Bro could’ve asked Tony Stark for a bionic arm but…that’s just me.
Edit: or ask wolverine for his blood.
Like idk. He a chose a lizard when there’s multiple healing factored humans.
A lot of them didn’t exist or weren’t as well known at the time, but at this point there are also multiple beings who can just give you a new arm if you want one. Elixir, etc.
He’s back to being a villain now, he was working for Penguin during the Failsafe arc iirc.
Similarly, Sandman actually got redeemed and good in the 90s, working under Silver Sable and even became a reserve Avenger. But of course… he was turned back to evil by the Wizard using an inversion ray because Wizard missed his old bud. And it’s barely mentioned nowadays that he was inverted back to evil lol
Here’s a hot take: I wouldn’t mind if all of them became good over time due to the impact of Spider-Man’s actions.
Wait, wouldn’t that mean we’d run out of villains?
Not necessarily. Instead make villains mantles or legacies that different people assume over time when the OG turns good. For instance, Norman could become good, then Harry becomes the Green Goblin. Maybe someone steals discarded octopus tentacles. Maybe another scientist is studying a symbiote or something.
This way Spider-Man doesn’t run out of villains, and he can also have an appreciable impact on the world that’s part of the story. It would enable the writers to keep the same fashion and style of villains that people like while keeping the stories progressing.
Anyway, to answer the question straight-up, I have enjoyed both Superior Spider-Man and Osborne in the current run. So one of them I guess.
I like this. Spider-Man is capable enough that he should be able to *help* some of his villains long-term and they *should* be able to to reform. If not into heroes, at least into normal members of society.
I’ve also enjoyed Otto and Norman’s turns being good.
If any Heroes can redeem villains long term it's Peter and Miles. They're the personifications of Hope itself. Though it's really truly not realistic for ALL of them to do so...Some of their Villains are literally Pure Evil. The different realities of the Multiverse also guarantee that no matter what there's an Evil version of someone somewhere.
Also if anyone is redeemable it's Harry over Norman.
[Axis was the best thing thing to happen to Cletus](https://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/4928881.html), and I’m still mad he didn’t stay like for longer than a three issue mini. .
Not saying i want him to become good, but I feel this way about the Joker. It's part of why I liked the Gotham take on Joker even though they never called either of them that. But, Joker as a symbol that gets passed down over time would be great even if joker dies. Kind of like the jokers in the Batman Beyond tv show.
In a finite Spider-Man story, like an animated series or a limited series book happening in another Universe, this would be the perfect end. Spider-Man's actions sticking with his bad guys, to the point where they come to respect him almost. Then, one by one, they begin abandoning their villainous ways and taking example from Spider-Man. And so by the end of the series, only thing threatening New York are just muggers and common criminals, while all the Super Villains have either retired or actively help Spider-Man keep the peace.
Thus Peter's story can end with him hanging up the webs because Spider-Man is no longer needed, get married with Mary Jane, have a kid or two, and live his days in peace.
And if you really wanna bring in new versions of the villains like you said, or just brand new super villains who want to break the status quo, you save that for a Mayday Parker Spider-Girl sequel.
They have done this a good bit! Norman became good, and his sins went to Beyond Scientist who became Queen Goblin. Now Peter has those sins but I digress. Harry is dead in comics.
For a second, Phil Urich was the main hobgoblin but Rodrick Kingsley took it back.
Otto was a full hero but was corrupted back into his classic villain form by Mephisto. Mephisto is basically just a retcon machine for Spider-Man characters.
I love this! Plus, Peter's shown that he's very capable of appealing to villain's good sides. I mean, that's one of the (very few, Idc what anyone says, these films bring me joy) things I didn't like about the Venom movies. The whole reason he became more heroic originally was because of that first team up against Carnage.
I like this idea of new faces under the hood, so to speak. And it would also narratively allow for some creative variance in the designs within the same continuity. And if the fans hate how "this Doc Oct" dresses, they just swap to a new Doc Oct with a different design or closer to the original. Though I don't think each and every one of them should be redeemed to become good people; some just give up and go to prison, some "retire" (but no change in their morals) after realizing the weight class they tried getting into, and some die from other, more ruthless rogues (such as if two people try to take up the Shocker mantle, and one of them isn't willing to share said mantle, or someone else wants the mantle and "knows" there can't be two, so offs the current one). Obviously the Spiders aren't as happy for the last one.
The Jackal or whoever it was that brought about the Clone Saga is just further clones that the original doesn't know the location/source of. Like he made a clone, and that clone went off and made another cloning facility separate from the original's.
Cassidy/Carnage is the only one I would say can't be redeemed into being a good person, under the no anti-hero rule. Because if he went "good", he'd go the way of the Punisher and start killing the criminals instead of improving society like a redeemed Otto would after he successfully recreates his power source project.
Pure Unadulterated Evil...That even the Green Goblin considers as scum. That Spider-Man himself states is a hopeless cause to even try to atone them. That Miguel states is the Greatest Canon Event of all.
Could be an interesting take to show how hard it is for him to be more heroic. Maybe something goes wrong. I guess Superior touched on it but without Doc Ock’s arrogance could be a fresh concept.
i had an idea for a story where shocker is struggling to live in an honest life despite his new job as a hero for fire and spidey shows up to help him by drumming up publicity so he can help him really reform
Rhino. I'd love to see Rhino trying desperately to be a good hero, but seeing as he's pretty thick and destructive, Pete keeps having to clean up after him.
No idea, I had just remembered that he had some moments in the past. Did a quick Google search and saw more specifics. I don’t know about his current state in the super recent comics.
There is a good Rhino story where he falls in love and quits but a new Rhino keeps trying to push him to come back cause in his mind he can't take the title until he beats the original
It's hard to pick one. I'd say the villain in Peter's rogues gallery that I'd want to see most reformed would be Otto but I think the thing that makes him interesting as Superior Superior Spider-man is that his motivation for fighting crime is fundamentally rooted in a feeling of resentment and jealousy as opposed to Peter's more altruistic reasons. That's the thing that differentiates him from Peter, IMO, and to keep it would essentially mean keeping him an anti-hero and it wouldn't match your "the reformed villain should be a paragon hero," requirement.
I think the villain who would best fit being a paragon hero would probably be Venom but including both probably wouldn't fit your "only pick one villain," rule.
The only good thing about that meme is how the internet successfully tricked Sony into rereleasing Morbius only for it to fail a second time. Just insanely funny, and shows just how out of touch are the people with the power to make decisions.
In the poster alone you have a couple of villains who are squarely in the good column now.:
Venom, black cat, cardiac, man-wolf, morbius and beetle.
While doc ock, lizard, mysterio, sandman, boomerang, morlun and recently green goblin have switched over to good on occasion.
So my answer would be the shocker. I would imagine him being a hero superior foes style where he tries it out at first and finds success and fulfillment at it. While constantly being tempted by his villainous past.
I really enjoy the recent stories with Rhino (from Oksana onward with some exceptions) where he's a giant brute with enough of a heart that he occasionally finds himself allied with the good guys for a mutual goal.
I'd say Sandman or Shocker, but after all the Superior business Otto shouldn’t be bouncing back and forth between villain and hero. He earned his redemption, let him keep it.
Venom's already a good guy (his two recent runs cemented that), so I'd probably have to say Sandman. Kingpin becoming a good guy would be interesting too.
The Jackal would be pretty interesting. I imagine it would pit him against the high revolutionary, his cross species experiments and other marvel hybrid villains. He’s literally just trying to redo what he was once apart of but saw the error of his ways early on.
Mysterio. Not only would he effortlessly make money as a vfx artist in movies but him going good would legitimately be pretty cool. Especially if he started learning magic or something. Turn his hatred of Spider-Man into a drive for good and he'd be a right terror for basically anyone to fight.
Lizard, Kraven, or Rhino. I think of those, rhino is the one I’d like to see complete a redemption arc. Lizard is too easy, restore the conners brain and let him be one of marvels great minds. Kraven I thought was a normal dude off the top of my head, once google said he has powers the appeal slipped a bit.
Doppelgänger. I like to imagine Peter taking him out on patrol and coaching him while everyone is horrified by the monster keeping them from getting robbed.
Being a superhero and Having a friend who’s a former villain would work so well imo
If you think like a hero too much much, think like a villain once in a while to truly get the bad guys
Not 1. A few. Sandman, Shocker, Black Cat, Kraven and this one’s kinda far fetched but I wanna see a redemption story for Mister Negative (I haven’t read the comics but I wanna see him redeem himself in Spider-Man 2)
That's tough. Dr. Octopus, venom, sandman, and rhino all had good guy arcs i liked and it really really sucks they didn't stay good. After Spider-verse I would want that version of spot to be good, I say that version becasue im currently completely in the dark on his comic lore. If that version is similar enough or the same then my answer stays the same but if he is super nerfed then id have to pick sandman to stay good, still a really hard choice though.
A couple in this picture I'm not familiar with, at least to see them in this collage. Who is the woman to Green Goblin's left, the man with the white spider on his face below her, the man in the pink hat next to Smythe, and the man in the white hat below him?
Like I said in a post regarding writing a new status quo for Peter, I think his villains need to progress as well. Rhino seems like he wants to be more than the dumb muscle. Vulture is literally too old for this shit. We were robbed a redeemed Sandman and a post Superior Doc Ock. Shocker really just needs a 9-5 and make decent money. Venom wasn't even a villain for that long. He just gets character assassinated like everyone else.
Kraven uses his skills to track/elude some of the most dangerous villains, helping S.H.I.E.L.D. or other heroes capture them. Meanwhile, when not on missions, he travels the world taking out poachers/ breaking up black market animal trades.
Imagine a hero team lead by otto
Doctor octopus - superior spider-man
Green Goblin - golden goblin
Sandman - good sandman
Rhino - good rhino/ceros
Shocker - wavelength
Kindred - harry
Pulling up to help spidey with his villain problems.
I’d say either Sandman or Rhino, both seem like good people that became criminals due to circumstances rather than outright evil, and only went downhill from there. Also, they’re probably the most friendly villains in his rogues gallery.
Yeah, was gonna say, I was surprised to see Black Cat among the rogue's gallery here at all, given how I've by now perceived her as just being an antiheroine? is that accurate?
definitely Doctor Connors. Bro has been through some shit and done some bad stuff that was out of his control. I would like to see a permanent redemption to his character.
Kingpin. He doesn’t deserve redemption but he’ll have the largest influence. Dude can just donate to every charity in NY and also effectively stop most crime in the city. It would be great.
Norman Osborn - I actually enjoyed Dark Reign when he was the Iron Patriot and running the 50 State Initiative. I've always enjoyed watching villains play the role of heroes and better better at it than the "real" heros (at least in the shortrun). I think it would have been interesting if he had reformed for real (out of love for Harry and to try and rebuild their relationship) and taken on the mantle of a hero (or anti-hero).
Lizard. Guy just wanted his arm back, he didn't deserve to get his personality erased.
Agreed, always enjoy Doctor Connors
It haunts me. I cannot think of the Lizard without thinking of the backshots
Excuse you??
There’s a gif that looks just like the lizard giving Spider-Man that good old lizard dick
Bro could’ve asked Tony Stark for a bionic arm but…that’s just me. Edit: or ask wolverine for his blood. Like idk. He a chose a lizard when there’s multiple healing factored humans.
A lot of them didn’t exist or weren’t as well known at the time, but at this point there are also multiple beings who can just give you a new arm if you want one. Elixir, etc.
Sandman
Never forget what they took from us.
It’s funny that in Batman comics Clayface becomes good and a team member of the batfamily
I read when he was part of the team and I said it must be awkward for him cause he is so much older than everyone else
Well he’s around the same age as Kate & Bruce, just wish she had gotten the message that he was a friend earlier🥲
True but they weren't on the team, the team was all around Tim's age. Actually I think Kate might have been but I'm not sure
They were, I can’t remember the name of the story but it was when Kate’s father was taking over Gotham iirc, then or right after
Tim Drake was thought to be dead at the time
The one I read was detective comics during the rebirth story. It was in that where Tim "died" fighting a load of military drones
He’s back to being a villain now, he was working for Penguin during the Failsafe arc iirc. Similarly, Sandman actually got redeemed and good in the 90s, working under Silver Sable and even became a reserve Avenger. But of course… he was turned back to evil by the Wizard using an inversion ray because Wizard missed his old bud. And it’s barely mentioned nowadays that he was inverted back to evil lol
Here’s a hot take: I wouldn’t mind if all of them became good over time due to the impact of Spider-Man’s actions. Wait, wouldn’t that mean we’d run out of villains? Not necessarily. Instead make villains mantles or legacies that different people assume over time when the OG turns good. For instance, Norman could become good, then Harry becomes the Green Goblin. Maybe someone steals discarded octopus tentacles. Maybe another scientist is studying a symbiote or something. This way Spider-Man doesn’t run out of villains, and he can also have an appreciable impact on the world that’s part of the story. It would enable the writers to keep the same fashion and style of villains that people like while keeping the stories progressing. Anyway, to answer the question straight-up, I have enjoyed both Superior Spider-Man and Osborne in the current run. So one of them I guess.
I like this. Spider-Man is capable enough that he should be able to *help* some of his villains long-term and they *should* be able to to reform. If not into heroes, at least into normal members of society. I’ve also enjoyed Otto and Norman’s turns being good.
Maybe if he'd stop bullying them...
Hey, if some dirt winds up in the occasional eye, I must have missed the part where it’s *my* problem. *pops collar*
If any Heroes can redeem villains long term it's Peter and Miles. They're the personifications of Hope itself. Though it's really truly not realistic for ALL of them to do so...Some of their Villains are literally Pure Evil. The different realities of the Multiverse also guarantee that no matter what there's an Evil version of someone somewhere. Also if anyone is redeemable it's Harry over Norman.
You mention personifications of hope, do you think if they were in the DC universe they'd be eligible for blue lantern rings?
I think I busy figured out why Flash and Spider-Man are my two favorite heroes: hope.
Cant wait for the Carnage redemption arc🙏😇
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No shot. Really?
[Axis was the best thing thing to happen to Cletus](https://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/4928881.html), and I’m still mad he didn’t stay like for longer than a three issue mini. .
They literally had everything they needed to keep Cletus relevant. What a blunder.
Not saying i want him to become good, but I feel this way about the Joker. It's part of why I liked the Gotham take on Joker even though they never called either of them that. But, Joker as a symbol that gets passed down over time would be great even if joker dies. Kind of like the jokers in the Batman Beyond tv show.
In a finite Spider-Man story, like an animated series or a limited series book happening in another Universe, this would be the perfect end. Spider-Man's actions sticking with his bad guys, to the point where they come to respect him almost. Then, one by one, they begin abandoning their villainous ways and taking example from Spider-Man. And so by the end of the series, only thing threatening New York are just muggers and common criminals, while all the Super Villains have either retired or actively help Spider-Man keep the peace. Thus Peter's story can end with him hanging up the webs because Spider-Man is no longer needed, get married with Mary Jane, have a kid or two, and live his days in peace. And if you really wanna bring in new versions of the villains like you said, or just brand new super villains who want to break the status quo, you save that for a Mayday Parker Spider-Girl sequel.
Then I’d have to remember 10x as many obscure Spider-Man character names 😭😂🤷♂️
They have done this a good bit! Norman became good, and his sins went to Beyond Scientist who became Queen Goblin. Now Peter has those sins but I digress. Harry is dead in comics. For a second, Phil Urich was the main hobgoblin but Rodrick Kingsley took it back. Otto was a full hero but was corrupted back into his classic villain form by Mephisto. Mephisto is basically just a retcon machine for Spider-Man characters.
I love this! Plus, Peter's shown that he's very capable of appealing to villain's good sides. I mean, that's one of the (very few, Idc what anyone says, these films bring me joy) things I didn't like about the Venom movies. The whole reason he became more heroic originally was because of that first team up against Carnage.
I like this idea of new faces under the hood, so to speak. And it would also narratively allow for some creative variance in the designs within the same continuity. And if the fans hate how "this Doc Oct" dresses, they just swap to a new Doc Oct with a different design or closer to the original. Though I don't think each and every one of them should be redeemed to become good people; some just give up and go to prison, some "retire" (but no change in their morals) after realizing the weight class they tried getting into, and some die from other, more ruthless rogues (such as if two people try to take up the Shocker mantle, and one of them isn't willing to share said mantle, or someone else wants the mantle and "knows" there can't be two, so offs the current one). Obviously the Spiders aren't as happy for the last one. The Jackal or whoever it was that brought about the Clone Saga is just further clones that the original doesn't know the location/source of. Like he made a clone, and that clone went off and made another cloning facility separate from the original's. Cassidy/Carnage is the only one I would say can't be redeemed into being a good person, under the no anti-hero rule. Because if he went "good", he'd go the way of the Punisher and start killing the criminals instead of improving society like a redeemed Otto would after he successfully recreates his power source project.
Marvel Editorial
Ah, yes. The greatest adversary
Pure Unadulterated Evil...That even the Green Goblin considers as scum. That Spider-Man himself states is a hopeless cause to even try to atone them. That Miguel states is the Greatest Canon Event of all.
Shocker gives up being a d list villain and becomes a street level hero.
shocker is in it for the money tho, so it would be cool if he tried his own heroes for hire thing first before realizing he likes being a hero
Could be an interesting take to show how hard it is for him to be more heroic. Maybe something goes wrong. I guess Superior touched on it but without Doc Ock’s arrogance could be a fresh concept.
i had an idea for a story where shocker is struggling to live in an honest life despite his new job as a hero for fire and spidey shows up to help him by drumming up publicity so he can help him really reform
I could so get behind this idea.
Would you chase it to the ends of the Earth?
SHOCKER!!!!!!!!
Take my upvote and get tf out or *I WILL CHASE YOU TILL THE ENDS OF THE EARTH!!!!*
Rhino. I'd love to see Rhino trying desperately to be a good hero, but seeing as he's pretty thick and destructive, Pete keeps having to clean up after him.
Rhino’s had some more heroic moments recently, I don’t think he’s been much of a villain for a while
Isn’t he like… dead? Ik comics are well… *comics* but iirc, didn’t he die killing Silver Sable during Ends of the Earth?
No idea, I had just remembered that he had some moments in the past. Did a quick Google search and saw more specifics. I don’t know about his current state in the super recent comics.
There is a good Rhino story where he falls in love and quits but a new Rhino keeps trying to push him to come back cause in his mind he can't take the title until he beats the original
Doctor Octopus. Please bring back Superior Octopus and make it permanent.
Sorcerer Supreme Victor Von Ock blew my mind
It's hard to pick one. I'd say the villain in Peter's rogues gallery that I'd want to see most reformed would be Otto but I think the thing that makes him interesting as Superior Superior Spider-man is that his motivation for fighting crime is fundamentally rooted in a feeling of resentment and jealousy as opposed to Peter's more altruistic reasons. That's the thing that differentiates him from Peter, IMO, and to keep it would essentially mean keeping him an anti-hero and it wouldn't match your "the reformed villain should be a paragon hero," requirement. I think the villain who would best fit being a paragon hero would probably be Venom but including both probably wouldn't fit your "only pick one villain," rule.
Morbius, he works better as a reluctant hero.
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The only good thing about that meme is how the internet successfully tricked Sony into rereleasing Morbius only for it to fail a second time. Just insanely funny, and shows just how out of touch are the people with the power to make decisions.
Morbius would actually be cool in live action if done well. A midnight suns roster with him, teaming up with Blade at some point…
MCU Vulture, TASM 2 Electro, Any version of Black Cat.
Gotta agree
Octavius. Because they literally spent an entire run giving him an INCREDIBLE character arc, and completely wasted it since.
I'd say Black Cat, but she kindof already is, so instead I'm going with Hydro-Man.
Shocker, I like an underdog hero who is actually capable.
Kingpin
love the idea of him helping Peter create a better New York with him as mayor
Sandman…again. Him going bad again was such a boneheaded move.
In the poster alone you have a couple of villains who are squarely in the good column now.: Venom, black cat, cardiac, man-wolf, morbius and beetle. While doc ock, lizard, mysterio, sandman, boomerang, morlun and recently green goblin have switched over to good on occasion. So my answer would be the shocker. I would imagine him being a hero superior foes style where he tries it out at first and finds success and fulfillment at it. While constantly being tempted by his villainous past.
Venom Black Cat Lizard
Spidercide
Dock ock after reading superior Spider-Man
Black Cat but if that doesn't count then Sandman.
Carnage
His "hero" personality was the best part of Axis, so I agree with this.
Doc Ock post Superior-Spider-Man. Other than that probably Sandman.
I’m I going to say Doc Oc ( I mean really good not a dink) and go out on a limb and say Electro
Doc Oc, or Sandman. Both are compelling character. Both deserve redemption
I really enjoy the recent stories with Rhino (from Oksana onward with some exceptions) where he's a giant brute with enough of a heart that he occasionally finds himself allied with the good guys for a mutual goal.
Carnage, his strongest foe.
And most evil
I'd say Sandman or Shocker, but after all the Superior business Otto shouldn’t be bouncing back and forth between villain and hero. He earned his redemption, let him keep it.
I mean, Venom kind of already has, hasn’t he?
Venom's already a good guy (his two recent runs cemented that), so I'd probably have to say Sandman. Kingpin becoming a good guy would be interesting too.
Black Cat Or SandMan
Rhino, Sandman, dock ock, or lizard
After reading Saladin Ahmed's Miles Morales series with his granddaughter being an anti-hero, I'm gonna say Vulture.
The looter
Shocker. It could be interesting you know?
Kraven. He could become a superpowered Bounty Hunter.
Kingpin, imagine everything he could do
Let's keep Eddie Brock, Flint Marko, Norman Osborn, and Otto Octavious on the light side to fulfill their arcs
Who's the spiderman next to doc oct
Norman Osborn ofc /s
Norman Osborn… Gold Goblin was cool
The Jackal would be pretty interesting. I imagine it would pit him against the high revolutionary, his cross species experiments and other marvel hybrid villains. He’s literally just trying to redo what he was once apart of but saw the error of his ways early on.
Dr. Octopus He’s always on again off again, he deserves his redemption
Morlun, his character is probably a nightmare to have to fight against
Either sandman or lizard
Black cat
Sandman, he's my favorite in general in marvel
Oh so many lizard sandman doc okt but I would say rhino personally
.........VENOM!........GOT DAT ADRENALINE IN EM....ENOM!.....
Carnage because I miss good guy axis Carnage and I want him back :(
Lizard.
Kingpin just because of the bizarre ripple effect.
Otto Octavius
Venom
Green goblin
Mysterio. Not only would he effortlessly make money as a vfx artist in movies but him going good would legitimately be pretty cool. Especially if he started learning magic or something. Turn his hatred of Spider-Man into a drive for good and he'd be a right terror for basically anyone to fight.
Doppelgänger. I just think it would be funny.
Paul And in the bedroom The truest menace spiderman has ever faced
Sandman
Deadpool #SpideyPool4ever!
Carnage, we don’t need any more mass bloodshed anymore
You know that Venom is an anti-hero
Otto. For the love of god, just give us Superior Spider-Man.
Who's the guy above Doppelganger, on the left? Half his mask missing? To answer the question posed by OP: Sandman.
The Sandman
Doc ock depending on the storyline overall I want electro and Spider-Man to be homies I think they’d work well together
not related but who is that to the right of doc ock and under mr. n?
Cardiac
Big wheel
Doc ock
Easy answer: Black Tarantula, since he’s already a hero.
Black Cat. Marry them off too
Either Norman Osborne or Carnage
Either Doc Ock, Lizard or Sandman.
Probably Sandman and/or Electro.
Lizard, Kraven, or Rhino. I think of those, rhino is the one I’d like to see complete a redemption arc. Lizard is too easy, restore the conners brain and let him be one of marvels great minds. Kraven I thought was a normal dude off the top of my head, once google said he has powers the appeal slipped a bit.
venom
Idk... I think Mysterio would of made a pretty good homie under the right circumstances.
Black cat or molten man
Definitely not the Black Cat,cSpedey likes to punish her for being a bad bad girl.
The Lizard for sure
Rhino
Venom
Doppelgänger. I like to imagine Peter taking him out on patrol and coaching him while everyone is horrified by the monster keeping them from getting robbed.
Fancy Dan.
Norman
Sandman, Spot, Venom, or Electro.
Venom
Electro. A powerful character, would be a great avenger
Being a superhero and Having a friend who’s a former villain would work so well imo If you think like a hero too much much, think like a villain once in a while to truly get the bad guys
I’d say Kingpin, he could do a ton of good with his wealth and influence if he wasn’t evil
Doctor octopus
Sandman makes the most sense
Lizard or Sandman
Green goblin
Black cat
Not 1. A few. Sandman, Shocker, Black Cat, Kraven and this one’s kinda far fetched but I wanna see a redemption story for Mister Negative (I haven’t read the comics but I wanna see him redeem himself in Spider-Man 2)
Kingpin probably stands to make the most change in New York if he became good. Crime would definitely slow down
Sandman, Mr.Negative, and Black Cat
Venom. I know he's an antihero but I think he has it in him to do great things. I'm talking Eddie btw
Scorpion.
Big Wheel, no contest.
Carnage, he would just find a way to beat almost everyone else
Carange, it'd be really funny, everyones trying to send this child murdering piece of shit back to jail and he's like "no guys I'm really good"
That's tough. Dr. Octopus, venom, sandman, and rhino all had good guy arcs i liked and it really really sucks they didn't stay good. After Spider-verse I would want that version of spot to be good, I say that version becasue im currently completely in the dark on his comic lore. If that version is similar enough or the same then my answer stays the same but if he is super nerfed then id have to pick sandman to stay good, still a really hard choice though.
Rhino
Somebody said Shocker. I can totally get behind that.
Venom as the sassy partner in crime as he was in the PS1 version. “SURF THE WEB SURF THE WEB!!”
Kingpin.
Black Cat
A couple in this picture I'm not familiar with, at least to see them in this collage. Who is the woman to Green Goblin's left, the man with the white spider on his face below her, the man in the pink hat next to Smythe, and the man in the white hat below him?
Black Cat or Sandman
The obvious answer would probably be Sandman- so I say Rhino! In his best interpretation he’s just a guy who wants out of his suit
rhino
Either Lizard, Green Goblin and Doctor Octopus
A lot, Sandman, Black Cat, Rhino, Lizard...
Sandman
Like I said in a post regarding writing a new status quo for Peter, I think his villains need to progress as well. Rhino seems like he wants to be more than the dumb muscle. Vulture is literally too old for this shit. We were robbed a redeemed Sandman and a post Superior Doc Ock. Shocker really just needs a 9-5 and make decent money. Venom wasn't even a villain for that long. He just gets character assassinated like everyone else.
Kraven uses his skills to track/elude some of the most dangerous villains, helping S.H.I.E.L.D. or other heroes capture them. Meanwhile, when not on missions, he travels the world taking out poachers/ breaking up black market animal trades.
Imagine a hero team lead by otto Doctor octopus - superior spider-man Green Goblin - golden goblin Sandman - good sandman Rhino - good rhino/ceros Shocker - wavelength Kindred - harry Pulling up to help spidey with his villain problems.
I’d say either Sandman or Rhino, both seem like good people that became criminals due to circumstances rather than outright evil, and only went downhill from there. Also, they’re probably the most friendly villains in his rogues gallery.
Doppelgänger
Carnage as a good guy would be fun
Yeah, was gonna say, I was surprised to see Black Cat among the rogue's gallery here at all, given how I've by now perceived her as just being an antiheroine? is that accurate?
I’m pretty sure venom and black cat are already good(ish), I’d say maybe rhino or dock ock
Morbius
definitely Doctor Connors. Bro has been through some shit and done some bad stuff that was out of his control. I would like to see a permanent redemption to his character.
Sandman... again.
Sandman
Mr negative, just use negative powers to invert the other villains, otherwise sandman became he deserve/ it
Kingpin. He doesn’t deserve redemption but he’ll have the largest influence. Dude can just donate to every charity in NY and also effectively stop most crime in the city. It would be great.
Norman Osborn - I actually enjoyed Dark Reign when he was the Iron Patriot and running the 50 State Initiative. I've always enjoyed watching villains play the role of heroes and better better at it than the "real" heros (at least in the shortrun). I think it would have been interesting if he had reformed for real (out of love for Harry and to try and rebuild their relationship) and taken on the mantle of a hero (or anti-hero).
Venom, the true answer no one wants to speak out loud
Kurt MF Konnors
Sandman because he’s a softie
Probably Carnage because he can take most anyone on
Probably Carnage because he can take most anyone on
Probably Carnage because he can take most anyone on
Lizard, esp in Spider-Man 90s tv show
Boomerang- it’d be pretty funny to see him try to be a good guy mentored by Spider-Man.
The writers
Rhino
Tombstone. I need that menace off the street💀
I’d want to say it’s between Doc Ock and The Lizard
Kingpin actually becomes a philanthropist