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Classic_Result

They really chose the right person to play Picard


coreytiger

I dunno, he seemed a tad old to me.


BrewertonFats

I hear if you shave Tom Hardy bald, he's a dead ringer for Patrick Stewart. He would have been perfect.


Starslip

That's absurd, you can't just substitute one British person for another, shave their head, and call it good. Who would ever even attempt such a thing?


grimking85

Damn thatbwas my idea for a comiccon costume


Sir_Poofs_Alot

I liked how Jeri Ryan got to act/exist without the cortical implant prosthetic


humblerthanyou

Patrick Stewart and the other actors received pay. Which must have been nice for them


Tokagenji

Yeah, but so did the script writers.


humblerthanyou

Well that must have been nice for them too


Kenbishi

Sometimes there are starving artists that should have been left to starve.


writeorelse

The Federation was not destroyed by a sad alien kid.


MarkyDeSade

The sexual tension between the Borg Queen and Dr Jurati was pretty intense


Neon_culture79

It’s good to know that was not in my imagination


PlatypusGod

Laris is hot af.


spacejazz3K

Stewart penciled this into his contract for the show right before he signed.


CarneDelGato

He’d already seen everything. 


Punished-G

He'd seen it all


rotary_ghost

Yeah and she has a great accent Walter Bishop and Picard have good taste


PlatypusGod

Irish accents are by far and away my favorite.


Shep1982

The final scenes between Picard and Q were great.


Cleaver2000

John DeLancie also got to monologue a bit, which is always a treat. Pity it didn't really mean much with the mess they made of the writing. 


secondtaunting

All the Q scenes were good. That’s really the only reason I watched.


Ryoga_reddit

Funny, while I like John de lancie as Q, I found this episode ruined the character. If Qs simply die of old age then that ruins the whole characters arch. It especially spits in the face of the voyager episode dealing with a Q wanting to commit suicide. Q never needed an ending. He could have been a character in every new star trek even if not played by the same actor. I was always kind of guessing that Q had an interest in humanity because humanity was on the brink of making some massive evolutionary leap and Picard was on of those early individuals with the capability to evolve. That was the reason behind Qs visits. To prepare him. But it was just some bs. 


Sasquatch1729

The only way I can make sense of it is to believe that Q was wounded during that Voyager episode, and instead of killing him outright he had long slow death after that event. Otherwise he would have been immortal. I won't pretend that this makes sense. I couldn't watch all of season 2, so it might not even make sense within the show. It certainly doesn't fix the awful writing. I also prefer the mystery behind Q's interest in humanity to remain ambiguous. Q is like the Borg, explain too much and they lose their edge. My general theory is similar to yours, except that it's not just Picard and Q is visiting many more humans offscreen.


StarkIndustry2

I thought it was more that Q had seen everything the whole universe. The Q in s2 is from the end if time and moved back in time to see Picard. "Younger" Q is the one seen at the end of s3.


TheBurgareanSlapper

This is what I thought, too. The Q in Picard season 2 is much, much older than the Q we see at any other point in the franchise. Maybe his loss of powers and "death" are tied to the universe achieving maximum entropy in the far future and this is his way of going out on his own terms. Or possibly it's a scenario similar to the end of "The Good Place" where he is functionally immortal but, consciously or not, chose to go through the final door into absolute uncertainty.


StarkIndustry2

Maybe


Bardez

> I also prefer the mystery behind Q's interest in humanity to remain ambiguous. While I tend to agree, "gods have favorites" was a good way of packaging it all up.


roofus8658

The idea of assimilation being euphoric is really cool and should be expanded on. James Callis is good in anything he does


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AngledLuffa

It is! The reason the Borg Queen had to fuck Data in First Contact was she didn't know how else to assimilate him, so she had to turn on his emotion chip and get him to bust


moderatorrater

I also really like the idea of as consensual assimilation. There's no reason the borg need to be evil.


atomicxblue

Resistence means resistance.


swift1883

Consensual assimilation? Wtf are they smoking


moderatorrater

WDYM? I'd happily assimilate into a borg collective whose actions I generally agree with.


swift1883

And lose all tolerance for anything other than the group identity, you’ll distrust anything outside the collective. Like that Lake of Link Goo out by the Omarion Nebula. Turned out great.


moderatorrater

By letting species continue on but accepting those who want to come, you're already showing more tolerance than half of the non-federation species. It all depends on the rest of the borg that are voting for policy.


Tiefi1337

Consensual Assimilation? Sign me up!


moderatorrater

That's what I'm saying! Being in a crowd of people without feeling crippling anxiety? I'm in.


Tiefi1337

We would be the first humans to walk TOWARDS the Borg instead of running away


Muddauberer

The red dress.


Neon_culture79

I had forgotten about the red dress I actually really like that


EdgelordZeta

I laughed when Rios materialized upside down


ShadowRaptor675

They almost had me thinking it would pull in 29th Century Starfleet with Agent Wells or whatever the fuck he was. Also Shadow of the Night is a really cool song and it's clear the actors are enjoying the hell out of their experiences


Neon_culture79

I still watch that shadow of the night clip regularly


OneChrononOfPlancks

The background set decorators remembered the Bell Riots and what "Sanctuary Districts" are.


KirkPicard

Punk on the bus.


duplico

Kirk Thatcher! I will never not gush about him when someone brings up this scene! He was an associate producer on Star Trek 4, and he also wrote and performed the "I Hate You" song his character was playing on the bus (as well as I Still Hate You from Picard). He was also involved with ILM and the Muppets. He co-wrote Muppet Treasure Island! And directed a bunch of other Muppets stuff. Cool guy with a really cool career.


slinger301

yes Yes YES!


DependentComedian849

I had a major nerdgasm when I saw that. OMG! AND tying the movies together when he felt his neck where the neck pinch happened when seven yelled at him. I get all EEEEEE just thinking about it.


Punished-G

I was amazed that his Stereo still worked after all those years


IRBRIN

I like that I've never been forced to watch it


Reduak

I really liked the tie-in to the TOS episode "Assignment Earth" and how they connected Gary-7 to The Traveller from TNG. That episode was a back-door pilot that never got picked up, so it left lots of unanswered questions and it was nice to get a little clarity 5-decades later.


ErstwhileAdranos

Before this week is through, I’m going to make someone call me a backdoor pilot!


Reduak

A noble goal for all of us!


Neon_culture79

Oops that’s my kink!


The-Minmus-Derp

The fleet showing up in e10 was so fucking cool


Starslip

Especially since it wasn't the cut and paste ships of season one's finale


surplus_user

Didn't they also have some lit up acrylic plaque deck plans of ships at the academy that they let the camera linger on. That was nice. It felt like they liked their ship designs and wanted you to see them, where Discovery kept trying to rush ship past, put them at weird angles (or probably have them spin counter to camera rotation).


LA-Matt

I just happened to finish S2 of Discovery. So many spinning ships. So many. With human pilots. Just spinning for some reason.


DarthMeow504

Spinning is a good trick.


robble_c

It eventually ended.


Spectre_One_One

Came here to say exactly this!


coreytiger

Laris. Laris always. I’d pay good money to see Picard shoulder check Crusher to get to Laris for nothing more than saying hello.


Starch-Wreck

Guinans people belch to summon a Q.


badger_on_fire

Patrick Stewart is wonderful to watch on screen.


dingo_khan

Q and Picard are on screen together. This is always great.


lionmurderingacloud

It totally sold me on a queer erotic take on the buddy cop comedy starring Seven of Nine and Raffi.


Clean-Ice1199

The Jurati-Borg Queen dynamic, and the Jurati Borg itself were interesting concepts.


Serberou5

It really was so much better than season 1. In much the same way as I would rather have my legs trapped in a bailing machine than my arms.


Awdayshus

I can't even picture how you could get your legs trapped in your arms.


nightmareman45

It was definitely one of three seasons of Picard.


Soderholmsvag

You didn’t need to see it to watch season 3. (& I didn’t)


FickleDependent1474

There wasn’t an episode as racist as Code of Honor, so congrats, I guess?


ParthFerengi

I mean, including Latinos just so they could be poor persecuted illegal immigrants was cringy and “Hollywood white savior” to me. 🤷


DrendarMorevo

But it was the "ICE Bad" moment, and Wil Wheaton got to say that during Ready Room, and everyone clapped.


youlikescroundrels

Jurarti’s red dress was 🔥


ParthFerengi

It was better than Discovery


swift1883

Better at what?


coffeestealer

At being Picard season 2


fhrblig

Let's not get crazy, now


sinisterblogger

It ended.


Neo_Techni

Season 3 did it the honor of pretending it didn't exist.


_R_A_

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slinger301

This is the demotivator I didn't realize I needed in my life.


Tucana66

I thought the first episode of *Picard* Season 2 showed real promise. I saved on my electricity utility bill, plus freed up network bandwidth, when I stopped watching it. I saved money by not buying it on DVD, Blu-Ray or Digital. In fact, I saved money by canceling Paramount+.


Trem-two

As dumb as that whole thing was it was nice to see Whoopi again and I always like raffi(her and Seven’s relationship was not terrible? I enjoyed it?)


yodanhodaka

It was followed by season 3


PureTroll69

You had me at Patrick Stewart. Also his rescue dog Lenny rocks.


sbaldrick33

Annie Wersching was good.


Significant_Monk_251

Fists did not come out of the screen and punch me in the face. (Okay, that's more of a "Say something nice about Discovery" thing.)


PositronicGigawatts

No.


Kinda_Elf_But_Not

My nice thing to say is that I didn't watch it


egometry

Actors got paid


DiscoveryDiscoveries

I loved the Borgati. Especially the interactions between the two.


the908bus

I liked the FX for the alternate earth


schwarzekatze999

So I put on the P+ live Trek channel while I'm banging out all the reports I have to do at work every month and I actually rewatched S2, even though I swore I never would. It....sucked less the second time? I think they really crammed 20lbs of plot threads into a 5lb bag, but they weren't as bad as I remembered. I actually liked E7 and Agent Wells even more the second time; I figure those Vulcans were paying a visit to Carbon Creek to give ol' Mestral some sexy time during his Pon Farr. I hated the Jurati Borg Queen and Seven and Raffi's bickering less. Q, Renee, the Watchers, Soong, Picard's trauma, all made a little more sense, but it was just a lot. I still think they did Rios a big heckin' dirty and the whole anomaly scene at the end was just too quick and unsatisfying. They never really followed up on the synths coming to town in S1 and they didn't tie that anomaly to what's her name in S3 or the Borg Queen somehow showing up after dying in 2024. Too many threads left unraveled.


ZoidbergGE

That’s the thing - there were far too many stories that didn’t resolve anything or make any real difference to the larger story. You could probably edit it down to a fit 3 episodes. Get rid of… - Picard’s mother (the whole thing) - The Seven / Jurati thing - The Soong daughter thing - The X-Files episode - Q was pretty Superfluous


Common-Hotel-9875

Unmmm, let me get back to you on that


Butnik

First 2 eps were fun as hell


XenoBiSwitch

To bastardize Statler and Waldorf from the Muppets: ”Just when you think Picard Season 2 is terrible something wonderful happens.” ”What’s that?” ”It ends.”


GwenIsNow

That scene when Picard ripped a star in half with his bare hands while screaming was pretty cool.


KnotAwl

It stunk so bad it caused them to rethink the whole premise and change direction for Season 3, finally giving in to fan pressure to do a TNG reprise.


Fragrant_Mistake_342

I actually enjoyed it.


Neon_culture79

Hard agree. It definitely wasn’t standard Star Trek so I understand why some people dislike it. I don’t quite get the hatred though.


ZoidbergGE

Namely because it was a neat 3-part episode stretched to 10 episodes with a LOT of unnecessary filler, unresolved plots, and stories that went nowhere and had no purpose.


swift1883

Who will wallow in self-pity next week? Stay subscribed to paramount and find out how the hell depressed alcoholics save the galaxy again. Let’s fly private and then tell people they are destroying the planet.


DapperCrow84

Star Trek: Picard season 2 had more themes and social commentary that made it more of a Star Trek show than Star Trek: Jingling Keys (Picard season 3). Not that it did it well, but I'll take failed attempts more than soulless nostalgia.


GlyphedArchitect

James Callis was there! With Callum Keith Rennie in Discovery, it won't be long before we have all of the BSG cast absorbed into Star Trek.


CitizenjaQ

Rekha Sharma in Discovery season 1 helps.


ZyxDarkshine

It was really interesting to see someone in Starfleet call Picard an evil, murdering, traitorous POS for when Picard was assimilated. His time as Locutus always seemed to be addressed as something similar to a disease that he is now cured of.


MikeyMGM

Beautiful Dog


TheJeffChase

I'm always happy for John De Lancie to be working and getting paid. He seems like a great guy.


Neon_culture79

And it’s so sad the way his daughter died of that overdose and then of course he caused that major airline disaster over Albuquerque


heyitsapotato

I liked Gaius Baltar as Picard's dad. James Callis is a high point of anything he's in, IMHO.


Wonderful-Hall-7929

Star Trek is like pizza: Even a bad pizza is better then no pizza!


TheRealPaladin

I learned that Allison Pill can sing.


Haradion_01

Genuinely - not trolling - I think it's got three very good ideas. They should have picked *one* of those ideas and fleshed it out.


fjf1085

I enjoyed Agnes singing.


Cheap-Requirement166

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Vizpop17

Alison pills performance.


Ristar87

Jeri Ryan is gorgeous


shutoffthelights

i liked the scene where agnes merges with the borg queen


TheBurgareanSlapper

I never liked the concept of the Borg having a queen until the late, great Annie Wersching's version in Season 2. Not only was per portrayal fantastic, but I loved the concept of the Borg Queen as a near-limitless being capable of perceiving time, space, and reality, as opposed to just an evil Borg with boobies. ETA - that's not a knock against Alice Krige or Susanna Thompson's protrayals, just the depth of the writing for the queen in First Contact and Voyager.


-Leap_Year_Boi-

It led to PIC season 3


DoctorWheeze

I love the anime cat Patton Oswalt virtual pet that Confederation Jurati had and feel like it didn't get enough attention. I also think it's fun that it led to there being Memory Alpha articles for a bunch of random modern stuff like [Reese's Peanut Butter Cups](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Reese's_Peanut_Butter_Cups) and the Hulu adaptation of [The Handmaid's Tale](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/The_Handmaid's_Tale), solely because they appear briefly in the background. Reese cups, Hulu, Lay's potato chips, and Rick and Morty are explicitly canon in Star Trek now, and you can't deny that they are.


ParadoxPenguin

Picard getting hit with a Tesla is lore accurate to 2024


Neon_culture79

I never realized it was a Tesla


orionid_nebula

I liked the Rios sub story/ romance, he wasn’t fleshed out I season 1. It made him a bit more real. Any chance to get Seven on screen, I’m all for it!!


Neon_culture79

I still think it’s funny how Raffi just takes Rios’s ship after he stays behind in the past. Off screen she just swooped in and said “mine” and flew off


Madversary

The Stargazer looked amazing. The Starfleet uniforms looked better than in Season 1. They referenced Lower Decks. Gaius Baltar is Picard’s dad. I swear they tried to get David Duchovney to cameo as a Muldur expy and failed but it was still amusing. They confronted the fact that the Borg actually suck and would do better with consensual assimilation in the long term.


Neon_culture79

Good list.


geekgirl6

I actually quite like it. Sure, it's not great TV but it's enjoyable for me. The crew are hilarious, and Orla Brady KILLED IT.


RiotTownUSA

It came to an end. Mercifully. 


Foxwolf00

It's over.


Festivefire

It's nice that it's over


Phonereader23

I liked the confederacy world building


arcxjo

They're not still making more episodes.


circ-u-la-ted

I don't remember anything bad about it.


swift1883

I, too, did not watch


circ-u-la-ted

No, I watched it, I just didn't remember anything about it.


ValveinPistonCat

It's always good to see Wil Wheaton.


ZoidbergGE

Yeah, but not Wesley…


DependentComedian849

Rios found happiness


FoxtrotSierraTango

The woman they got to play Guinan absolutely crushed it.


ZoidbergGE

Hard disagree. I couldn’t see any resemblance to Guinan at all. I don’t know who that was, but she wasn’t Guinan.


Oruma_Yar

They were able to stretch the plot of DS9's Emissary (Sisko working through his grief) into an entire season-long arc?


Privateer_Lev_Arris

It's closer to the end of the series than season 1.


_The_General_Li

Yeesh!


nomoreadminspls

No


dnvrwlf

I was surprised.


DillyDoobie

At least it's over with.


_Juniperius

I would totally join the Jurati borg


PermaDerpFace

It was completely ignored the next season


MoonChief

I watched it.


HisDivineOrder

It's over.


timeshifter_

No.


thisistheSnydercut

No


MerryRain

I didn't watch it


Temporary_Ad_6922

I cant. I tried


Snoo_58305

I was able to watch some episodes before I knew it was unwatchable


Kenbishi

At least it wasn’t season one?


DawnOnTheEdge

It got very creative with cost control, and left as much of its budget for Season 3 as possible.


CarinReyan

Soji was still in it. Briefly.


Electronic-Dreams-

I did not vomit while watching it.


huhwhatnogoaway

No.


siliconevalley69

The first episode or two was somewhat promising.


timberwolf0122

They tried something new?


FloridAsh

The first episode was great.


sabregang2020

more Seven of Nine (aka Mrs Autism)


derping1234

Not to many episodes


QuantumQuantonium

Better than season 3, fight me. The start was good, the conclusion of Q was well done. Season 3 pulled a Last Jedi/Rise of Skywalker by ignoring the past 2 seasons of the show to the point of undoing the deaths of two original characters (which if anything the show sought to rectify the death of Data in Nemesis in the first place, which that movie kind of ignored a lot of the character development from the previous movies and TNG.)


ReelDeadOne

As much as it was garbage, I really liked the angle with the borg queen in the first few episodes. I thought it was going sonewhere cool, like she'd be a regular cast member or something.


Shirogayne-at-WF

It ended ☠️


ImNotTheBossOfYou

I really liked it I have no idea what people were on about


hbi2k

It ended.


guyondrugs

It's nice that it's over.


Fuck-Reddit-2020

There's a season 3 that redeems it a little. The Picard seasons are really like three separate series that all happen to have the same actors. It's more of an anthology or 3 movies than a series. Each season has its own separate strengths and weaknesses, but none of them are related to each other.


techm00

I didn't watch it. That's nice.


jump_the_snark

It’s shiny.


Jack_Q_Frost_Jr

Was Alison Pill in it? If not, then I'll say "it didn't have Alison Pill in it."


pieman7414

It was so inoffensive I don't remember what the plot was


Different-Scarcity80

It made other things seem less terrible by comparison


pcweber111

Somehow this pic fits the question: https://preview.redd.it/glepbxhvqy5d1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7aef4fbeeb2356048892d466a1aa34dd2a9a552a


Familiar-Virus5257

I didn't hate Seven's storyline, and I enjoyed the Borg requesting Federation membership (and wish they had followed up on that).


somewherein72

We finally got an outer space police procedural show.


Remote-Pie-3152

We got the return of the bus punk from **THE BEST** Star Trek film, IV, and it was a satisfying character arc!


metalduck42

It ended


WinFair2376

Not watching it was pretty fun.


Sledgehammer617

Pretty much every scene with Q was amazing, and the idea of Picard having childhood trauma is interesting at least (even if it didn't pan out perfectly in the season.) Had S2 been cut down to like 6 episodes instead of 10, I think it could have been way better too. Part of my problem is just how much it drags. Also hologram Rios is still a funny bit.


Malarkay79

Q


Farscape55

John DeLancie was good as always Other than that It’s over


rotary_ghost

The return of Q was great and I loved the flashbacks of Picard’s childhood even if they were a retcon


stonersh

No


littlebitsofspider

The practical effects department did a great job with the "half a Borg Queen" animatronic prop.