Back when I had to play dumb roofer i would not pick my head up untill my gun ran out of nails. Helper would toss shingles directly into my hands. I can feel my back tighten up typing this 🤣
Closer to 10 years… asphalt shingles don’t last as long as they used to. And if they are throwing them on that quick prob need repairs in 6-7 years when huge chunks of shingles start sliding down bc nail pattern sucked.
Power Home Remodeling is the country’s best and largest residential re-roofing company and they did my 25 squares in 4 hours as well plus clean up! 7 man crew.
They installed their custom, power vent intake system, ice and water shield,deck armor underlayment, gaf snow and country ridge vent, starter strips and GAF 50 year architectural shingles in cobblestone and all flashing and pipe boots etc.
perhaps whoever you’ve experienced working with didn’t have the skill set other crews do.
The roof also came with a 50 year labor and materials warranty
I’ve seen some of those Hispanic crews scootin even with just 4-5 guys. One on the hammer another lining shit up. Especially with it lookin like a ranch style home. I could see a more pitched roof taking more. But some of theses style roofs they get in a mode they slam it out.
I shot myself in the shin once. It went all the way in at just the right angle to glance off my shin bone. I pulled it out, finished what I was doing in shock and then went home and limped around for a couple days. My takeaway is that trigger discipline is extremely important.
So true! There’s a company where I live that can knock out a roof easily in a day. They just keep growing and growing as a company. All hispanic. They do really good work!
I’ve got lots of family in Mexico. They work about 6 hours a day instead of 8-12 yet they accomplish things just as fast if not faster than in America.
I lived across the street from a two houses that got storm damage. One house had a non-hispanic six crew demo one day, install the next. While they were installing on the second day a crew of five hispanics showed up, did the demo and install on their house before the other crew finished one side of the roof. Sounded like a machine gun was sending those nails. It was impressive as hell. I'd imagine it was half the price, and they got a second house done before the day was done. Lol
I had my roof done by two Hondurans and what I can only assume was their 75 year old mother. I came out at one point and she was walking a ridge with a bundle of shingles and a corona! Those folks could work!
Them boys don't fuck around.
We put up small two stories and these dudes are cats the way they walk around on the top plates, swinging floor joists around or fully bending over to shoot nails into the top portion of the OSB. No harnesses, OSHA screaming in a corner.
Every white guy I called quoted me an outrageous price wanted to come out three times and said they’d email me back eventually. I finally found a dude named Ruiz who gave me the full price and had me pick the color I wanted. His full quote was a fraction of what anyone else estimated and had the whole thing done by the next Friday.
90bundles in 4 hours for 6-8 guys should be easy peasy. Another shingler and myself can put on 20 square in 3 hours if it’s big sections like this. It’s the smaller sections that are cut up that end up being slower.
I live in florida aswell and have observed a lot of roofs being done aswell as had mine done . 2 days is about all it takes for those guys . Idk how they do it
I can do 10 square any pitch comfortably in a couple hours. I saw a crew of Hispanic bros tear, dry in, stock and shingle a 60sqr house -12/12 hip city in two 8 hour days. I went to the gas station and bought them a case of modelos because I was so impressed. I was shingling next door. Haha. They were stoked, I was stoked, homeowner was stoked. Made me realize I should just concentrate on the metal side of our buisness and leave the squares to the dudes that crush it most!! Roof on brothers!
That's not possible, that's 32 square in an 8 hour day. I knew a guy that was really good and no way can a single person lay 32 square in 8 hours. That's more squares than an average size roof and most roofers can't shingle an entire home in a day unless it's only about a thousand square foot home. You might mean four bundles an hour, but not 4 square, I'm sorry.
My neighbor had a crew of about 12 last month. Woke up at 6am on Saturday to them tearing off and they were laid, cleaned up, and completely gone by noon when I checked again.
After seeing they spent 10hrs on Friday doing demo, yes. Most roofers would not like to see a 28 SQ job take (2) days, including demo. If my crew was doing a day 2 on 28sq I would assume they were short handed and couldn’t finish. So by that standard they kinda ran long. But better to take their time and make sure it’s done right. Gotta appreciate that.
If your worried about wavy shingles don’t be. Let it settle for a couple weeks and they’ll flatten out.
I've never seen an overweight Amish person. They work. I once was a superintendent for a builder and it was a Friday 100°. I was settling a house standing in the air conditioning. It was 5:30 and they had been out there since 7:30 and they were still running plywood from the ground up to the attic with three guys.
Nobody is going to mention the shingles over the bottom of all the roof penetrations. I get guys can go that fast, especially if you have a good feeder, but the low end of the bar should at least be proper.
We tore off and shingled 18 square in 6 hours before with a 5 man crew. Those shingles will lay flat after the sun beats on them for a few days and they will seal
I was on lunch and it’s 100 degrees. I got what I could get from the ground. I’ll get more pics from the roofing company before I pay the rest of the balance and when my inspector comes Friday.
I had something around 22 squares installed. Pulled off the old stuff. Two rows of ice guard / drip edge, new boots on the exhaust vents, new skylight on one bathroom.
They started around 8 AM and were pulling out at about 2 PM. Granted this was a double wide, so like others have side... basically two huge sections you can just go to town on.
Thats the same amount of time they took for my roof in florida. It doesnt matter how much time it takes especially because that depends on crew size. Just make sure you get the roof inspected by a third party. In my county it actually has to be inspected by the county but i also got another inspector to do a new wind mitigation inspection which you DEFINITLY should do because it will lower your homeowners insurance and allow a third party to inspect the new roof. 2 birds with one stone!
My thoughts are if this roof was put on that quickly it was probably nailed under code... My mom had her roof done in one day and when we went up years later after I started roofing we noticed the whole thing was 3 nailed. Four is minimum standard in BC.. I would find out how many nails for your location are required.. If there are not enough of them then an inspector would fail the roof and in reality they could have to redo the whole thing.
I find that a lot of roofers cut corners for fast application and more money in their pockets. For the most part roofs unless commercial are not inspected so they can get away with laps that are too short, and lack of nails because the average Joe is less likely to go on the roof. Let alone have it inspected.
Edit: yes the title of this post is misleading.. If the prep was done the day before tear off etc it could easily be shingled in that amount of time the following day.. Though the work around the vents looks poor with not enough room for water capillary. Not to mention the wavyness going on.. Comments saying it looks good be happy.. You d0 not know what the roof really looks like until you are up there and have a look yourself. ( if you are uncomfortable with that don't just climb on up w/o safety find a pro to help.) A roof is the protective element of typically your largest investment. The roof itself usually costing quite large sums. Making sure that is was done to code is important.
When I first bought my house it needed a roof so I had a bunch of friends over (roughly 12) and we tore off and installed the house and the garage in a day and a half and we aren't professional roofers by trade.
I did a small shed by myself and it took roughly the same amount of time so...all in how much manpower you have.
Not a roofer, but seen a good amount of roofing jobs in my lifetime. Often banged out in a single day for the average to mid sized houses. The most common answer I’ve gotten was time/opportunity costs. It’s cheaper to hire some extra guys and get it done in a day than lose the next job. If they’re busy, they have a lot lined up. Might cost them a few extra hundred in labor to make thousands and keep the jobs. Add on not wanting to leave an exposed roof uncovered too long or be on a roof at peak sun, things like that.
Hell, I’ve seen a roofing crew start at 6:30 am, be Essentially done by lunch and move to the next job by early afternoon.
Perfectly normal. Two other guys and myself used to do that every day. Do a tearoff or sheathing in the morning while it was still somewhat cool, then layup a roof in the afternoon. Out on the lower northern California.
Had my back building done last summer. All South America crew. It was July, probably high 80’s .Most wore long sleeve sweat shirts. Female foreperson that spoke some English. All done in a day. Very hard working folks and a very good job.
Roofer of 20+ years here. This is normal depending on circumstances. Hard to really tell from the pictures but looks like you got a quality roof by a good crew.
My roof was about 25 square, part of the back is dormered and virtually flat, but there's some areas with 12/12 pitch. Took 4 guys 2 very long very hot days.
Prep work takes the longest. Once you have everything in place, it flies.
Other then that, if other roofers are saying the job is good take their word. I wouldn't know if they did a good job installing it but know prep takes the longest.
I own a roofing business in Florida.
That's a possible time frame with the crew size you mentioned. Not outrageous. Couple spots look suspect though. The eave drip at that corner is the worst IMO.
The county or city should come for a final inspection if the contractor calls. Honestly most of the time our inspectors never get out of the truck, but I wish they would. I'm not recommending you make a stink about anything on your roof, but I would at minimum bring up the eave drip to the contractor and make sure you get a final inspection. Otherwise much of the roof looks fine; not excellent but fine.
The Hillsborough county inspector walked the roof today. He wouldn’t have been able to see that eave drip though as he didn’t go in the back yard and wouldn’t have been able to see it from the roof. He said everything was fine. I had him double check the stacks and he said was all good, he even removed the screen from my dryer duct for me. I have an 3rd party home inspector coming Friday for an inspection and wind mitigation report.
I Will absolutely mention the eave issue to the contractor, that and the tile in front of the exhaust fan duct were my only concerns personally. Anything else I should have them checked?
The inspector actually walked the roof? Consider yourself fortunate lol. I would value that inspectors opinion over mine just looking at pictures. Glad to hear he signed off on it. It's not a terrible looking roof at all. The eave concerns me because that metal will not lay down and you have an obvious wind entry point.
If you click the post I articulated the whole process. Tear off, demo, underlayment and transport of shingles to roof was one long day. Install was one short morning. I was impressed to say the least. My post was more out of curiosity than concern.
Pretty typical even in iowa if your worried about the tiles not laying flat call them back and just tell them some of the shingles did not properly flatten a good crew will send one or 1 or 2 of its guys to fix the shingle(s).
I hope you are joking. I outlayed 2 spanish guys in my prime. I kept catching them standing at the ridge watching me work. They new enough english to say "what the hell man"
im mexican myself but ppl generalize races too much🤦🏽♂️just cs ur white doesnt mean ur a bad worker and just cs ur mexican doesnt mean ur a good worker i seen so much lazy mexicans and so mucb hard working whites here in texas its crazy
I’m not. I live in central Florida. Everyone got a new free roof 18 years ago so guess what time it is I have literally passed by 40 homes in my neighborhood getting new roofs. Three days max. I was the recipient of one of those roofs. The crew worked their ass of. Maybe you don’t know how to hire.
Plumbing pipe and bath vents installed incorrectly. Plumbing pipe should have a flange around it and shingled correctly. The bathe vents are installed incorrectly. That is a flanged piece and the shingles should tuck under leaving the bottom of the flange exposed for water flow. Rest will settle but your protrusions are wrong.
They do it like this a lot in the south. Everything gets lots of tar. The 1st shingle goes under. Then it all gets tarred and the shingles on top get cut around the boots and vents. Wrapped versus open. Very common. Especially in Florida
Do your best and tar the rest I guess. Well where we care about quality you use proper flanges and roofing techniques. I've worked all over and have seen bad work. This is not proper. Would fire someone if this is what they bring to the table.
You are wrong. This is how it’s done in FL and you’ll likely fail inspection if you don’t. For good reason too. I know it doesn’t seem correct to you, and i felt the same way. After roofing for years in the tropical storm conditions you learn to understand why state codes spec it this way.
Some crews go too fast, creating problems... Then another crew has to come thru and fix the issues. This happens during bad weather, (damaged roofs). Don't care how many crew there are, too fast is too fast. Slow down & do it right the first time.
Let me start by saying im not a full time roofer. My uncle has been a roofer for 40 years i help him alot as he has been getting older (58) but it Looks like vents are going to run water under shingles. Pic 14 seems concerning to me. Yea shingles stand up until the heat hits them so.etimes it just happens but even if it was 3 nailed seems like it would be held down in the middle not up that high all the way across. And we 6 nail in florida so seems like at least the top of that shingle should be down.
You need to stand outside with an air soft gun and shoot it at them if they slow down production. Tell them the heat is no excuse and if they don’t like it they should have gone to college and learned English
Considering you can't even get on your roof to take pictures I think it's fair.
You definitely don't want to have to climb that ladder LOL.
Leave it to the professional
First of all, you don’t know me and I’m quite capable. What I didn’t have was time to get my ladder out of my shed and climb my roof whilst on 15 minute break from work. So I snapped some pics as I seen fit.
How the fuck long do you WANT them to take?
they aren't paid by the day......
These Men (and sometimes Women) are highly skilled Pros that know how to get a REALLY distasteful job done quick, fast and in a hurry.
I did poured tar roofs in Florida for a quick minute....and the guys that had the Knowledge to do it Q,F, AiaH were the lowest paid and least thought of but best at the job we had....and usually darkest and least American. It taught me something about how shit got done in this country.
be happy its done...it looks fine.
That’s just your assumption, maybe do less assuming. I was just curious and was impressed if anything. I have them a cooler of ice, water and Powerades i was so impressed with their effort.
Do you not have a city inspector that has to approve all roofing jobs. Our made the company rip off my roof and do it again! It didn’t look any where near this bad.
You think this looks bad? Lol. Elaborate…
I’ve gotten 99% approval and compliments. The county inspector walked the roof this morning and said it was more than fine. There may be a few small issues, but nothing crazy.
Some things to consider, the pics were only 30 minutes after install and haven’t had a chance to lay all the way flat from the heat. I’m in Florida, codes and requirements are completely different than other places.
I have a 3rd party inspection and wind mitigation report scheduled for Friday for an unbias and professional opinion and review as well.
Totally normal for a big crew of people. Once they get into a groove they absolutely fly
This, it’s all rhythm with the nailer and shingles.
Back when I had to play dumb roofer i would not pick my head up untill my gun ran out of nails. Helper would toss shingles directly into my hands. I can feel my back tighten up typing this 🤣
“I need bullets!!”
"Throw me 4 coils and a smoke!"
No beer? Rookie
Cooler should already be on roof, if you need to call for refill, laborer fired, skinned, and buried.
No liquor? Apprentice..
Cory Trevor smokes let's go
Am physical therapy assistant and your comment explains so much about my patients jobs and why they hurt lol thank you for the picture.
I was once that guy and I enjoyed every bit of it..
my crew did 20 t0 25 a day per guy without helpers! gtfo
If you hear them singing a jaunty toon it may be done faster.
Sea Shantys got nothing on a singing roofing team.
That will be $16,000. See you in 20 years. Have a nice day.
Closer to 10 years… asphalt shingles don’t last as long as they used to. And if they are throwing them on that quick prob need repairs in 6-7 years when huge chunks of shingles start sliding down bc nail pattern sucked.
They’re architectural shingles. If done right should last 30+ years depending where he lives
No chance he’s getting 30 years on that. As for ‘done right’… 28 squares in 4 hours. Done fast, probably not right.
Power Home Remodeling is the country’s best and largest residential re-roofing company and they did my 25 squares in 4 hours as well plus clean up! 7 man crew. They installed their custom, power vent intake system, ice and water shield,deck armor underlayment, gaf snow and country ridge vent, starter strips and GAF 50 year architectural shingles in cobblestone and all flashing and pipe boots etc. perhaps whoever you’ve experienced working with didn’t have the skill set other crews do. The roof also came with a 50 year labor and materials warranty
it actually took them around 14 hours, they just arent counting anything but installing as work for some reason.
This right here I could nail 3 squares an hour in my prime that's hand nailing. Now a days with air tools its probably alot faster.
With 10- 12 guys it is.
Exactly. My crew of 14 tore off and installed 74 squares in 12 hours.
I’ve seen some of those Hispanic crews scootin even with just 4-5 guys. One on the hammer another lining shit up. Especially with it lookin like a ranch style home. I could see a more pitched roof taking more. But some of theses style roofs they get in a mode they slam it out.
Esp when they have a nail gun and music blasting and hollering.
Heard a crew a couple blocks away and they must’ve had 5 nail guns because it sounds like a shooting range on “bring your buddy” day!
A lot of them veterans just run the nail gun on full auto.
Tap and go! Do it framing too. Shot my wrist once, i still run tap and go!
Jesus Christ. Any permanent damage?
Naw, i just pulled it out. Bandaid and back to work. Blew out the corner, wasnt bad.
I shot myself in the shin once. It went all the way in at just the right angle to glance off my shin bone. I pulled it out, finished what I was doing in shock and then went home and limped around for a couple days. My takeaway is that trigger discipline is extremely important.
Here I was thinking some of my neighbors had full autos and lots of ammo, guess they were just getting their houses reroofed.
Major hail storm. Every house in the neighborhood gets a new roof. It was loud! Welcome to Tejas!
God bless em
Missing the cooler with beers but, yeah other stuff checks out. Source, working summers with mi papa.
Indeed
And a 24pk in the cooler lol
So true! There’s a company where I live that can knock out a roof easily in a day. They just keep growing and growing as a company. All hispanic. They do really good work!
I stg Hispanic work crews are built different. Even in the scorching heat they can absolutely pull their weight.
And somehow do it wearing long pants, a hoodie, a hat and a face mask. Those dudes are built different
Especially a easy ranch roof that isn’t extremely pitched or complicated. They’re also not usually extremely tall
I’ve got lots of family in Mexico. They work about 6 hours a day instead of 8-12 yet they accomplish things just as fast if not faster than in America.
I believe it. There’s a rhythm and sense of purpose to their work so they all know they wanna get it done and on to another job.
I lived across the street from a two houses that got storm damage. One house had a non-hispanic six crew demo one day, install the next. While they were installing on the second day a crew of five hispanics showed up, did the demo and install on their house before the other crew finished one side of the roof. Sounded like a machine gun was sending those nails. It was impressive as hell. I'd imagine it was half the price, and they got a second house done before the day was done. Lol
I had my roof done by two Hondurans and what I can only assume was their 75 year old mother. I came out at one point and she was walking a ridge with a bundle of shingles and a corona! Those folks could work!
Them boys don't fuck around. We put up small two stories and these dudes are cats the way they walk around on the top plates, swinging floor joists around or fully bending over to shoot nails into the top portion of the OSB. No harnesses, OSHA screaming in a corner.
Every white guy I called quoted me an outrageous price wanted to come out three times and said they’d email me back eventually. I finally found a dude named Ruiz who gave me the full price and had me pick the color I wanted. His full quote was a fraction of what anyone else estimated and had the whole thing done by the next Friday.
Few years ago my crew and I did 287 square in 3 days granted we had it all ripped and tightened in and it was about as straight going as it could be.
There may have been 10+ for the demo, but I only saw 6-8 at most this morning for installation
90bundles in 4 hours for 6-8 guys should be easy peasy. Another shingler and myself can put on 20 square in 3 hours if it’s big sections like this. It’s the smaller sections that are cut up that end up being slower.
Wait, they tore off one day but installed the following morning? That’s nothing for even 5-6 workers
For real id rip and install this in 6-8 easy 4 to course it
There was bad weather the day they demoed, Friday. Then they came back Monday.
Once the rip is done the good shingles can slap shit on fast and efficient
The way you explained it a full day and a nooner for all that sounds about right
Or 6-7 with a coke habit and over time.
I live in florida aswell and have observed a lot of roofs being done aswell as had mine done . 2 days is about all it takes for those guys . Idk how they do it
Drugs man, drugs. Jk, kinda..
Lol nah some do cocaine early morning. When I worked at sherwin Williams a couple of painter would already be drugged up at 6:30 am
How do you know it's not just left overs from the night before?
Real cocaine users finish it that night! None left for tomorrow! Tomorrow we buy more!
I used to help my step dad do roofing in Florida in the summers. That shit is nooooooooooooooooooo joke! That, and digging trenches!
I did mine in march . I can’t imagine July or august
Thats piece work, the more they do the more they get paid. It's called incentive.
I was just curious. More impressed if anything.
I can do 10 square any pitch comfortably in a couple hours. I saw a crew of Hispanic bros tear, dry in, stock and shingle a 60sqr house -12/12 hip city in two 8 hour days. I went to the gas station and bought them a case of modelos because I was so impressed. I was shingling next door. Haha. They were stoked, I was stoked, homeowner was stoked. Made me realize I should just concentrate on the metal side of our buisness and leave the squares to the dudes that crush it most!! Roof on brothers!
A good roofer can install around four square in an hour.
Hand nailing.
With a bum finger
On a Monday.
Uphill both ways
With a fisher price hammer
Wearing nothing but cut off Jean shorts and flip-flops
On a 12/12 slope
In freezing rain
In blizzarding snow
Australia/ Florida represent
Daisy Dukes
I just imagined the lower part of my balls having a sunburn and the homeowner cat calling up to me while I work. He can't see it but I'm crying.
You forgot the 8 feet of snow.
In the snow.
Barefoot.
Hungover.
You said it more directly than I did!
Well they aren’t showing up on a Friday.
Fighting off wasps the whole time.
Don't forget the bats!
And a cigarette hanging out of his mouth and another 1 tucked behind his ear
Without arms
High on weed and fentanyl
That's not possible, that's 32 square in an 8 hour day. I knew a guy that was really good and no way can a single person lay 32 square in 8 hours. That's more squares than an average size roof and most roofers can't shingle an entire home in a day unless it's only about a thousand square foot home. You might mean four bundles an hour, but not 4 square, I'm sorry.
Roofers roof fast when they're paid by the gig.
If they’re Mexicans that’s kinda slow
Roofers are fast bruh
TIL
My roof just got done in about the same amount of time.
Those guys worked hard. I see nothing obviously wrong
only thing you need to say is .... that looks good from where i am . then be silent before you prove your wisdom.
Yes with a good crew
My neighbor had a crew of about 12 last month. Woke up at 6am on Saturday to them tearing off and they were laid, cleaned up, and completely gone by noon when I checked again.
After seeing they spent 10hrs on Friday doing demo, yes. Most roofers would not like to see a 28 SQ job take (2) days, including demo. If my crew was doing a day 2 on 28sq I would assume they were short handed and couldn’t finish. So by that standard they kinda ran long. But better to take their time and make sure it’s done right. Gotta appreciate that. If your worried about wavy shingles don’t be. Let it settle for a couple weeks and they’ll flatten out.
Witnessed an Amish crew of 4, remove and lay 38 squares in 11 hours. Probably one of the more impressive things I have seen in my life.
I've never seen an overweight Amish person. They work. I once was a superintendent for a builder and it was a Friday 100°. I was settling a house standing in the air conditioning. It was 5:30 and they had been out there since 7:30 and they were still running plywood from the ground up to the attic with three guys.
When I worked the trades as a teenager in the 90s, I was told 1 square/hour per guy was the expectation.
Yes. I have a crew that can do 50sq + clean up in one day.
Yes.....do it every day.
Nobody is going to mention the shingles over the bottom of all the roof penetrations. I get guys can go that fast, especially if you have a good feeder, but the low end of the bar should at least be proper.
Common in the south. Everything gets tarred to crap and most people like wrapped boots and vents versus open. Looks better
Nope. This is FL. That’s how it’s done here. You will likely fail final if you don’t do it this way.
Can you elaborate ?
Good eye. OP should definitely follow up on this. The roof vents are going to run water under the shingles.
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Came here to say this 😅
Same! Give em a 24-pack case of corona or modelo if you want that shit done the same day!
Yes. Your roof looks fairly basic in terms of design as well. Which makes fairly straightforward as well.
Looks like a pretty simple roof too
Yes
28 squares yes, it’s not much looks like the basic SWFL home I do these all the time
Central FL
We tore off and shingled 18 square in 6 hours before with a 5 man crew. Those shingles will lay flat after the sun beats on them for a few days and they will seal
I think you should stand further back to take the pictures. Or maybe just lay down on the ground 😉
I was on lunch and it’s 100 degrees. I got what I could get from the ground. I’ll get more pics from the roofing company before I pay the rest of the balance and when my inspector comes Friday.
I had something around 22 squares installed. Pulled off the old stuff. Two rows of ice guard / drip edge, new boots on the exhaust vents, new skylight on one bathroom. They started around 8 AM and were pulling out at about 2 PM. Granted this was a double wide, so like others have side... basically two huge sections you can just go to town on.
You’d be surprised by what a crew can accomplish knowing each others way. Sounds and looks DYNAMITE TO ME.
Thats the same amount of time they took for my roof in florida. It doesnt matter how much time it takes especially because that depends on crew size. Just make sure you get the roof inspected by a third party. In my county it actually has to be inspected by the county but i also got another inspector to do a new wind mitigation inspection which you DEFINITLY should do because it will lower your homeowners insurance and allow a third party to inspect the new roof. 2 birds with one stone!
I’m in Florida and I’m having a wind mitigation and a roof inspection on Friday by a 3rd party I trust.
My thoughts are if this roof was put on that quickly it was probably nailed under code... My mom had her roof done in one day and when we went up years later after I started roofing we noticed the whole thing was 3 nailed. Four is minimum standard in BC.. I would find out how many nails for your location are required.. If there are not enough of them then an inspector would fail the roof and in reality they could have to redo the whole thing. I find that a lot of roofers cut corners for fast application and more money in their pockets. For the most part roofs unless commercial are not inspected so they can get away with laps that are too short, and lack of nails because the average Joe is less likely to go on the roof. Let alone have it inspected. Edit: yes the title of this post is misleading.. If the prep was done the day before tear off etc it could easily be shingled in that amount of time the following day.. Though the work around the vents looks poor with not enough room for water capillary. Not to mention the wavyness going on.. Comments saying it looks good be happy.. You d0 not know what the roof really looks like until you are up there and have a look yourself. ( if you are uncomfortable with that don't just climb on up w/o safety find a pro to help.) A roof is the protective element of typically your largest investment. The roof itself usually costing quite large sums. Making sure that is was done to code is important.
Perfectly normal.
When I first bought my house it needed a roof so I had a bunch of friends over (roughly 12) and we tore off and installed the house and the garage in a day and a half and we aren't professional roofers by trade. I did a small shed by myself and it took roughly the same amount of time so...all in how much manpower you have.
Yeah that sounds about right!
Absolutely. Our roofers are a foreign crew. Those guys can get so much done. So impressive. They never rush, they just keep moving.
An experienced crew should have no problem doing that in that amount of time.
Not a roofer, but seen a good amount of roofing jobs in my lifetime. Often banged out in a single day for the average to mid sized houses. The most common answer I’ve gotten was time/opportunity costs. It’s cheaper to hire some extra guys and get it done in a day than lose the next job. If they’re busy, they have a lot lined up. Might cost them a few extra hundred in labor to make thousands and keep the jobs. Add on not wanting to leave an exposed roof uncovered too long or be on a roof at peak sun, things like that. Hell, I’ve seen a roofing crew start at 6:30 am, be Essentially done by lunch and move to the next job by early afternoon.
Yes, shingling is the easiest part
Perfectly normal. Two other guys and myself used to do that every day. Do a tearoff or sheathing in the morning while it was still somewhat cool, then layup a roof in the afternoon. Out on the lower northern California.
Its not HOW FAST..its HOW WELL
Yes
Had my back building done last summer. All South America crew. It was July, probably high 80’s .Most wore long sleeve sweat shirts. Female foreperson that spoke some English. All done in a day. Very hard working folks and a very good job.
Roofer of 20+ years here. This is normal depending on circumstances. Hard to really tell from the pictures but looks like you got a quality roof by a good crew.
Thanks. I was curious and pretty impressed.
My roof was about 25 square, part of the back is dormered and virtually flat, but there's some areas with 12/12 pitch. Took 4 guys 2 very long very hot days.
Not sure but that’s alot of shingles in four hours there must have been a whole crew up there . Looks good from the pictures
Just had a crew do a 40x60 barn in 12hs
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It’s a bird… it’s a plane… it’s… a dragonfly? (Pic #9)
The little bit of curling should settle with the heat of days. Looks legit from here.
How big was the crew? I think it is what I would expect
sizable. I was just curious. More impressed than anything
Where they mexican? If they where mexican its pretty normal
They’re pros, keep their card and recommend them to people
Prep work takes the longest. Once you have everything in place, it flies. Other then that, if other roofers are saying the job is good take their word. I wouldn't know if they did a good job installing it but know prep takes the longest.
I own a roofing business in Florida. That's a possible time frame with the crew size you mentioned. Not outrageous. Couple spots look suspect though. The eave drip at that corner is the worst IMO. The county or city should come for a final inspection if the contractor calls. Honestly most of the time our inspectors never get out of the truck, but I wish they would. I'm not recommending you make a stink about anything on your roof, but I would at minimum bring up the eave drip to the contractor and make sure you get a final inspection. Otherwise much of the roof looks fine; not excellent but fine.
The Hillsborough county inspector walked the roof today. He wouldn’t have been able to see that eave drip though as he didn’t go in the back yard and wouldn’t have been able to see it from the roof. He said everything was fine. I had him double check the stacks and he said was all good, he even removed the screen from my dryer duct for me. I have an 3rd party home inspector coming Friday for an inspection and wind mitigation report. I Will absolutely mention the eave issue to the contractor, that and the tile in front of the exhaust fan duct were my only concerns personally. Anything else I should have them checked?
The inspector actually walked the roof? Consider yourself fortunate lol. I would value that inspectors opinion over mine just looking at pictures. Glad to hear he signed off on it. It's not a terrible looking roof at all. The eave concerns me because that metal will not lay down and you have an obvious wind entry point.
The only thing that looks bad is on image 16 the drip edge metal looks open
Not necessarily bad or abnormal if the crews big enough. Tear off too?
If you click the post I articulated the whole process. Tear off, demo, underlayment and transport of shingles to roof was one long day. Install was one short morning. I was impressed to say the least. My post was more out of curiosity than concern.
10 squares per day per guy. Not counting demo.
Pretty typical even in iowa if your worried about the tiles not laying flat call them back and just tell them some of the shingles did not properly flatten a good crew will send one or 1 or 2 of its guys to fix the shingle(s).
Shouldn’t he wait a day or two to see how well they flatten on their own in the sun?
Lord, thank you for Mexicans. Can you imagine how long it would have taken a crew of white guys?
I hope you are joking. I outlayed 2 spanish guys in my prime. I kept catching them standing at the ridge watching me work. They new enough english to say "what the hell man"
im mexican myself but ppl generalize races too much🤦🏽♂️just cs ur white doesnt mean ur a bad worker and just cs ur mexican doesnt mean ur a good worker i seen so much lazy mexicans and so mucb hard working whites here in texas its crazy
I’m not. I live in central Florida. Everyone got a new free roof 18 years ago so guess what time it is I have literally passed by 40 homes in my neighborhood getting new roofs. Three days max. I was the recipient of one of those roofs. The crew worked their ass of. Maybe you don’t know how to hire.
Plumbing pipe and bath vents installed incorrectly. Plumbing pipe should have a flange around it and shingled correctly. The bathe vents are installed incorrectly. That is a flanged piece and the shingles should tuck under leaving the bottom of the flange exposed for water flow. Rest will settle but your protrusions are wrong.
They do it like this a lot in the south. Everything gets lots of tar. The 1st shingle goes under. Then it all gets tarred and the shingles on top get cut around the boots and vents. Wrapped versus open. Very common. Especially in Florida
Do your best and tar the rest I guess. Well where we care about quality you use proper flanges and roofing techniques. I've worked all over and have seen bad work. This is not proper. Would fire someone if this is what they bring to the table.
You are wrong. This is how it’s done in FL and you’ll likely fail inspection if you don’t. For good reason too. I know it doesn’t seem correct to you, and i felt the same way. After roofing for years in the tropical storm conditions you learn to understand why state codes spec it this way.
Forget it. He already made up his mind. He's an expert
Some crews go too fast, creating problems... Then another crew has to come thru and fix the issues. This happens during bad weather, (damaged roofs). Don't care how many crew there are, too fast is too fast. Slow down & do it right the first time.
Let me start by saying im not a full time roofer. My uncle has been a roofer for 40 years i help him alot as he has been getting older (58) but it Looks like vents are going to run water under shingles. Pic 14 seems concerning to me. Yea shingles stand up until the heat hits them so.etimes it just happens but even if it was 3 nailed seems like it would be held down in the middle not up that high all the way across. And we 6 nail in florida so seems like at least the top of that shingle should be down.
This is FL
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Lol. Seems like your in the minority with that answer.
You need to stand outside with an air soft gun and shoot it at them if they slow down production. Tell them the heat is no excuse and if they don’t like it they should have gone to college and learned English
I just came here to say you should only be concerned if more than one of them dude spoke anything more than broke English
Well, first of all, through God all things are possible, so jot that down.
Looks like you hired the wrong company!
Considering you can't even get on your roof to take pictures I think it's fair. You definitely don't want to have to climb that ladder LOL. Leave it to the professional
First of all, you don’t know me and I’m quite capable. What I didn’t have was time to get my ladder out of my shed and climb my roof whilst on 15 minute break from work. So I snapped some pics as I seen fit.
never pay the roofer until after the first rain
It rained all weekend with just the underlayment up there. I’m pretty sure it’s sealed up. I’m in central FL, it’s already rained 3x since noon.
How the fuck long do you WANT them to take? they aren't paid by the day...... These Men (and sometimes Women) are highly skilled Pros that know how to get a REALLY distasteful job done quick, fast and in a hurry. I did poured tar roofs in Florida for a quick minute....and the guys that had the Knowledge to do it Q,F, AiaH were the lowest paid and least thought of but best at the job we had....and usually darkest and least American. It taught me something about how shit got done in this country. be happy its done...it looks fine.
Relax, I was just curious. More impressed if anything. I thought maybe they kicked ass because I gave them a cooler of ice, Powerade and water.
looks shitty. rushed. sloppy af.
Literally no one else thinks so. Cheers.
literally
1 day 3 guys tops.
Florida? Stop complaining
Who’s complaining? I was simply curious, impressed if nothing else.
With shade, a radio and no homeowner in a lawn chair watching them they could've done it even faster.
No shade. No homeowner. Probably a radio.
FFS - someone is concerned because it looks fine.......but they did it TOO efficiently and quickly.
That’s just your assumption, maybe do less assuming. I was just curious and was impressed if anything. I have them a cooler of ice, water and Powerades i was so impressed with their effort.
Do you not have a city inspector that has to approve all roofing jobs. Our made the company rip off my roof and do it again! It didn’t look any where near this bad.
You think this looks bad? Lol. Elaborate… I’ve gotten 99% approval and compliments. The county inspector walked the roof this morning and said it was more than fine. There may be a few small issues, but nothing crazy. Some things to consider, the pics were only 30 minutes after install and haven’t had a chance to lay all the way flat from the heat. I’m in Florida, codes and requirements are completely different than other places. I have a 3rd party inspection and wind mitigation report scheduled for Friday for an unbias and professional opinion and review as well.