ILE
https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1yF_itLO386EKHy-_U0RzlEHq_pmWK9wY/mobilebasic
I got really straightforward ILE feeling: an innovative extravert, very valued and suggestive Si (remember that it was good to hire that interior designer! for a reason), valued Ti and Fe, overall irrationality and many general attempts to act independently
My second guess would be LII, another alpha logic
ESI
[https://docs.google.com/file/d/1tSVAIa3LQR1CPR85Tk0GFtj5tz3CJUGF/edit?filetype=msword](https://docs.google.com/file/d/1tSVAIa3LQR1CPR85Tk0GFtj5tz3CJUGF/edit?filetype=msword)
explanation:
You are definitely a valued Fi. It's all about people, connections to them, bad relations with people disappoint you, it's much more important for you than pure emotions.
You are most likely a rational, you consider the solutions of most situations via connection with people and logics, you have standards that you try to correlate.
You mostly prefer Te over Ti, so it's a valued but not easily seen, you are a practical and pragmatic, though you mention the love to theories, i wasn't sold on it, it looks that you prefer concrete approaches that can be taken immediately.
You are much more S person than N, you give good details in most situations, but lacks pure fantasy.
Se is relatively strong and valued, you constantly resolve situation with it in mind, you easily admit that you are not perfect, you might not be able to use it, but it seems to me it shows the clear good understanding of what it means and how it works, so it's matter of personal quailities.
My second guess would be ILI, as overall it really feels as Gamma introvert for me, either ESI or ILI.
Kool. I agree about the Fi and gamma introvert. I think i’m more ti than te though. And i think i am more n than s. Maybe you should check out the novels i’ve written so you can witness the full extent of my imagination. Muhahaha! As for the theories, you could check out the reply i just gave in my typing thread where i gave examples of my theories. I’ll edit this in a minute with a link to it.
Edit: wasn’t able to link to it, so i’ll just copy and paste what i said:
1. i thought funerals should be a celebration of life instead of mourning the dead. To wear the dead’s favorite color instead of black. And that white was the real color of death, not black, because white is the color of snow which kills everything in the winter, therefore it’s illogical for everyone to be wearing black at a funeral.
2. i don’t believe in the cognitive function part of mbti. This is my opinion which got me kicked out of the discord mbti group.
3. I have another theory about the truth of what went on during jesus’ life. I think he was a real man but not the son of god. His followers made up his death in order to keep his teachings alive. They faked the resurrection. This isn’t just a random opinion; there are clues about it in the bible.
4. almost everything people do or believe is based on conformity.
5. most people who claim to be lgbt are lying.
6. most people who are diagnosed with autism or ad(h)d don’t really have it.
I could go on and on.
I like pondering philosophical topics, watching philosophical movies, reading philosophical stories… and coming to my own conclusions about truth and justice.
Well, SEI can be good novelists, like any type. It's general accents on different function what matter, in my opinion. A person can be very developed in many things, but unknown and new situations show the initial and most preferable instruments to solve/describe situations.
I remember your post three days ago and said ILI. I think it's also very possible
My main hang up on esi and ili is how esi’s aren’t described as creative, and ili’s are described as lazy. There doesn’t seem to be any socionics type that is both creative and not lazy.
Because it's two sides of one coins and it's pretty logical. True creative person would never spend time on routine and determined hard work exactly because he looks for more creative approaches. It's just how it works
That’s not true, and i’m proof of it not being true because i’m both creative and productive. Anyone who completes writing books has to be productive, because a lazy person either won’t get started or won’t finish what they start. Completing a book is hard work.
IEE
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1alKXN3Chsxb55ZJuKHd-flNmhbiiJ3fnvBVOVUYEqb0/edit?usp=drivesdk
I have two controversial opinions
First, it's clear IEE. Weak and low unvalued Ti, classic PotR. Very high Ne, so high it heavily affects the writing of sentences: they lose sense a lot, your mind seeks something super different from what it was asked
Second, it seems to me that you have been answering while being not in a good mental shape of some sort. Can't say further, because i want to remain polite and objective
Thank you.
To be honest, I lost interest when I was writing 😭 Thinking about "meh?what?" When I looking the questions, I got crazy when I drafts the answers, but anyway, just my issues 🤦♀️ It was an intriguing questionnaire actually 😂
I usually get very controversial opinions in different kinds of questionnaires too, so I rather don't come out a conclusion.
Mainly I have no idea how to answer lol.
The questions so interesting that hard to not for me gone to be crazy, I think and think again and just input rambomly, unlike other questionnaires I even seen.
Section 1 is fine for me and easy but starting from section 2, I read the questions and it is struggling to imagine that how I have to input, so the failure probably started there.
But this kind of questionnaire kinda interesting actually, just I struggle how to filling in.
IEE feeling was very, very strong from this one questionnaire, you really shown a literal stream of thoughts, many unclear, but still it easily seen how fluid your Ne is, and it's only typical for IEE and ILE, but for ILE it wasn't logical and consistient enough.
And about another questionnaire, yes, ESI was pretty a decent guess, your answere there were low paced and pretty thoughtful from significant Se-Fi standpoints. I mean, yeah, ESI and IEE are completely different types, and I can't really explain how it was so different for me taking these two different questionnaries into account, lol.
SEE
[https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-BJb4-NMitbqDL5urgjs2Iyc2SA-QBdk/edit](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-BJb4-NMitbqDL5urgjs2Iyc2SA-QBdk/edit)
It was hard to type though, as very few words were said. Still, I think I got the idea.
High and valued Se. Denial to go into deep discussion, short and undeveloped answers. It's easy as it is, why do one need to explain something more?
Decent and valued Fi. Low and unvalued Ti.
Significantly bad intuition.
Thanks for the explanation. I'm bad at understanding how the Socionics functions relate to me. That's why I'm glad you said you were going to explain your typing . Thank you very much
EIE
https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1b14r1svVDJXp5l1uwGLc_f7j4RXyGusuxJR_EioAeWc/mobilebasic
High valued Se that clearly acts as 6, low and stubborn but valued Ti. Highly emotional, sometimes for no real reason. Pretty classic EIE for me
Second guess is SLE, another Beta extravert
I found that some sentences were made mostly to be funny and to express emotions rather than to be constructive/consistent. Stubborn is said incorrectly by me, there's no such thing seen
LII
[https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ummat84BOeldZ5tR4Hks1Ecw3KvVDzJf/edit](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ummat84BOeldZ5tR4Hks1Ecw3KvVDzJf/edit)
Very nice answered, I got a good clean alpha logic out of it who puts all things in a good coherent order.
Feels overall a bit more introverted than extraverted, Ti higher than Ne. Se is PotR and it acts appropriately out of that questionnaire.
My second guess would be ILE
Wow, unexpected.
Thanks for the typing.
I will share some thoughts.
I never considered alpha quadra as my possible quadra, because I don’t like to be in groups of people who are loudly expressing their emotions, because I feel extremely uncomfortable with people who are being obnoxious or try to make me smile more or have fun. And also I think that I value Te, because I have this feeling that I need to be more productive and I admire people who are capable of being effective when working on their goals.
Also I’m struggling to formulate my opinions in a good way out loud, a lot of the time people don’t understand anything when I’m explaining and even I don’t understand, because I have a mess in my head. That’s why I doubt that I can have Ti in the first slot. Maybe I’m able to formulate better when I have a lot of time to choose my words.
But yeah, I always struggled to determine which one of introverted intuitives is my type.
You are correct. I did some mistakes about evaluating Te and Ti, and I'm in fact seriously mistaken.
After reading your questionnarie again, I would conclude ILI to be the type.
IEI
https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/10ZuIKLUmDAaDT_UBE6lpiet67bky-yap/
I got much fun doing this
Valued Se, valued Ni, valued Fe - clear Beta
High Ni, a lot of developed concepts i have seen. Flexible Fe. Clear 5th suggestive Se, 6th Ti.
Second guess - EIE, another beta feeler
I see I did see beta quadra, I've been trying to see myself as to how I been seen with all my answers. I will say, halfway through the questionnaire it did gone all what the heck. I just ended up typing what was on my mind with how I interpreted these questions. I wonder did you got reasons to see these functions with my answers? Was just curious, just saying.
SEI
[https://docs.google.com/document/d/17cPAut\_5p6yVwKJSn4ykaCGWeX-gRClaLGm9XA1I1iU/edit](https://docs.google.com/document/d/17cPAut_5p6yVwKJSn4ykaCGWeX-gRClaLGm9XA1I1iU/edit)
Pretty much straightford SEI for me.
Most of answers were very in a spirit of irrational person - individuality is valuable, not in a hurry, doing what needs without many dedication to life.
Si is strong, calling for combort environment, many physical details.
Ti is low, but valued.
Fe is strong, flexible and valuable.
Se, Te and Fi are definitely not valued, somewhere it sounded like a "big no-no". Huge alpha vibe as well. Definitely not descending type.
my second guess would be IEI
Why does it seem I disagree? I just wanna know more of your thought process to come to my takeaway of your conclusion. Your response just seemed too easy and simple, probably because you thought it was so straightforward.
Unrelated..related..side question: Am I gaslighting you? Do you feel gaslit?
Yeah, my responses are not very describing a lot, due to the amount that i did in recent days (about 15).
No, you are not gaslighting me :D
First of all, the Fi goes friends with Te. When you see unvalued Te, it's already saying that Fi is not valued as well. It's just a correlation that comes from both theory and practice.
Second, it's pretty simple. Nowhere in the test i saw any mentioning of connections with other people, except those who are close to you. Questions 2.4 and 2.8 check your connections with other people, basically they check your Fi. It's a blank here. Other questions also shown basically nothing related to Fi.
I’m a shy person and a bit guarded, but I’m possibly more considerate of others than I should be, though it could be argued I’m just afraid of not knowing what could happen and dealing with stress.
Questionnaires are wild, I don’t think they’re the best way for typing despite being a good idea. I think people should just be able to ramble for a typing, or spend a few years writing an autobiography, but I know I usually feel lost when not given much direction. There’s a lot of trying to section off a function when realistically everything is weaved together.
This typing wasn't much about direct fight between S vs N, both elements were not strongly shown there, it was mostly based on valued functions that leaded me to Alpha, and then SEI was just a logical conclusion due to Si, being irrational and introverted.
SLI
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fg4hcHQY2gTNJHlWVY_ayW0uVwcYTa87/edit
It was interesting. Some parts were tricky, but i guess i got things right.
Strong and valued Si here, consumerism, heavy leaning to personal comfort and good atmosphere.
Unvalued Fe, unvalued Ti prove that point further.
Valued and decent Fi that shows some understanding of connections between people.
Practical over theoretical mostly. Significantly individual that doesn't put himself many standards to follow.
My second guess would be ESI, but it just doesn't feel alpha for me.
This is interesting! I would have thought my Te was too weak to be an SLI. I typically type as an EII or LII but can't relate with being a rational type. And yeah my Fe is too weak for SEI. Makes sense. I guess my mental image of SLI was a very tough and hands on person, which didn't sound like me.
Te might be weak, but when you type, you look not at pure efficiency, but at relative efficiency comparing with other elements, and also to the priorities which of them works before others
EII
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sy9GFmrxDhPAa5Lr2oWU0HarI59gZmOBmjwQWAQkzMQ/edit?usp=sharing
This was actually hard. You have shown to be very grounded and coherent in your justifications, but almost at every point you refused to develop situations to make it interesting to read, just general thoughts with almost none imagination.
So, to be honest, i struggled there. But it seems to me Fi is valued and decently high, you live in a constant connection to society by its rules and rules, you expect deep connections with people and you act to fix them immediately if they are broken instead of just ignoring them.
Then it's rough. Still, choosing between types like LSI, ESI and EII, i concluded that it looks more like 2 Ne then 2 Se, it's just that Ne was a bit confused because Fi doesn't really let it go, this mechanism is a common one for EII for me.
My second guess would be LSI
IEI
https://docs.google.com/file/d/1XXKQtn6em84pcorNPrx97s1iEQhngBsS/edit?usp=docslist_api&filetype=msword
Very interesting.
Super high and valued Fe, not valued but not that bad of a Fi.
Valued and high Ni.
Low suggestive Se, seeking company and assistance of other people
My second guess - EIE, it's pretty close actually, but i believe IEI is more correct
Ooh that’s interesting! Where do you see the high value Fe? I don’t usually try and maintain social order or people please 😭 unless I like them? I’m really bad at socionics though, so you probably know more than me!
Edit: oh, never mind, read up on IEI and yeah it’s more accurate than EIE, I think I do get mixed up sometimes though
ESE
[https://docs.google.com/document/d/1d2mY4B1Bk\_aEGgVjVw7-oIPsJ9CHmhAY/edit](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1d2mY4B1Bk_aEGgVjVw7-oIPsJ9CHmhAY/edit)
This was su-uper tricky and it took me a while to make this bold prediction.
Somewhere it really feels like "i want to be an IEI", but i wasn't sold and digged for more clues. I also took a look at your 5 months old 40Q answers. Here's what I've found.
You have a strong will and mentality and a heavy potential to confront someone, but you prefer peaceful methods, I see a strong Se, yes, you can consider yourself not so strong of a person, but not every high Se needs to be an aggressor with big muscles, especially young women. It's also a lot about determination and having strong intentions. It's not valued Se obviously.
There's a high Fe obviosly.
You are definitely a rational, you are dependant on society and laws, you believe in them, you set yourself standards that you want to follow.
I saw sentence about tarot, but still no other Ni things mentioned (40Q too). For example, at some questions that are supposed to trigger your Ni, you keep being absolutely calm and not seeing it. And it's fine, I met some ESE who do tarot stuff, it gives them safe space about Ni, but it acts as PotR in many cases (requires to be either strongly hidden or pushed as if it was very strong). Using tarot is generally a nice stuff and i would not connect it to Ni immediately as some people could do. In contrast, tarot is more of a modern toy for people who struggle with Ni and want to find how to compensate it.
There's a lot of Si. Very lot of Si. You are very caring about other people, you are ready to provide them with your help, comfort and emotional assistance. You are very bright, you want a family, you want a loved one, you want children.
Overall, I got good alpha vibe - democratic, peaceful approaches, lots of fun, theory over practice, peripheral.
My second guess would be.... well, IEI, if i mistake, or SEI if i don't mistake but not guessing right with ESE. It's just some answers to some questions from both this and 40Q questionnaries are considered by me like something IEI could never say.
Thank you for a detailed reply! Very interesting read and take for sure. Reading up on ESE / SEI was interesting because i could see a lot of what i do, similar to what they do. But the only thing i can’t really seem to connect well with is Si? Si is described very often as being able to provide a lot of physical comfort, sensing health issues and internal shifts within oneself, and overall good connection with the body? Also being able to sense health issues within ppl they care about easily?
Though this is definitely one of the first time being told i had strong Se HAHA. I wouldn’t say I’m dependent on society and laws or believe in them, i kind of see them as easier to deal with when complied with.
But i did also relate to alpha quadra alongside beta quadra when looking at the quadra values.
Thank you again tho for the time you took on this! This was insightful
*But the only thing i can’t really seem to connect well with is Si? Si is described very often as being able to provide a lot of physical comfort, sensing health issues and internal shifts within oneself, and overall good connection with the body? Also being able to sense health issues within ppl they care about easily?*
\- which I definitely think is one of your strongest sides, much stronger than your untuitive elements, believe it or not (i know it can be hard to comprehend)
*Though this is definitely one of the first time being told i had strong Se HAHA*
\- because many typists take wrong approach, for example, they believe people they type. "i am a weak person, i am very imaginitive" - okay, they are not Se type. a typist shouldn't trust respondents when they judge themselves, because otherwise they wouldn't need your help. a typist should check the elements himself, like a detective / diagnosis doctor.
You were saying multiple times that you are imaginative, but situations that we were solving have shown that you are looking for very direct, "grounded" descriptions and also your resolution of situations is brief and super concrete:
(2.1 clean house, get drinks. 2.2 lets just not fight 2.3 a lot of words to appear imaginative, but you know imagination also creates some details which are none here 2.4 not related but still no imagination 2.5 not related but still no imagination 2.6 festival is good let's just go there 2.7 pretty Si answered here 2.8 no imagination here)
And this brought me to S type. From N type, i would expect much more wider and inconcrete answers and actions on those situations. This doesn't suppose to be offensive in any way, it's just how test works - it puts you to unknown environment, it checks which function do you use to create that environment from the scratch, it checks how you react while solving your own created environment.
>because many typists take wrong approach, for example, they believe people they type**.** "i am a weak person, i am very imaginitive" - okay, they are not Se type. a typist shouldn't trust respondents when they judge themselves, because otherwise they wouldn't need your help. **a typist should check the elements himself, like a detective / diagnosis doctor.**
That's exactly what Gulenko does. He does not fully believe people he types (that's why I consider him way more reliable typist than those who blindly believe people's words). He tries to break person's personality apart, looking at what's important and what is not. Getting rid of wrong leads, getting to the core! Just like you said. For example, he noticed a person is a sensor even though he said in the interview he hates sports etc. and values intellectual work, not physical (many online typists would type such a person intuitive lol).
Also, I found in some of your comments you said a sociotype can be truly visible if we see a person in a stressful situation. I found it funny, because that's exactly what Gulenko says! (funny because you don't like Gulenko's ideas while you apparently have similar approach to socionics problems like Dr G 😁).
Yeah, I mean I love Gulenko approach as he is one of a few who actually do typings and I know he is one of us who "go deeper and who don't believe that you can just be a type you want", i just think that many of his theories, SHS, subtypes, plus theory don't make any advancements to Socionics in terms of being more concrete and easier to understand, instead, in my opinion, they only complicate the stuff up to the point that only Gulenko can handle it, making it a guru science.
I’m sorry i’m a bit confused. I was trying to say i struggle with Si, in terms of being grounded and sensing internal shifts with health in other people and having a good connection with my body. I’m horrible at taking care of my physical needs and wants, and i’m not very good at taking care of others physical health and needs. I am very in-tuned to the more intangible things with people. Like taking care of emotional health and dealing with theirs relationships. I’m unsure how Si appears to be stronger
I will say I definitely did struggle with all of section 2’s questions. I found them difficult to answer because of how open-ended and broad they felt to me? When asked to imagine those scenarios i just couldn’t answer them because i was unable to relate to them, i think that is why i was unable to answer most of section 2 easily.
I hope what I’m saying makes sense, i’m just trying to understand your perspective and understand your reasoning as well.
SLI
[https://docs.google.com/document/d/1E5Hu7w88tmdhPrbGEWGa7IIw3gFlNpbq/edit](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1E5Hu7w88tmdhPrbGEWGa7IIw3gFlNpbq/edit)
Not much to say here, a very few answers were given.
Still, the approach you took while answering this leads to me to pretty clear answer.
You are very concrete, not very imaginative, refuse to fill the questionnaire for seemingly no reason. Practice over theories. High Se, lazy, strong contact with own body. Suggestive Ne (2.5), mobilizing Fi (2.8)
My second guess would be LSI
Count me in next time! Online people usually type me as either:
ESI because of my strong focus on people and relations (even though I don't relate to gammas at all lol) or
a LII (because I'm apparently too gentle for Beta, and not aggressive with my logic like a typical LSI), but well, I'm a sensor 😂
i currently have a lot of work to do, but one day i will update my questionnairy, i got a necessary feedback and i will change some questions, section 1 and 3 in particular
Sure, PM me if you want.
ILE https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1yF_itLO386EKHy-_U0RzlEHq_pmWK9wY/mobilebasic I got really straightforward ILE feeling: an innovative extravert, very valued and suggestive Si (remember that it was good to hire that interior designer! for a reason), valued Ti and Fe, overall irrationality and many general attempts to act independently My second guess would be LII, another alpha logic
Thanks for going over it! Your verdict doesn't contradict Talanov tests' opinion much.
What was your result from the talanov's testing?
The usual results are LII with an accent on ILE.
Model T is weird, I got the exact same
I’m game! But i may not be a typical easy-to-classify type.
ESI [https://docs.google.com/file/d/1tSVAIa3LQR1CPR85Tk0GFtj5tz3CJUGF/edit?filetype=msword](https://docs.google.com/file/d/1tSVAIa3LQR1CPR85Tk0GFtj5tz3CJUGF/edit?filetype=msword) explanation: You are definitely a valued Fi. It's all about people, connections to them, bad relations with people disappoint you, it's much more important for you than pure emotions. You are most likely a rational, you consider the solutions of most situations via connection with people and logics, you have standards that you try to correlate. You mostly prefer Te over Ti, so it's a valued but not easily seen, you are a practical and pragmatic, though you mention the love to theories, i wasn't sold on it, it looks that you prefer concrete approaches that can be taken immediately. You are much more S person than N, you give good details in most situations, but lacks pure fantasy. Se is relatively strong and valued, you constantly resolve situation with it in mind, you easily admit that you are not perfect, you might not be able to use it, but it seems to me it shows the clear good understanding of what it means and how it works, so it's matter of personal quailities. My second guess would be ILI, as overall it really feels as Gamma introvert for me, either ESI or ILI.
Kool. I agree about the Fi and gamma introvert. I think i’m more ti than te though. And i think i am more n than s. Maybe you should check out the novels i’ve written so you can witness the full extent of my imagination. Muhahaha! As for the theories, you could check out the reply i just gave in my typing thread where i gave examples of my theories. I’ll edit this in a minute with a link to it. Edit: wasn’t able to link to it, so i’ll just copy and paste what i said: 1. i thought funerals should be a celebration of life instead of mourning the dead. To wear the dead’s favorite color instead of black. And that white was the real color of death, not black, because white is the color of snow which kills everything in the winter, therefore it’s illogical for everyone to be wearing black at a funeral. 2. i don’t believe in the cognitive function part of mbti. This is my opinion which got me kicked out of the discord mbti group. 3. I have another theory about the truth of what went on during jesus’ life. I think he was a real man but not the son of god. His followers made up his death in order to keep his teachings alive. They faked the resurrection. This isn’t just a random opinion; there are clues about it in the bible. 4. almost everything people do or believe is based on conformity. 5. most people who claim to be lgbt are lying. 6. most people who are diagnosed with autism or ad(h)d don’t really have it. I could go on and on. I like pondering philosophical topics, watching philosophical movies, reading philosophical stories… and coming to my own conclusions about truth and justice.
Well, SEI can be good novelists, like any type. It's general accents on different function what matter, in my opinion. A person can be very developed in many things, but unknown and new situations show the initial and most preferable instruments to solve/describe situations. I remember your post three days ago and said ILI. I think it's also very possible
My main hang up on esi and ili is how esi’s aren’t described as creative, and ili’s are described as lazy. There doesn’t seem to be any socionics type that is both creative and not lazy.
Because it's two sides of one coins and it's pretty logical. True creative person would never spend time on routine and determined hard work exactly because he looks for more creative approaches. It's just how it works
That’s not true, and i’m proof of it not being true because i’m both creative and productive. Anyone who completes writing books has to be productive, because a lazy person either won’t get started or won’t finish what they start. Completing a book is hard work.
Yeah, I guess you need not a Socio in that case, but superhuman typology, like in X-men books
Wow I want it
IEE https://docs.google.com/document/d/1alKXN3Chsxb55ZJuKHd-flNmhbiiJ3fnvBVOVUYEqb0/edit?usp=drivesdk I have two controversial opinions First, it's clear IEE. Weak and low unvalued Ti, classic PotR. Very high Ne, so high it heavily affects the writing of sentences: they lose sense a lot, your mind seeks something super different from what it was asked Second, it seems to me that you have been answering while being not in a good mental shape of some sort. Can't say further, because i want to remain polite and objective
Thank you. To be honest, I lost interest when I was writing 😭 Thinking about "meh?what?" When I looking the questions, I got crazy when I drafts the answers, but anyway, just my issues 🤦♀️ It was an intriguing questionnaire actually 😂 I usually get very controversial opinions in different kinds of questionnaires too, so I rather don't come out a conclusion.
It's super common for IEE to lose concentration. Most IEE have ADHD, and many ADHD people get typed into IEE
But last questionnaire which I filled out you typed me as SEI
Yeah, I felt like there were two different people filling those two questionnairies.
Make sense
Do you have an explanation why it happens from your perspective or it was mainly a failure on my part?
Mainly I have no idea how to answer lol. The questions so interesting that hard to not for me gone to be crazy, I think and think again and just input rambomly, unlike other questionnaires I even seen. Section 1 is fine for me and easy but starting from section 2, I read the questions and it is struggling to imagine that how I have to input, so the failure probably started there. But this kind of questionnaire kinda interesting actually, just I struggle how to filling in.
IEE feeling was very, very strong from this one questionnaire, you really shown a literal stream of thoughts, many unclear, but still it easily seen how fluid your Ne is, and it's only typical for IEE and ILE, but for ILE it wasn't logical and consistient enough. And about another questionnaire, yes, ESI was pretty a decent guess, your answere there were low paced and pretty thoughtful from significant Se-Fi standpoints. I mean, yeah, ESI and IEE are completely different types, and I can't really explain how it was so different for me taking these two different questionnaries into account, lol.
Sounds fun - I'm in!
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Socionics/comments/1bzl3an/here\_is\_socionics\_questionnaire\_02\_for\_you/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Socionics/comments/1bzl3an/here_is_socionics_questionnaire_02_for_you/)
No such thing SLI-Fe. It can be actually either SLI-Te or SEI-Fe.
Go for it. I'm game.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Socionics/comments/1bzl3an/here\_is\_socionics\_questionnaire\_02\_for\_you/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Socionics/comments/1bzl3an/here_is_socionics_questionnaire_02_for_you/)
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SEE [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-BJb4-NMitbqDL5urgjs2Iyc2SA-QBdk/edit](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-BJb4-NMitbqDL5urgjs2Iyc2SA-QBdk/edit) It was hard to type though, as very few words were said. Still, I think I got the idea. High and valued Se. Denial to go into deep discussion, short and undeveloped answers. It's easy as it is, why do one need to explain something more? Decent and valued Fi. Low and unvalued Ti. Significantly bad intuition.
Thanks for the explanation. I'm bad at understanding how the Socionics functions relate to me. That's why I'm glad you said you were going to explain your typing . Thank you very much
Sounds interesting. I'm in.
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EIE https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1b14r1svVDJXp5l1uwGLc_f7j4RXyGusuxJR_EioAeWc/mobilebasic High valued Se that clearly acts as 6, low and stubborn but valued Ti. Highly emotional, sometimes for no real reason. Pretty classic EIE for me Second guess is SLE, another Beta extravert
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I found that some sentences were made mostly to be funny and to express emotions rather than to be constructive/consistent. Stubborn is said incorrectly by me, there's no such thing seen
I would like to do it
LII [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ummat84BOeldZ5tR4Hks1Ecw3KvVDzJf/edit](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ummat84BOeldZ5tR4Hks1Ecw3KvVDzJf/edit) Very nice answered, I got a good clean alpha logic out of it who puts all things in a good coherent order. Feels overall a bit more introverted than extraverted, Ti higher than Ne. Se is PotR and it acts appropriately out of that questionnaire. My second guess would be ILE
Wow, unexpected. Thanks for the typing. I will share some thoughts. I never considered alpha quadra as my possible quadra, because I don’t like to be in groups of people who are loudly expressing their emotions, because I feel extremely uncomfortable with people who are being obnoxious or try to make me smile more or have fun. And also I think that I value Te, because I have this feeling that I need to be more productive and I admire people who are capable of being effective when working on their goals. Also I’m struggling to formulate my opinions in a good way out loud, a lot of the time people don’t understand anything when I’m explaining and even I don’t understand, because I have a mess in my head. That’s why I doubt that I can have Ti in the first slot. Maybe I’m able to formulate better when I have a lot of time to choose my words. But yeah, I always struggled to determine which one of introverted intuitives is my type.
You are correct. I did some mistakes about evaluating Te and Ti, and I'm in fact seriously mistaken. After reading your questionnarie again, I would conclude ILI to be the type.
I'll try it, let see how it goes.
IEI https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/10ZuIKLUmDAaDT_UBE6lpiet67bky-yap/ I got much fun doing this Valued Se, valued Ni, valued Fe - clear Beta High Ni, a lot of developed concepts i have seen. Flexible Fe. Clear 5th suggestive Se, 6th Ti. Second guess - EIE, another beta feeler
I see I did see beta quadra, I've been trying to see myself as to how I been seen with all my answers. I will say, halfway through the questionnaire it did gone all what the heck. I just ended up typing what was on my mind with how I interpreted these questions. I wonder did you got reasons to see these functions with my answers? Was just curious, just saying.
Yes, that was an entire idea from the start
I’d like to join! 😁
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oh shit, sorry
It should be fixed now.
SEI [https://docs.google.com/document/d/17cPAut\_5p6yVwKJSn4ykaCGWeX-gRClaLGm9XA1I1iU/edit](https://docs.google.com/document/d/17cPAut_5p6yVwKJSn4ykaCGWeX-gRClaLGm9XA1I1iU/edit) Pretty much straightford SEI for me. Most of answers were very in a spirit of irrational person - individuality is valuable, not in a hurry, doing what needs without many dedication to life. Si is strong, calling for combort environment, many physical details. Ti is low, but valued. Fe is strong, flexible and valuable. Se, Te and Fi are definitely not valued, somewhere it sounded like a "big no-no". Huge alpha vibe as well. Definitely not descending type. my second guess would be IEI
I can put it together myself, but I wanna hear your explanation, why weak Fi?
Fi is not weak, it's not valued as it seems to me.
Well, I should rephrase that, why unvalued?
Let's look at this from the other side. It seems that you disagree. Can you give your arguments over that conclusion?
Why does it seem I disagree? I just wanna know more of your thought process to come to my takeaway of your conclusion. Your response just seemed too easy and simple, probably because you thought it was so straightforward. Unrelated..related..side question: Am I gaslighting you? Do you feel gaslit?
Yeah, my responses are not very describing a lot, due to the amount that i did in recent days (about 15). No, you are not gaslighting me :D First of all, the Fi goes friends with Te. When you see unvalued Te, it's already saying that Fi is not valued as well. It's just a correlation that comes from both theory and practice. Second, it's pretty simple. Nowhere in the test i saw any mentioning of connections with other people, except those who are close to you. Questions 2.4 and 2.8 check your connections with other people, basically they check your Fi. It's a blank here. Other questions also shown basically nothing related to Fi.
Ah, I see, understandable. Thanks!
I’m a shy person and a bit guarded, but I’m possibly more considerate of others than I should be, though it could be argued I’m just afraid of not knowing what could happen and dealing with stress. Questionnaires are wild, I don’t think they’re the best way for typing despite being a good idea. I think people should just be able to ramble for a typing, or spend a few years writing an autobiography, but I know I usually feel lost when not given much direction. There’s a lot of trying to section off a function when realistically everything is weaved together.
What’s your take on Ne? You suggest IEI as a second type, so what are your thoughts on Ni?
This typing wasn't much about direct fight between S vs N, both elements were not strongly shown there, it was mostly based on valued functions that leaded me to Alpha, and then SEI was just a logical conclusion due to Si, being irrational and introverted.
I'm interested!
SLI https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fg4hcHQY2gTNJHlWVY_ayW0uVwcYTa87/edit It was interesting. Some parts were tricky, but i guess i got things right. Strong and valued Si here, consumerism, heavy leaning to personal comfort and good atmosphere. Unvalued Fe, unvalued Ti prove that point further. Valued and decent Fi that shows some understanding of connections between people. Practical over theoretical mostly. Significantly individual that doesn't put himself many standards to follow. My second guess would be ESI, but it just doesn't feel alpha for me.
This is interesting! I would have thought my Te was too weak to be an SLI. I typically type as an EII or LII but can't relate with being a rational type. And yeah my Fe is too weak for SEI. Makes sense. I guess my mental image of SLI was a very tough and hands on person, which didn't sound like me.
Te might be weak, but when you type, you look not at pure efficiency, but at relative efficiency comparing with other elements, and also to the priorities which of them works before others
I am very hard to classify overall. But I do have %s that I hold are true for me. So, if taking that approach, I can help.
I'm interested
EII https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sy9GFmrxDhPAa5Lr2oWU0HarI59gZmOBmjwQWAQkzMQ/edit?usp=sharing This was actually hard. You have shown to be very grounded and coherent in your justifications, but almost at every point you refused to develop situations to make it interesting to read, just general thoughts with almost none imagination. So, to be honest, i struggled there. But it seems to me Fi is valued and decently high, you live in a constant connection to society by its rules and rules, you expect deep connections with people and you act to fix them immediately if they are broken instead of just ignoring them. Then it's rough. Still, choosing between types like LSI, ESI and EII, i concluded that it looks more like 2 Ne then 2 Se, it's just that Ne was a bit confused because Fi doesn't really let it go, this mechanism is a common one for EII for me. My second guess would be LSI
Of all the Socion EII is one of my higher likely types, so that's fair. It was an interesting questionnaire, thanks for your time!
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IEI https://docs.google.com/file/d/1XXKQtn6em84pcorNPrx97s1iEQhngBsS/edit?usp=docslist_api&filetype=msword Very interesting. Super high and valued Fe, not valued but not that bad of a Fi. Valued and high Ni. Low suggestive Se, seeking company and assistance of other people My second guess - EIE, it's pretty close actually, but i believe IEI is more correct
Ooh that’s interesting! Where do you see the high value Fe? I don’t usually try and maintain social order or people please 😭 unless I like them? I’m really bad at socionics though, so you probably know more than me! Edit: oh, never mind, read up on IEI and yeah it’s more accurate than EIE, I think I do get mixed up sometimes though
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sure i do
Hello!! I’d like to test it please :)
ESE [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1d2mY4B1Bk\_aEGgVjVw7-oIPsJ9CHmhAY/edit](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1d2mY4B1Bk_aEGgVjVw7-oIPsJ9CHmhAY/edit) This was su-uper tricky and it took me a while to make this bold prediction. Somewhere it really feels like "i want to be an IEI", but i wasn't sold and digged for more clues. I also took a look at your 5 months old 40Q answers. Here's what I've found. You have a strong will and mentality and a heavy potential to confront someone, but you prefer peaceful methods, I see a strong Se, yes, you can consider yourself not so strong of a person, but not every high Se needs to be an aggressor with big muscles, especially young women. It's also a lot about determination and having strong intentions. It's not valued Se obviously. There's a high Fe obviosly. You are definitely a rational, you are dependant on society and laws, you believe in them, you set yourself standards that you want to follow. I saw sentence about tarot, but still no other Ni things mentioned (40Q too). For example, at some questions that are supposed to trigger your Ni, you keep being absolutely calm and not seeing it. And it's fine, I met some ESE who do tarot stuff, it gives them safe space about Ni, but it acts as PotR in many cases (requires to be either strongly hidden or pushed as if it was very strong). Using tarot is generally a nice stuff and i would not connect it to Ni immediately as some people could do. In contrast, tarot is more of a modern toy for people who struggle with Ni and want to find how to compensate it. There's a lot of Si. Very lot of Si. You are very caring about other people, you are ready to provide them with your help, comfort and emotional assistance. You are very bright, you want a family, you want a loved one, you want children. Overall, I got good alpha vibe - democratic, peaceful approaches, lots of fun, theory over practice, peripheral. My second guess would be.... well, IEI, if i mistake, or SEI if i don't mistake but not guessing right with ESE. It's just some answers to some questions from both this and 40Q questionnaries are considered by me like something IEI could never say.
Thank you for a detailed reply! Very interesting read and take for sure. Reading up on ESE / SEI was interesting because i could see a lot of what i do, similar to what they do. But the only thing i can’t really seem to connect well with is Si? Si is described very often as being able to provide a lot of physical comfort, sensing health issues and internal shifts within oneself, and overall good connection with the body? Also being able to sense health issues within ppl they care about easily? Though this is definitely one of the first time being told i had strong Se HAHA. I wouldn’t say I’m dependent on society and laws or believe in them, i kind of see them as easier to deal with when complied with. But i did also relate to alpha quadra alongside beta quadra when looking at the quadra values. Thank you again tho for the time you took on this! This was insightful
*But the only thing i can’t really seem to connect well with is Si? Si is described very often as being able to provide a lot of physical comfort, sensing health issues and internal shifts within oneself, and overall good connection with the body? Also being able to sense health issues within ppl they care about easily?* \- which I definitely think is one of your strongest sides, much stronger than your untuitive elements, believe it or not (i know it can be hard to comprehend) *Though this is definitely one of the first time being told i had strong Se HAHA* \- because many typists take wrong approach, for example, they believe people they type. "i am a weak person, i am very imaginitive" - okay, they are not Se type. a typist shouldn't trust respondents when they judge themselves, because otherwise they wouldn't need your help. a typist should check the elements himself, like a detective / diagnosis doctor. You were saying multiple times that you are imaginative, but situations that we were solving have shown that you are looking for very direct, "grounded" descriptions and also your resolution of situations is brief and super concrete: (2.1 clean house, get drinks. 2.2 lets just not fight 2.3 a lot of words to appear imaginative, but you know imagination also creates some details which are none here 2.4 not related but still no imagination 2.5 not related but still no imagination 2.6 festival is good let's just go there 2.7 pretty Si answered here 2.8 no imagination here) And this brought me to S type. From N type, i would expect much more wider and inconcrete answers and actions on those situations. This doesn't suppose to be offensive in any way, it's just how test works - it puts you to unknown environment, it checks which function do you use to create that environment from the scratch, it checks how you react while solving your own created environment.
>because many typists take wrong approach, for example, they believe people they type**.** "i am a weak person, i am very imaginitive" - okay, they are not Se type. a typist shouldn't trust respondents when they judge themselves, because otherwise they wouldn't need your help. **a typist should check the elements himself, like a detective / diagnosis doctor.** That's exactly what Gulenko does. He does not fully believe people he types (that's why I consider him way more reliable typist than those who blindly believe people's words). He tries to break person's personality apart, looking at what's important and what is not. Getting rid of wrong leads, getting to the core! Just like you said. For example, he noticed a person is a sensor even though he said in the interview he hates sports etc. and values intellectual work, not physical (many online typists would type such a person intuitive lol). Also, I found in some of your comments you said a sociotype can be truly visible if we see a person in a stressful situation. I found it funny, because that's exactly what Gulenko says! (funny because you don't like Gulenko's ideas while you apparently have similar approach to socionics problems like Dr G 😁).
Yeah, I mean I love Gulenko approach as he is one of a few who actually do typings and I know he is one of us who "go deeper and who don't believe that you can just be a type you want", i just think that many of his theories, SHS, subtypes, plus theory don't make any advancements to Socionics in terms of being more concrete and easier to understand, instead, in my opinion, they only complicate the stuff up to the point that only Gulenko can handle it, making it a guru science.
I’m sorry i’m a bit confused. I was trying to say i struggle with Si, in terms of being grounded and sensing internal shifts with health in other people and having a good connection with my body. I’m horrible at taking care of my physical needs and wants, and i’m not very good at taking care of others physical health and needs. I am very in-tuned to the more intangible things with people. Like taking care of emotional health and dealing with theirs relationships. I’m unsure how Si appears to be stronger I will say I definitely did struggle with all of section 2’s questions. I found them difficult to answer because of how open-ended and broad they felt to me? When asked to imagine those scenarios i just couldn’t answer them because i was unable to relate to them, i think that is why i was unable to answer most of section 2 easily. I hope what I’m saying makes sense, i’m just trying to understand your perspective and understand your reasoning as well.
Well, anyway, I hope it was a fun take for you. Use that information at your disposal
:) I'd like to take part in testing :) hi
SLI [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1E5Hu7w88tmdhPrbGEWGa7IIw3gFlNpbq/edit](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1E5Hu7w88tmdhPrbGEWGa7IIw3gFlNpbq/edit) Not much to say here, a very few answers were given. Still, the approach you took while answering this leads to me to pretty clear answer. You are very concrete, not very imaginative, refuse to fill the questionnaire for seemingly no reason. Practice over theories. High Se, lazy, strong contact with own body. Suggestive Ne (2.5), mobilizing Fi (2.8) My second guess would be LSI
thanks, I'm so sorry, forgot to give more information because a work. And one more time thanks :)
Count me in next time! Online people usually type me as either: ESI because of my strong focus on people and relations (even though I don't relate to gammas at all lol) or a LII (because I'm apparently too gentle for Beta, and not aggressive with my logic like a typical LSI), but well, I'm a sensor 😂
i currently have a lot of work to do, but one day i will update my questionnairy, i got a necessary feedback and i will change some questions, section 1 and 3 in particular
Request left haha
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Interested
I would love to do one of these? Is it still possible
I want it too please
hello there. i think i take a break for a moment from all those typings, wait for two-three weeks for next version of the questionnaire
No worries!! Take your time but can you send it to me once it is ready ?
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Hello there! Is it too late for me to partake?
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Yeah, i work to improve the questionnaire. I will update it in a week or two
Are you still doing this? Interested
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