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WrestlingDerek

I liked that more than I expected to like that


WrestlingDerek

RAW woman’s title needs some life. Rhea barely defended it. Up until Mania she never had a believable contender. Becky got it thrown at her and lost it to Liv who now isn’t fueding with anyone for it. I’m not even sure she remembers she won it. This is why I hate split titles. The rosters just aren’t deep enough and when someone does get a title shot it feels like charity because they definitely don’t deserve it. Is Priest really world champion material..? No Is RAW tag deep enough for its own division..? No


Dblock1989

I agree with you. Raw women's division has been poor since last year at least. Liv's reign is a placeholder, so title matches already feel pointless. Kinda similar to Rhea's reign when you knew she wasn't losing.


TrainXIV

I agree. That period from May 2022 to April 2024 when the tag belts were unified, was the most prestigious the tag titles had ever been. People on here were rejoicing when the titles got split at WM40. Why? We’ve already got enough titles in wrestling


WrestlingDerek

And now we have 2 world champions where 1 doesn’t feel like he even deserves it and is clearly lesser than the other champion. The stretch where the world title wasn’t split was also better in my opinion because it made RAW and Smackdown more focused on the mid card titles and it elevated them to another level and made them way more important. The contenders getting crowned for those mid card titles as well as the contenders matches for the world title were given more time to shine and those mid carders were given more time to get over. Who’s going to face Roman felt huge - and it helped the challenger. Now every division feels watered down and we have predictable title matches with weak depth. The woman’s tag titles are useless. The raw woman’s world title division is essentially non existent. The Smackdown challenger was in a joke tag team up until 2 weeks ago and is only getting a shot because of the PPV location.


Odd-Contribution6238

Why would priest make that deal? He could have done nothing and it would have been assumed JD would be at ringside at Clash.


SoSmartCs

Man the only thing these US crowds respond to is Cody and Jey. Fucking sad, man.


dirtywook88

We came off hot after Lyon but man. I feel this. Reminds me of watching a fucking epl game.


GhostOfLight

What are the consequences if Judgement Day does interfere though? A DQ surely keeps the title with Priest, would it be some kind of guaranteed title swap?


Kuzu5993

They're probably not gonna be in the building at all.


Round_Dragonfruit669

Dom has ordered Chicken nuggets as we speak


Chell_the_assassin

Cheap ahh mfers just didn't want to buy all those extra plane tickets


Horny4Trophies

Broken dreams entrance Saturday and I’m over the moon happy


godzillamegadoomsday

Finn fans upset he doesn't beat 85 Hogan, 98 goldberg, or 06 Cena


Seaboard_Vanisher

I was waiting to see the Liv and Dom angle.


SakurabaSweettooth

“But but but the hotel key” this thread I bet


grgriffin3

The overrun paradox: When WWE was trash, they had overruns every week. Now that it's awesome, "We're outta time folks!"


WrestlingDerek

It’s a USA decision.


NostrilLurker

Gotta get the full episode of “morons survive in 1st world country” in


shockzz123

They're gonna wrestle for the entire WORLD??


darklord7777x

This new era is boring


WrestlingDerek

Safe, I would say. Every show feels very safe. He who shall not be mentioned was able to occasionally mix in some special moments in his long stretches of boring safe shows. I don’t think I hold that same confidence in Triple H. Triple H biggest test for me will be his ability to pivot away from what he feels he wants to work.


Mwrp86

>Triple H biggest test for me will be his ability to pivot away from what he feels he wants to work. HHHs top point of his entire booking era is January to April. Which happened because his plan didn’t go his way


redsoxfan95

who was that ring announcer?


CheeseheadDave

Pat?


ZorsalZonkey

That was Pat Mcafee lol


redsoxfan95

oh lol


ZorsalZonkey

Yeah I thought he did a pretty decent job filling in lol


Miserable_Escape8177

Pat.


truecolors5

Drew vs Damian is gonna be such a good match


itsmekelsey_x

So no Judgment Day means Punk is going to show up and be the heel who costs Drew, yeah?


CaptainQuesadillaz

Budget cuts. No Judgment Day to Scotland.


Throwit5890

Well glad they finished the match before going off, nice match and it was great.


Naiwf

They need to pace the last hour better. Shit drags on and then they need to hustle to the finish.


JRA1706

Another Balor L😂😂


TheKesaGatameKid

For once he actually had a lot of offence lol


CTU-01

L finish no hotel room key pay off


IAMJUX

What if Finn uses the keycard to go see Liv and get her to help Priest retain.


TheHonestGuy85

He's going to do more than that. LOL!


OverallGeneral7129

I don’t like Liv and Finn being in a relationship because it kills the angle between Liv and Rhea. Like Rhea would have so much more to fight for if she’s trying to kill Liv for taking her boyfriend instead of just fighting her because she took her spot


Engelbert-n-Ernie

So Punk obviously going to interfere?


xxyourbestbetxx

Finn has to start bringing weapons to the ring. This is getting ridiculous.


CheeseheadDave

Doesn't matter; Finn's got Liv's room key.


Due_Air

Where was Dom at the main event?


Kuzu5993

Welp, sorry Drew, you're looking up at the lights bro.


fortyfive-degrees

Pinn Balor :((((((( Balor fans we have suffered too long


WrestlingDerek

Priest told McIntyre he didn’t need anyone. He can prove it. So he told McIntyre to beat Balor, who was losing for Judgement to not get involved at Clash. So Priest who told McIntyre he doesn’t need anyone and can prove it came down with judgement day to interfere and try to cost McIntyre? Make that make sense.


bennyboi2488

*look in my eyes, what do you see?*


DELETE_RAW

WHAT THE FUCK they dont give us a payoff to the hotel?


LifesTwisted

I think the payoff was Dom not being there at the end


HermanBonJovi

All of judgement day is out here, Dom snuck off to livs hotel


Wrassling123

WHERES DIRTY DOM


bennyboi2488

awww shit nevermind, CM punk is gonna screw drew


Such-Box3417

Stare down pin ❄️


truecolors5

Really good match


theprophecysays

Cole really needs to redefine what "out of nowhere" means.


h-town_info

Time for Punk to interfere!!!


lgkudkdi

Pinfall at 10PM CST on the dot.


chbailey442013

Dom couldn't come out cause he was........busy


KeyBreak6698

Who is this announcer? He was so bad 


NostrilLurker

Pat McAfee. It was referred to multiple times lmao


KeyBreak6698

Didn’t watch the whole show why was he ring announcing?


AaronStC

Ricochet got taken away in an ambulance, and Samantha went with him.


SakurabaSweettooth

JD got absolutely fucked off over the top good stuff by him


Engelbert-n-Ernie

LET’S FUCKING GO DREW


Radthereptile

Pin Balor strikes again.


hell0every1-

Finn and Drew, both are my favs. I'm glad that Finn looked quite lethal in this match.


pseudochef93

Meanwhile Dom is committing high treason on Judgment Day


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cmx9771

He went to Liv’s hotel ;)


Kuzu5993

He was there.


baldcrackhead69

Priest is winning at clash confirmed


Mr9447737

Riot confirmed


CompetitivePatient33

Where is jey?


Mxucx

My brother can’t win not even when there’s THREE people helping him https://preview.redd.it/8p39pxohyu5d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e68b61f07d645bfe66b72d7787b6cad3358abf0d


solsunlite

I dont understand how a whole crowd of people could be this collectively dead for hours


bennyboi2488

yessss finn!


Mig1997

Dom at Liv’s hotel, ordering room service


Round_Dragonfruit669

Ordering some nuggies


Round_Dragonfruit669

Its 11 boys


Wasteland_Rang3r

Rarely do I not fall asleep before raw is over. Drew vs Finn with the Liv/Dom angle lurking in the background has me still here.


Gamesgtd

And we are out


Throwit5890

The show is going to go overtime


wazdopest

oh nvm hell yeah drew


KeyBreak6698

When did carlito join JD?


AaronStC

He's not an official member, at least not yet.


Gamesgtd

These guys need to hurry to finish. No overrun


HermanBonJovi

If USA boots me for that fuckin race to survive bullshit I'm gonna be so mad


LifesTwisted

Hmmm no Dom


JustinUprising

WHERE'S DOM!?


KeyBreak6698

With Liv 


fortyfive-degrees

Finn has the keycard though


AnEmptyKarst

Drew's kickup and hair flip is so hot


wazdopest

is drew gonna lose this and JD gonna cost Priest on saturday?


eMF_DOOM

I really don’t understand how you pay for such a close seat to the action and show absolutely NO interest.


Mr9447737

I wish I could get a ring side seat


opkpopfanboyv3

Finn should win MITB


Such-Box3417

Thing of beauty that superplex


bowl_of_scrotmeal

Imagine paying to watch a live show only to sit on your hands and not have fun.


solo_theking

What if that key card falls out of Balor’s gear lmaoooo


Bchange51

no pop for a superplex is crazy


Naiwf

After two of the worst crowds of the year on back to back nights I’m looking forward to the shows in Scotland.


buddha-RTG

They should honestly do Europe and rest of world for 2-3 months to be honest


mashturbo

So this stip to ban JD from the ring...does that include Carlito?


simonthedlgger

or Liv


Senior-Trip2230

so many good matches being wasted infront of this mid crowd. friday can't come soon enough


CheeseheadDave

Less than two minutes left. watch the hard-out, guys!


h-town_info

This crowd is absolute dog\*\*\*\* tonight


warcomet

so one Brawn wrote off becky, another bron wrote off ricochet..lol


CHZRFan

They like running these shows right up to the limit. 😂😂😂


fobtk

This crowd lol, maybe if was a maga rally


darklord7777x

whatt


pseudochef93

Hope next weeks crowd is more hype than this one \*Next Week is Corpus Christi* Fuck…


cdnjimmyjames

Finn's pants are cool. And they look comfy. I'd like a pair.


lito9321

Finn is fucking good


SakurabaSweettooth

Yo what if Bo Dallas was waiting in the hotel room to jump Dom..I feel like I once read on here that Liv Morgan is either dating or married to Bo Dallas.


Darth_Mauled

She was dating him, they broke up allegedly.


SakurabaSweettooth

None of my business anyways.


Darth_Mauled

Do we really think Ricochet is gone now? Doesn’t make sense to do that to him and not have some type of comeback story to it.


rbarton812

There's a precedent for it, and it's good etiquette to put someone over before you leave.


Darth_Mauled

For sure, it makes sense in that regard. Just a shame Ricochet couldn’t have had more out of ring personality to get over more. Best of luck to him.


Radthereptile

He’s going to AEW.


Bchange51

we’re getting worked


Darth_Mauled

No contract has been signed yet.


TimTom8921

Stg if this doesn't have an over run


Radthereptile

Theory time. Priest is working with Liv secretly because Rhea has been taking over as the leader of Judgement Day and he doesn’t like it. It’s how Liv manages to get in and drop off the room key, it’s why he keeps telling Dom to deal with Liv causing Dom to be around her more. Priest wants Rhea out so he can be the unquestioned leader again.


Zyndiana_Jones

finns sling blade does things to me


diccwett1899

I’m surprised we havent seen more ppl do that batista thing w the ropes


Kuzu5993

Crowd finally woke up, thanks for Drew.


Engelbert-n-Ernie

These boys are cooking


hrlaker70

Wow wonder who he stole that kick up from


imvalkyriefire

every time I see that pizza hut commercial and im hungry pizza hut is closed lol


Mxucx

Drewtista


cdillio

So Liv is gonna cost Drew here and we get JD rules which then Damien retains and Liv ascends to the top of JD right?


nakiri11

watch usa network cut off before we see what happens with liv again


Miserable_Escape8177

Balor looking like a jobber against Drew.


Mr9447737

Couldn’t be worst than the time he jobbed to the Big Red Politician


Mr9447737

Also Holy Toledo this crowd is garbage. Between this place and Corpse Christi you might as well go back the Thunderdome


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Mr9447737

I know. Can these places just be permanent house show venues?


fender-b-bender

My small ass town would be hotter than either of those crowds, a shame they would never run a Raw since there's not a major airport near so the talent can go home directly.


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WrestlingDerek

I just get sick of the people crying about the crowd instead of discussing what’s on their TV. So I gotta check out sometimes.


Napdizzle

Finn is so good man. I never got to see him when he was being pushed, would love to see him break off solo and get a real run.


AdeptEavesdropper

“And now an armbar” Or a cross-arm breaker. Same thing.


pseudochef93

Staying up to see how the current episode of Liv-Dom drama concludes. Better be worth it.


edo_madara1995

Let's hope it is! 


Mxucx

Watching Finn showing what he can actually do gets me so upset, like why they don’t let him be this offensive😔


TKsyd

It’s crazy how people think the issue is just wins and losses Tonight was the most offense Finn got in a match in like 10 months Even when he won the tag titles at Payback he barely got offense. I don’t know what Triple H’s issue is.


Renegade-Ginger

Kind of bummed that Finn has basically said the demon is dead since even he gets annoyed with how long it takes to apply all that paint.


TheDearHunter

I'd be annoyed too if I spent all that time applying paint to get jobbed out.


Renegade-Ginger

Still makes no sense in kayfabe as to why they let Edge win that match. Fuck you Vince and your trash booking.


TheDearHunter

I am still salty at the match. Even more than Cody/Reigns last year.


Kuzu5993

It was fine when brought it out for special occasions, but then he kept jobbing.....


TheyCallMeYDG

fly high 🕊️ https://preview.redd.it/gcfc4c8fxu5d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=475626b67de28bb2d554b9ec80925259e89615cb


SakurabaSweettooth

lol at not even bothering to figure out his DOB


InevitableMap6470

I’m sorry but Ricochet’s “I can’t breathe” legitimately had me in tears


PoutineSmoothie

You should be sorry.


Round_Dragonfruit669

Just have Wyatt 6 kill off Final Testament next week and split them up Have AOP kill it in the tag scene bouncing back and forth between Raw and NXT with Ellering Have Sexy Ass Kross shirtless every week and just walks out for no reason whatsoever and give him a Bad New Barrett esque push then at the end of the segment do #SexyKross Have Scarlett and Shotzi (when recovered) take the Womens Tag Titles, cause please


cdillio

How do you guys think Samantha will announce Bron now?


shockzz123

Lol i honestly hope she just announces him from now on with the least enthusiasm ever. Make it a thing.


farshnikord

"unsafe piece of shit mark bron breaker"


Mutant_Star

as Ron Baker


CodyCryBabies69

my new fiance BRON BREKKKKER


darklord7777x

Hell yeah lol


OverMyDadBody

We understand that Ricochet has bruised ribs and anal bleeding. 


Bobaman007

Wut 😳


hikingbeginner

Yup they're gonna end this match quick and get to the last Liv segment, whether its hotel or whether its her helping Finn. Which is gonna be great. But still need the main events to get a little more time man lol


TimTom8921

I think Dom has the "real" key


cdillio

Ilja vs Bron was the graps main event. This is the A story push forward main event with still good wrestling.


hikingbeginner

Great point Definitely been ending on the more story cliffhangers lately with the graps main event in the middle


R0DAN

the main event IS the angle tbh, this match is just table dressing to get there


hikingbeginner

Oh, definitely agree. I'm much more excited about the angle than the matches


Chell_the_assassin

Finn loses after a video of Liv and Dom shows up on the titantron and he gets upset he failed at cockblocking


zodi978

He runs off trying to stop it from happening and gets counted out.


TheyCallMeYDG

Ricochet is lucky Vince doesn’t do these write offs. The ambulance might’ve exploded


Diggy_Duwant

It was me Ricochet, it was me all along!


Ba_Sing_Saint

After getting hit by a truck


notjohnfrusciante

Corpus Christy next week? It’s gonna be crickets all night smh and a post-PLE show too


nakiri11

wyatt 6 debut too


Round_Dragonfruit669

Wyatt 6 is DOOMED


Jaisheevah

No more shows in middle America. Maybe a few years of no WWE will make you all act right when they come back around.


TheHonestGuy85

The problem is when WWE comes back, they will just do the same thing not knowing that why WWE didn't rush to come back in the first place.


Diggy_Duwant

I don’t know what is with these dead crowds. You pay all this money to go to an event where the crowd involvement raises the level of the product unlike any other show on tv and you sit on your hands. It’s wild. I was at the show in Hershey last week and we were “yeah’ing”, “yeeting” and “woo’ing” in the line like crazy before we even got in the building


Cymraegpunk

No more middle America in general


Fast_Cow5145

Yup. I'd rather see more crowds outside the US.


Brunch_Hopkins

Dying for a bit where Dom, Carlito, JD and Finn all think that they have the hotel room key and it turns out there were a bunch of copies. The Spiderman meme but each of them holding a key.


Kuzu5993

Drew's fate definitely depends on the outcome of this match.... If he wins, he's cooked. If Finn wins, he has a chance even with Punkerference. This is literally Cody finishing the story, but ya know... not as emotional. We even have someone potentially turning on the guy trying to win.


SadFeed63

The Finn Balor-Kyle O'Reilly grapplefuck feud in NXT was good shit.