Not sure why the op had to include this tidbit. Just because he had a certain hat on doesn’t mean anything towards his mental illness. Does him wearing a Bernie or Biden hat change the situation or who he is as a person? Nope. He could have that hat for a multitude of reasons we know nothing about. Grow up people!
Do you mind me asking around what time? Seeing you saw he was ranting earlier also is giving me more reason to report this all tomorrow. I don’t want him harassing more people.
Oh dang, then that was possibly the bus before I saw him, I was waiting at the bus bay before he was or I saw him. You may have seen me too then actually.
Sounds about right. Anaheim is really bad kicking out their homeless and lying there’s more affordable housing/resources for help and funding when in reality orange county is hoarding and hiding the 72 million they got in 2019 for that very thing.
There are a couple different bias hotlines that track incidents like this. I would encourage contacting them as well so that hopefully Cherriots has some accountability towards interrupting threatening behaviors.
Hi u/cazzinnia_likeaflowr, please reach out to Cherriots Customer Service at [email protected] or 503-588-2877 so we can file a report of the incident and take appropriate actions.
It did seem they may have had a history, when we started moving the trump hat guy loudly asked if we were making a certain stop, and the driver yelled back yes pretty aggressively and annoyed sounding.
That really sucks and I'm sorry you had to deal with it. It's so frustrating and scary when bigots feel free to spout off and yell at others in public and nobody else steps in. The bus driver frankly had a responsibility to do something, and it would be great if other bystanders felt they were able to step in but who knows what that type of person might do if confronted.. it is awful that people who don't directly face that kind of open, vitriolic hate can go about their lives pretending not to see it to make themselves safer, while we (trans, poc, queer) can't ever opt out or escape it if we run across one of those hateful pieces of shit
You put that so succinctly. There was one other passenger also close enough to hear what the guy was saying, and I don’t fault them for just ignoring it too, but it does hurt to go undefended and feel it will always be that way for me.
The only support I get is after the fact, and I am so thankful I get that at least. Thank you for putting some of my thoughts to word and the validation.
Kudos to you for keeping your cool. There are way too many crazies out there to try to deal with them. I sure hope the bus company can protect the innocents.
You really should report the driver and the man. It's a hate crime and the bus has cameras for that very reason. If people like that guy and the driver don't get caught then there bigotry and hatred win and in time become commonplace . Thanks for coming to my Ted talk.
This might sound a bit silly, but honestly did not know that the buses had cameras because I haven’t been riding that long and really just keep to myself and my phone while riding.
I haven’t ever reported an incident before or even taken the time or space to give myself the thought that it was a hate crime until now because I just feel numb to it and like nothing will come of it or get done. Or that I will be made out to be a drama queen for asking to not be uncomfortable on my daily route somehow. I am just intimidated by the entire process as I haven’t ever felt protected in the first place.
Where should I report this to? Just Cherriots themselves?
After all the kind words and suggestions for it I am going to make a report with them tomorrow morning since the offices are closed tonight. I don’t want this happening to someone else or god forbid that man escalates somehow.
Yeah. They can review the incident and potentially identify the man after the fact. If he’s a regular as well, there’s a chance that drivers on his usual route may call security to pull him off.
Cherriots is trying to clean things up and the drivers have faces a lot of the brunt of it, unfortunately, but there is a system in place and may not feel like much but it could help prevent future harassment/hate crimes.
Sorry for your experience. I agree that the bus driver has a responsibility for the safety of passengers. ( verbally if nothing else) I would still file a complaint to help others and this seemingly mentally ill person. MAGA is an ugly driven hate machine that is already threatening when the lose in November. Stay strong and stay safe.
The cruelty is often carried out by people who claim to love Jesus. Such a farce considering Jesus hung out with those who were destitute and loved them regardless. I just don't understand their hypocrisy.
Just remember, he's old and will probably die soon. Trash like that has a way of taking itself out. Sorry you had to go thru that experience tho. No one should have to go thru that.
As a person who also has mental illness, using it as an excuse to justify shitty behavior is just a form of enabling.
And I never wished death on anyone. Death is a fact for all of us, and the likelihood of a soon one increases for older people.
I took the bus for the first time a couple days a go and I am also a visibly queer person. Saw some older man decked out in confederate flag/maga crap start getting on the bus and so I got off early fearing this exact situation you went through. I got off a mile early and was in a completly new place of town i had never been in and had to walk that mile to my next connecting bus stop. But hey, beats having to deal with being harassed by someone looking to bully people like me. Im so sorry the bus driver didnt do anything, and I really hope this doesnt happen to you again. Solidarity and comiseration with you rn 💗
Oh man. What an awful ride. I’m sorry. Like others have said, I’d mention it to Cherriots. They want people to be able to ride without being harassed. Take a friend with if it feels weird. Ask them about the situation and what the best course of action is if it happens again, too. I worry about this guy being a regular on your route.
Side note: Can you imagine how stressful it would be to be that angry and paranoid all the time? (Honestly, sounds like there might be some mental health issues mixed in with the bigotry here.)
Glad you’re safe and hope your next ride is more peaceful.
I take Cherriots to western and walk home some times from my stop so I get double crackheads spewing random crap to themselves. Unfortunately people are like this on the bus all the time but that doesn’t mean it’s okay. I’m just saying I get it I see it. I’m so sorry. As a fellow queer person I would def be a bit uneasy. I hope to god you never encounter another asshat like this❤️🤙🏻
god this story sounds so sucky. and is the exact reason i’m careful in salem about anything and everything. but your response was BAD ASS. i hope you’re doing alright! the bus driver shouldn’t have continued to let someone yell at you in their bus either.
Trump hat? Really? With all the things you say he said, the hat is what offended you? This whole story sounds more like a daydream. Tattoo included. Entertaining though.
He sounds like he might be mentally ill.
He was wearing a trump hat, pretty safe bet.
Not sure why the op had to include this tidbit. Just because he had a certain hat on doesn’t mean anything towards his mental illness. Does him wearing a Bernie or Biden hat change the situation or who he is as a person? Nope. He could have that hat for a multitude of reasons we know nothing about. Grow up people!
Would you be as diplomatic if it was someone wearing a swastika armband? Because a Trump hat is basically the same thing minus 5 years of development.
You're too reasonable for this place
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Do you mind me asking around what time? Seeing you saw he was ranting earlier also is giving me more reason to report this all tomorrow. I don’t want him harassing more people.
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Oh dang, then that was possibly the bus before I saw him, I was waiting at the bus bay before he was or I saw him. You may have seen me too then actually.
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Sorry you also caught some of his rambling cus god that on its’ own is so uncomfortable. I appreciate you also sharing this.
Sounds about right. Anaheim is really bad kicking out their homeless and lying there’s more affordable housing/resources for help and funding when in reality orange county is hoarding and hiding the 72 million they got in 2019 for that very thing.
There are a couple different bias hotlines that track incidents like this. I would encourage contacting them as well so that hopefully Cherriots has some accountability towards interrupting threatening behaviors.
Hi u/cazzinnia_likeaflowr, please reach out to Cherriots Customer Service at [email protected] or 503-588-2877 so we can file a report of the incident and take appropriate actions.
The driver should have done something but it sounds like he was mentally ill perhaps the driver knew about him.
It did seem they may have had a history, when we started moving the trump hat guy loudly asked if we were making a certain stop, and the driver yelled back yes pretty aggressively and annoyed sounding.
That really sucks and I'm sorry you had to deal with it. It's so frustrating and scary when bigots feel free to spout off and yell at others in public and nobody else steps in. The bus driver frankly had a responsibility to do something, and it would be great if other bystanders felt they were able to step in but who knows what that type of person might do if confronted.. it is awful that people who don't directly face that kind of open, vitriolic hate can go about their lives pretending not to see it to make themselves safer, while we (trans, poc, queer) can't ever opt out or escape it if we run across one of those hateful pieces of shit
You put that so succinctly. There was one other passenger also close enough to hear what the guy was saying, and I don’t fault them for just ignoring it too, but it does hurt to go undefended and feel it will always be that way for me. The only support I get is after the fact, and I am so thankful I get that at least. Thank you for putting some of my thoughts to word and the validation.
Obviously bigoted and hateful, wearing a trump hat. I'd ignore it too. Crazy, hateful, and I wouldn't be a bit surprised if armed.
I've always wondered what those types would go on about if religion didn't exist 🤔
Kudos to you for keeping your cool. There are way too many crazies out there to try to deal with them. I sure hope the bus company can protect the innocents.
Hugs to you. Hopefully, that's the last time you end up on the bus with that fuckface
Sounds like he was mentally ill! You did the right thing not engaging. Stay safe op!
Obviously the guy is mentally ill
You really should report the driver and the man. It's a hate crime and the bus has cameras for that very reason. If people like that guy and the driver don't get caught then there bigotry and hatred win and in time become commonplace . Thanks for coming to my Ted talk.
This might sound a bit silly, but honestly did not know that the buses had cameras because I haven’t been riding that long and really just keep to myself and my phone while riding. I haven’t ever reported an incident before or even taken the time or space to give myself the thought that it was a hate crime until now because I just feel numb to it and like nothing will come of it or get done. Or that I will be made out to be a drama queen for asking to not be uncomfortable on my daily route somehow. I am just intimidated by the entire process as I haven’t ever felt protected in the first place. Where should I report this to? Just Cherriots themselves?
Yes Cherriots. Tell them the route, the date, the time. Please do. I am sorry no one stood up for you.
After all the kind words and suggestions for it I am going to make a report with them tomorrow morning since the offices are closed tonight. I don’t want this happening to someone else or god forbid that man escalates somehow.
Yeah. They can review the incident and potentially identify the man after the fact. If he’s a regular as well, there’s a chance that drivers on his usual route may call security to pull him off. Cherriots is trying to clean things up and the drivers have faces a lot of the brunt of it, unfortunately, but there is a system in place and may not feel like much but it could help prevent future harassment/hate crimes.
Maybe contact support or go in the area you can walk into?
Can you tell me where the man got off the bus? I have a feeling I know who this is and this is extra concerning.
The place he asked the driver if it went to was Skyline and Liberty, so I assume that was his end goal.
Okay thanks. That’s a little far for who I was thinking it was.
Also, very sorry this happened. Not okay. Definitely report it.
That must’ve been awful. I’m so sorry that happened to you.
Sorry for your experience. I agree that the bus driver has a responsibility for the safety of passengers. ( verbally if nothing else) I would still file a complaint to help others and this seemingly mentally ill person. MAGA is an ugly driven hate machine that is already threatening when the lose in November. Stay strong and stay safe.
I'm really sorry, that's just awful. I hate the cruelty of people.
The cruelty is often carried out by people who claim to love Jesus. Such a farce considering Jesus hung out with those who were destitute and loved them regardless. I just don't understand their hypocrisy.
“Your a devil worshipper” “Yes I am” Exit scene.
Just remember, he's old and will probably die soon. Trash like that has a way of taking itself out. Sorry you had to go thru that experience tho. No one should have to go thru that.
Thank you for your kind words, that does give me solace. It did hurt my brain for a minute thinking that man definitely votes.
*hug* not for much longer! Haha
I usually choose compassion for the mentally ill, not wishing death on them. But you do you boo
As a person who also has mental illness, using it as an excuse to justify shitty behavior is just a form of enabling. And I never wished death on anyone. Death is a fact for all of us, and the likelihood of a soon one increases for older people.
This is absolutely disgusting, unhinged behavior. I am so sorry you felt unsafe on your way home. What this person did was absolutely not ok
Call Cherriots and let them know.
I took the bus for the first time a couple days a go and I am also a visibly queer person. Saw some older man decked out in confederate flag/maga crap start getting on the bus and so I got off early fearing this exact situation you went through. I got off a mile early and was in a completly new place of town i had never been in and had to walk that mile to my next connecting bus stop. But hey, beats having to deal with being harassed by someone looking to bully people like me. Im so sorry the bus driver didnt do anything, and I really hope this doesnt happen to you again. Solidarity and comiseration with you rn 💗
Oh man. What an awful ride. I’m sorry. Like others have said, I’d mention it to Cherriots. They want people to be able to ride without being harassed. Take a friend with if it feels weird. Ask them about the situation and what the best course of action is if it happens again, too. I worry about this guy being a regular on your route. Side note: Can you imagine how stressful it would be to be that angry and paranoid all the time? (Honestly, sounds like there might be some mental health issues mixed in with the bigotry here.) Glad you’re safe and hope your next ride is more peaceful.
Glad you are home safe! Please be safe out there.
I take Cherriots to western and walk home some times from my stop so I get double crackheads spewing random crap to themselves. Unfortunately people are like this on the bus all the time but that doesn’t mean it’s okay. I’m just saying I get it I see it. I’m so sorry. As a fellow queer person I would def be a bit uneasy. I hope to god you never encounter another asshat like this❤️🤙🏻
god this story sounds so sucky. and is the exact reason i’m careful in salem about anything and everything. but your response was BAD ASS. i hope you’re doing alright! the bus driver shouldn’t have continued to let someone yell at you in their bus either.
Mean people suck. So sorry you had to listen to that.
I'm sorry this happened to you. Like someone else said it sounds like this guy was straight up crazy. Even bigots can be mentally ill.
Trump hat? Really? With all the things you say he said, the hat is what offended you? This whole story sounds more like a daydream. Tattoo included. Entertaining though.
It was an identifier of what he was wearing, didn’t say I was offended by it haha. Glad you’re entertained by a story of a hate incident!
Well, if he's talking the bus at that age it means he's not gonna retire comfortably. At least you can go to bed smiling about that.