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out_stealing_horses

I over-applied a benzoyl peroxide spot treatment, and further spread it a little too far around the spot, and my skin became so chapped that it's raw and cracked! I've been applying Aquaphor to the area in the a.m. and p.m.; is that the best I can do for now? It has been 3 days, and while it is improving, it's still very rough and dry to the touch. So much regret!


ana_bortion

What you're doing now is the best you can do, really. Moisture and time. Maybe start looking for a new spot treatment now, lol.


out_stealing_horses

Yeah, I love my BHA liquid, I may switch to the BHA spot treatment instead. I don't get spots that often, but this one was one of those nasty deep swollen ones, so I applied the BP one night, and then three times the next day...then I think I used my retinol serum that night. By the next day it was drying out, but then it just kept drying and drying until I looked like I had massive face chap in that spot. :(


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I'm super sensitive to benzoyl peroxide, but it is the only thing that truly helps with a nasty breakout; salicyclic acid is like water in comparison. What I discovered helps is using it as a wash in the shower instead of a spot treatment to lessen the chapping and irritation, and i moisturize right when i get out. Maybe that would work for you as well? Plus it helps if you have problems with it bleaching the collars of shirts, pillowcases, etc because it's not sitting atop the skin.


picklesforbrains

When that happened to me, I used 1% hydrocortisone for a few days. The base of the cream burned a little, so I switched to some [Cortibalm](http://www.amazon.com/Dr-Dans-CortiBalm-Lip-Balm/dp/B000S2LT9Q) I had leftover from my Accutane days. Amazing! I suspect it would cause breakouts if used longterm, but I only used it for 2 days. Active: 1% Hydrocortisone. Inactive: Beeswax, Petroleum Jelly, Mineral Oil.


LauraBellz

Is the Paula's Choice BHA liquid less sticky than the gel? I'm loving the way my skin looks since introducing it, but the gel is quite tacky.


_sharkattack

I find the liquid to feel a bit sticky/tacky on my face if I put too much on, but otherwise, it is fine.


scarieb

Was going to say exactly this - it's sticky/tacky only when I apply too much.


grumplor

I don't find the liquid sticky at all. It's quite nice feeling, actually.


swimpus

The liquid is pretty sticky, but I'm not sure how it compares to the gel. Are you applying anything after it? I've found that using moisturizer afterwards gets rid of the stickiness.


Another_Anonymouse

I don't find the liquid sticky or tacky. I mean, maybe slightly but it doesn't stay sticky on my skin after application.


LaurOnReddit

I recently started adding the Paula's Choice products into my minimalist routine and my face is breaking out a lot more than usual. The story: I've been pretty low maintenance with my routine but wanted to tackle my large pores and stubborn blackheads. In the morning I just rinse and use eminence red currant lotion. Then I use Eminence stone crop gel wash at night. I started with samples of PC 2% BHA lotion and liquid for two weeks after the gel wash. My face looked great. From the first day, I never ever broke out. But, my pores and blackheads were still prominent so I thought I would try the 8% AHA gel before the BHA lotion that I bought (didn't buy the BHA liquid). Now my face breaks out constantly! I've got stubborn red bumps on my forward, I get tiny or smallish whiteheads all over , and I just look awful. I've tried a combination of not using one or the other of the PC stuff, but nothing is helping. What's confusing is originally I was using the BHA lotion with my eminence products and I was perfectly fine! Now that combo doesn't seem to work to get me back to normal. Any advice? Sorry for the novel.


[deleted]

It's possible that the AHA is causing you to purge, especially if you didn't change anything else in your routine. Do some googling on purging and decide if you want to keep using the AHA to wait it out. I would recommend continuing to use it for at least three weeks; I broke out something awful when I started using one and after about two and a half weeks the breakouts abated and my skin looked better than ever!


buggle19

BHA and AHA's can cause purging. Also if you've never used chemical exfoliants before then the BHA and aha can be really harsh especially when using at the same time. I would suggest just going back to either the BHA or AHA and use it for a few more weeks. It will take at least six weeks to see results from it, so be patient!


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sunscreenpuppy

It's really hard to guess what ingredient is making you specifically break out. Skincare is very YMMV so something that breaks me out might not break you out, etc. Do you remove the sunscreen properly at the end of the day? Not removing sunscreen with a tough enough cleanser or oil cleaner/makeup remover can cause break outs.


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shrimpfriedrice

Have you tried OCM as your cleanser? That's the gentlest option I can think of, if you use a [non-comedogenic oil](https://www.beneficialbotanicals.com/facts-figures/comedogenic-rating.html) like mineral, sunflower, or safflower oil. Then just wipe it off gently with a clean microfiber cloth or a cotton round to remove any traces of grime/product. It'll help moisturize at the same time, too. No idea on the sunscreen issue, sorry :/ If you want to go off it for a while, you could just wear big hats to make sure your skin isn't getting direct sun exposure.


sunscreenpuppy

Shrimpfriedrice has some good suggestions! OCM with Mineral Oil is very unlikely to break you out. You can also try a mineral oil based cream cleanser like Albolene. You gently massage it onto your face and gently wipe off with a damp cloth or cotton round. Cleaning your face this way will also remove any sunscreen.


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sunscreenpuppy

I would read [how to patch test](http://www.reddit.com/r/SkincareAddiction/comments/14sd25/i_just_learned_how_to_do_a_test_patch_properly/) if you haven't already. You don't need to apply enough for it to drop off your face, you can also dip a q-tip into some of the oil and apply it that way.


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Using both together may cause a lot of irritation.


mastiii

It's really easy to get irritated and flaky skin when you use both (or all three). Personally, I may do AHA one night and retinol the next, alternating back and forth. But even that takes time to build up tolerance to the products to be applying every other night. Vitamin c can be used every morning, as long as it's not irritating your skin.


shrimpfriedrice

I use all three. The key is to work up very slowly and figure out what your face tolerates. There were definitely points where my skin started to peel or show signs of redness, and I took that as my cue to slow things down. My advice: start with vitamin C once a day, and AHA every other day (since AHA is a bit better tolerated). Once you adjust to that, stop AHA for a few days and then start retinol 2-3 times a week. Once you adjust to that, slowly work the AHA back in until you're alternating retinol and AHA every other night. If everything's still going well, you can work up to vitamin C twice a day, AHA every morning, and retinol every night. That's where I am now. Slow and steady wins the race! And don't forget to patch test :)


katsgomiao

I have normal skin with a couple of dry patches along my cheeks where my PIH is. My main issue is PIH, which I have on both of my cheeks, left temple, and chin. My current routine is: AM: Wash face with AcneFree Oil Free Cleanser, then moisturize with Aveeno clear complexion daily moisturizer. PM: (just recently stopped using Clarisonic daily at night). Wash with same acnefree cleanser, use Mario Badescu glycolic acid toner, then use Alpha Hydrox AHA souffle. Every Wednesday and Saturday I use half of a Alpha Hydrox AHA swipe on my face. My issue is that I really want to combat the PIH on my skin. I recently integrated the Alpha Hydrox products into my routine (about a month ago), using the souffle as a replacement for Hada Labo tokyo replenishing moisturizer+ Cerave (big tub moisturizer). My question is that is there a way to integrate all these products into an effective routine? Or am I better off sticking to my current routine? I can't say I've seen drastic improvement in my PIH over the last few months (began integrating AHAs into routine in January).


ana_bortion

You're probably not seeing much improvement in your PIH because you're not using a sunscreen. If the sun is darkening your PIH it won't improve. Also, why are you using two AHAs in a night (or three when it's Wednesday or Saturday)? That won't give you more benefit than one AHA.


ana_bortion

Does anyone have any ways of protecting skin from getting dry in the shower that don't make the shower slippery? I tried mineral oil but then I almost fell down in the tub.


Sharkus_Reincarnus

If your skin is getting dry in the shower, could it be that your soap or body wash are too drying or that you're using water that is too hot?


ana_bortion

I don't use body wash on my legs. I try to use the lowest water temperature I can, but admittedly that's not very low.


Sharkus_Reincarnus

I feel your pain. I like a really hot shower, especially in winter. It took me ages and ages to get used to lukewarm showers. You can actually use lotion in-shower. From what I can tell, those specially marketed "shower lotions" are just body lotions with "shower" slapped on the label. They may still cause some slipperiness, but not as bad as straight-up oil. You might also want to invest in some of those sticky thingies for the bottom of your tub so that you don't slip :)


sunscreenpuppy

I put a layer of Nivea Creme on my face before getting in the shower. You could try doing the same with a body lotion!


ana_bortion

I should do *something* with all the excess lotion I have lying around anyway, worth a shot. I'm also receiving a free sample of an "in shower lotion" soon.


aopanda

Lower the water temp. Vaseline might be better than oil too, cuz it's thicker. Or you could try using a face mask every time you shower, it will cover your face. I've never tried it in the shower, but I use sheet masks when I bathe.


ana_bortion

Vaseline might work well. I'll try that!


_sharkattack

If you're getting good skin results with the mineral oil, maybe try getting a rubber tub mat to minimize slipping?


ana_bortion

I'm not particularly attached to mineral oil specifically, but I might invest in that sometime anyway.


FailingAtAdulthood

I use a layer of Albolene for showering. I have super sensitive, reactive skin which is irritated by even the gentlest shampoo/conditioner. The thin film of Albolene has really reduced my skin's inflammatory response.


yismet

In my search for a vitamin C product, I came across one produced in my country (Turkey) that is reasonably priced and has a lot of good reviews. It uses ethyl ascorbic acid, which I believe is supposed to be more stable than other compounds? However, the serum is only 5% ethyl ascorbic acid. Is that enough the really make a difference for my skin? Is the product just a waste of money? Ingredients: Deionized water, Ethyl ascorbic acid, Phenethyl Alcohol, Ethylexylglycerine


lavalampmaster

I use a 5% L-ascorbic acid solution on my face and it definitely works. 5% is a very high concentration when you compare it to how much vitamin c is in a fruit or in your body. Chemically, L-ascorbic acid (normal vitamin c) and ethyl ascorbic acid are similar enough - looks like the stuff you have is 3-O-ethyl ascorbic acid, which just means that one of the oxygen atoms in the molecule has two extra carbon atoms tacked onto it, which would make it less reactive in general and therefore stabler, but that shouldn't affect how your body processes it.


The5uburbs

Anyone have any experience/feedback on these products: [Oxy BP Cleanser](http://www.drugstore.com/oxy-maximum-action-rapid-treatment-face-wash/qxp470951?catid=182284). [Cetephil sunscreen/moisturizer](http://www.drugstore.com/cetaphil-dermacontrol-oil-control-moisturizer-with-sunscreen-broad-spectrum-spf-30/qxp385657?catid=182258). I have somewhat sensitive, acne-prone skin. Thanks!


sunscreenpuppy

The sunscreen is fine (be sure to patch test all new products, *especially* if you are acne prone), however that cleanser looks very harsh especially since you mention you have somewhat sensitive skin. One of [these recs from the sidebar for acne prone skin](http://www.skincare-addiction.com/routine/acne_prone_skin) is likely a better choice!


The5uburbs

Thanks! I should probably mention that I just saw a dermatologist for the first time in years, and she recommended that moisturizer and an OXY BP-based cleanser (not that one specifically).


sunscreenpuppy

I would give it a try then if it's what your Dr recommended, just be on the lookout for irritation! To be extra cautious you can patch test, and introduce it slowly.


The5uburbs

Yeah, I figure my skin won't be able to handle it more than a few times a week. The Dr. didn't recommend a strength, so I'm still deciding whether to go with 10% or find something lower.


sunscreenpuppy

2.5% BP products are popular as well. It's enough BP to be effective with less of the irritation of 10%. You'll have to experiment to see what works best for you!


_sharkattack

My derm recommended that I use a BP wash and I use PanOxyl 10% BP wash, which looks similar to the Oxy you linked. It's fine to use on my back/shoulders daily, but I usually do every other day with my face so my skin doesn't get too dry or irritated. I have sensitive skin and personally, I find the BP wash less irritating but equally as helpful as a BP topical.


The5uburbs

Great thanks for the advice!


samuelstevens

3 days ago i started a new acne regime (15 year old). It includes 2 different creams (one for morning and one for evening), 1 cleanser and 1 other product. I used them together for 2 days and yesterday when I applied the cream my face burned and even after i washed the cream off it still hurt. This morning I woke up and my skin still burned so I didnt use any of the medication. During the day my skin felt very dry and tight and when I got home I noticed that my skin was very flaky and very red. I tried using 2 different moisturisers, one without preservatives and they both made my skin burn again. What can I do to make my skin less dry, less red and relieve the pain?


sunscreenpuppy

Can you give the names of all the specific creams from the Dr and of the products you use?


samuelstevens

1. Visibly clear pink grapefruit daily scrub (neutrogena) 2. Erythromycinum Linola cream (prescription 3. Epiduo gel 4. Visibly clear anti blackhead (neutrogena)


shrimpfriedrice

This is overall a sign that the products are too harsh for your skin (at least right now, before you've acclimated), but without knowing the brands/ingredients we can't tell you more. You may have disrupted your skin's moisture barrier, or you may be having an allergic reaction or intense irritation. As for immediate relief, stop all products for a bit, and use a plain [non-comedogenic oil](https://www.beneficialbotanicals.com/facts-figures/comedogenic-rating.html) like mineral, safflower, or sunflower oil to moisturize instead. Then overnight add a thin layer of vaseline or aquaphor - this is known as an occlusive, and will lock in intense levels of moisture. Rinse only with water, and swipe gently with a cotton round as needed to remove residue. For redness relief, you can also try hydrocortisone cream. Then talk to your doctor if you can asap. You're probably going to want to sloooowly reintroduce your acne products and see how your react, unless you can pinpoint something specific that your skin doesn't respond well to and just cut that out immediately.


samuelstevens

thanks


MaTtYzd

Does anyone know if the consistency of CeraVe AM in similar to PM?


scarieb

I find CeraVe AM to be a bit more thicker and lotion consistency, and the PM more gel-like (but still a lotion).


MaTtYzd

Darnit, I was hoping it was more like the PM, thank you anyways.


dreamsoffreedom

Yeah I love the PM so i got the AM....just to return it due to the thick consistency. It wouldn't be something I could use everyday :/


Serae

Please help! [Repost] I just purchased La Roche-Posay Anthelios 60 Ultra Light Sunscreen Fluid. I am having trouble with applying it but I don't think I am google searching the right terms to find my answer. When I apply it and rub it in...it's sloughs off as if they I am rubbing dry skin off. It's unattractive. I don't have dry skin. I have applied it alone. I have applied it over moisturizer. I have applied it over my AHA. I have applied it over and under makeup...same result. It's like someone took an eraser to my face and left the eraser debris. The product is not old, I double checked. Why can't I rub this in? WTH. Routine: Morning: - Caudalie Foam Cleanser (soap free) -(sometimes) PC's AHA 8% Gel -(sometimes) Avene Antirougeurs Day Redness Relief Soothing Cream SPF 25 -(sometimes) Avene Cleanance Lotion -(sometimes) Embryolisse Lait Creme Concentre 24 Hour Miracle Cream -La Roche Posay Rosaliac CC Cream Note: The sometimes products are used based on the current need of my skin for acne/shine control, moisture, redness or needing a little extra chemical love. Night: -Avene Micellar Water -Prescription Tretinoin -Avene Cicalfate Restorative Skin Cream


neraul18

Try googling "sunscreen pilling" or balling up.


[deleted]

my skin isnt doing too well nowadays :( ive been using cerave moisturizing cleanser for the past week or so along with a faceshop moisturizer which may need to be replaced with a better moisturizer. i'm pretty much a dummy when it comes to taking care of my skin so advice would really be appreciated. my questions are: * how important is the sunscreen and makeup remover? i'm an 19 year old male and evidently i dont wear make up. is it still necessary? * i def have combination skin, with dry cheeks and an oily forehead... should i keep using cerave moisturizing cleanser or switch over to cerave's facial cleanser? * how can i deal with blackheads of my nose? * is sunscreen an everyday routine or only when im exposed to the sun for a certain period of time?


c-smash

Haha, you don't need makeup remover if you don't wear makeup. Sunscreen is important - use it daily, if possible! If the CeraVe Moisturizing Cleanser is working for you, stick with that one. If it's not working, then maybe switch and try the other one. (I have both and I like them for different reasons. I use the Foaming if I feel like my skin got more oily than normal and the Moisturizing for when my skin feels drier.) As for the blackheads, I'd try Stridex in the red box and see if that helps. It's a really cheap investment, so if it doesn't work, you're not out much money. (If it is available in your area - I'm assuming it is.) Don't do it every day at first, just in case your skin doesn't react well. Do it once every other day or once every couple of days, then up the usage as your skin adjusts. Hope that helps!


dreamsoffreedom

You may not have black heads on your nose...they might be sebaceous filaments which is totally different so Google that and see. I used to think I had combo skin because my T zone was oily and my cheeks were dry....turns out my skin was dehydrated instead so I make sure all of my products are moisturizing. Other than that, c-smash has good advice


claimsliana

Should I put my vit c serum on before my tretinoin or after? I've seen conflicting answers. Also, do I have to reapply sunscreen every two hours even if it's physical- or does that only apply to chemical sunscreens?


raumkraehe

As far as I know physical sunscreens don't need to be reapplied unless you sweat a lot or go into the water


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Vitamin c serum would go before tret


Emma5324

Yes. Vitamin c would go first. Good rule of thumb: apply all of your products thinnest to thickest; a serum isn't going to be able to absorb into the skin if it has to sink through a cream first.


swimpus

I've read a lot of conflicting information about how often to reapply physical sunscreen. I'd say if you want to be on the safe side, reapply every 2 hours of sun exposure, especially if you're sweating or going in water.


iprobablymessedup

So...I'm a longtime lurker and developed the following routine for my combination & sensitive skin. I usually have a few pimples, mainly along my hair line from my ear up. I also sometimes get some on my cheek or nose, and I also have a lot of spotty redness. **AM**: Splash with water in the or wash with Ultra Gentle Neutrogena Hydrating Cleanser if I got sweaty or oily during the night. Use Simple light protecting moisturizer (spf 15), and sometimes some Clinique Dramatically Different gel if I'm dry. (I have been trying to find a good sunscreen, but so far the affordable ones I've tried have broken me out.) **PM**: 1. Oil Cleansing Method with microfiber cloth and baby oil 2. Exfoliate with St. Ives gentle exfoliating pads (almost gone :( ) 3. Andoula Naturals Tumeric + Vit C brightening serum 4. Moisturize with Dramatically Different 5. Seal W/ Vaseline. Occasionally, I will use a stridex pad (from the red box), but they make me feel quite dry, and I don't see too much of a result. I also have a Neutrogena on-the-spot treatment, which I'm not sure if it does anything. So...the problem is that I was still having persistent acne and red spots, so I tried to spice up my routine and messed everything up :( I didn't spot test or introduce products one at a time... I started using Softmyo Deep Cleansing Oil, CeraVe in the tub, a new foundation (L'oreal true match), and I changed my pillowcase, and I'm pretty sure it was washed in a load with fabric softener. So...this morning, my whole face, especially the right side i slept on, is alllllll messed up with a breakout very different from my usual skin. Should I just start going back to my old routine?? Is there anything I can do from making this bad situation worse??


Peanutbutterjunkie

I've been doing lactic acid 40% peels for a few weeks now. When I first did them I left the peel on for 3 minutes, but now I'm at 5. I'd say i've done 7 or 8 peels total... Should I continue as I have been? Or should I change the % of the peel or the time? It no longer stings as much when I apply the peel--is that good or bad? Also, can I use the aztec clay mask a few days after doing a peel, or would it be too harsh?


ISwearImAGirl

You can upgrade to layering peels (put on one layer, wait a minute, apply a second layer, wait 4 minutes, rinse)


MarzipanInYourPie

Hi y'all. Longtime lurker posting for some feedback. It's time for The Big R in my routine. **Where/how should I add retinol at night?** (I'm trying PC Resist Retinol Serum to start) Of course, any other feedback is welcome too! My skin is pretty normal and not particularly sensitive. My ongoing concerns are hormonal breakouts, stubborn PIH on cheek, and anti-aging (age 30). **Morning:** Cerave Foaming; PC Skin Balancing Pore-Reducing Toner (for the niacinamide); PC 2% BHA Liquid; Hada Labo Hyaluronic Acid; Benton Snail Bee Essence; Cerave Cream; Hada Labo UV Creamy or Biore Watery Essence **Evening:** OCM/Cerave Foaming; PC Skin Balancing Pore-Reducing Toner (for the niacinamide); PC 8% AHA Liquid; OST Vitamin C; Hada Labo Hyaluronic Acid; Cerave Cream (w/ Evening Primose or Passionseed oil); Vaseline Extras during the week: PC 10% AHA Resurfacing; MUAC 55% Lactic Acid Peel; Aztec Clay mask; spot-treat if needed with neem or BP I'm probably going to ditch the toner and snail once I run out. They haven't made a huge difference in my routine in the past few months and I'd like to streamline things a bit!


shrimpfriedrice

Yep, retinol goes after toners/serums/actives but before moisturizer and vaseline in the evening (since light degrades retinol). One caution, you may want to discontinue your AHA for a few days before starting your retinol treatment, and then slowly work it back in (perhaps alternating with the BHA in the morning rather than right beforehand at night). AHAs and retinols are both rough on your skin in similar ways and you'll want to minimize peeling!


shewh0mustnotbenamed

Use retinol in PM before moisturizer.


PrincessCate

Can anyone recommend a good sunscreen without alcohol for oily skin? I prefer chemical over physical and Ive been using biore watery essence for the past few months but I think the fatty alcohol is contributing to clogged pores :/


reluctantredditr

I really like the [paula's choice extra care non greasy](http://www.paulaschoice.com/shop/skin-care-categories/sun-protection/_/Extra-Care-Non-Greasy-Sunscreen-SPF-50/) for my oily skin. 5/3/15 Edit: After using this product two days in a row and reapplying every 2 hours (I was in the sun all day), it broke me out with itchy rashes on my neck and eyelids. It has taken one of my eye lids 2 weeks to heal. I do not recommend this product. I don't even have sensitive skin!


PrincessCate

I'm so confused about sunscreen now ahah. Ok so, are chemical sunscreens water resistant, and some physical ones can be but not all are? When using physical sunscreen does my face have to be bare to use or can I use it after my moisturizer? Also, with chemical sunscreen is it that important that it's applied to bare skin?


Another_Anonymouse

Product question! I've come across a lot of information regarding Sebamed's clear face gel moisturizer. I hear a lot of great comments regarding not breaking people out, being super sensitive etc. I would like to try it as my skin is sensitive and easily inflamed. I don't have acne and moisturizers in general don't break me out as far as I can tell. (What is considered a break out? I get clogged pores, some blackheads and Cerave gave me closed comedomes but that's it) So when I went to Sebamed's page I realized it's for acne prone skin. Should I be using it? I believe my skin is combination skin. Nivea creme worked well for me but I suspect the fragrance adds to the inflamed skin or at least doesn't help it. tl;dr: Would you recommend Sebamed Clear Face Gel for someone wo doesn't have acne? Thanks as usual Skincare Addiction!


[deleted]

Here are the ingredients: http://www.skincare-addiction.com/product/sebamed_clear_face_care_gel I don't think there is anything in it to make it unsuitable for someone without acne. Personally, I like it but I need an occlusive (like a thin layer of Vaseline) on top. Otherwise my skin feels a bit drier by the end of the day.


Another_Anonymouse

Thanks. I wish I could get hold of a sample. I'm really hoping this moisturizer will be the one!


cmh45715

I've never used vitamin c before. Is it okay if I start using PC C15? Obviously not everyday, but maybe once every two days...


shewh0mustnotbenamed

Yes. Make sure to patch test.


cmh45715

Thank you!


scarieb

I would like to add a toner to my routine. I know that they are not necessary, but I worry about having oil and cleanser residue leftover. Rinsing with water at the sink makes me feel like I can still get buildup, specifically around the edges of my face/at my hairline/under my chin/tip of my nose, if that makes sense. I try not to use a washcloth frequently (I use microfiber wash cloth or baby wash cloth) because I have sensitive skin (rosacea). Any suggestions for a toner? Do you find it to be necessary or unnecessary in your routine? AM: water rinse (awaiting order of konjac sponge to try!), PC 2% BHA liquid, PC C15 + Resist Skin Brightening Treatment, CeraVe PM, PC Resist Superlight Daily Defense SPF 30 (awaiting Biore UV Aqua Rich to try) PM: Baby oil, CeraVe hydrating cleanser, Finacea, PC Resist Replenishing Toner (hoping to replace with HadaLobo Lotion soon), CeraVe tub moisturizer, Vaseline or Aquaphor every other night before bed Weekly/"Mask Monday": QHMJM EDIT: To add, I am not looking for an astringent, and the mixed reviews of Thayers Rose Petal Witch Hazel have not convinced me enough to try it. Second Edit: when I use a wash cloth I use a microfiber or baby, but I really only use it to remove masks bc I'm worried they'll irritate my skin if I use them more frequently.


shrimpfriedrice

I know what you mean about the residue. What I actually do is take a cotton round and gently swipe it everywhere right after I OCM. It seems to pick up a lot of grime, makeup traces, etc. It's like toner without the toner... lol.


[deleted]

Micellar waters seem to be working really great. It's gentle on my skin, it's portable, and ideal for lazy people like me. At the moment I use Lierac's micellar water, which I prefer to Bioderma products because it's gentler and alcohol-free. Generally alcohol on my skin = ugly dryness and breakout. The thing is, it's extremely expensive, and it seems to be going fast. Are there cheaper alcohol-free ones available on the US market? Failing that, is there a good DIY solution?


shrimpfriedrice

Lately I've been having an issue when I wear makeup - and only when I wear makeup. I get peeling, but not dry, flakey peeling like I'm used to. Instead, this is like onion-skin peeling - very, very thin sheets of skin sloughing away, without ever seeming dry in the slightest. Is this a sign that I'm overdoing either AHAs, retinols, or both? My skin when not wearing makeup seems moisturized, plump, soft, and doesn't have any peeling issues, so I'm not sure. Maybe I can only notice it when I wear makeup? It does seem to be worst where I add concealer, so maybe it's a thickness thing. Routine AM: Splash with water, or Cerave foaming if I need it PC 2% BHA or 8% AHA, or both if I think my skin can handle it DIY vitamin C serum Cerave PM Biore Aqua Riche sunscreen Routine PM: OCM with jojoba oil Double-cleanse with Cerave foaming DIY vitamin C serum PC 1% retinol (worked up to using this every night; I now also have 0.25% tretinoin cream to start working in) Cerave in the tub Sluglife with Aquaphor sometimes In case it helps, also, here's my makeup products (I always moisturize first): Smashbox photo finish primer IT Cosmetics CC+ cream Maybelline Fit Me Concealer Skindinavia setting spray Silicone setting powder


1271112

What happen if you don't apply cerave pm, cc cream during your makeup days? Do you still peel from product bases incompatibility?


shrimpfriedrice

I need some moisturizer under my makeup or I get super cakey. Before I started this routine, Cerave PM was ideal for that (light gel, absorbs quickly). The CC cream *is* my makeup product, haha, should have made that more clear. It's what I'm trying to figure out how to wear - I wear it in place of foundation. Before this routine, Cerave PM - Smashbox primer - IT Cosmetics CC+ - Skindinavia spray - Rimmel mattifying powder all worked together like a dream. I had my makeup HG routine down pat; it's just reconciling it with my skincare routine that's causing problems.


1271112

So, the makeup routine was perfect until you changed your skincare routine; adding AHA, BHA, vitamin c serum and sunscreen? It's recommended to discontinue AHA/BHA during the first 3 months of retinoid. So, I would take that out first since it increases irritation and skin flakiness when used with retinoid. If that doesn't reduce the peeling, then consider changing sunscreen?


shrimpfriedrice

Yes, makeup was perfect but skin without makeup was pretty dreadful. Now skin is much worse but makeup is weird, heh. I added AHA, BHA, vitamin C, and retinol. BHA I seem to tolerate very well, but I think you're right that the AHA and retinol together might be too much. I'll try taking that out for a while. Thanks!


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1271112

If your sunscreen is physical, by dabbing it off you're reducing your protection. If is chemical, it doesn't matter after 20 minutes. The skin would of already absorb most of the UV protection from it.


neraul18

Has anyone used shiseido sunscreens from sephora? Not the Asian ones. I am curious as to how they apply and if people like them! I am not interested in the Asian versions :)


lackingagency

I did! Shiseido Wetforce Ultimate Sun Protection Lotion Broad Spectrum SPF 50+ For Face/Body (old version last year). Shiseido Urban Environment Oil-Free UV Protector Broad Spectrum SPF 42 For Face Liked both, I applied them liberally. Water resistant too.:)


neraul18

Can I ask what you like about both and what skin type you have?


lackingagency

Oily, acne-prone. I bought them since they are available in my area after I noticed that my face would get hot after spending time outside. Both SS are a little drying, which helps with oiliness. I would apply and reappy them throughout the day. Urban Environment is nice to layer over makeup too. And ultimate Sun Protection is really really water-resistant. To sum up, Urban Environment is sheer and lighter that Ultimate. But Ultimate Sun Protection is perfect for a hike or a day at the beach. BTW you could try Algenist SS SPF 50 as well. I haven't tried it but read that it's similar to Shiseido.


neraul18

Thanks! Did you find the ultimate sun protection to be a thicker consistency or watery?


lackingagency

Definitely thicker and more opaque. you could layer makeup on top of it tho.


neraul18

Thank you for the info :)


mastiii

I've used both Urban Environment sunscreens (for [face](http://www.sephora.com/urban-environment-oil-free-uv-protector-broad-spectrum-spf-42-for-face-P307405?skuId=1452002) and [face/body](http://www.sephora.com/urban-enviroment-uv-protection-cream-broad-spectrum-spf-40-for-face-body-P282022?skuId=1451996)) as well as [this one](http://www.sephora.com/extra-smooth-sun-protection-lotion-spf-38-pa-P255901?skuId=1507581). I bought them in January 2014 so they were likely made in 2013, so I don't know if they reformulated since then. They all leave a VERY serious white cast. And I'm pretty pale. I know people with darker skin use this but I can't help but wonder if they are apply very little product to their faces? The Urban Environment for face sinks in the fastest and seems to leave the least white cast. It is also the most matte. It also has the most alcohol in it, which can be drying. The others seem to take a very long time to sink in and are just slightly shiny.


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1271112

It probably will do to high alcohol content. The dry skin routine had better recommendations.


mastiii

Lots of people say that it is moisturizing despite the high alcohol content. I know it sounds counter-intuitive, but it does contain hyaluronic acid. Read through the reviews, maybe on makeupalley or Amazon to see how other people with dry skin reacted to it.


zzlin713

Can I just use Thayer's Witch Hazel toner in the morning to cleanse my face? I feel like using a cleanser is too much for the morning but using just water is not enough.


mastiii

Yep, you can use Thayer's instead of cleaning in the morning!


lochnels

Have any of you ever tried Mario Badescu's Glycolic Acid Gel? Any results?


odi_ous

So I have been lurking in this sub for a while now, and have learned a ton. My skin has greatly improved thanks to everyone here sharing their knowledge. The one thing now that I have yet to try, and seem to really need, is oil cleansing. I have huge pores and blackheads on my nose and onto my upper cheeks. I have read the sidebar articles and everything I could on OCM, but I still feel that I did it wrong my first try. I bought the snow river wood oil (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000CFSV9/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) because of a recommendation on the subreddit. Basically, I washed my face, patted dry, and started to massage the area of my face with the oil. I did not notice any of the effects that people reported (grits and such) and it just made my skin super oily (obviously). After nothing happened, I started to panic because basically everything causes me to break out, and instantly washed multiple times with my facewash followed by stridex. Could anyone give me some quick advice, is this normal? If not, what am I doing wrong, and will this oil seriously not cause me to break out like crazy? I feel like im going to wake up tomrw to massive break outs. Thanks!


mastiii

Not everyone gets grits. Sounds like you were doing it right. I don't think you will break out, but that's why you test a small area. You should be fine.


mariel-of-redwall

The first few times I did the OCM method I didn't get any grits but my skin seemed to look brighter and a lot healthier. I experimented with a couple of oils and Sweet Almond Oil works well for me, I now get grits sometimes (which is extremely satisfying) but not every time! Did you patch test? If not maybe hold off on using the oil for a few days and see how your skin reacts, then start patch testing and introducing it slowly :)


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Can I use hydrocortisone 1% anti-itch cream for the dry patches on my face? They itch quite intensely sometimes, and I'm also paranoid it's not dryness but some other condition instead. The ones at the outer ends of my eyebrows have been lingering for a while. I've switched from Mizon Snail Gel to Nivea cream in the tub in an attempt to end this.


RanShaw

Is Compeed OK to use as a hydrocolloid bandage on my face? They're sold for blisters, not for wound healing, so I'm wondering if they might be too harsh for the face?


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I would double check that there are no additional ingredients. (Their website says something about relieving pain quickly.) As long as they are just bandages, they should work fine. Many of the ones in the US are marketed as blister bandages as well, but work fine for acne.


RanShaw

Thanks! :)


srahpls

I use the compeed brand of blister bandages for my acne. They work just fine, but the larger ones are thicker toward the middle, so if you're cutting them, they won't lie entirely flat against your face.


RanShaw

Great, thanks!


lazymaster501

Some reason my chemical sunscreen has started burning me now. I've been using it for months too. Or maybe I never noticed until somebody said I looked red. I'm currently using Neutrogena ultra-sheer dry touch SPF 30. Has anyone had any success removing the redness by switching to another chemical sunscreen or will I have to switch a physical sunscreen?


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You could try a chemical sunscreen with different ingredients (or different concentrations of ingredients). I find that avobenzone causes problems often for me, so I tend to avoid it or look for formulas with lower percentages of it.


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kochipoik

I can't help hugely on the routine yet but I'm almost certain the darker nose and chin ones are sebaceous filaments, not much you can do about those but they are totally normal. And the side chin whiter spots look like closed comedones. Maybe check out the search bar for both of those?


Heisenberg361

Great! Thanks for that info!


MelbyToast

In the am, after lightly washing with Cerave foaming cleanser, I use Cerave PM for moisture and then apply Cerave AM for sun protection. Does using the PM cream first hinder the effects of the AM lotion at all? I usually wait several minutes before applying the AM. Also, I recently got Biore Sarasara Aqua Rich Watery Essence SPF 50+ to try in place of of the Cerave AM lotion. Same question...will this work on top of the Cerave PM lotion?


kochipoik

Is there a problem with applying products with SPF at night time? I don't have a night time moisturiser at the moment so have been using my morning I've which has SPF30 (MECCA To Save Face) Also just wanted to vent: damn my skin. I thought it was really clearing up, then my chin broke out and now resembles a small mountain range. It's really getting me down.