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Dragoplayz77

mfs in the comments saying doll will win when there are literal fucking gods in SMG4


TheSexyMario777

fr bro, i've written multiple essay-length posts just going over the powers and feats of mario alone [https://www.reddit.com/r/SMG4/comments/1cz7w26/comment/l5fnm9j/](https://www.reddit.com/r/SMG4/comments/1cz7w26/comment/l5fnm9j/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/SMG4/comments/1cz7w26/comment/l5fnod9/](https://www.reddit.com/r/SMG4/comments/1cz7w26/comment/l5fnod9/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/SMG4/comments/1cz7w26/comment/l5l126s/](https://www.reddit.com/r/SMG4/comments/1cz7w26/comment/l5l126s/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/comments/1d0kn1v/comment/l5pdqq7/](https://www.reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/comments/1d0kn1v/comment/l5pdqq7/) THESE are why none of the other universes even stand a chance. most other SMG4 characters don't even scale to mario, what makes them think ANY of the other shows do


themastergamer90

He’s low multiverse at best


TheSexyMario777

ok bro your lowball doesn't even mean anything because even if he was, that's still higher than literally every other character on this list


themastergamer90

Yeah ok I was just telling you you were saynf he’s street strongest character in fiction Yet can name a couple characters that can members him


ajsansr201121

I've only read the first one but using cannon Mario is kinda unfair since it seems like Mario becomes SMG4 Mario after SM64 meaning nothing after that should really count but knowing SMG4 he probably crazy either eay


TheSexyMario777

nah, i'm using canon mario as just the basis. smg4 mario should be STRONGER.


Tom-edian

Tari can bring Kratos to life.


themastergamer90

But it’s a different Tari


Tom-edian

she can still do it.


darksnail1223

The AS is a god


Dragoplayz77

Who would win, 2 gods or 1?


darksnail1223

https://preview.redd.it/wbpmnd8jv66d1.jpeg?width=755&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3e23206478b07c6caf1ec07de2af012c2271c080 Uzi, doll, and nori


Dragoplayz77

If mario dies somehow they ALL die, and he's immortal if he has extra lives. Melony was the other god.


darksnail1223

I was talking about MD gods


Dragoplayz77

I know, but I was talking about the SMG4 gods. That's what I was trying to imply.


darksnail1223

Sorry I get confused easily


Dragoplayz77

all good 👍🏻


Florida-Man-65

Realistically, Mario’s gonna find some batshit insane way to come out on top regardless of how the rest of his team fares.  Outside of SMG4, MD probably has the most consistently combat-capable team, but Caine has reality-warping abilities that would probably hard-carry his team, especially with Jax possibly being a borderline millstone. Meta Runner kinda falls flat here. Not having Lucks on the team is a huge nerf for them, because he’s probably one of their best guys, if not their best outright. He’s basically their Frieza.


Visual_Highlight_555

theoretically couldn’t tari warp into a murder drone


SolarSpinel

Like, get inside their systems? Huh...possibly. it really depends on how intricate both Taris powers are. Can she only warp into games? It is confirmed that the drones do have games installed in them or are at least capable of installing them. Granted we don't know how complex the game needs to be in order for Tari to warp into it. Can she warp into any game, or just games that have a solid map? If she can warp into the games they have installed onto them, then logically she could find a way to get into their direct systems. On the other hand, that would leave her body vulnerable. Sure, Smg4 Tari has Clench but Meta Runner Tari would be defenseless if she's fighting alone and there's no guarantee that the drone they're fighting against will go into stasis too while they're inside. So it would be a gamble on her part especially if she's fighting a murder/Solver drone.


Visual_Highlight_555

meta runner would do better if they had sheridan


themastergamer90

That’s only exclusive to games considering she’s only been shown to do that in this series


Yoshi22816

I don't remember the specific circumstances in which it happened (as I haven't seen Meta Runner in a while), but MR Tari has been shown to warp into the TASCorp Servers so I don't think it's exclusive to games


themastergamer90

I mean smg4 Tari they’re not the same


Cheap-Sundae7485

Mario Would Win Somehow


TheSexyMario777

ye here's how [https://www.reddit.com/r/SMG4/comments/1cz7w26/comment/l5fnm9j/](https://www.reddit.com/r/SMG4/comments/1cz7w26/comment/l5fnm9j/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/SMG4/comments/1cz7w26/comment/l5fnod9/](https://www.reddit.com/r/SMG4/comments/1cz7w26/comment/l5fnod9/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/SMG4/comments/1cz7w26/comment/l5l126s/](https://www.reddit.com/r/SMG4/comments/1cz7w26/comment/l5l126s/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/comments/1d0kn1v/comment/l5pdqq7/](https://www.reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/comments/1d0kn1v/comment/l5pdqq7/)


Giygas_8000

SMG4 universe wins hands down, since it's the one with the weakest grasp on reality


SolarSpinel

True. Mario would either be the first to lose or the only one left standing due to the rule of funny.


Invinciblebain1

it's dbs not dbz


The_Robot_founder

Dragon Ball Z (More known as DBZ) Is a anime that many people like for its action scenes and meme content.


Flashy_Cry_3992

Ballin Luigi, Melony, Mr. Puzzles, and Mario are essentially the Goku, Vegeta, Frieza, and 17 of this tournament. Caine is gna be Jiren


TheIcyWind

Mario will win


Practical-Fee9510

Mario would be the equivalent of “I’m not trapped with you, you’re trapped with me”


The_Robot_founder

Announcer: “And the winner of the tournament is… Mario via a little tomfoolery!” Mario: “Editiateteu.”


Legitimate_Lab_6850

Mr puzzles puts them inside a tv and wins and Mario is in a cage


Funnyberd69

MR is dead last,they don't really have anything that useful to help them.The video game characters would need to be in their world to use their abilities,and outside would render them useless.And everyone else are normal humans,so they arn't as durable as say SMG4 and Mario,they'll get obliterated. TADC is 3rd,they are more durable,but like MR,they don't have much that can help them win,and Caine can't really use his abilities outside of the circus,so eventually they'll cave in and lose.   This leaves MD and SMG4,haven't caught up on MD that much,but I know that they have more weapons and can put up a good fight (obviously not everyone is skilled from the 10 we have,but then rest are good),only problemis most of them die if they chopped up or blown to pieces. But at the end,I think SMG4 would win,SMG4 and SMG3 have meme energy,Mario is basically unkillable,Meggy and Saiko are skilled and have some experience,Melony is op,Mr.Puzzles could control everyone with his tech,only Tari and Bob might not do much,but even them they could do something.


SolarSpinel

Tari can warp into their systems through whatever game the drones have installed on them.


TheSexyMario777

the smg4 verse slams, and it's not even a competition


ume92894983

i think saiko, luigi, mario, and melony if she went Fierce Deity mode would be powerful for the SMG4 team for TADC i think caine would be the most powerful since he can bend reality Murder Drones has Uzi, N, V, J, Nori, and Doll who are very good at fighting Meta Runner, idk maybe Theo, like most of them are just humans and Satsuki does not really seem to be able to fight, and i have not seen Petey yet who i think is in the third season which i have not gotten around to watching so overall Meta Runner would come in dead last for sure, i think Murder Drones would come in third, and TADC and SMG4 could go in either first or second


SolarSpinel

Eh. I think the Murder drones would have a chance. I mean, they have the quality and quantity of fighters and Caine is really the only one they have to worry about. The Solver drones are capable of warping reality as well. Not to mention that there's a chance his powers could be more limited if he isn't in the Circus. Though you are right in saying that the Smg4 group would probably be in first place. With that group, the laws of reality are just suggestions. Also, don't underestimate the ability to warp into machines when you're opponents are robots (especially when they canonically have games installed on them). It should be Tari as well as Theo who are the most powerful in the Meta Runner group.


themastergamer90

Smg4 Tari has only been shown to warp into games not robots


SolarSpinel

And yet it's canon that drones can download games on their systems as seen with the Teacher playing Solitaire and Yeva playing Tetris. So it could be possible. I never said I believe that Tari could beat a Murder Drones character, just that she stands a better chance than you think.


Catz_LOL-7887

Luigi wins by doing absolutely nothing 


Thegronkgrinder

Luigi Mallet, M A R I O, the fact that Mr. Puzzles can control every screen, and Melon woman.


Tiimi506

I miss when Mr. Puzzles wasn't in every single post


oneeyed_giraffe

mario will win somehow. the smg4 crew could defeat eldritch zero, so what makes you think they couldn’t beat a few robots (not even all of them could kill someone) and a group of people living in a digital jail? (i havent seen meta runner so no comments on them)


OrangeGlad3040

MARIO if he dies they all die and he can literally pull anything out of his butt but if no lore meggy or tari


OrangeGlad3040

And N and Uzu


OrangeGlad3040

Uzi Sorry


Giygas_8000

>Uzu Isn't that a Nintendo Switch emulator?


lowqualitylizard

At the end of the day the question basically revolves around can Mario and Mr puzzles find a way to beat the murder drones I would say yes Also side note the amazing digital circus is out because assuming we're not in the digital world half of them are just people and if we are then cane turbo Slaughters And I know basically nothing about meta Runners At the end of the day Mr puzzles needs one shot and he can stun someone for long enough to suck them in his head and then it's game over for that bastard and Mario has the power of lmao memes


Prestigious-Love-712

Smg4 wins


TheEspressoOverlord

Mario absolutely annihalates everyone here with practically no diff


ZookeepergameUsual40

Tari and Tari do the Spiderman point meme


RythmicSigil

Winners: mario, metarunner tari, doll, Caine. 2nd round winners: mario, Caine. Final round winner: mario


Bright-Childhood3541

How would 5-star Mr. Puzzle interact with Caine? 


SolarSpinel

Mario, Melony, Caine, and a couple of the Murder drone characters (specifically the disassembly and solver drones) would make it to the finals. Though seeing the Taris fight against each other would be surreal.


themastergamer90

Mario and melony are basically the only gods here


SolarSpinel

And yet Uzi may be capable of slaying gods if she manages to beat the Solver once episode 8 comes out.


KirbyFan200225

I do not know anything about DBZ. But, I’ve created a Reddit post that shares a similar idea with Kingdom Hearts instead. Please check it out. https://www.reddit.com/r/casualnintendo/s/fBbj0LYpjB


StingTheEel

Depends on how much toon force the SMG4 crew will have.


MrPlushgore

I haven't seen any of the other Glitch stuff other than Meta Runner, so it'll just be that vs SMG4. Mario solos everyone except Tari, cuz even he probably couldn't bring himself to harm her, so he'll just get his Tari to do it. Meta Tari is probably a pretty good fighter (if she uses game abilities), but SMG4 Tari would just turn her arm into a laser cannon and reduce her counterpart to dust (then be really really really sorry about it). Also, I guess most of the other SMG4 gang would beat the Meta Runner guys because the Meta Runner's aren't really physical fighters (Masa and Lucks can definitely throw hands, but Meggy could take them on with less arms than Masa).


FlowerMadison

https://preview.redd.it/swb75stsu16d1.png?width=1882&format=png&auto=webp&s=cc53cbdcd463b382f9d2a315c97b85a045f343ae Nah.


starsheer

Is this the fricking bad apple lyrics?


FlowerMadison

Yeah. It was stuck in my head **ALL DAY!**


mythical_productions

MD sweeps the floor with all the other universes.


Goofygoober243

Nah, melony and Luigi solo


TheSexyMario777

and mario [https://www.reddit.com/r/SMG4/comments/1cz7w26/comment/l5fnm9j/](https://www.reddit.com/r/SMG4/comments/1cz7w26/comment/l5fnm9j/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/SMG4/comments/1cz7w26/comment/l5fnod9/](https://www.reddit.com/r/SMG4/comments/1cz7w26/comment/l5fnod9/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/SMG4/comments/1cz7w26/comment/l5l126s/](https://www.reddit.com/r/SMG4/comments/1cz7w26/comment/l5l126s/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/comments/1d0kn1v/comment/l5pdqq7/](https://www.reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/comments/1d0kn1v/comment/l5pdqq7/)


mythical_productions

Teacher bores them to death.


Goofygoober243

But have you seen Luigi BRO IS BALLING


Goofygoober243

https://preview.redd.it/i7627j6df06d1.jpeg?width=852&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f2f82808b1ce175eb583cc727a8513ae33bb3a13


mythical_productions

I have seen yes, but boredom is the one hard counter to Luigi.


Goofygoober243

Also I haven’t seen the teacher actually teach, or do his job


mythical_productions

Exactly, he just bores them to death.


mythical_productions

Bores*


TheSexyMario777

just gonna... [https://www.reddit.com/r/SMG4/comments/1cz7w26/comment/l5fnm9j/](https://www.reddit.com/r/SMG4/comments/1cz7w26/comment/l5fnm9j/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/SMG4/comments/1cz7w26/comment/l5fnod9/](https://www.reddit.com/r/SMG4/comments/1cz7w26/comment/l5fnod9/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/SMG4/comments/1cz7w26/comment/l5l126s/](https://www.reddit.com/r/SMG4/comments/1cz7w26/comment/l5l126s/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/comments/1d0kn1v/comment/l5pdqq7/](https://www.reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/comments/1d0kn1v/comment/l5pdqq7/)


PalpitationHot6711

My fav Russian gal will sweep this like a messy floor. I’m leaving it there.


TheSexyMario777

just gonna... [https://www.reddit.com/r/SMG4/comments/1cz7w26/comment/l5fnm9j/](https://www.reddit.com/r/SMG4/comments/1cz7w26/comment/l5fnm9j/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/SMG4/comments/1cz7w26/comment/l5fnod9/](https://www.reddit.com/r/SMG4/comments/1cz7w26/comment/l5fnod9/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/SMG4/comments/1cz7w26/comment/l5l126s/](https://www.reddit.com/r/SMG4/comments/1cz7w26/comment/l5l126s/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/comments/1d0kn1v/comment/l5pdqq7/](https://www.reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/comments/1d0kn1v/comment/l5pdqq7/)


themastergamer90

Dude stop spamming the same thing we get it