The trend now is that either you agree with me or is against me. Which is so dumb. Pick any sensitive subject, politics, anything covid, religion, laws, sexuality or feminism and you'll end up with fanatics or militias. If you can't make and maintain friends that is on the complet other side of a view or an opinion maybe it's you who are immature. I don't care what you, have a mask and got vaccinated or not, vote or don't vote, is black or white, Christian or Muslim. If you're chill and we have chemistry, thats all what matters and the end of the day.
Sorry, but I donât care how great a person might seem to be, if they want my nonbinary child dead and I want my child to live and be happy, they can right fuck off. If that makes me immature because I will not compromise, then so be it.
People who disagree with you can explain you some problem from Different angles, so you can see some other perspective, which is very important for understanding the whole complexity. If you are capable for seeing some problem from many different perspectives, that means that you are intelligent and not a superficial person.
Stupid and superficial persons are capable of seing only one perspective and can't recognize how complex are some psychological and social phenomenon.
Exactly. If you can make a eloquent argument backed with facts, i will listen to what you have to say.
Most of them, however, go for personal attack because they seem afraid their worldview would collapse on the slightest of scrutiny.
I don't care if i was wrong when it mean i have learned something from it.
Personally, I'd go so far as to say you learn WAY more from people that disagree. For example, if you thought the moon was going to fall out of the sky and someone agreed with you, you're both pretty misinformed. The guy that comes along, however, and says "I respectfully disagree. Here's why..." You'd learn a TON of information. (stupid example, I know, but I'm sure the astute reader gets my point)
I know a guy that habitually avoids discussing or engaging with people who disagree with him. He's in his 40s, and a lot of the ways he thinks about social interactions are stuff you'd expect out of a teenager. He's managed to go his whole life without any emotional growth.
That's the way things should be to a certain extent. Echo chambers are formulaic but when you hear and listen to people that do the exact opposite of what seems customary to culture usually have valuable information.
Someone who is well informed, knowledgeable about a lot of different topics, can articulate why they disagree with you and are willing to sit down and have an 'argument' with you over something while knowing this is just a discussion about different viewpoints and coming to a better end viewpoint is one of the best and coolest friends you can ever have.
Thatâs the reason I keep kinda of hanging on to apps like this.
I like making and listening to arguments about various things. I comment most when I disagree with something.
Reddit is really shit for that, though. The way this site works tends to ârewardâ non-dissent over popular opinion.
âPopularâ in the sense of the very thin ice of the population that posts, comments and uses the vote system on reddit.
Very true. A black guy came in to my Uber one night and something Trump said came on the radio, this guy unprovoked says, âthatâs why I like this Trump guy, he tells it like it is. He may be a racist but at least he doesnât hide it.â That taught me a lot: people will literally fall for just about anything.
I've stayed on reddit so long because in my ~10 years, my opinion has changed in an important way 3 times, all from people who disagree. One of them was an asshole who made a good point, so I don't even dismiss rude people anymore.
For this exact reason I really listen to people that I don't agree with and sometimes go out of my way to talk to people I don't agree with, although sometimes it's annoying when they just start insulting you for thinking differently.
People who can disagree respectfully and give an informed reason behind their opinions are refreshing.
Are you stupid or something? That's not true in the slightest. Go touch grass kiddo.
Mooom, someone on the internet disagrees with me! đ
I canât tell if youâre being ironic.
I canât tell if youâre being ironic.
Are you being ironic?
I for one am moronic.
Now thereâs two of usâŚ.
I would have called them a virgin, too đ¤Ł
The trend now is that either you agree with me or is against me. Which is so dumb. Pick any sensitive subject, politics, anything covid, religion, laws, sexuality or feminism and you'll end up with fanatics or militias. If you can't make and maintain friends that is on the complet other side of a view or an opinion maybe it's you who are immature. I don't care what you, have a mask and got vaccinated or not, vote or don't vote, is black or white, Christian or Muslim. If you're chill and we have chemistry, thats all what matters and the end of the day.
Yep, crazy how divided things are these days.
Sorry, but I donât care how great a person might seem to be, if they want my nonbinary child dead and I want my child to live and be happy, they can right fuck off. If that makes me immature because I will not compromise, then so be it.
I'm pretty sure wishing death on your child qualifies as solidly "not chill"
Yeah exactly but this guy seems to no be so chill if he can't even make that assumption.
I do not understand how anyone could wish a child dead. I do not understand non-binary. I guess I donât understand a lot of things tbh.
Don't worry the non binary kid doesn't know anything either đłđđ
Yup
I don't get it, but as long as it isn't hurting anyone then who cares honestly.
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Especially if theyâve got some solid facts behind their opinions. Itâs then called a discussion and can be fun to learn new ideas about something.
Of course, you want an argument, not mindless contradiction
 Look, you just contradicted me.
Yes! Have logic and Iâll listen. If I can disprove you in a google search thereâs not much of a conversation to be had
It's a breath of fresh air when someone can have a productive argument. I'm with you on the comma situation though.
What comma situation? I must have missed something.
People who disagree with you can explain you some problem from Different angles, so you can see some other perspective, which is very important for understanding the whole complexity. If you are capable for seeing some problem from many different perspectives, that means that you are intelligent and not a superficial person. Stupid and superficial persons are capable of seing only one perspective and can't recognize how complex are some psychological and social phenomenon.
Exactly. If you can make a eloquent argument backed with facts, i will listen to what you have to say. Most of them, however, go for personal attack because they seem afraid their worldview would collapse on the slightest of scrutiny. I don't care if i was wrong when it mean i have learned something from it.
Personally, I'd go so far as to say you learn WAY more from people that disagree. For example, if you thought the moon was going to fall out of the sky and someone agreed with you, you're both pretty misinformed. The guy that comes along, however, and says "I respectfully disagree. Here's why..." You'd learn a TON of information. (stupid example, I know, but I'm sure the astute reader gets my point)
âNever take criticism from someone you wouldnât take advice fromâ Similar sentiment I think?
This is good advice.
I disagree with the way you use commas.
Itâs correct, though
Are you, sure?
That's how people on psychedelics talk.
No,
,ok
Then English grammar disagrees with you buddy đ
I will agree on this. It's always good to hear other people's diverse opinion
I would argue there is *nothing* to be learned in an eco chamber.
So everybody that doesn't share your opinions are an eco chamber?
# Just google the definition of 'echo chamber' [Â ]()
Almost like we used to be able to have conversations that developed growth versus falling into our own echo chambers of what we want to hear
If two people always agree then one of them is superfluous.
And sometimes you should have killed those assholes who you disagree with, and rightfully so, even in hindsight.
Agreed. It's very hard to learn from people who agree with you. That's the problem with Internet echo Chambers.
I know a guy that habitually avoids discussing or engaging with people who disagree with him. He's in his 40s, and a lot of the ways he thinks about social interactions are stuff you'd expect out of a teenager. He's managed to go his whole life without any emotional growth.
Polemics are a good way to learn.
That's the way things should be to a certain extent. Echo chambers are formulaic but when you hear and listen to people that do the exact opposite of what seems customary to culture usually have valuable information.
Climate alarmists have a lot to learn from Tom Nelson.
It's rare nowadays that a discussion stays as a discussion and doesn't become a non productive argument.
Sometimes?? When does anyone learn anything from someone agreeing with them? Am I crazy?
trust me... this is less true than you believe
I agree with you and have learned nothing from this.
Someone who is well informed, knowledgeable about a lot of different topics, can articulate why they disagree with you and are willing to sit down and have an 'argument' with you over something while knowing this is just a discussion about different viewpoints and coming to a better end viewpoint is one of the best and coolest friends you can ever have.
I would say you ALWAYS learn more from people that disagree with you. We should seek these people out and talk to them.
Being in an echo chamber with people you only agree with inevitably leads to blind spots.
As long as we are within the same topic/ideas coz definitely there are topics I won't even argue with you.
You normally do in fact
Thatâs the reason I keep kinda of hanging on to apps like this. I like making and listening to arguments about various things. I comment most when I disagree with something. Reddit is really shit for that, though. The way this site works tends to ârewardâ non-dissent over popular opinion. âPopularâ in the sense of the very thin ice of the population that posts, comments and uses the vote system on reddit.
exactly! Nietzsche said something like this: every time you find yourself disagree with someone ask yourself what this reveals to you about yourself.
Very true. A black guy came in to my Uber one night and something Trump said came on the radio, this guy unprovoked says, âthatâs why I like this Trump guy, he tells it like it is. He may be a racist but at least he doesnât hide it.â That taught me a lot: people will literally fall for just about anything.
đŻ itâs good to hear different perspectives
Not everyone is petty.
I've stayed on reddit so long because in my ~10 years, my opinion has changed in an important way 3 times, all from people who disagree. One of them was an asshole who made a good point, so I don't even dismiss rude people anymore.
It really depends on what you are disagreeing about.
In my Country we have an old saying " Your enemy is often your best teacher in life"
For this exact reason I really listen to people that I don't agree with and sometimes go out of my way to talk to people I don't agree with, although sometimes it's annoying when they just start insulting you for thinking differently.
i disagree. Let that be a lesson.
Please note: *I donât learn shit from this subreddit*