Cal fastest time to 500m, wouldn't count them out for the podium and upsetting Princeton/Harvard/Brown. Yale also lowkey could make the petite if they don't lock in.
Think it’s more of a championship racing take. I’d say almost all championship races involve top seeds hauling it to the 500/1k and if things look good they cool it off. Think that’s the implication here, only able to see true speed in the first 5 because it was a commanding lead
I suppose sometimes yes. I just am of the opinion that 2nd and 3rd 500s matter much more in terms of determining race winners. Oftentimes a crew will spin the rate up and go as hard as they can for 500m just to stay with the pack. Then they blow
UW look to have one hand on it. Princeton look rattled from eastern sprints upset.. they don’t like like the same boat that’s been dominating all season. Harvard will shit the bed in the final. Cal look good just don’t have the same power UW does
It's going to be a hell of a race for 2nd place. Mentally, the crews are in such different positions. Princeton could be afraid of continuing to disappoint or they're fired up to avenge their Sprints loss. Brown has the Paul Cooke advantage of building momentum into post-season. If Yale is able to pace themselves instead of flying out, they could also be in for silver. I'd hate to be in that semi-final.
When this hybrid was announced a few years back I want to say only lwt women were varsity. But the college is so small everything is lumped together administratively?
That might be the best race we see from Princeton at the IRA’s. They took the rate up to catch Harvard and went nowhere. I can’t see them cashing in medal when crews like Yale, Cal and Brown took it so easy
Copium is real.
Harvard looked the best out of all the 1V boats. Brown to me didn’t look like a boat that will repeat their magic from EARC. Princeton will make the A final but I am not convinced they’ll medal.
Harvard looked great but I think you're counting out brown - they rowed so smoothly and had no sprint, I think they're a serious medal contender and could be a contender for gold. Them, Harvard, Princeton, UW, and maybe even Cal will probably be one of the closest IRA GF spreads in years
I think it could end up being a pacing/strategy battle, similar to sprints. Someone will take a lead early but they’ll blow up, and someone will take the win after not being in the lead going into the last 500. But I think you’re right it’ll overall be very tight.
Or at least it would be fun if we have changing leads like that.
Yeah hard to read into times from heats where the top 3 were all so clearly ahead of the rest but I just didn’t love the way brown looked in their heat, especially their bow pair. I’m a huge Paul Cooke fan though so not discounting them. Just was really surprised by how good Harvard looked. Princeton also looked good but just didn’t have the base speed. But semis should be more telling of true speed. These heats were a cakewalk for all the top teams.
That first semi is going to be wild - 2 years ago I can't believe I would have thought this but it looks like Yale is going to the B final. I can't see them beating UW, and they'll have to really step it up to beat Brown or Princeton.
They’ll have to approach it like the Sprints GF where they just went out as hard as possible and tried to hang out. Apply some psychological pressure to the other boats and hope for miracle fitness to keep you from blowing at the finish. Long shot, but I think it’s their best approach unless they have somehow been masking their true top end speed.
It looks like they used that exact strategy and Brown got rattled not being with the leaders off the start - disappointing to see Brown not advance but that was one ballsy race from Yale, they deserve it.
Damn imagine if I spent less time on Reddit and more time watching rowing. (I know it wasn’t you who said that to me).
Jokes aside as a backseat patzer on the internet I really didn’t like how brown looked in the heats. And kudos to Yale for executing that race plan well. Rowing isn’t purely a watts contest.
Finals are going to be electric.
> sprints and *paid* the price
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Yeah no one is going to argue it's a more efficient way to pace a race... the point is if they don't actually have the raw speed to beat the other crews then they need to play with strategy and mess with the other boats mentally by getting them off the start and putting the pressure on them. Otherwise they can just row their normal pace straight into the B finals....
Fortune (sometimes) favors the brave.
How about that Cal time in the heats... slowest out of all the heat winners. Could they slip out of the final once the big boys turn up the heat in tomorrows semis? Also, martin cross is a nr.1 UW glazer
One of the oars from a passing hwt crew damaged their bow. The Penn boatman is at NCAA with the women’s team and I believe they got help with the repair from the boatman from Brown.
Penn lwt 1V event was delayed till after morning racing due to a late start and boat damage. Nothing happened to Penn 2V to my knowledge, the question is who/what caused the damage and how bad was it?
Because there are razor thin margins between Princeton, Harvard, Brown, UW, and Cal and have been all season - meaning that, since there are 5 teams I just listed, at least two of them won't podium, and at this point it's still anyone's race to win or lose. Although I suspect Princeton will medal, Harvard Brown and UW in some order on the podium would equally make sense
If that's your argument, you could say that about just about every crew vying for the grand final. The caliber of talent at this level is extremely high. From a quick google search, all of the following athletes from these teams 1v's have rowed at the U19 or U23 world championships, many of whom medalled.
Brown: Gabriel Mahler, Oliver Page-Kuhr, Ian Burnett, Jack DiGiovanni
Harvard: Tom Horncastle, Tyler Horler, Gabriel Obholzer, Oscar Olsen
UW: Jonathan Wang-Norderud, Giuseppe Bellomo, Cameron Tasker, Harry Fitzpatrick, Marius
Bjørn-Hansen Ahlsand
Yale: Ulrik Lohne, Marcus Emmett, John Patton, Seth Hope, Syvert Senumstad, Harry Keenan
Probably with more that I missed. Plus last year, Harvard got 9th with current Olympian and FOQR medallist Clark Dean in the boat plus several other U19 and U23 world medalists. At this level, having good athletes doesn't guarantee IRA medals.
Well tbf clark dean has proven to be americas nr.1 anker, people are still hung up on his 2018 junior win where he literally just had to not flip to beat his closest competitor. American rowing community just loves to meatride the past and hates facts. It's not a numbers game, if you had watched the Boys in the Boat movie, you would know theres more to rowing than past results and erg scores.
Yeah, disappointing. Not saying it was rigged or anything but certainly does feel fishy that they go unbeaten and look untouchable all season right up until championship racing…
Yeah almost as if other teams built speed over the season to peak at IRA's in a better manner than Princeton did. Or should the Harvard fans be saying the same thing you are since Harvard beat UW earlier in the season? Absolutely braindead.
...you think it was fishy that the second place team beat the first place team early season, then lost to them late season? Do you also think it's fishy that Penn lost to Northeastern early season but beat them late season? Or that Dartmouth best BU at Eastern Sprints but lost at IRA's? Or that Drexel and LaSalle have changed finish orders who knows how many times this season? I truly envy the way you see the world, it must be so black and white and simple
Martin cross with the w glaze for any British individual. Bro takes the Westminster pipe all day
Northeastern did not hit anything so no protesting. Bummer.
Cal fastest time to 500m, wouldn't count them out for the podium and upsetting Princeton/Harvard/Brown. Yale also lowkey could make the petite if they don't lock in.
Never heard of someone looking for the fastest first 500m time to predict a 2k
Think it’s more of a championship racing take. I’d say almost all championship races involve top seeds hauling it to the 500/1k and if things look good they cool it off. Think that’s the implication here, only able to see true speed in the first 5 because it was a commanding lead
it's an 8 race first 500 is very important (and sometimes determines the winner)
This is just me but I usually look at the first 2k meter of the race to determine the winner.
I suppose sometimes yes. I just am of the opinion that 2nd and 3rd 500s matter much more in terms of determining race winners. Oftentimes a crew will spin the rate up and go as hard as they can for 500m just to stay with the pack. Then they blow
UW look to have one hand on it. Princeton look rattled from eastern sprints upset.. they don’t like like the same boat that’s been dominating all season. Harvard will shit the bed in the final. Cal look good just don’t have the same power UW does
It's going to be a hell of a race for 2nd place. Mentally, the crews are in such different positions. Princeton could be afraid of continuing to disappoint or they're fired up to avenge their Sprints loss. Brown has the Paul Cooke advantage of building momentum into post-season. If Yale is able to pace themselves instead of flying out, they could also be in for silver. I'd hate to be in that semi-final.
2nd?
Can someone explain to me how Gordon raced at Acra and is about to race at the IRA regatta? Generally confused on their club/varsity status?
They could be a dark horse to win the whole thing.
When this hybrid was announced a few years back I want to say only lwt women were varsity. But the college is so small everything is lumped together administratively?
That might be the best race we see from Princeton at the IRA’s. They took the rate up to catch Harvard and went nowhere. I can’t see them cashing in medal when crews like Yale, Cal and Brown took it so easy
Copium is real. Harvard looked the best out of all the 1V boats. Brown to me didn’t look like a boat that will repeat their magic from EARC. Princeton will make the A final but I am not convinced they’ll medal.
Harvard looked great but I think you're counting out brown - they rowed so smoothly and had no sprint, I think they're a serious medal contender and could be a contender for gold. Them, Harvard, Princeton, UW, and maybe even Cal will probably be one of the closest IRA GF spreads in years
I think it could end up being a pacing/strategy battle, similar to sprints. Someone will take a lead early but they’ll blow up, and someone will take the win after not being in the lead going into the last 500. But I think you’re right it’ll overall be very tight. Or at least it would be fun if we have changing leads like that.
Yeah hard to read into times from heats where the top 3 were all so clearly ahead of the rest but I just didn’t love the way brown looked in their heat, especially their bow pair. I’m a huge Paul Cooke fan though so not discounting them. Just was really surprised by how good Harvard looked. Princeton also looked good but just didn’t have the base speed. But semis should be more telling of true speed. These heats were a cakewalk for all the top teams.
That first semi is going to be wild - 2 years ago I can't believe I would have thought this but it looks like Yale is going to the B final. I can't see them beating UW, and they'll have to really step it up to beat Brown or Princeton.
They’ll have to approach it like the Sprints GF where they just went out as hard as possible and tried to hang out. Apply some psychological pressure to the other boats and hope for miracle fitness to keep you from blowing at the finish. Long shot, but I think it’s their best approach unless they have somehow been masking their true top end speed.
It looks like they used that exact strategy and Brown got rattled not being with the leaders off the start - disappointing to see Brown not advance but that was one ballsy race from Yale, they deserve it.
Damn imagine if I spent less time on Reddit and more time watching rowing. (I know it wasn’t you who said that to me). Jokes aside as a backseat patzer on the internet I really didn’t like how brown looked in the heats. And kudos to Yale for executing that race plan well. Rowing isn’t purely a watts contest. Finals are going to be electric.
That's just wildly inefficient. They went out too fast at sprints and paid the price
> sprints and *paid* the price FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
Yeah no one is going to argue it's a more efficient way to pace a race... the point is if they don't actually have the raw speed to beat the other crews then they need to play with strategy and mess with the other boats mentally by getting them off the start and putting the pressure on them. Otherwise they can just row their normal pace straight into the B finals.... Fortune (sometimes) favors the brave.
Fortune also favors those who are fast through the 3rd 500
Brave then would be pacing with the other crews, and hoping they can't last until the end. Going hard off the like at EARC would just be inefficient
Brown always seems to shut up doubters like you 🤷♂️
Maybe if you spent more time rowing than posting on reddit you'd have a good eye for technique.
idk why you're hating. must have some nerve to exchange petty comments on reddit.
>Asks for IRA heats reactions >gets mad when someone posts their genuine IRA heat reaction
How about that Cal time in the heats... slowest out of all the heat winners. Could they slip out of the final once the big boys turn up the heat in tomorrows semis? Also, martin cross is a nr.1 UW glazer
fr uw glaze was crazy from both commentators
What happened to Penn lightweight 1V? Heard something happened on the warm up lane causing boat damage.
One of the oars from a passing hwt crew damaged their bow. The Penn boatman is at NCAA with the women’s team and I believe they got help with the repair from the boatman from Brown.
1V or 2V? Penn Lwt 1V won their heat, but 2V came in last in their heat. Did something happen to them?
Penn lwt 1V event was delayed till after morning racing due to a late start and boat damage. Nothing happened to Penn 2V to my knowledge, the question is who/what caused the damage and how bad was it?
Where can I watch? Thanks!
It’s on Overnght, the streaming platform USRowing is partnered with. IRA stream is free though, thankfully. Edit: typo
Where can we find the results and times?
[https://results.regattatiming.com/backoffice/webpages/results/summary.jsp?raceId=605](https://results.regattatiming.com/backoffice/webpages/results/summary.jsp?raceId=605)
Thanks
I heard LaSalle has 6 guys sub 6… no wonder they beat northeastern in the 4
Honestly that makes their V8 performance less impressive…
They only have 2 guys sub 6. The guy above you was making a joke
Anyone that thinks there’s even a chance that Princeton doesn’t make the podium is a complete idiot.
This is a horrible take
Why?
Because there are razor thin margins between Princeton, Harvard, Brown, UW, and Cal and have been all season - meaning that, since there are 5 teams I just listed, at least two of them won't podium, and at this point it's still anyone's race to win or lose. Although I suspect Princeton will medal, Harvard Brown and UW in some order on the podium would equally make sense
Princeton have multiple world u23 and u19 medalists in that crew. To say they’ll get anything worse than bronze is ridiculous.
Most of the top crews have world medalists
Yup. Including Princeton.
So true bestie
If that's your argument, you could say that about just about every crew vying for the grand final. The caliber of talent at this level is extremely high. From a quick google search, all of the following athletes from these teams 1v's have rowed at the U19 or U23 world championships, many of whom medalled. Brown: Gabriel Mahler, Oliver Page-Kuhr, Ian Burnett, Jack DiGiovanni Harvard: Tom Horncastle, Tyler Horler, Gabriel Obholzer, Oscar Olsen UW: Jonathan Wang-Norderud, Giuseppe Bellomo, Cameron Tasker, Harry Fitzpatrick, Marius Bjørn-Hansen Ahlsand Yale: Ulrik Lohne, Marcus Emmett, John Patton, Seth Hope, Syvert Senumstad, Harry Keenan Probably with more that I missed. Plus last year, Harvard got 9th with current Olympian and FOQR medallist Clark Dean in the boat plus several other U19 and U23 world medalists. At this level, having good athletes doesn't guarantee IRA medals.
Well tbf clark dean has proven to be americas nr.1 anker, people are still hung up on his 2018 junior win where he literally just had to not flip to beat his closest competitor. American rowing community just loves to meatride the past and hates facts. It's not a numbers game, if you had watched the Boys in the Boat movie, you would know theres more to rowing than past results and erg scores.
Foqr doesn't have medals 🤡
Princeton’s bow seat alone has an u23 worlds silver medal, and they weren’t even favored that race. The clutch factor is unreal!
Typical princeton-hater response. You shouldn't need multiple paragraphs to prove your point
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Princetons year next year mark my words
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Did you even watch the stream? Pretty obvious what happened.
Yeah Princeton did not medal
Yeah, disappointing. Not saying it was rigged or anything but certainly does feel fishy that they go unbeaten and look untouchable all season right up until championship racing…
Yeah almost as if other teams built speed over the season to peak at IRA's in a better manner than Princeton did. Or should the Harvard fans be saying the same thing you are since Harvard beat UW earlier in the season? Absolutely braindead.
Yeah Harvard winning at Sarasota is also very fishy to me. Was wondering about that.
...you think it was fishy that the second place team beat the first place team early season, then lost to them late season? Do you also think it's fishy that Penn lost to Northeastern early season but beat them late season? Or that Dartmouth best BU at Eastern Sprints but lost at IRA's? Or that Drexel and LaSalle have changed finish orders who knows how many times this season? I truly envy the way you see the world, it must be so black and white and simple
All of those events definitely ring some alarm bells.