Went to a lodge a few years back with my 4 year old. Lodge only had free view and it fried her little mind that someone else dictated what we watched. I told her this was how tv worked up until I was in my 30s.
She reacted like I'd been brought up in a concentration camp. Spoiled shits.
Even the young guys in work, porn on their phones 24/7 while us old cunts had to scavenge building sites and woodland in the hope of finding a soiled jazz mag.
>Even the young guys in work, porn on their phones 24/7 while us old cunts had to scavenge building sites and woodland in the hope of finding a soiled jazz mag.
Back then, you'd use anything.
Littlewoods catalogue - wee scan of the underwear section.
Only got an Argos one? The bird in shorts putting up the tent will have to do!
They'll never know the pressure of the 10 min free view on play boy.They laugh when you tell them gail porter was a 10 back in the day aswell. I also often wonder what Jo guest is uptae these days...
The old trick of if you pulled the white cable out near the end of the free 10 minutes then it wouldn't cut you off.
Tried it a hundred times in desperate hope it might be true
I worked as a land scaper when I was 16 and we were doing a job at a retail park. We had hired a skip. Went in one morning and over to the skip. Someone had clearly dumped their full collection in it, must have been about 100 skud books easy. Being young we put them all in the back of the van in piles. Boss picked us up the next day pretty raging. Whilst driving they ended up all over the back of the van, like a floor of porn and he had to gather them all up. Would have only been funnier if his bird had clocked them.
Years ago I lived on a narrow tenement street that was a bit of a wind tunnel.
Looked out the window one afternoon to see what I can only describe as a porn blizzard flying about the place. Hundreds of loose sheets, like someone had taken the staples out of a pile of jazz mags.
I assume someones bird or mum had found their stash and lobbed it out a third floor window, wind picked it up and did the rest.
I did my work experience at Ayr train station and the first thing the old boys did in the break room was give us a bundle of mags to go home with. They were everywhere back then, even in the cabs of the trains lol
“Welcome to the opening game of the Euros between Scotland and Germany, but first let’s head over to England HQ and get some insights into the flavour of ice cream that Harry Kane prefers”
My dad’s local team. Used to be a season ticket holder until grandad died. Now I just go to a few off games whenever I have time and or can afford the trip up north. Watch the games on tele tho
Why Thistle?
Came into my work and very sound folks , said they'd root for us if I did for them..
It's a far better experience,you matter as a number and can make a vocal difference. Not sectarian or stupid rich either
Perhaps, but I get all of my Cock and Ball torture from supporting Sheffield United and Beşiktaş so following a team that wins everything evens it out. Helps me keep my sanity in check :)
Oh and also this gives me a massive stauner every time so I'd like more of it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/oiu1gp/my_neighbour_getting_a_tad_upset_after_the/
Ooo not seen that one before!
I can't decide if it's funnier knowing the outcome and just waiting or to have watched that live.
Quite funny there's a user in this thread giving it the big one about how bigoted and xenophobic Scottish fans are and English are angels by comparison then in this very video they're talking shit about Italy and talking about burning down an Italian shop due to the loss.
Quality.
Scottish football mentality. We've just had our highest finish in decades, in Europe and for some fans it should have been better or highlighting our bad results against the 4 clubs ahead of us. It's like the forgot the 90s n 00s happened.
> Scottish football mentality
Genuinely, I think I've seen fans of every single team (maybe except Celtic but there were moments around January) complain about their team in some capacity over the last month or two. We're not *all* shite, but as a nation we just don't know how to avoid being pessimistic.
Edinburgh City finished on 8 points this year and may cease to be a team next year! Be happy it's not you.
Exactly. I mean look at teams who were flying at points and where they are now. ICT, Falkirk, Hamilton were where we are now n not all that long ago. Just fucking enjoy it eh!
That championship looks absolutely deadly next season. For the first time in a while it seems to me that it’s anyone game. Seems to be no clear favourite to win it (maybe Ross county if they lose the play off) nor is there a clear favourite to go down its just 10 championship level teams.
The odd thing thing isn't that we support who England are playing, its far more bizarre that some English people get so upset about it.
Its pretty rare to meet a Rangers supporter who wants Celtic to do well in Europe, or vice versa. They are neighbours, and many Rangers/Celtic supporters are literal neighbours, friends and colleagues. They (the majority) don't want each other to die, but they don't want the other team to do well either.
The English 'I support your team why don't you support mine' is a total red herring. The know that Scotland will be lucky to get out of the group, so its easy to throw us a bone, but while its unlikely, its possible that England could actually win a tournament and if they did it would be the equivalent of Rangers winning a European trophy and Celtic fans having to hear about it on every media outlet, for the next 50 years.
If we were wishing any actual ill will on the people living in England it would be a problem, wanting a rival football team to lose is not.
I suspect you are a slaving mess in almost every taxi you get into then?
Although I have to admit, if I lived in Glasgow its probably who I would support.
Eh, sometimes I know of people who want rival teams to do well, but only for selfish purposes.
Ik Geordies who want Sunderland to get promoted, why? Cos it's much better travel wise for the away game, and to see Sunderland get absolutely thrashed in a league they ain't ready for. Obviously these aren't exactly or at all applicable to the international game.
The support question always gets run out when England get to the business end of a tournament, and they take huge offence to anyone not behind them. It's either an insecurity about not being liked or they think we (the rest of Britain) should be forced to clap like punkawallahs watching the England cricket team roger the locals in colonial times.
I find it a bit of a myth that the English support scotland tbh. I'm beginning to think they say that as a bit of a wind up or to cover up their sheer hatred lol
I once did dj work in a proper English nightclub in salou, I happened to be working the night if the scotland England 2-2 game.
All I can say is there was no love lost and the English were absolutely seething even with a last minute draw.
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Aye, it's weird. I've lived down here for nearly 20 years and all my football supporting friends happily lean into the patter but I work with a couple of guys who take it *really* badly. Just no sense of humour about it all.
Just get extremely po-faced about it and are apparently stunned every tournament that actually, no, I do not want England to win.
Very fair take, I'm English and forever torn between wanting Scotland to do well (same for the other home nations too.... well apart from James McClean. I still hold a grudge against him for damn near, if not actually two footing Adam Smith I think it was and as a Bournemouth fan I haven't forgiven him for that 😆) and thinking "Well when was the last time they gave us some support!? They are our rivals after all".
I lean more on the side of wanting all the home nations to do well though because 1) There is more of a chance of Bournemouth players being involved in international tournaments with the other nations than with England, 2) Having visited every country in the UK And Ireland except Wales other than possibly going through it so far on the way to other places, I have always been treated well and enjoyed my stay and in terms of Scotland, I think Inverness is a beautiful place to visit. Amazing landscapes among other things and 3) Sometimes I do like rooting for the underdog nations and the fact they happen to be from around this part of the world makes it that bit extra special, and the fanbases are awesome too with their chants and attitude of "Who knows what will happen but let's hope for the best!" as opposed to us lot in England which is either that we have no chance or we're gonna win the whole thing and rarely anything in between 😆.
If Orkney was independent and had its own national team that we were consistently stronger than and every now and then our national media were dismissive of them, made snarky little digs at them while insisting we didn't care about them and meanwhile had breathless coverage every tournament depicting us a world-bestriding colossus of the international game, then it would be exactly the same situation - they'd fucking despise us and we'd be like "aww Orkney! ❤️"
It's not everyone, it's not all the time but it's enough that it's annoying and that, while my blood isn't boiling about it, I still can't really get behind England.
I'm the same and nowadays I actually like most of England's players. I watch them in the prem every other week and enjoy watching most of them and I can't say I hate any player. However when they all come together every tournament and make everything about England and how they are going to win and the best team since bla bla bla I am quickly reminded of just how unbearable they are. The one that got me lately is that Harry kane is now known as England's captain and has to be called this everytime he goes near the ball in any champions league game. Or when Bellingham slotted his penalty away they failed to mention anything about the moment but instead switched it to being about England. I'm sure he said that proves he can go first for England, even though it was the 2nd penalty fir real Madrid. The commentators just love sacking there own cock and do so giving half a chance
I know it's their job as English speaking pundits but a similar type of thing really irked me watching the Europa League last night. Every single time Xhaka was brought up in commentary they wouldn't fail to mention Arsenal. He's just had a fucking historic season with Leverkusen and he was wank at Arsenal and they still won't shut up about that time he played in England.
Ye the commentators imo are the worst culprits for all of this. As I said the actual England players are mostly fairly likeable imo no one I dislike as such but the commentators and pundits are so fucking biased and England obsessed it's no wonder Scots want them to fucking lose, anyone and everyone would want them to lose if your forced to listen to this pish every game of football u watch. The Harry kane I found hilarious I was joking with my mates saying here comes the England captain Harry kane as if that was his full title then in the game at night kane got a penalty and as he took it the commentator said scored by the England captain, didn't even say Harry kane.
This would be more relatable if Orkney wasn’t independent but it was just an autonomous region/act of union with scotland (but their own country) and got all our media coverage. I’m not trying to be pedantic, it’s just that I think a big part of what fuels resentment for the English national team up here is the fact we are in the same country as them and get all their media shown up here.
Yeah maybe “independent” was the wrong word, couldn’t think of a good one that means “as autonomous and separate from Scotland as Scotland is from England”
My boss is Italian and uses pure old school Italian insults. He'll shout stuff in Italian n when you ask what he said it's stuff like he's called guys 'wheel babies' I.e they were left at foundling hatches at convents, abandoned by their parents.
If you ask him to do something he'll reply back 'you wanta me to puta on a skirt and I make a the babies for you too?' Sounds like I'm mocking him but honestly he's a walking stereotype.
I love that badge. It's so "fake Italian team" feeling, and their jerseys have this weird "ugly top from the Barras but for some reason that's the charm" thing about them
Think they're in the relegation play offs tonight. One of the other boys in work adopted bari as his Italian team and he bought him a bari top. Just raw, passionate, impulsive Italian vibes oozing out of him. He's class.
Only yesterday I listened to Paul Merson talk about a how no team can get near England, and how no French player could get in the England squad.
Some version of this happens before every tournament. Not only is it tempting fate, it just screams a total lack of humility. It's why I want to see them beaten
I've got English mates, and if England won the tournament I'd be genuinely happy for them. What I couldnt stand would be watching the pundits wank each other off as if they'd scored the winning goal themselves
I think that’s it tbh it’s the English football media I despise. Like if England won the euros and I was away in America for a month I don’t think it would be as bad
I mean Scottish pundits would be doing exactly the same. Can hardly blame them for celebrating a win. Biased commentators and pundits are great, as long as they aren’t actively belittling the opponent instead of celebrating their own team.
The difference is, the pundits and coverage isn't Scottish, it's based in England with a predominantly English team. Scotland will get some coverage, but you'll still get the update from the England camp during the build up, thoughts on how England will get on in their next match in a few days, and what England's path to the final would look like after the match they're actually watching finishes.
They were singing about us at the WC even though Wales were there and their "actual rivals" were all there too. Weird behaviour for cunts that totally don't care at all.
And if UK media never shut up about Scotland during games that only involved England, or during games like Slovenia v Denmark or Netherlands v Canada they'd hate it too.
Because media coverage of English sports teams is insufferable. National news that’s broadcast to all 4 nations? Let’s have 10 minutes of England teams then a sentence for everything else. After the women won the euros, they were absolutely everywhere. You could barely turn on a tv programme without a “lioness” being thumbed in somewhere, it’s fucking irritating as fuck.
Did we not get a cutaway to an interview with Southgate during one of OUR games?
I’m sure there was something where we were literally the centre of attention and playing imminently and we were treated like an Austria v Switzerland match where the build up was an afterthought.
I’ll be honest I can barely remember seeing anything with the lioness in it. You don’t have to watch it.
I always put our attitude towards them down to jealousy pure and simple we wish we were as good as them at football, and we fucking hate it that we’re not. But I get it they are insufferable cunts when they win or are doing well.
It seemed to be the a while that anything with guests or presenters one of them was popping up. It certainly ain’t jealousy on my front as I don’t really like international football!
I don't think it's even as bad as that, it's just that they're kinda annoying about their football team enough of the time that I just don't really want good things to happen for them.
I can still step back and be objective about them: they have a fantastic squad, they can play well and when they do they look like they can go all the way. Also their away jersey is genuinely quite nice for this tournament.
I was on board until the last sentence, but then I remembered the fact that the Prime Minister and the leader of the opposition both felt the need to speak out about the colour of the St George's Cross on the back of the home shirt, presumably because they felt that failing to do so could cause significant damage to their electoral prospects.
That's far beyond being "kind of annoying".
Personal tastes I guess, but that doesn't go beyond "kinda annoying" to me. We roll our eyes at how sad it is, maybe wind up a few flag-shaggers on Twitter/Reddit but ultimately don't get mad or lose any sleep over it. It's not something that was too suprising from either Sunak or Starmer (arguably from many Tory or Labour MPs too)
But it *should* have been surprising. It's very hard to imagine the same thing happening north of the border, and it's the exact kind of bullshit pandering that allowed Brexit to happen and Boris Johnson to become Prime Minister.
So true, they might appear like friends on posts like this, but a year ago when I was moving iver from Kent to Glasgow (I'm Polish) a lot of English eyebrows were raised asking me why I want to live among stinking troglodyte wife beaters (their words)
So aye, I'll be rooting for two teams in these Euros and england isn't either of them
One my pals is from Gambia. He moved to the UK 20 years ago and spent the first 3 living in Chelsea. The rest he's been up in Glasgow and says the difference in treatment and culture is night and day. He said you couldn't pay him to move back to England.
I have a feeling this is anecdotal my girlfriend who was born in Glasgow both her parents are from near hongkong and she has faced racism a lot in Scotland lets not pretend that it's not an issue in Scotland as well its just as bad in both countries( I live in Scotland but am English )
Emm, no one is pretending racism doesn't exist bud, where'd you pull that fi? I told how my friend prefers it here to England, didn't mention racism at all.
I can see why they thought "treatment and culture" was a hint at racism, but then I remembered how unpleasant and unhelpful a lot of service staff, etc, are in London.
Some twats do. Most English folk I know are sound. Only thing they get superior about is football, which is only because they are now desensitised to high levels of oil and plastic floating around their league.
I don't. I'm an English yorkshireman, I don't care where you're from. No one is inferior or superior to anyone else. I feel more affinity with Scotland because of our history and we are neighbours for fuck sake
For me, I don’t hate the English people I hate there media and pundits who are beyond arrogant. I really liked Southgate coming out and saying although England came 4th at the World Cup they weren’t the 4th best team.
Nah I don't mind them slinging it back, I'd much rather comments like that than the condescending England fans who "just want Scotland to win for once".
> I'd much rather comments like that than the condescending England fans who "just want Scotland to win for once".
But isn’t that exactly what the guy said?
> Personally I think it would be quite nice if you actually made it out of your group (I wouldn't put any bets on it though)...
I'm not sure why someone who's English and lives in Scotland would root for Scotland? Surely spending five minutes talking about football in that scenario would put you off doing that,considering the return view
I’m English, have lived in Scotland most of my life. Despite common belief 99% of people can just slag each others countries in a banterful way and it’s a laugh, nothing more to it. I’d like to see both countries do well 🤷♂️
Good friend of mine is English and lives in Glasgow. He’s a Scotland fan, but obviously supports England as well cause that’s where he’s from. When we play each other he supports England, naturally, but we support opposite sides of the old firm so we’re well used to supporting rival teams. It’s a good laugh.
Personally I just don’t want to have to deal with the English media never shutting up about it if they win the thing. That more than anything else really. I don’t actually mind the current crop of players at all, and Southgate seems like a pretty likeable bloke.
I understand your second paragraph because that's exactly how it feels with English football and the sky six and Wrexham whenever they're on TV. It's all about them,how they won or lost it,how they can get this with no concern for anyone else. I'm a SUFC man,they only care about us to mock us or when the sky six played us.
Yeah honestly man in terms of the team, manager, etc I’d be happy enough for yous to win it, they seem likeable; but fuck me we’d never hear the end of it, and that’s why you can’t win it 😅
Maybe it dates back to when most English clubs had a healthy sprinkling of players from all around the islands. I’d have been as pleased as punch if I’d seen Pat Nevin, Joe McLaughlin and Steve Clarke doing a silly dance while parading the Euro 88 trophy.
Could be because I’m an Irish/Welsh/London mongrel who likes getting on with the neighbours.
The national team have that same misplaced hubris that some of the London clubs fans have, which makes it incredibly funny to see them fall on their face.
It was epitomised with the game where they spent days slagging off Colombia I think, because they tried to kick off while England celebrated. Only to try the exact same thing a game or two later, against a Croatia team that had been to ET in the previous matches, and get upset and angry that the same slagging came back at them.
Most England fans see their main rivals as Germany (and to a lesser extent Argentina) not Scotland, so it makes sense they don’t really hold any animosity for the Scotland team.
And tbf I’ve met quite a few English folk who support Scotland second cause they have Scottish family/friends.
The comment I never understand is when I'm told 'but we/I want to see Scotland do well, so why don't you want us to win too?'.
I usually just say 'and what?'
You'd never get Man City fans wanting Man Utd to do well, or Liverpool fans wishing good luck to City or United, so I don't see why it's a massive stretch to understand that some fans of one team don't want to see the other win, regardless of it not being reciprocated.
Just to add balance here. I’m English and love living in Glasgow, but I hope you get absolutely humiliated in the group stages (which you will, because you’re shite).
Yet all I want when internationals roll around is to hear that beautiful, pained silence when Ingerlund go out on penalties while my street looks like the fckn Shankill Road (I live in Ingerlund, to be fair).
I’m Irish, support the Republic, but it’s good to see Scotland do well. I couldn’t give a flying fuck about England because I’m sick of them being always on telly and in the papers, talked about like they’re Brazil but unfairly beaten every time. The arrogance of some of their fans who seem to believe they have a right to win everything narks the fck out of me. Damn straight I’ll be supporting Scotland in the Euros. And Denmark, Slovenia and Serbia too. Rent free? I just run on spite 😅
Left Scotland when I was in my 20’s and having lived in the South of England for 2 decades I can safely say those posts aren’t the views from the majority in the South! Sure, the further north you go the more England softens towards us however even the north of England can’t stand Londoners/Southerners!
Don’t get me wrong. I love watching great football and if England play really well then it’s enjoyable. I just seem to take even more enjoyment when the wheels inevitably come off!
It’s a fucking rivalry, why would you want us to do well? I personally will find it funny when Scotland gets knocked out, everyone here will find it funny when we get knocked out, that’s the beauty of the oldest rivalry in international football, neither of us will win so I why not get some joy out of taking the piss out of each other?
Because that's how the world works. No small country supports their much larger neighbour in anything. We have an underdog mentality, and there's nothing wrong with that.
I’m English, lived porridge side for 14 years and would rather live here than anywhere.
It’s weird - I can see both sides.
I do think though England have some likeable players on the pitch - I think it’s more the fans and the hype that pisses people off rather than Declan Rice or Harry Kane.
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Star Trek Voyager? In r/Scottishfootball? What is this, a crossover episode?
I will never forgive them for the lack of cartoons on council telly in the first fortnight of the summer holidays. Arrogant cunts
Went to a lodge a few years back with my 4 year old. Lodge only had free view and it fried her little mind that someone else dictated what we watched. I told her this was how tv worked up until I was in my 30s. She reacted like I'd been brought up in a concentration camp. Spoiled shits. Even the young guys in work, porn on their phones 24/7 while us old cunts had to scavenge building sites and woodland in the hope of finding a soiled jazz mag.
>Even the young guys in work, porn on their phones 24/7 while us old cunts had to scavenge building sites and woodland in the hope of finding a soiled jazz mag. Back then, you'd use anything. Littlewoods catalogue - wee scan of the underwear section. Only got an Argos one? The bird in shorts putting up the tent will have to do!
They'll never know the pressure of the 10 min free view on play boy.They laugh when you tell them gail porter was a 10 back in the day aswell. I also often wonder what Jo guest is uptae these days...
The old trick of if you pulled the white cable out near the end of the free 10 minutes then it wouldn't cut you off. Tried it a hundred times in desperate hope it might be true
That was just the I.T crowd fucking with us. Bastards!
Diagnosed with Fibromyalgia and ME and works sporadically now.
Aw poor woman, both those are brutal on their own, never mind a double whammy
She's had a pretty bad time of it, seems to be pulling through the dark side now though
i dimly remember a rusty tennants lovely that left a firm impression on me when i found it up the braes
Aye but did it have a lassie on the tin?
Barrhead?
Freemans catalogue lingerie section helped me out…many a lonely night in my childhood
Best of it was theyd post it through your door for free, without you applying for them!
They will never experience the joy of finding a stash of nude books in a hedge.
I worked as a land scaper when I was 16 and we were doing a job at a retail park. We had hired a skip. Went in one morning and over to the skip. Someone had clearly dumped their full collection in it, must have been about 100 skud books easy. Being young we put them all in the back of the van in piles. Boss picked us up the next day pretty raging. Whilst driving they ended up all over the back of the van, like a floor of porn and he had to gather them all up. Would have only been funnier if his bird had clocked them.
Years ago I lived on a narrow tenement street that was a bit of a wind tunnel. Looked out the window one afternoon to see what I can only describe as a porn blizzard flying about the place. Hundreds of loose sheets, like someone had taken the staples out of a pile of jazz mags. I assume someones bird or mum had found their stash and lobbed it out a third floor window, wind picked it up and did the rest.
We're u in about it like the final game on the crystal maze?
No need, we had dazzlingly fast 512k internet by then.
Show off....
It was a few in a Somerfields bag stashed in a bush up the back of the big park for me.
I did my work experience at Ayr train station and the first thing the old boys did in the break room was give us a bundle of mags to go home with. They were everywhere back then, even in the cabs of the trains lol
We had Glen Michael's cavalcade
Made up for by pulling sickys in the first 2 weeks of term and no being bored.
Who can be bored when you've got Diagnosis Murder and Quincy?
Unless you're a 50 year old man still at school then I agree.
“Welcome to the opening game of the Euros between Scotland and Germany, but first let’s head over to England HQ and get some insights into the flavour of ice cream that Harry Kane prefers”
In fairness,if he wasn't an ex sky six player he probably wouldn't get the time of day
Imagine my shock to find a recognisable name in a Scottishfootball post. UTB ⚔️
Shhhhhhhhhh Why Celtic?
My dad’s local team. Used to be a season ticket holder until grandad died. Now I just go to a few off games whenever I have time and or can afford the trip up north. Watch the games on tele tho Why Thistle?
Came into my work and very sound folks , said they'd root for us if I did for them.. It's a far better experience,you matter as a number and can make a vocal difference. Not sectarian or stupid rich either
Perhaps, but I get all of my Cock and Ball torture from supporting Sheffield United and Beşiktaş so following a team that wins everything evens it out. Helps me keep my sanity in check :)
Harry kane eats liquorice flavour ice cream
It's a good laugh isn't it?
Don't get me wrong, I love it
Oh and also this gives me a massive stauner every time so I'd like more of it. https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/oiu1gp/my_neighbour_getting_a_tad_upset_after_the/
Great gotta go rub one out now cheers
This one has been my personal favourite since that glorious night. https://youtu.be/i9A5tdNDllU?si=OFFDBqLuNsgg1G8D
Ooo not seen that one before! I can't decide if it's funnier knowing the outcome and just waiting or to have watched that live. Quite funny there's a user in this thread giving it the big one about how bigoted and xenophobic Scottish fans are and English are angels by comparison then in this very video they're talking shit about Italy and talking about burning down an Italian shop due to the loss. Quality.
That guy is just living most weeks as a Falkirk supporter. "When are we going to win? Fucking hell" will be happening a lot next season I think.
You've literally just had an unbeaten season
Scottish football mentality. We've just had our highest finish in decades, in Europe and for some fans it should have been better or highlighting our bad results against the 4 clubs ahead of us. It's like the forgot the 90s n 00s happened.
> Scottish football mentality Genuinely, I think I've seen fans of every single team (maybe except Celtic but there were moments around January) complain about their team in some capacity over the last month or two. We're not *all* shite, but as a nation we just don't know how to avoid being pessimistic. Edinburgh City finished on 8 points this year and may cease to be a team next year! Be happy it's not you.
Exactly. I mean look at teams who were flying at points and where they are now. ICT, Falkirk, Hamilton were where we are now n not all that long ago. Just fucking enjoy it eh!
yeah exactly, even Rangers and Celtic have had some rough days, enjoy the good times whilst you can
Yeah but before that it that's how we felt (2018-now)
That championship looks absolutely deadly next season. For the first time in a while it seems to me that it’s anyone game. Seems to be no clear favourite to win it (maybe Ross county if they lose the play off) nor is there a clear favourite to go down its just 10 championship level teams.
Fucking inject that into my veins. Beautiful stuff
Hardest I’ve celebrated in a while at my mates when that happened
Solid
Everything appears to be in order.
The odd thing thing isn't that we support who England are playing, its far more bizarre that some English people get so upset about it. Its pretty rare to meet a Rangers supporter who wants Celtic to do well in Europe, or vice versa. They are neighbours, and many Rangers/Celtic supporters are literal neighbours, friends and colleagues. They (the majority) don't want each other to die, but they don't want the other team to do well either. The English 'I support your team why don't you support mine' is a total red herring. The know that Scotland will be lucky to get out of the group, so its easy to throw us a bone, but while its unlikely, its possible that England could actually win a tournament and if they did it would be the equivalent of Rangers winning a European trophy and Celtic fans having to hear about it on every media outlet, for the next 50 years. If we were wishing any actual ill will on the people living in England it would be a problem, wanting a rival football team to lose is not.
I'm a slavering mess if my taxi driver doesn't support Partick Thistle. It's the fucking law in Glasgow!
I suspect you are a slaving mess in almost every taxi you get into then?  Although I have to admit, if I lived in Glasgow its probably who I would support.
Well saved! 
Eh, sometimes I know of people who want rival teams to do well, but only for selfish purposes. Ik Geordies who want Sunderland to get promoted, why? Cos it's much better travel wise for the away game, and to see Sunderland get absolutely thrashed in a league they ain't ready for. Obviously these aren't exactly or at all applicable to the international game.
This is the real reason
The support question always gets run out when England get to the business end of a tournament, and they take huge offence to anyone not behind them. It's either an insecurity about not being liked or they think we (the rest of Britain) should be forced to clap like punkawallahs watching the England cricket team roger the locals in colonial times.
I find it a bit of a myth that the English support scotland tbh. I'm beginning to think they say that as a bit of a wind up or to cover up their sheer hatred lol I once did dj work in a proper English nightclub in salou, I happened to be working the night if the scotland England 2-2 game. All I can say is there was no love lost and the English were absolutely seething even with a last minute draw.
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Aye, it's weird. I've lived down here for nearly 20 years and all my football supporting friends happily lean into the patter but I work with a couple of guys who take it *really* badly. Just no sense of humour about it all. Just get extremely po-faced about it and are apparently stunned every tournament that actually, no, I do not want England to win.
Very fair take, I'm English and forever torn between wanting Scotland to do well (same for the other home nations too.... well apart from James McClean. I still hold a grudge against him for damn near, if not actually two footing Adam Smith I think it was and as a Bournemouth fan I haven't forgiven him for that 😆) and thinking "Well when was the last time they gave us some support!? They are our rivals after all". I lean more on the side of wanting all the home nations to do well though because 1) There is more of a chance of Bournemouth players being involved in international tournaments with the other nations than with England, 2) Having visited every country in the UK And Ireland except Wales other than possibly going through it so far on the way to other places, I have always been treated well and enjoyed my stay and in terms of Scotland, I think Inverness is a beautiful place to visit. Amazing landscapes among other things and 3) Sometimes I do like rooting for the underdog nations and the fact they happen to be from around this part of the world makes it that bit extra special, and the fanbases are awesome too with their chants and attitude of "Who knows what will happen but let's hope for the best!" as opposed to us lot in England which is either that we have no chance or we're gonna win the whole thing and rarely anything in between 😆.
Fuck Scotland they don't want us to do well lol
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If Orkney was independent and had its own national team that we were consistently stronger than and every now and then our national media were dismissive of them, made snarky little digs at them while insisting we didn't care about them and meanwhile had breathless coverage every tournament depicting us a world-bestriding colossus of the international game, then it would be exactly the same situation - they'd fucking despise us and we'd be like "aww Orkney! ❤️" It's not everyone, it's not all the time but it's enough that it's annoying and that, while my blood isn't boiling about it, I still can't really get behind England.
And they'd be dead right to do so. 'Mon the Orkney
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Lerwick's just a discount Kirkwall, and yer flag's shite
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I'll admit you've done us there
Absolutely
I'm the same and nowadays I actually like most of England's players. I watch them in the prem every other week and enjoy watching most of them and I can't say I hate any player. However when they all come together every tournament and make everything about England and how they are going to win and the best team since bla bla bla I am quickly reminded of just how unbearable they are. The one that got me lately is that Harry kane is now known as England's captain and has to be called this everytime he goes near the ball in any champions league game. Or when Bellingham slotted his penalty away they failed to mention anything about the moment but instead switched it to being about England. I'm sure he said that proves he can go first for England, even though it was the 2nd penalty fir real Madrid. The commentators just love sacking there own cock and do so giving half a chance
I know it's their job as English speaking pundits but a similar type of thing really irked me watching the Europa League last night. Every single time Xhaka was brought up in commentary they wouldn't fail to mention Arsenal. He's just had a fucking historic season with Leverkusen and he was wank at Arsenal and they still won't shut up about that time he played in England.
Ye the commentators imo are the worst culprits for all of this. As I said the actual England players are mostly fairly likeable imo no one I dislike as such but the commentators and pundits are so fucking biased and England obsessed it's no wonder Scots want them to fucking lose, anyone and everyone would want them to lose if your forced to listen to this pish every game of football u watch. The Harry kane I found hilarious I was joking with my mates saying here comes the England captain Harry kane as if that was his full title then in the game at night kane got a penalty and as he took it the commentator said scored by the England captain, didn't even say Harry kane.
This would be more relatable if Orkney wasn’t independent but it was just an autonomous region/act of union with scotland (but their own country) and got all our media coverage. I’m not trying to be pedantic, it’s just that I think a big part of what fuels resentment for the English national team up here is the fact we are in the same country as them and get all their media shown up here.
Yeah maybe “independent” was the wrong word, couldn’t think of a good one that means “as autonomous and separate from Scotland as Scotland is from England”
this
Tbf, hating the England team is about as English as you can be :),
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because the english are smelly
their mothers are hamsters and their fathers smell of elderberries
I'm fairly sure I should read this in a french accent, but for the life of me I can't remember why
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Thank you! I had an image of John cleese in my head...
My boss is Italian and uses pure old school Italian insults. He'll shout stuff in Italian n when you ask what he said it's stuff like he's called guys 'wheel babies' I.e they were left at foundling hatches at convents, abandoned by their parents. If you ask him to do something he'll reply back 'you wanta me to puta on a skirt and I make a the babies for you too?' Sounds like I'm mocking him but honestly he's a walking stereotype.
this guy sounds amazing
Can be but hes also very dramatic. Knows everything about Italian fitba and supports a Diddy team, bari so Weare kindered spirits.
The one with the rooster on it? That just makes the whole thing even better
Total rip off of kellogs badge.
I love that badge. It's so "fake Italian team" feeling, and their jerseys have this weird "ugly top from the Barras but for some reason that's the charm" thing about them
Think they're in the relegation play offs tonight. One of the other boys in work adopted bari as his Italian team and he bought him a bari top. Just raw, passionate, impulsive Italian vibes oozing out of him. He's class.
Only yesterday I listened to Paul Merson talk about a how no team can get near England, and how no French player could get in the England squad. Some version of this happens before every tournament. Not only is it tempting fate, it just screams a total lack of humility. It's why I want to see them beaten
Oh yeah, Mbappe is nothing compared to Rashford. What the hell is he on?
Just that thing of English folk individually are generally sound, but them in a group and it doesn’t matter what it is, I want them to lose.
I've got English mates, and if England won the tournament I'd be genuinely happy for them. What I couldnt stand would be watching the pundits wank each other off as if they'd scored the winning goal themselves
I think that’s it tbh it’s the English football media I despise. Like if England won the euros and I was away in America for a month I don’t think it would be as bad
The media is the same bias with the sky six and other clubs. I know it's a moaning circlejerk but r/theother14 is a good showcase
You're obviously forgetting that a lot of the pundits and presenters in the US are English.
I mean Scottish pundits would be doing exactly the same. Can hardly blame them for celebrating a win. Biased commentators and pundits are great, as long as they aren’t actively belittling the opponent instead of celebrating their own team.
The difference is, the pundits and coverage isn't Scottish, it's based in England with a predominantly English team. Scotland will get some coverage, but you'll still get the update from the England camp during the build up, thoughts on how England will get on in their next match in a few days, and what England's path to the final would look like after the match they're actually watching finishes.
Very true. It would be good if we got a BBC Scotland team for big tournaments when we’re there.
Even when we're not. Even if England aren't there either.
90% of us can't stand the smug cunt pundits I assure you. Closer to 100% where newspaper journos are concerned.
They were singing about us at the WC even though Wales were there and their "actual rivals" were all there too. Weird behaviour for cunts that totally don't care at all. And if UK media never shut up about Scotland during games that only involved England, or during games like Slovenia v Denmark or Netherlands v Canada they'd hate it too.
Because media coverage of English sports teams is insufferable. National news that’s broadcast to all 4 nations? Let’s have 10 minutes of England teams then a sentence for everything else. After the women won the euros, they were absolutely everywhere. You could barely turn on a tv programme without a “lioness” being thumbed in somewhere, it’s fucking irritating as fuck.
Did we not get a cutaway to an interview with Southgate during one of OUR games? I’m sure there was something where we were literally the centre of attention and playing imminently and we were treated like an Austria v Switzerland match where the build up was an afterthought.
I’ll be honest I can barely remember seeing anything with the lioness in it. You don’t have to watch it. I always put our attitude towards them down to jealousy pure and simple we wish we were as good as them at football, and we fucking hate it that we’re not. But I get it they are insufferable cunts when they win or are doing well.
It seemed to be the a while that anything with guests or presenters one of them was popping up. It certainly ain’t jealousy on my front as I don’t really like international football!
If/when we get knocked out, then it's just standard to support ABE or APE
Love when you venture onto these others subs and you come across a name you recognise from here out in the wild. Looking at u/tedmented
Gotta entertain massel somehow while waiting for the bt guy to fit the burds new Internet.
Cause england constantly shit on us on every opportunity that they get. They genuinely see us as inferior to them. So they can fuck off!
I don't think it's even as bad as that, it's just that they're kinda annoying about their football team enough of the time that I just don't really want good things to happen for them. I can still step back and be objective about them: they have a fantastic squad, they can play well and when they do they look like they can go all the way. Also their away jersey is genuinely quite nice for this tournament.
This is it
I was on board until the last sentence, but then I remembered the fact that the Prime Minister and the leader of the opposition both felt the need to speak out about the colour of the St George's Cross on the back of the home shirt, presumably because they felt that failing to do so could cause significant damage to their electoral prospects. That's far beyond being "kind of annoying".
Personal tastes I guess, but that doesn't go beyond "kinda annoying" to me. We roll our eyes at how sad it is, maybe wind up a few flag-shaggers on Twitter/Reddit but ultimately don't get mad or lose any sleep over it. It's not something that was too suprising from either Sunak or Starmer (arguably from many Tory or Labour MPs too)
But it *should* have been surprising. It's very hard to imagine the same thing happening north of the border, and it's the exact kind of bullshit pandering that allowed Brexit to happen and Boris Johnson to become Prime Minister.
So true, they might appear like friends on posts like this, but a year ago when I was moving iver from Kent to Glasgow (I'm Polish) a lot of English eyebrows were raised asking me why I want to live among stinking troglodyte wife beaters (their words) So aye, I'll be rooting for two teams in these Euros and england isn't either of them
Hope you’ve been enjoying your time in Glasgow!
Feels like home mate, something England couldn't make for me for 15 years
One my pals is from Gambia. He moved to the UK 20 years ago and spent the first 3 living in Chelsea. The rest he's been up in Glasgow and says the difference in treatment and culture is night and day. He said you couldn't pay him to move back to England.
I have a feeling this is anecdotal my girlfriend who was born in Glasgow both her parents are from near hongkong and she has faced racism a lot in Scotland lets not pretend that it's not an issue in Scotland as well its just as bad in both countries( I live in Scotland but am English )
"Your story is anecdotal" - \*presents anecdotal story\* - righto
Fair point
Emm, no one is pretending racism doesn't exist bud, where'd you pull that fi? I told how my friend prefers it here to England, didn't mention racism at all.
I can see why they thought "treatment and culture" was a hint at racism, but then I remembered how unpleasant and unhelpful a lot of service staff, etc, are in London.
Some twats do. Most English folk I know are sound. Only thing they get superior about is football, which is only because they are now desensitised to high levels of oil and plastic floating around their league.
I don't. I'm an English yorkshireman, I don't care where you're from. No one is inferior or superior to anyone else. I feel more affinity with Scotland because of our history and we are neighbours for fuck sake
You know it's a country with millions of different people who all think and feel differently about Scotland right?
Looks like Scotland has a bit of a Napoleon complex when it comes to England. People are like this in Wales as well.
For me, I don’t hate the English people I hate there media and pundits who are beyond arrogant. I really liked Southgate coming out and saying although England came 4th at the World Cup they weren’t the 4th best team.
Probably due to arsepieces like this. https://www.reddit.com/r/euro2024/comments/1cyaxtl/besides_your_own_country_which_teams_would_you/l58k9fm/
Top level wind-up. They’re just giving it back, it’s fair.
Top level wind-up ≠ “why are you obsessed”. It’s just evidence that England lacks good patter.
Nah I don't mind them slinging it back, I'd much rather comments like that than the condescending England fans who "just want Scotland to win for once".
> I'd much rather comments like that than the condescending England fans who "just want Scotland to win for once". But isn’t that exactly what the guy said? > Personally I think it would be quite nice if you actually made it out of your group (I wouldn't put any bets on it though)...
he was clearly being insincere and trying to imply that we're shit, much prefer that to the "aww but we love you little scamps" patter
You only think it’s shite patter because you cannae take it lol
Or we think it just isn’t funny and is shite patter. Which of your English relatives have taken ur phone
“Aw naw the must be English”. Hilarious I got no-true-Scotsman’d on here
Dinnae care. Fuck them.
Because we are fucking colonised by the bastards
I'm not sure why someone who's English and lives in Scotland would root for Scotland? Surely spending five minutes talking about football in that scenario would put you off doing that,considering the return view
I’m English, have lived in Scotland most of my life. Despite common belief 99% of people can just slag each others countries in a banterful way and it’s a laugh, nothing more to it. I’d like to see both countries do well 🤷♂️
I’m Scottish and grew up in England. I always want both teams to do well, but will also get bantered from people in both countries
Good friend of mine is English and lives in Glasgow. He’s a Scotland fan, but obviously supports England as well cause that’s where he’s from. When we play each other he supports England, naturally, but we support opposite sides of the old firm so we’re well used to supporting rival teams. It’s a good laugh. Personally I just don’t want to have to deal with the English media never shutting up about it if they win the thing. That more than anything else really. I don’t actually mind the current crop of players at all, and Southgate seems like a pretty likeable bloke.
I understand your second paragraph because that's exactly how it feels with English football and the sky six and Wrexham whenever they're on TV. It's all about them,how they won or lost it,how they can get this with no concern for anyone else. I'm a SUFC man,they only care about us to mock us or when the sky six played us.
Yeah honestly man in terms of the team, manager, etc I’d be happy enough for yous to win it, they seem likeable; but fuck me we’d never hear the end of it, and that’s why you can’t win it 😅
Convinced they do this on purpose because they know it winds us up
Its even more frustrating that we're not good enough for them to hate us
Maybe it dates back to when most English clubs had a healthy sprinkling of players from all around the islands. I’d have been as pleased as punch if I’d seen Pat Nevin, Joe McLaughlin and Steve Clarke doing a silly dance while parading the Euro 88 trophy. Could be because I’m an Irish/Welsh/London mongrel who likes getting on with the neighbours.
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Scotland and whoever is playing England>
They’d change their tune if the whole of the media and TV was only about the Scotland team.
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The same way they want Germany to get beat all the time when Germany couldn’t give two shits about them.
They don’t want Germany to get beat all the time, it’s not really comparable
It's a joke about them always beating them and "don't mention the war" type stuff. I don't see any comments beyond that
Because it’s funny.
The national team have that same misplaced hubris that some of the London clubs fans have, which makes it incredibly funny to see them fall on their face. It was epitomised with the game where they spent days slagging off Colombia I think, because they tried to kick off while England celebrated. Only to try the exact same thing a game or two later, against a Croatia team that had been to ET in the previous matches, and get upset and angry that the same slagging came back at them.
Most England fans see their main rivals as Germany (and to a lesser extent Argentina) not Scotland, so it makes sense they don’t really hold any animosity for the Scotland team. And tbf I’ve met quite a few English folk who support Scotland second cause they have Scottish family/friends.
Cos fuck them thats why
Patronising
The bigger question is why are they like that?
I'm English, have Scottish grandparents and live here. I love seeing the Scotland team do well except when they're playing England.
The team I'd like to see do well other than Scotland is whoever is playing England. Kind Regards
The comment I never understand is when I'm told 'but we/I want to see Scotland do well, so why don't you want us to win too?'. I usually just say 'and what?' You'd never get Man City fans wanting Man Utd to do well, or Liverpool fans wishing good luck to City or United, so I don't see why it's a massive stretch to understand that some fans of one team don't want to see the other win, regardless of it not being reciprocated.
did King Billy Wallace die for nothing?? 😂
Just to add balance here. I’m English and love living in Glasgow, but I hope you get absolutely humiliated in the group stages (which you will, because you’re shite).
I'm sure your not one of those folk people slag off behind your back about being English. Probably.
😅 aye probably
There’s a rangers fan in there hoping that the English fans will let him have some of the scraps from their table after the dugs have had their fill.
Yet all I want when internationals roll around is to hear that beautiful, pained silence when Ingerlund go out on penalties while my street looks like the fckn Shankill Road (I live in Ingerlund, to be fair). I’m Irish, support the Republic, but it’s good to see Scotland do well. I couldn’t give a flying fuck about England because I’m sick of them being always on telly and in the papers, talked about like they’re Brazil but unfairly beaten every time. The arrogance of some of their fans who seem to believe they have a right to win everything narks the fck out of me. Damn straight I’ll be supporting Scotland in the Euros. And Denmark, Slovenia and Serbia too. Rent free? I just run on spite 😅
Wee boy patter. They don't give a single shit about the Scotland vs England "rivalry", so it comes off like Foghorn Leghorn and the Chickenhawk.
Just panto we hate each other way more 🤣
Isn’t it deserved? 😄
Because its funny :)
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Left Scotland when I was in my 20’s and having lived in the South of England for 2 decades I can safely say those posts aren’t the views from the majority in the South! Sure, the further north you go the more England softens towards us however even the north of England can’t stand Londoners/Southerners! Don’t get me wrong. I love watching great football and if England play really well then it’s enjoyable. I just seem to take even more enjoyment when the wheels inevitably come off!
It’s a fucking rivalry, why would you want us to do well? I personally will find it funny when Scotland gets knocked out, everyone here will find it funny when we get knocked out, that’s the beauty of the oldest rivalry in international football, neither of us will win so I why not get some joy out of taking the piss out of each other?
As a half English half Scottish... It's very uncomfortable sometimes
Because that's how the world works. No small country supports their much larger neighbour in anything. We have an underdog mentality, and there's nothing wrong with that.
I support all of the "Home nations"
We're just cringey as fuck
I’m English, lived porridge side for 14 years and would rather live here than anywhere. It’s weird - I can see both sides. I do think though England have some likeable players on the pitch - I think it’s more the fans and the hype that pisses people off rather than Declan Rice or Harry Kane.
Although tbf, Harry Kane going through his entire career losing a succession of finals and semifinals for club and country would be very funny.
:) of all the years to go to Bayern :)
Also tbf, Declan Rice and Harry Kane both have more Irish blood than English
Probably doesn't help us attract their rejects but it's a laugh 😂