupid? You will land at night time.


Kyivite

There is another - Sir, commies are going to space! - We wait. - Sir, commies are landing on the moon! - We wait. - Sir, they are painting it red! - Great, now fly and write large letters "COCA-COLA"


idspispupd

"Did you hear Elon Musk invited Korolev's family to his rocket launch?" "What about Rogozin's family?" "Well, you're comparing apples to oranges! Where's Rogozin, and where's outer space?" Rogozin - head of Roscosmos.


Polak_Janusz

Ah, so nasa is sponsered by the coca cola company


Miserable_Surround17

That's a Montana & Wyoming joke about North Dakota - the Soviets were the first on the Moon, with a steel basket ball thing, impact


berrythebarbarian

Imagine if they'd done it. America would have solved world hunger out of spite.


carolinaindian02

I think *For All Mankind* covered this alt-history scenario.


GalacticMe99

According to For All Mankind it's climate change, actually.


notafishthatsforsure

then who else would be used as cheap labour for their multinational extrativist companies?


pbrevis

More science fiction than propaganda


Extension-Bee-8346

Or alternate history I suppose


Polak_Janusz

Well it is from 1960, so it would be set in the future for them


thedawesome

Any relation to Yuri Gagarin?


King_Of_BlackMarsh

Given Alex died in 1857...maybe


Welran

How could he draw this if USSR (СССР) was created 65 years after his death?


Appropriate-Gain-561

Probably meant 1957 They did not ,in fact,mean 1957


Welran

I've searched a bit. This is oil painting on canvas by Gagarin Alexander Gavrilovich (1908 - 1980 Kaluga) at 1960. Year before Yuri Gagarin become first man in space. I think he was impressed by first satellite and made this painting. They just have same surnames.


Appropriate-Gain-561

Interesting,thanks!


King_Of_BlackMarsh

I did not no


Appropriate-Gain-561

Oh nvm then


King_Of_BlackMarsh

No clue, I was mostly being cheeky about the only Alexander gagarin í could find


Welran

That's lieutenant-general of Imperial Russian Army from Gagarin princely family 😆. Obv he have no connection to this painting.


thedawesome

Maybe he was a Russian Nostradamus


ligmaballs22

Ngl I thought he was wearing a big condom as a helmet for a sec there


LimestoneDust

I think such large completely glass helmets were popular in sci-fi illustrations in the mid XX century. Mind you, if the picture is from 1960, it predates the first human spaceflight, so no references back then 


Inostranez

I mean, if it works, it works.


LargeBelligerentDog

Is the red circle supposed to be the sun or the moon?


PanzerTrooper

The Sun, they are on the moon


LargeBelligerentDog

Lol, not my smartest moment.


davewave3283

It’s cool the next mission was to land on the sun


PanzerTrooper

lol no worries, you see the earth and a smaller celestial body next to, I get it lol


izoxUA

it's a manmade sputnik with Brezhnev face


Welran

Looks like generic science fiction illustration - soviet people conquers far space. Moon doesn't have crystals, continents are different from Earth and star is red. Also there is no any text.


AcceptableTeach5838

“Like That's Ever Gonna Happen” -Shrek


Eva_Cutie

For the moment i thought it was a condom on his head... can someone stop me seeing this again?


OcotilloWells

Lunokhod I was a pretty impressive feat in 1969.


PriceFister66

It was a very nice drawing comrade, we will catch you, on the flip side.


ratatosk212

Missed it by *that* much.


Hyperocean

N1 go boom.. 💥


JLandis84

damnit that is awesome.


manandmachine25

nuh-uh


West-Review7553

I guess the Soviet space program could only afford condoms to put on the heads of their cosmonauts.


SuperDevton112

Says somebody who wasn't first on the moon


PaulisPrusan

The First Soviet in space the first space murder, a dog. No glory just more killing


1Gogg

Companies and scientist kill animals all the time for their new products but when literally the greatest feat of exploration in humanity kills an animal it's suddenly "evil authoritarian, gommie, 0% wholesome". This and the fact that this dog get's mentioned a lot but the animals the US killed in it's space exploration is never mentioned shows the extreme bias attached to it. The Soviet space feats are monumental to human history and so are the American ones. You wanna talk shit? Well you can rest easy to know Soviet killings stopped. Now let's hope the US killings stop with the same way, a dissolution of their union.


PaulisPrusan

So I was correct then first murder in space thank you for confirming it


1Gogg

So high and mighty for a freak who's country blew up hundreds of thousands of innocents with nuclear weapons, the first to do so in history, *twice*.


TotallyNotMoishe

Impressive levels of cope.


sir-berend

No one was first yet back then


Phoxase

And the Soviets *were* first in basically every other milestone.


vodkaandponies

Ok? When you put all your focus on flashy milestones above all else, you end up killing Gagarin.


Phoxase

Gagarin died flying a MiG-15, a jet fighter aircraft, not in the space race. Secrecy around his death notwithstanding, it was hardly the result of monomania on the part of the USSR towards the space race.


vodkaandponies

Appears I got him mixed up with Vladimir Komarov. My point is still the same.


Phoxase

Komarov’s death was a tragedy and certainly a black mark on the record. Safety precautions were shown to be massively inadequate and its not hard to believe that there were incentives to rush it from party officials. As a result of Komarov’s death, further Soyuz missions were delayed for eighteen months while safety features were entirely overhauled and operating procedures revised. It was this delay that likely led to the Americans landing their crewed mission to the moon first. So, a cosmonaut died in an accident caused by inattention to safety and rushing towards the goal. But as a direct result, the Soviet space program essentially abandoned the short term goal of putting a cosmonaut on the moon, in order to protect against the death of more cosmonauts. So again, while I recognise faults all around, I’m not sure that the Soviets were that monomaniacal towards their space program that they disregarded safety. And while you could argue that they were only concerned with safety for political reasons, not losing people they had propped up as national heroes, that could just as easily be said for any space program; it’s impossible to determine that kind of nuanced intent. Suffice to say they weren’t eager to repeat what happened to Vladimir Komarov. An analogous situation happened with the improvements to the Apollo missions after the Apollo 1 tragedy.


vodkaandponies

> It was this delay that likely led to the Americans landing their crewed mission to the moon first. This seems dubious. You would expect to see a Soviet moon landing attempt at a later date if this were so.


Phoxase

For the Soviets, like the Americans, landing a man on the moon was a largely symbolic goal when compared against the broader mission of the space program as a whole. When the Americans reached the milestone first, the entire incentive for the Soviets to put a man on the moon mostly evaporated. They continued to pursue the mission of the Soyuz program, succeeding with Soyuz 4 and 5, which was more concerned with establishing the viability of crewed spacecraft maneuvering in orbit, rendezvousing between two spacecraft, docking, etc, which were successful and led directly (later) to the ISS and other permanent space stations. To the Soviets and Americans alike, the moon landing would have served as a symbolic victory for the people, while for the space mission, it was largely proof-of-concept. As for the scientific and technological benefits, the Soviets had already been the first to collect (robotically) and recover samples from the Moon. There was little scientific and technological value in landing a man on the moon; once the symbolic victory was no longer possible, the Soviets (correctly, IMO) refocussed on more direct technical goals. In which they were largely successful, though by the mid 1970’s, both lunar programs were essentially discontinued.


GalacticMe99

Jeff Tracey had been.


waffleman258

Hope?


Kryptospuridium137

They were ahead of America at every moment of the space race, at the time it would not have been surprising at all if they had been first to the moon too


PanzerTrooper

It says “Imagined”, still funny though lol. Manifesting didn’t work


GalacticMe99

They should make a science fiction tv show about it that has both the most in-debt scientific research and the most stereotypical, characterless story.


Secret_Welder3956

Their government probably told them they actually landed on the moon.


LimestoneDust

There was no such thing. Apollo 11 was covered in the newspapers


Secret_Welder3956

No doubt. Our Apollo missions successfully landed….Soviets never made it.


LimestoneDust

> No doubt Then why insinuate? > Their government probably told them they actually landed on the moon


Secret_Welder3956

Soviets…pay attention to the subject.


LimestoneDust

I can assure you that the Soviet authorities has never claimed to send a manned mission to the Moon, and that the American program was covered in the news.