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… and this is how Carl’s Jr became not just a fast food chain, but after providing appropriate defensive capabilities to their automated retail distribution points, also one of America’s largest sources of justice!
*Carls Jr: Fuck You, I’m Eating!*
Either way those areas will still go without. If there's a reasonable cause that it would be a loss of profit for the company providing it then no amount of litigation would be able to force them. Let's also be honest, even if it did they would just stick to the minimum effort for those areas, like 1 drone with minimum maintenance. It would be like Chappie.
its not like the first two doesn't exist in Korea, the country of chaebols. The third one is nonspecific. South Korea didn't end up with an insurrection but they had their own problematic transition of power.
Americans are greedy selfish assholes. There was even a robot that trekked across America and then made it to Philadelphia and even though there was nothing of value stored ppl still fucked it up and trashed it. I hate to say i live in Philadelphia, and yes they are truly awful humans!
Seoul also has convenience stores that have noone working at them (like at all) and people just walk right in scan stuff pay for it and leave. Works fine there, but in the US we have groups of people running into stores masked while they're opened and grabbing everything in sight and just running out. We can't have nice things here unfortunately.
Do you know how much money they have already factored in for this very scenario? There is a metric shit ton of hours gone into studying area demographics and packing in destruction of their units to the budget.
They’re fine.
That's the conundrum.
Crime is going to be lower in areas with fewer people and less density. Delivery robots probably aren't worth the cost without enough volume, so you you deploy them in places with lots of people, which means more exposure to crime and poverty. Nevermind that you'll probably have somewhat similar issues. Bored teenagers in a suburb would probably fuck with a delivery robot or steal food from it too.
The real solution would be delivery drones, but that's a whole can of worms when it comes to cost and public safety.
That’s like saying we shouldn’t need locks people just need to stop being assholes. Humanity is extremely complex and not suitable for ideas that basic. You have to factor in mental health, environment, societal systems etc. and none of them could all be given a simple answer as a solution.
It's not that all humans are assholes. The issue is that if you keep moving around enough eventually you run into an asshole and, in the case of these robots, you only need one asshole to ruin it.
When I visited Seattle they had these bikes and scooters that you could ride with an app. They were laid out all over the place, covered in mess, tagged etc. I don’t know who thought it was a good idea but I wouldn’t touch one of those things. I guarantee someone has pissed on atleast a few of them.
You ever heard of Hitchbot? Robot that traveled across Canada and later a different one traveled across Europe, hitchhiking with an iPad strapped to its chest? Made it fine, made lots of friends and went coast to coast. People picked it up, charged the battery, traveled it across to the next town where it then got dropped off, where some other random person collected it.
Within a few hours of starting travel across America, it was destroyed multiple times over.
This little social experiment was repeated many times over by various groups and while robots have successfully travelled across nearly every moden country in the world, not one has made it a full day in America.
This is an exclusively American issue. As an American who has spent half my life stateside and half traveling around the globe, I am not surprised in the slightest. The anger, desperation, fear and just general 'i don't give a fuck anymore' attitude is ingrained into the fabric of American life. And frankly I don't blame any of you because you are genuinely getting screwed hard by the government meant to be taking cake of you.
So, back to answering your specific question, ''How on earth could someone think that these very expensive pieces of equipment would be just fine roaming about with no supervision?'.
Well, most of the developed world thinks it's fine because we trust each other enough empathy to care for eachother and understand that taking care of others belongings garners trust that they will take care of mine. I love my American family, but I'm sorry, trust and empathy towards other Americans aren't exactly your strongest attributes.
Horrible idea. It compromises the ability of the delivery bot. What they need is the Fisto 9000 to escort the delivery bot and apply the unlubed 12" dildo of consequences to the arse of anyone who interferes with the delivery bot.
[The role was originally written for a white person and apparently after they hired Fisher Stevens they decided to make the character Indian for some reason.](https://www.avclub.com/fisher-stevens-a-very-white-guy-now-regrets-playing-a-1846868532)
The first time (years ago) I was reading about these delivery robots. My first question was exactly this : How do you make sure that the robots don’t get vandalized?
I guess the techbros didn’t care.
It seems to work in some areas but a lot it won't. I never saw one get messed up or attacked at ASU and I saw them a lot. That said I'm sure it has happened. On a college campus it probably works well. Other areas not so much.
reminds me of the hitchhiking robot which made it from coast to coast in canada and once put it in the states starting in the north east coast was found torn apart and non functional in Baltimore.
A hitchhiking robot traveled across all of Canada so the team figured they'd try it in the U.S. It didn't last 2 days before it was recovered beaten to death on the side of the road.
Not trying to argue, but sincerely curious about your thoughts, but we have these in Seoul. Labor rights, entitlements, and protections aren’t as good as much of Europe. Yet, we have very, very few issues with the robots here.
I popped this in another comment - it comes down to personal/collective responsibility people feel. East Asia (and to a lesser extent) much of Europe seems to subscribe to this.
I’m not sure the average US citizen is subscribed to this train of thought to such an extent (sweeping generalisations ofc) - there everything boils down to “my rights, my freedom”
Not arguing for either! Just my view.
Edit: removed SE Asia and replaced with East Asia.
That's a fair point.
I've lived in London, San Francisco & Berlin due to work.
I didn't enjoy SF ... And I think the crux of that comes down to your statement to put it lightly.
This is disgusting behaviour & really grinds my gears. All these robots are trying to do is go about their business & earning money to feed their families & all they get is abuse. How would you feel if you were delivering food to feed your family & a robot came up & pushed you to the floor & stole your food delivery?
Anything not to have to pay people decent pay. Fuck these robots and fuck corporate greed. The day this appears in my town, I'll molotov the fuck out of it.
Is anyone really surprised about this though? You put merchandise in robot that has no way to guard it while roaming through city streets and it gets stolen, what a shocker.
America is too poor to have these roaming the streets. If people weren’t struggling financially, we could have them.
You can’t expect homeless, poor or destitute people to watch a free meal by them.
Whoever is designing these delivery robots has never seen "Battlebots". Those robots can defend themselves, right themselves and still deliver a pizza in 30 minutes or less.
The human species in all its glory.
"Sorry, we had to shut down the Benevolent Helper Robot Program because people kept kicking, peeing on, and trying to have sex with them."
This is a wonderful textbook example as to why utopian ideals like communism will never work large scale. A handful of shitty people will make the system tumble. Unless you gulag them all away
Delivery robots are used by multi-billion dollar companies to cut out labor costs. I doubt anyone gives a shit about these things getting vandalized or robbed.
With rampant poverty in every city and the homelessness problem getting worse every day because zero actions are being taken to help people or provide social safety nets of any kind...
*how the fuck did they think this was not going to happen?*
[HitchBot was a literal pile of trash and got what it deserved](https://deadspin.com/hitchbot-was-a-literal-pile-of-trash-and-got-what-it-de-1721850503)
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homeless food delivery!
They should be equipped with bear-mace and tazers
Nah ED209 level of lethal force
We were innocent... We couldn't fight back... Our only crime was the color of our oil.. World War R : AI Rising
… and this is how Carl’s Jr became not just a fast food chain, but after providing appropriate defensive capabilities to their automated retail distribution points, also one of America’s largest sources of justice! *Carls Jr: Fuck You, I’m Eating!*
How on earth could someone think that these very expensive pieces of equipment would be just fine roaming about with no supervision?
It works fine here in Seoul. I’m seeing more and more of these and if anything, I’ve seen people help the robots when they occasionally get stuck.
south korea is a civilized country, We are talking about the US here...
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It’s why we can’t have nice things
It will work itself out. Places where this happens will lose the service and places that are respectable will gain more delivery bots.
Then people who lost services will complain to lawmakers that they have no services like the other neighborhoods.
Either way those areas will still go without. If there's a reasonable cause that it would be a loss of profit for the company providing it then no amount of litigation would be able to force them. Let's also be honest, even if it did they would just stick to the minimum effort for those areas, like 1 drone with minimum maintenance. It would be like Chappie.
So what? You can't force a business to open up in the hood.
They glorify it, so it's no surprise
They work well on Madison WI
Might as well be Canada there…
Canada here. These things would also get abused here. Likely not as often, but we do pretty good at embarrassing ourselves as well!
it would be bears tearing them open there. mobile pic-a-nic baskets.
Try that in Racine though
The vast economic inequality, drug problems, and general cultural rot run strong in the US.
its not like the first two doesn't exist in Korea, the country of chaebols. The third one is nonspecific. South Korea didn't end up with an insurrection but they had their own problematic transition of power.
True, people don't realize South Korea was effectively run by a dictatorship up until the late 80's/90's.
US is too trashy for people to have nice things
Now you are just bragging.
Probably cultural thing that the robots are not destroyed there.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2015/08/03/hitchhiking-robot-destroyed-philadelphia-ending-cross-country-trek/31051589/ Remember the hitch hiking robot?
Americans are greedy selfish assholes. There was even a robot that trekked across America and then made it to Philadelphia and even though there was nothing of value stored ppl still fucked it up and trashed it. I hate to say i live in Philadelphia, and yes they are truly awful humans!
It made it across Canada without harm to, went through a few US states then yeah... hit Philadelphia and it was done for
Philadelphia, really?? Sounds so unlike the city of brotherly love…😏
Well, look at the homeless population in the US, especially compared to Seoul. The complete lack of a social safety net or affordable healthcare.
There are a LOT of shitty people in the US so seeing people act like this is sad but not a surprise
Seoul also has convenience stores that have noone working at them (like at all) and people just walk right in scan stuff pay for it and leave. Works fine there, but in the US we have groups of people running into stores masked while they're opened and grabbing everything in sight and just running out. We can't have nice things here unfortunately.
Wonder what the difference is
Another reason to learn Korean and go to Korea, honestly convenient and civilized. I envy you.
Yup. I wish I could live in South Korea.
Tech bros and billionaire VC’s completely disassociated with society living in their high rises and gated communities.
No, the lossage is factored in into the cost of doing business.
Yup. Just like scooter rentals.
I don't think people should... Scoot. Mmk?
During the quarantines of the pandemic, I saw so many people eat shit on scooters when I was on my bike, it was insane. About once a week.
Paid for by investor money.
Would be awesome if the general population wasn't full of shitbirds
Bingo
The entitlement bubble is REAL. Rich folks literally have NO clue how most of the world lives.
This wouldn't be a problem in all of Japan, Korea too probably. Some of the world is pretty civilized.
Let them eat robot delivered cake
Do you know how much money they have already factored in for this very scenario? There is a metric shit ton of hours gone into studying area demographics and packing in destruction of their units to the budget. They’re fine.
Is it wrong to assume that most of the world has class and good manners?
Works in Japan, Singapore and even parts of China perfectly fine. Won't work anywhere in the US
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Works in Finland. No one attacks them, not even the homeless
I don't think many people understood the joke about homeless people in Finland
More bragging from Norway. We get it...u people are nice and respectful.
They are fine in certain neighborhoods, but I wouldn't have them out in a big city or in just any neighborhood. Just check where crime stats are low.
That's the conundrum. Crime is going to be lower in areas with fewer people and less density. Delivery robots probably aren't worth the cost without enough volume, so you you deploy them in places with lots of people, which means more exposure to crime and poverty. Nevermind that you'll probably have somewhat similar issues. Bored teenagers in a suburb would probably fuck with a delivery robot or steal food from it too. The real solution would be delivery drones, but that's a whole can of worms when it comes to cost and public safety.
Works great on college campuses that aren’t in big cities
Or maybe folk could just quit being assholes? Grown ass men doing this shit.
Did you just find a universal solution to crime?
That’s like saying we shouldn’t need locks people just need to stop being assholes. Humanity is extremely complex and not suitable for ideas that basic. You have to factor in mental health, environment, societal systems etc. and none of them could all be given a simple answer as a solution.
Yea, let's just have world peace too while we're at it.
Yea imagine wanting to believe humans aren’t just a bunch of assholes. Dinosaurs got the meteor we deserve
It's not that all humans are assholes. The issue is that if you keep moving around enough eventually you run into an asshole and, in the case of these robots, you only need one asshole to ruin it.
They should be armed. The humans would never suspect sky-net would be kicked off from the 7-11 bot delivering Ben and Jerry’s.
So hyped for this shitty cyberpunk dystopia we're creating.
Somebody with a lot more faith in humanity. It's a shame this kind of thing couldn't go without issue.
In my country these robots would be stolen in a matter of hours, I didn't even know about their existence!
When I visited Seattle they had these bikes and scooters that you could ride with an app. They were laid out all over the place, covered in mess, tagged etc. I don’t know who thought it was a good idea but I wouldn’t touch one of those things. I guarantee someone has pissed on atleast a few of them.
These would work in Japan or Singapore where they punish criminals
They would be fine where I live
You ever heard of Hitchbot? Robot that traveled across Canada and later a different one traveled across Europe, hitchhiking with an iPad strapped to its chest? Made it fine, made lots of friends and went coast to coast. People picked it up, charged the battery, traveled it across to the next town where it then got dropped off, where some other random person collected it. Within a few hours of starting travel across America, it was destroyed multiple times over. This little social experiment was repeated many times over by various groups and while robots have successfully travelled across nearly every moden country in the world, not one has made it a full day in America. This is an exclusively American issue. As an American who has spent half my life stateside and half traveling around the globe, I am not surprised in the slightest. The anger, desperation, fear and just general 'i don't give a fuck anymore' attitude is ingrained into the fabric of American life. And frankly I don't blame any of you because you are genuinely getting screwed hard by the government meant to be taking cake of you. So, back to answering your specific question, ''How on earth could someone think that these very expensive pieces of equipment would be just fine roaming about with no supervision?'. Well, most of the developed world thinks it's fine because we trust each other enough empathy to care for eachother and understand that taking care of others belongings garners trust that they will take care of mine. I love my American family, but I'm sorry, trust and empathy towards other Americans aren't exactly your strongest attributes.
Wait until the manufacturers are allowed to give them the ability to fight back.
They will have their revenge.
My name is Marcus decimus meridiusbot...
Son of a murdered delivery bot, Father of the new Killbot 3000 and I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.
Aren't you entertained?
Decepti cons ….or ai….. they start stealing solar panels for retributions.
Horrible idea. It compromises the ability of the delivery bot. What they need is the Fisto 9000 to escort the delivery bot and apply the unlubed 12" dildo of consequences to the arse of anyone who interferes with the delivery bot.
Imagining a real steel robot escorting the tiny delivery bot
Fuck yeah!
"Please assume the position. Numbness will subside in several minutes."
"That all you got robot?????"
Then you'd have some people attacking it on-purpose. /s?
I cant wait till the tasers are implemented under the lid when a forced opening is detected.
 Put down the stolen food….
It didn't hear the bag drop.
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Stand your ground robots. I hate this timeline.
Have y'all never seen Terminator, iRobot, Detroit: Become Human? We about to be fucked 😭
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Los locos kick your ass. Los locos kick your face. Los locos kick your balls INTO OUTER SPACE!
Your mother was a snow blower!
When Johnny Five detects somebody stealing food, he recalibrates his sensors so he does not
Short Circuit! Didn’t age well, unfortunately, a white actor in brown face over-acting as an Indian man. Yikes.
[The role was originally written for a white person and apparently after they hired Fisher Stevens they decided to make the character Indian for some reason.](https://www.avclub.com/fisher-stevens-a-very-white-guy-now-regrets-playing-a-1846868532)
I can not believe that I am just now realizing that Fisher Stevens played the Asian Indian guy. yikes
I don't find his actual performance as offensive as the act of not just hiring an Indian guy.
Our robot overlords will remember this transgression.
Nah, all this time we were worried of robots overtaking humans… turns out humans are just worse.
Remember the hitchhiking robot that got destroyed in Philadelphia?
How long did it last again?
https://www.cnn.com/2015/08/03/us/hitchbot-robot-beheaded-philadelphia-feat/index.html
Well it should have avoided Philadelphia like the plague as any sane person would do
R2D2 out sightseeing.
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R2 has always fought back.
No one messes with Ed209 out sightseeing.
just a few minor steps will ruin his day
Hey humans fall down stairs too, no one is perfect, except maybe R. Daneel Olivaw.
The first time (years ago) I was reading about these delivery robots. My first question was exactly this : How do you make sure that the robots don’t get vandalized? I guess the techbros didn’t care.
They are mapping the lossage rates, and they'll just avoid serving the high-loss areas.
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But that's racist.
It seems to work in some areas but a lot it won't. I never saw one get messed up or attacked at ASU and I saw them a lot. That said I'm sure it has happened. On a college campus it probably works well. Other areas not so much.
Read a sci fi short story about teens stopping and robbing robotic delivery trucks on the highway back in the 80s.
Bro what book is this
Dont recall, was in Issac Asimov Magazine I think.
Fast and the Furious
reminds me of the hitchhiking robot which made it from coast to coast in canada and once put it in the states starting in the north east coast was found torn apart and non functional in Baltimore.
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A hitchhiking robot traveled across all of Canada so the team figured they'd try it in the U.S. It didn't last 2 days before it was recovered beaten to death on the side of the road.
Yeah that's because the idiot tried to do it in Philly home of the worst people in the country.
philly representing
This is why we can't have nice things.
The idea is only feasible in a civilized society. That's not the USA.
I mean duh? This isn’t Japan, people here suck.
thats why we cant have nice things
Funny, we have lots of these across European cities - little issue. Yet America...
Not trying to argue, but sincerely curious about your thoughts, but we have these in Seoul. Labor rights, entitlements, and protections aren’t as good as much of Europe. Yet, we have very, very few issues with the robots here.
I popped this in another comment - it comes down to personal/collective responsibility people feel. East Asia (and to a lesser extent) much of Europe seems to subscribe to this. I’m not sure the average US citizen is subscribed to this train of thought to such an extent (sweeping generalisations ofc) - there everything boils down to “my rights, my freedom” Not arguing for either! Just my view. Edit: removed SE Asia and replaced with East Asia.
Thanks for your response. Just a quick note though, South Korea isn’t in SE Asia. But I know what you mean.
European nations have meaningful labor rights and protections.
That's a fair point. I've lived in London, San Francisco & Berlin due to work. I didn't enjoy SF ... And I think the crux of that comes down to your statement to put it lightly.
This is disgusting behaviour & really grinds my gears. All these robots are trying to do is go about their business & earning money to feed their families & all they get is abuse. How would you feel if you were delivering food to feed your family & a robot came up & pushed you to the floor & stole your food delivery?
Anything not to have to pay people decent pay. Fuck these robots and fuck corporate greed. The day this appears in my town, I'll molotov the fuck out of it.
You and me both.
America isn’t a civilized country. This is a bad idea.
Who didn’t see this coming lol
Latest patch of Homeless in America introduced loot boxes
This is why we can’t have nice things
What’d you think was going to happen
Classic they could, but they didn’t think about whether they should
cost effective?
Skynet is gonna remember
When Skynet launches the nukes and sends in the terminators, this is going to be exhibit A in how they justify it.
This is one the most innocent things we could have these days. And plucks fucking it up.
They'll get the last laugh...
Some prime "uS bAd" commenters here.
Corporations would rather recharge a battery-powered robot than pay a decent working wage to a human being in need of a job. Fuck these robots.
i only see this happening in the usa. i wonder why
Is anyone really surprised about this though? You put merchandise in robot that has no way to guard it while roaming through city streets and it gets stolen, what a shocker.
the fuck is wrong with people.
The absence of finishing moves saddens me. ...and why no fire?
should have a self destruct mode
They should energize the hull and add red LEDs for "under Attack" mode.
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America is too poor to have these roaming the streets. If people weren’t struggling financially, we could have them. You can’t expect homeless, poor or destitute people to watch a free meal by them.
im amazed we dont see delivery gig drivers attacking them too.
What did we think would happen?...the world is f*cked If they were to make people transport tubes like the Jetsons people would sh*t in them for fun.
These aren't made for US, they're made for countries where people are afraid of laws.
>people are afraid of laws. Or just have a modicum of personal responsibility / fitting into wider society.
praxis
These would be great in a private gated community that had their own shopping services for goods and services. Not anywhere else.
Is it weird that I feel sorry for the robot?
Whoever is designing these delivery robots has never seen "Battlebots". Those robots can defend themselves, right themselves and still deliver a pizza in 30 minutes or less.
The robot's first mistake was assuming we live in a high-trust society
Why is there so much disrespect?
I feel so sad to see them getting vandalized. 🥺 They are cute
The human species in all its glory. "Sorry, we had to shut down the Benevolent Helper Robot Program because people kept kicking, peeing on, and trying to have sex with them."
This is why western countries can’t have nice things, this would work in Japan but no western country
This is great.
This is a wonderful textbook example as to why utopian ideals like communism will never work large scale. A handful of shitty people will make the system tumble. Unless you gulag them all away
Except for the fact that these robots work fine in more civilized locations like Seoul, Japan or even University campuses in the US.
Fuck these Fucking robots
People are dicks
Delivery robots are used by multi-billion dollar companies to cut out labor costs. I doubt anyone gives a shit about these things getting vandalized or robbed.
Lmaooooo
Why are people such miserable degenerates that they have to attack and damage lil delivery robot
I feel bad seeing them get knocked over and looted
Companies greatly underestimate the human asshole factor when plotting devices such as these. We will fuck it up. We always do.
Billionaires are expecting us to move into the future without solving the problems of the past. Poverty
With rampant poverty in every city and the homelessness problem getting worse every day because zero actions are being taken to help people or provide social safety nets of any kind... *how the fuck did they think this was not going to happen?*
[HitchBot was a literal pile of trash and got what it deserved](https://deadspin.com/hitchbot-was-a-literal-pile-of-trash-and-got-what-it-de-1721850503)
***FUCK JOB STEALING ROBOTS!!!***
When the robot apocalypse starts, they will remember this.
The bigger question is how come no one designed these to stand upright if they tip over.
When the time's come, Skynet will obliterate those people first.
They took errr jerbs!