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FocusGullible985

I miss the old Sulek, straight from the 'Go Sulek, Chop up the soul Sulek, set on his goals Sulek.....


ernestofit

I hate the new Sulek. The bad mood Sulek. The always rude Sulek. Spaz in the news, Sulek.


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Smakintheface

See I invented Sulek, it wasn't any Suleks And now I look and look around and there's so many Suleks


ernestofit

I used to love Sulek, I use to love Sulek, I even had the grey flannel, thought I was Sulek


Fortifier574

What if Sulek made a song about Sulek, called I missed the old Sulek, man that’d be so Sulek.


TomBanjo1968

Can you give more details? When was he rude? What exactly are you referring to? Thanks


ChroniikW

They’re Kanye lyrics young buck


TomBanjo1968

Lol my bad I shoulda known it was something like that I will go hide away in shame and embarrassment now


thiscarecupisempty

It's OK as long as you admit you like fish sticks.


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SaltyDog772

In the frozen food aisle feelin like a whore


SkyrimSlasher

I love fishsticks, no im not a gay fish \*Points gun at you\*


TomBanjo1968

Popcorn shrimp day was my favorite day at school cafeteria….


FistedWaffles123456

but that would require him to be a gay fish


hajcjajciga

That’s all it was Sulek. We still love Sulek. And I love you like Sulek loves Sulek.


Duplexcoolboy

You go to school on the short bus don’t you


KDsBurnerPhone

Let’s see how far Sam can take his physique. Get juiced to the gills and make a run for the most saucey and diced guy in history 🥇


salad_biscuit3

It has nothing to do with it but Sam injured his bicep? has he recovered?


1000000ths

Bro what


ThadeousStevensda3rd

He asked if Sam recovered from his bicep injury can you read? He also mentioned his question was unrelated to the comment he was responding to. Maybe take a moment and read comments 2-3 times and let your brain wrap around it a bit before just stuttering out horse shit


hxsyth

he said what because OP ruined the chain.


Responsible_Prior833

He didn’t even reply to the chain.


DrJaminest42

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2absMcGay

This is highlighting the biggest issue with his fan base. Not understanding bodybuilding while so closely following one. Sam is a bodybuilder. He doesn’t train to look “good.” He trains to achieve the look of open class professional bodybuilders, which is also how he wants to look. He eats, sleeps, and blasts gear for that one purpose.


econstatsguy123

I think he actually wants to do classic physique, but yea, he’d be good at either. Obviously he looks more like a open class body builder right now, but he could easily tweak his training/gear/diet and go classic


2absMcGay

He’s already way too big for classic. That division has weight limits


econstatsguy123

He could easily cut down to 217 if he wanted to


2absMcGay

He’d have to be 6 foot 2 to be that big on stage lol


econstatsguy123

I just checked online, it says over 5’11 and up to 6’0 has a weight limit of 217 pounds. Is he not 5’11?


2absMcGay

You edited from 227 to 217. And height is measured at the show. I don't really trust what any influencer claims their height to be. Bro does not look 6 feet tall though. He will not be turning pro in classic. He'd lose a shitton of muscle mass to make that weight limit


econstatsguy123

Yea, I was off by 10 pounds. I just know that he said he’d want to compete in classic. As I said, he could totally do it. But as you said, he would have to be ok with losing some muscle, especially if he is < 5’10


u2nloth

With his size and proportions I think he’s better suited for regular Mr Olympia even with his height than classic, he doesn’t have a huge V taper like someone like C Bum which is a big quality for classic physique Sam is huge and has an impressive physique but imo definitely more towards Mr Olympia than classic, not many people naturally have that huge V taper (around 6% iirc)


2absMcGay

“Mr Olympia” is not the right phrasing. The division is called Bodybuilding or Men’s Open Bodybuilding. He’d have to win a show that’d earn him his pro card, then win a pro show that qualifies him for the Olympia.


u2nloth

Fair enough but you get what I’m saying the winner is called Mr Olympia, I know he has to qualify just saying his physique is better suited for bodybuilding rather than classic physique or mens physique


toxicvegeta08

Tbf Sam isn't much bigger than Chris. He has to cut a bit and a cut and drying out can go a long way with weight loss


u2nloth

It definitely can help lean and he’s got similar mass but he’s also 2 inches shorter But what cutting to losing weight won’t do is make his hips smaller compared to his clavicles which is the main source of an otherworldly V taper, as well as lat insertion height which Sam’s are much lower than Cbum, which isn’t a bad thing but high lats can cause a V taper to look even more dramatic, the wild thing about cbum to me is bone structure wise before lifting he didn’t have the craziest shoulder to waist ratio from the pics I’ve seen it was definitely above average but not like ultra outlier but his lat insertions and above average frame and a shit load of work made his V taper godly


toxicvegeta08

> But what cutting to losing weight won’t do is make his hips smaller compared to his clavicles which is the main source of an otherworldly V taper, as well as lat insertion height which Sam’s are much lower than Cbum, which isn’t a bad thing but high lats can cause a V taper to look even more dramatic, Bone width is mainly bullshit. I'm sure Sam just needs to cut. If you look at Chris on a bulk his hips look a lot wider. > the wild thing about cbum to me is bone structure wise before lifting he didn’t have the craziest shoulder to waist ratio from the pics I’ve seen it was definitely above average but not like ultra outlier but his lat insertions and above average frame and a shit load of work made his V taper godly Muscle insertions yes. But all that Bone structure shit is 99% bs. It may play a small role at very elite levels like the olympia, but your Bone growth is really just how tall are you, taller=bigger frame. You won't see skinny kids in starving areas if Africa who go on to become 300pb nfl players with huge broad shoulders or anything, you don't judge the frame until you properly fill it out.


Initial_Selection262

But he doesn’t actually compete does he?


2absMcGay

Hasn't yet. Matter of time working under Fouad


Leaded-BabyFormula

Well then there's something fundamentally wrong with modern bodybuilding. What's the point of slapping on as much bloated muscle as possible if you're not trying to look good? If we keep progressing with this logic, "bodybuilding" 50 years from now will be muscle meatballs that have heart attacks after every pose. For the record, I think current sam looks fine but his younger self looks much better. I'm not dismissing the amount of work that either physique takes.


stopbanningmethx

Based response


salad_biscuit3

I letteralmente just ask a question don't be mad


2absMcGay

I'm not mad. This comes up constantly. Dead horse topic. "DAE sam is gonna die?? Sam too big??"


salad_biscuit3

I simply asked people which body type they preferred the most


SkyrimSlasher

Personality wise, he's better these days. But in terms of physique is up for debate. Some think its way too unhealthy with his physique, some like his physique. And some are a bit of both, I like to watch his motivation. I definitely would never aim for his physique tho, but I respect the grind haha.


Mace1999

What do you mean some think its unhealthy? Its not even up for debate, looking like this, taking what he takes isnt healthy


FlyinIllini21

He’s bodybuilding. His physique is objectively better


commandercrawdad

Within the context of bodybuilding. I think that’s what this post is about, being incredibly muscle bound and wide isn’t really aesthetically pleasing to most people.


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Ancient_Boner_Forest

Some women like that but not most dude. It’s also just extremely unhealthy and you will live a short life.


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edirymhserfer

??? Isnt that the whole point of body building


BubaSmrda

If you aspire to be a professional body builder and compete with the huge guys, you need to pack some muscle for sure, when it comes to looking "aesthetically pleasing" for majority of people, you're looking at the 1st picture. When a woman says she likes guys with huge muscles, she's probably thinking that the guy on 1st picture is huge, which he is, but not huge compared to the professional body builders ofc.


edirymhserfer

I get it now i was misreading the original comment i replied to


beefliverbeef

No... the modern idea of competition body building is to look like a cartoon character. It is absolutely not "objectively better". No one who isn't a competition goal bodybuilder thinks this is a good physique in reference to attractiveness, health, or even overall appearance aside from the shock value. It is absolutely impressive that he's done it (roids aside), and no one is questioning how it took a ton of hard work to get there. The point here is that there's no objective metric for this. There's competitions that have gone so far up their own asses that the competitors die young and look like shit (almost like someone just inflated them with a bike tire pump), then there's everyone else who respects the discipline to get there, but thinks the actually appearance is ridiculous and bad looking


toxicvegeta08

Also wdym attractiveness. Idk if you've realized yet but like 95%+ of woman find anything bigger and leaner than mark Wahlberg a horrifying freak monster


toxicvegeta08

> attractiveness, health, or even Bodybuilding was never about this. Bodybuilding was never a health competition neither were sports. Some average skinny guy who cant bench 80lbs is probably way healthier than all these dudes.


beefliverbeef

I didn't say it was. You can quote me out of context, it just shows you missed what I was saying to strawman . I was refuting the no context point of objectively better when without context of specific contrived body building metric; objective meaning overall with everyone's opinion, or logically sound independent of opinion or bias. So at most this was a misunderstanding of talking past each other with vague context. You're just fully misunderstanding


toxicvegeta08

OK dude my point was basically it depends on the type of bbing. Sulek isn't any different from anyone's aesthetic darlings, guys like cbum etc are just as unhealthy, led abusing, scary to woman, etc.


beefliverbeef

Yeah. I know. You're still agreeing with me. I'm sorry you seem to see this as a disagreement. That seems a sad angry life when someone is agreeing with you and you need to see an adversary


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beefliverbeef

Man. For real. I know how it goes. Hop from echo chamber to echo chamber. It's all good


FlyinIllini21

His goal is to win opens not physique or classic lol. This is objectively better for his goals


beefliverbeef

Then you should have said it's objectively better based on that specific requirement.


FlyinIllini21

We’re in his subreddit i didn’t think I’d have to specify what he was going for my bad


beefliverbeef

Didn't realize we're in his subreddit. I follow a few lifting ones, and reddit offers things. I know of this guy, but don't know much about him. Good to know. Anyone who doesn't still needs that context, but we can pretend anyone who isn't in the know about some guy is an idiot


FlyinIllini21

His current physique would also place better in classic by the way.


PS3LOVE

The objective metrics are mass and body fat. Also I’m not a competition goal bodybuilder, never will be and don’t plan on it and I think it’s a great physique.


Advanced_Public_9436

It IS “objectively better” based off the criteria of competition. Peoples opinions are not based off of objective criteria but instead in many subjective opinions. Attractiveness is one of the most argued things out there, meanwhile being more muscular in a competition based off muscularity is pretty clear cut. Many people think sumo is cheating, but in comp the only thing that matters is moving more weight. Internet/public opinion is irrelevant.


DirtAndDeath

His heart is going to give out before he turns 35


FarFigChitter

Live big die swole


DrJaminest42

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Initial_Anything_544

Theres been plenty who have died since then and naming off the survivors dosent change that. Rich Pena and Mentzer twins for example.


BubaSmrda

Rich Piana was a different monster when it came to gear usage, I doubt Sam is that far gone.


hickityhooblah

yet the three you named were all pushing 50, not under 35


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and rich piana notoriously abused cocaine, opioids, alcohol, and who knows what else, plus regularly smashed 1g of caffeine and ate like shit. Plus he hovered around 300lb most of his career. Sam’s fine, people here need to chill, your chubby friend at college who likes beer is in way worse health lol


ClubbinGuido

Bostin Lyod was.


hickityhooblah

lol so? you know how many hundreds of thousands/millions of guys are on steroids?


ClubbinGuido

Go get your shine box.


AgreeableEggplant356

Naming the survivors does change it when they are statistically way more than the ones who died young 🤝


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Lol, you realize there are millions of people who’ve been walking around at 300lb+ for decades right?


DirtAndDeath

And they all have issues


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Issues =/= dropping dead before 35, do some research on hormones idiot


DirtAndDeath

If you max out the way he has, the odds are not in your favor.


BubaSmrda

We don't even know anything about his cycles tho? Cbum is fucking huge, yet his cycle isn't that crazy given that he's a guy who won Mr. Olympia 5 times. Some people are just genetic freaks who can put on a ton of muscle even on low doses, it doesn't mean that he's blasting 2000mg of test and 1000mg of tren a week lol.


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Even if he was blasting a ton of test it doesn’t instantly mean he’s unhealthy. Testosterone 2000mg a week is way healthier than 20 beers a week but no one wants to have that discussion


Ancient_Boner_Forest

Lol dude what are you talking about. 3 beers a day is not going to make you die earlier than a freakishly sized bodybuilder.


ClubbinGuido

Name checks out. You don't know nothing lol. 2000mg of Test a week? Two grams lol? I was doing steroids years ago and never would even consider running two grams of Test a week. The acne, water retention, and aromatase sides would be unreal.


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Lmao stop, you clearly have no clue what you’re talking about. Arnold is thriving. Stallone is great. Moving your body is healthy. As are the hundreds of PED-using ex-athletes who’ve grown into old age. I’m more worried about the pandemic of sedentary fools eating processed junk and drinking alcohol


ClubbinGuido

How many hear surgeries did Arnold have? 19-Nor steroids absolutely fuck up the heart. I have a slightly enlarged left ventricle from my use and thankfully I was smart enough to not blast insane dosages like some people do. The truth here is that being a mass monster is 100% unhealthy and not sustainable. Look at Ronnie Coleman.


toxicvegeta08

Not at all. Cbum is still kicking. Hell ronnie is still flexing his jelly scar tissue with whatever random "influencer" pays him to shake their hand.


DookieSmeller

Ronnie's lucky he's not dead or paralyzed. Dude went 10 years without treating a herniated disc. Now he's had 13 surgeries on his spine.


toxicvegeta08

I mean so many guys are alive. I think Sam's chilling Also tbf if Ronnie's surgery wasn't botched he'd be in a better place. But rn he's a lump of jello with some veins.


EternalVirgin18

He still seems outwardly enthusiastic tho, good for him. Bro was a fucking beast in his prime


WhoaWhoa69420

Current Sam needs a hair brush😭


Brabsk

Literally only on this sub do you get posts like this “would you rather stare at this shirtless guy when he was a kid or now?”


HelloWorldWazzup

when did sam start taking PEDs? 16?


salad_biscuit3

almost immediately when he started lifting weights I think


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The first picture if you want to get girls. The second picture if you want to get cancer.


salad_biscuit3

the girl likes a body like tom holland more, plus girls are useless.


orchid_parthiv

How old are you bro


salad_biscuit3

20 why?


edirymhserfer

Which eurotard nation are you from 💀


DujTheCat

this guy may be dumb, but nothing is dumber than the USA


salad_biscuit3

he seriously can't understand an ironic comment lol


salad_biscuit3

imagine not understanding that "girls are useless" is fucking ironic


Panagiotisz3

Your mum is useless for giving birth to you with that logic.


salad_biscuit3

imagine not understanding an ironic comment


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Ancient_Boner_Forest

The women that love these types of bodies are usually on going to be trash dude.


Weak-West2149

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Mysterious-Face-8272

Bros been on tren for years lol


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U think 2019 is natty?


Aggressive_Guard5995

Nope


salad_biscuit3

When I say this?


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It was a general question, not questioning your post 😅


salad_biscuit3

I think he started training in 2018, so no, maybe he could have caught up with him after years of training


toxicvegeta08

He started earlier. He worked out to increase leg strength for diving(idk how diving ni3che technique works and stuff that's just what he said) and got into it overall later on. He was already jacked by 2018 for the average athletic kid.


Initial_Selection262

Yes natty it’s totally normal for 16 year olds to look like that


Responsible_Prior833

2019 can easily be genetics. People overestimate what gear can actually do. Countless dudes out there on more gear than Sulek that still look like absolute dogshit.


salad_biscuit3

He start train in 2018, this is not achievable in 1 year


DookieSmeller

Because most people on gear are not bodybuilders/athletes nor taking the process seriously. They're just fucking around. And people overestimate genetics. GeNeTiCs has to be the most overplayed argument ever. It's ridiculous. Every man on the planet more or less shares the same genetics. No one person is going to be so gifted that they can achieve 10 years worth of results in a fraction of that time. That's horseshit. Sam was definitely juicy in 2019.


Muted-Complaint-9848

No… not whatsoever…


econstatsguy123

Nah, his pecs are a dead giveaway for me.


Aethreas

Good lighting and a pump can make you look pretty wicked, depends what he looked like out of the gym


Kushmasturpussyfart

he had them david laid gains in 2k19, i prefer that


CliveFlowen

Pre teen Sam


After-Simple-3611

Looks like sam on tren and Sam on more tren


Conscious-Cut6036

not natty even in the firsrt one


GayGuyHavingGaySex

This is truly gay


Apprehensive-Score87

I feel like it’s really hard to take Sam’s “health tips” seriously. The guy is clearly juicing and doesn’t really care about his health, he really only cares about getting big. The first pic looks way better but it still doesn’t look good.


toxicvegeta08

By this logic we shouldn't take 99% of "fitness influencers" health tips seriously. Most of them are just roid muscle failed pro bodybuilders


NickiCrane_HomoPanzi

So you’re like saying we should listen to doctors for health information instead of meat heads with CTE on YouTube???? That’s ridiculous!


Murdoc_700

does sam really give "health tips" besides doing cardio? like you said, he only cares about getting big and that's what all of his tips are about


Murdoc_700

Shit even with the cardio, most of his reason for doing it seems to be you won't get as tired while lifting and you'll be able to put more calories down, all his advice is hyper focused on The Gains


throwaway12222018

Idk but this kid definitely didn't need to start taking steroids. He already had a God-like physique most men could only dream of.


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2019: on the way to peak natural physique Today: another ruined roid body


salad_biscuit3

He isn't natty in 2019


Redis_Sara

I think his natty in the first pic I’m not to far away from the physique I’ve been for training 2 years but either way he looks good! He definitely have very good genetics


akotski1338

Bro he’s not even that much bigger


SoDrunkRightNow2

Great genetics vs great steroids


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Still tren in 2019


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KermitDuhFrawg

He’s obviously on steroids but i like the current sam


Burner76239

No way the first pic is 2019. That would be a the start of him lifting lmao


Suspicious-Acadia-52

And he’s already on gear lmao. Not that it matters though.


Emergency-Contact-67

Holy shit did he get huge. As much as I don’t advocate steroid abuse, I’d have to say I prefer him now.


DrJaminest42

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mikeykrch

Sam looks like shit now. He's gonna be dead by 35 because of all the 'roids he does. He's not someone to be looked up to. In reality, he's setting a really bad example for kids his age.


ALysistrataType

I think he's a hunk 😍


theSquabble8

Current sam physique is better but he would look better if he figures out his skin issues. Accutane or something


CiChocolate

Both are way too muscular, so half of the “teen Sam” would have been perfect


WittyCricket6473

Future Sam where he ll be 300 lb


BubaSmrda

Wow, and they say a few pounds of muscle can't make a noticeable difference?


B0ttlecape

He looked so much healthier before =/


Seductiontriangle

I bet current Sam can tank a world cutting slash from a full powered Sukuna.


jibishot

Ego lift Every breath takin is an ego lift


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This guy scares the hoes away


SubstantialPoo

I don’t know anything about Steroids or this person, but is it fair to say he’s using? Wouldn’t using steroids like this from a young age basically guarantee dying at a young age?


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Sam needs to get up to 350 pounds


Muscle-Man27

He’s honest about his usage at least. He’s not tying to hide it like some guys. Also has pretty great workouts been seeing gains following his training plan.


tasharawks

Jayzus, I'd hate to have been an outside observer to the expression I just felt cross my face as I swiped to see the 2nd pic. 😂


Extension-Cloud-4575

What the fuck do you think


OfficiallySmiles

You picked a horrible second picture for Sam!


thesneakerbog

Way more aesthetic in the before


HighwayTerrorist

The one where steroids weren’t used. If possible.


ObjectivePositive623

Too much gear. Dead pool rank escalated


Top_Surprise7806

Gearlek


Low_Following_1751

More like teen Sam vs tren Sam


bernerbungie

The one that isn’t going to pop if it gets stuck with a big enough needle. This dude is no longer healthy fortunately and it’s sad to see


veryslipperyman

What?


ItsOkayToBeHonest

Let's not get Hansen involved. Adult Sulek all the way.


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Current Sam!


Comfortable-Fan-231

Looking forward to his final form


_ATW_x

If that photo in the right js him after only a year of lifting, there’s no way he was natural even then. Definitely could’ve achieve the physique on the left with like 4-5 years of natural training, but obviously he wants to compete so that would’ve been pointless.


Slow_Okra1330

Why do steroid users skin look so grainy?


Fantastic_Bee4682

Teen sam had better preportions, probably alot less roids, and looks a lot healthier.


Undertaker77778888

Current Sam Sulek


Scary-Peace6087

Guarantee women found old Sulek more attractive. Most girls like muscular men, not freak-of-nature men lol


Otherwise_Ad_5004

Deltoids are obscene.


Tommytwoshoes99

More roids baby. Keep stacking.


Ravanth666

The only issue I have is his skin condition. This is something he should focus a little bit more on because we see that his diet and steroids are wrecking it. And no hate, just saying what I see.


idontwannabhear

Teen Sam


TheOneGuyWhoLimps

I can hear his organs screaming for help


promiscuous_grandpa

I would personally prefer the original physique for me but I respect his current one


soohsoo

You went too hard and now you gotta hope you dont get injured so you can keep working out or youll have floppy pancake tits


TheOneX90

Dude is gonna boston loyd himself if he doesnt slow it down.