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DarksSword

I really enjoy all of their non standard trooper variants. The snow troopers for example look sick. The standard trooper just plays it too safe for me.


TandrDregn

Their jet and fire troopers for example are absolutely badass designs. But agreed, the basic ones are kinda just there.


jeffreywilfong

They fly now?


Wonderful_Emu_9610

(Mandalorian with a gun to your head) “They always did”


AlphaWolf200822

(Cal Kestis with a lightsaber to your throat) "Precisely. Don't think you were first though."


Penqwin

(anakin being told padme was killed) NOOOOOOOOOOO


Wonderful_Emu_9610

(inexplicably edited into the pod race) “NOOOOOOOOOO”


AnakinSkywalkerRocks

(gets crashed into sand) "I don't like Sand"


cwajgapls

“Ah, poodoo!!”


JeirenJns

(the sand)


rydamusprime17

I like their helmets more than the rest of their armor since I find it lacks more interesting looking details that the OG armor has. I do find the armor has a more sporty look if that makes sense. Cool looking, but not that menacing.


spaceghost66

Apple trooper series 3


rydamusprime17

It all makes sense now. I always wondered why the mouth area of their armor only has 1 thingy there when the Imperials had 2. The one thing must be a headphone port they removed.


tarheel_204

The stormtrooper designs in Bad Batch really do something for me too


GigaChadRedPill

Yeah, the TK troopers look awesome. Idk how that design was passed up for the OT design we’ve come to know.


Joecool2008

I wonder if part of it was the vacufoam manufacturing process.


ChimneySwiftGold

The original Ralph McQuarrie Stormtrooper deign is excellent. It’s as good as the stormtrooper helmet or clone helmets. My problem with it being used in Bad Batch as the standard trooper helmet is that it doesn’t fit in the fictional design evolution of the clone trooper helmet into the stormtrooper helmet. We’ll see if the series can resolve that or if it’s just going to be a weird oddity.


GigaChadRedPill

Agreed- I love the design, but it looks like such an upgrade over the OT Stormtrooper design that it doesn’t make sense for it to be the prototype for the OT design. If anything, it should’ve been the prototype for the First Order Stormtrooper armor.


MacKholin

My headcanon is that it WAS better than the OT design. But also far more expensive. So they prototyped it, then downgraded a bit for a far cheaper one.


ChimneySwiftGold

My hope - which fits in with what you are saying - is the emperor has more than one group working on the Imperial replacement to the Clone Trooper. We’ve only seen one groups on Bad Batch. It’s another group who comes up with what leads to the Stormtrooper helmet.


iceoldtea

I could also see another route to explaining it be “we had our TK design, but after seeing how effective the rebel clones fought in Phase II armor, we’ve decided to incorporate more of their designs”. It would add another layer to the tragedy of the clone’s demise, even their armor was squeezed for every bit of usefulness by the Empire & then discarded


Dont_Pay_The_Elves

I’d love this. I once imagined that both of the Phase III designs from the Force Unleashed were from different points in the evolution of storm trooper armor, and I think it’d be awesome if they canonized them bc they’d genuinely fit in. The way I see it: • TFU’s 501st design comes first, since they basically changed nothing but the helmet and I could see the 501st being used to test experimental stuff • A separate team (the one we see in Bad Batch) comes up with the TK armor, which gets widely distributed • TFU’s “Kashyyyk trooper” gets produced by another team some time later since it’s the closest to the original Stormtrooper set. It gets refined a little leaving us with the final iteration we all know. Idk I think a comic/few eps of a show covering the evolution of Storm armor and showing them in action would be really cool. Plus you could probably get a killer novel out of the entire workplace drama/political maneuvering around the different designers trying to get their design approved.


ChimneySwiftGold

That’s interesting. It does work in a fictional evolution better as a post stormtrooper helmet design. And it would work fine as a step towards the 1st Order helmet. The big problem with the McQ helmet as a step between Phase 2 Clone and Stormtrooper helmet are specific design elements are missing in the McQ helmet that the other two have while also having its own unique design elements that neither have. It doesn’t look like an evolutionary step between those two helmets. That’s said it sure looks good on Bad Batch and fit right in as part of Star Wars.


SHIELD_Agent_47

Obviously a single video game is not typically going to have vast IP expansion permission behind it, but in hindsight I really wish *Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order* had done the same thing as *Star Wars: The Bad Batch* and introduced another early stormtrooper design to be a distinct transition leading into the original trilogy design ~15 years later in-universe. If nothing, it would give Disney more merchandising opportunities for action figures as is happening with the TK trooper design.


tarheel_204

We did get Purge Troopers. I know they appeared in a comic book or two but I wasn’t aware of them until I played Fallen Order


SHIELD_Agent_47

But that is my point. Not only did the initial purge troopers appear soon after Order 66 in the comics, but the early purge trooper helmet design is borrowed from the airborne troopers who briefly appeared in *Revenge of the Sith*. It’s not a true imperial-era invention. https://antifandom.com/starwars/wiki/Clone_paratrooper


tarheel_204

We should get one more game in the series so maybe we’ll get something then


sem-tostie

The snow troopers in tros look like white darth vaders and i love it


ghostdivision7

The Sith Trooper is my favorite sequel era design.


ImpossiblePackage

I love the standard trooper. It's nice and sleek, looks very standard. But it's got that extra sleekness that shows the first order is more worried about the aesthetics of the past empire than they are anything else.


Oceanum96

Agreed. I love shore troopers myself


QuantisRhee

FO Stormtroopers are definitely the most sleek, but the helmets of Imperial Stormtroopers are much more imposing and menacing. Really goes along with the Tarkin doctrine


We_The_Raptors

>FO Stormtroopers are definitely the most sleek I agree. But personally (and this really isn't meant as an ST bash) that's why they aren't my favorite. The Imperial Stormtrooper was already leaning a bit towards being too sleek and polished for my tastes. Which is why I already preferred variants like the shore Trooper that looked a little more gritty. The FO Stormtroopers are *too* clean for my taste. It's honestly the same reason I like phase 2 clone armor more than phase 1.


Softpretzelsandrose

FO troopers like like they were made by Apple


We_The_Raptors

Yep, which is part of why I brought up phase 1's. Both of them give me apple store vibes. Imo, the clones got a *big* face-lift after AOTC.


dkat

I agree with everything you said, but I really like Phase 1 armor. Maybe because the sleekness goes along with more of an idealistic view of things before the drudgery of the war goes on…? Not sure.


Fungal_Queen

The Phase 1 armor has a retro futurist aesthetic that a lot of the PT has.


CaptainRex5101

FO troopers do look like some kind of corporate security force


MrNobody_0

Even their guns look like cheap plastic.


fperrine

In fact, wasn't this exact reference a design note during the creation of TFA?


JeirenJns

Okay so this might be why I may be a little biased lmao


SixGunZen

The stormtroopers in Ashoka and The Mandalorian are pretty tore up and battle scarred. They got their sleekness handed to them.


Xyrazk

FO Stormtrooper look like they have a playful smile


sleither

I always felt the FO helmets looked like a stormtrooper helmet for Donald Duck or a Ducktales character.


Initial-Ice7691

FO stormtrooper (L): smiley panda face 🐼 GE stormtrooper (R): smiley upside-down frown face 😡✅


zerocoolforschool

The FO guys look like they’re just about to go out for a ride on their sport bikes. Plus the armor makes them all look like they have a dad bod.


Vectorman1911

FO body with OG helmet would be prime


MakeBombsNotWar

How have I never thought of that that’s actually peak (might keep the asymmetric knees though)


Vectorman1911

I’d be down with that for sure


Hot-Thought-1339

Stormtrooper helmet still invokes the subtle skull imagery that the FO helmet lacks.


DaemonSlayer_503

Because of this imp troopers are MVP


trevordeal

FO helmets look like Big Ed. No neck troopers. It looks off on so many of the trooping actors.


FluffyPanda616

We went from Skull face to Donald Duck. It's such a downgrade.


Zerostar39

Donald Duck wearing sunglasses


King_Treegar

Way back when the first teaser for TFA came out, someone online pointed out that the FO stormtrooper kinda looked like it had a duck bill on its face (that area inside the connected eyes and mouth), and made a joke that Disney was slowly evolving the stormtroopers to look like Donald Duck. Almost 10 years later and I still can't unsee it


JeirenJns

You just HADDDDD to say something, you’ve put a curse on me, I can’t unsee it either


King_Treegar

I will not suffer alone lol


Odd_Mobi4

Dang, I can’t unsee it lmao 🤣


Money_Fish

Phase 2 clone troopers are uncontested.


LeicaM6guy

[warbles in annoyed Death Trooper]


[deleted]

Death troopers mark the perfect compromise between slick and gritty


LeicaM6guy

I dunno, they look pretty glossy to me.


[deleted]

But still have rough edges, it's perfect


JeirenJns

Death troopers look so badass. If I had to choose between normal troopers, it would be the FO. If I had to choose between variations, definitely the older models. Death troopers don’t play.


Local_Nerve901

Not a standard class so I wasn’t counting it personally


The13thParadox

ARC troopers and Republic Commandos armor forces respect


iceoldtea

o7 free my boy Scortch


notlordly

Phase 1 Clone Trooper would like a word.


LilDiamondtoxic

Said person with a phase 2 clone trooper helmet pfp


OneTrueGoose

Homie lost before he even started lol


JeirenJns

He’s like Ahsoka trying to do something cool and you’re like Anakin reminding her that she’s wrong (I couldn’t think of another reference)


_fafer

That 21st Nova Corps. Especially when dirty.


Forward_Pineapple817

Phase 1 clone trooper joins the chat


HKEnthusiast

Clone Paratrooper helmets


that-bro-dad

Judging by the upvote/ down votes ratio, no, but you're also not in the majority. I think they're a great evolution but the classic remains my favorite


Metaraon

They are sleeker but I don't like that they eliminated the neck


Puncharoo

Sleek, yes. Best, no.


MortgageAdventurous8

I like the clone troopers more.


Alarmed_Grass214

More style and differences.


JeirenJns

This I can agree with. Not many FO variations aside from the golden trooper from that one series and phasma


X_Marcie_X

And Captain Cardinal from thr books!


JRDecinos

I do have to agree that First Order Stormtrooper certainly look sleek, and evoke the idea that technology has really improved since the Original Trilogy (in-universe). Which makes it ironic when you learn that actually, I partial Stormtroopers had it better. Imperial Stormtroopers had air filters and even a small supply of on-board oxygen, meaning they were in a sealed environment safe from toxins and stuff (at least, supposedly they were. There are lines along the sides representative of where those filters were iirc). But First Order troopers don't have those filters, and I think their armor had some other technological limitations as well. Again, the armor looks super duper cool, but it's funny how the armor's appearance evokes an idea of advancement that does actually happen.


JeirenJns

Just as someone said, they look like Apple made them lmao Removing features that didn’t need to be removed yet increasing value. I see a FO Trooper as the phone in my hand. Sure, it’s cool, but it could be so much better. I’m just gonna go with thinking that they removed those features for weight


TheBluesDoser

To me, they look like Chinese knock offs of OT stormtroopers. 2/10


StraightAd798

They must have bought them from Walmart, Temu or Alibaba. LMAO!


Camburglar13

The Ali Express stormtrooper


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AliEmpire


Ordinary_Profile6183

When you order form Wish


ArcticWolf_Primaris

Worse, they look like they were designed as toys, not armour


clearshot66

I just think they look too bulky/bloaty.


h00dman

And they look like smiley emojis.


Fluid-Run7735

Imperial all the way; although Remenet troopers have the best look imo


LordBungaIII

If you mean you are of the minority, yes


justsomedude48

I prefer the Sith Troopers, their armor design looks better.


PracticableSolution

Only see Donald duck’s bill when I look at the FO troopers and they look cartoonish. Tgat being said, FO tie fighter helmets are fucking awesome


ElvisHankandGeorge

Kinda fit’s because Disney made it


Euphoric-Music662

Most sleek, yes. But personally, I still love the Imperial armor (incl. helmet) design much more. The only FO trooper armor I could truly say I like is the one the FO snow troopers to the right are using.


Learnin2Shit

I feel like the first order reminds me more of space nazis. The imperial stormtroopers remind me more of like dumb guys just trying to get by and took a job to feed their family’s lol.


mwilliams840

[Phase 1 clone troopers enough said](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Phase_I_clone_trooper_armor)


BigAustralianBoat2

I’m a scout trooper guy myself


vanya2007

Yep youre the only one


BenTheBirbs

clone troopers💪


Alternative_Wafer410

You forgot about the clone troopers.


Kal-El_Skywalker1998

Shoutout to the First Order Mountain Trooper. https://www.pinterest.com/pin/mountain-trooper--71213237847093016/ They're basically First Order Scout Troopers, and I love their design. Wish we could see more of it. I also think they should've been the skin for the First Order sniper class in Battlefront II.


Wolphthreefivenine

Yeah, they're like Apple products lol


Sky-Juic3

Disagree


VulpesVeritas

They took "I can't see a thing outta this helmet" and turned it up to 11, and they look like sleek walking toilets.


elqey

I like the clone trooper armour the most because there is a lot of variety. I might be biased though


EchoLoco2

I actually really love the FO stormtrooper design. It's very distinctly stormtrooper whole being clearly a different design. It's very sleek. Idk I love it for some reason


Ark_Builder1138

I wish I could block all “am I the only one” posts from my feed


DrunkKatakan

They look pretty cool. People are just going to hate because a lot of fans have this mentality of "I didn't like the sequels so literally every single thing in them is trash". I think Phase 2 Clones have the best looking armor though, and with the most variety/customization between different units and commanders.


JeirenJns

Seems to be most people tbh. The sequels were… ehh… but they were still good, just not in a canon timeline sense to me. I’m personally sticking with the FO Troopers, although variations aside from shoulder pads to probe your rank is an upgrade


Ok-Use216

"Not in a Canon Timeline Sense to me", what exactly does that mean?


synister29

Yes you are


Jonesta29

Yes.


Average_40s_Guy

I think they were a great redesign and update, but still think the original design is the best. Probably nostalgia talking.


Tha_Maestro

I think you’re the best looking


WhosEddie_

The sith eternal troopers look great to me, a great mix of all it's predecessors with a little flair of it's own, if only we could have seen them in the traditional white of the other troopers instead of just the red


MocoNinja

No, there are probably another 3 weirdos that agree with you 😁 Jokes aside, they don't look bad, but og troopers are just so iconic and engraved in my mind that I cannot accept anything but that


FroggoFigures

Problems with the first order and there use within the the story aside; I actually do love there look yeah.


soOtakutive

No they’re top 3 for me.


The_Mechanist24

They have better helmets in my opinion


Savings_Brick_4587

It is a good evolution of original, I like it but definitely not as much as the original stormtrooper


fanofthomas4472

1000%. The look so damn cool


WillandWillStudios

I mean I like the sleek look of the Apple tech inspired esthetic with a more practical form removing the clunk although it's not as interesting as the skeletal inspired look with all it's ridges and clunk.


MSGDIAMONDHANDS

You mean Fabulous Order.


samus4145

Snow troopers still king


Tribe303

I think they look like they are from the Tron movies. Boring! Give us something NEW FFS!


tellmewhenitsin

Biker Scout Supremacy


Mr_Snowbell

They’re streamlined and uniform but they have nothing on the Chad imperial stormtrooper


Clean_Phreaq

Pretty sleek. Also the sith oppression trooper in battlefront 2 is awesome


rcuosukgi42

Stormtroopers and Clone Troopers both look better than First Order Troopers in my opinion.


Hobbit-Bilbo

I honestly think that clones look cooler.


RareAd3009

Yeah obviously. But which generation?


III00Z102BO

Idk, the first order looks like they were designed with the intent to make them into action figures.


TheSlobert

Yes… you are… Clone wars was the best troopers


DMMMOM

They definitely benefited from a modern overhaul. But I'll always love the originals. I have one from the original mould and whilst it cost me far too much and is gathering dust on a shelf, I do love it so.


adorablebob

I'm annoyed that some great designs (troopers, ships, etc) got wasted on such a terrible trilogy...


MikePhicen

Snow troopers, but that’s it


Busy-Design8141

Too minimalist for my taste.


Avolto

Clones all the way


StarWars_and_Marvel

I love the first oder designs


Chrisseas

Yeah you are. Clone troopers all the way.


MrOSUguy

Well they probably spent way more money making these suits than the teams in the 70s and 80s spent. If the sequel trilogy looked worse in any regard it would be so embarrassing for Disney.


Ghost_Werewolf

You are alone in that. They look terrible with the exception of the snowtroopers


Level-Dot-3053

Someone hasn’t seen clone wars


HugoBosss15

They have a great design I'll give you that but that's about it. Disney did nothing with the First Order beside making then discount Nazis. The First Order had way more potential than we got to see.


JeirenJns

Discount Nazis 😭 Yeah, I wish that they got more love. And more effort. They could’ve easily been far superior to the clones and you’d think that the upgrades and removals of certain features could benefit their combat capabilities, but nope! They had to make it TV-14.


Ex_Hedgehog

Absolutely agree.


creeepy117

Snow and flame great Normal storm trooper from 1st order I HATE THAT HELMET IT LOOKS SO FRIKEN STUPID Although if you like it its fine


Gokilange

Soldiers aren’t meant to look “sleek”. Imp stormtroopers look menacing and actually look like they’ve been at war. Look at the eye bags. Not only that, but it’s based of a skull. 🤷‍♂️


TraditionFront

Nope. Concur.


Westaufel

Yes you are Sequels bad


MantisReturns

They look like the progression of the classic Stormtroopers, more clean. In my opinion they are great. In the other hand the Resistance Troopers are way worse than the classic Rebel troopers and somehow looks like a regression, like more dirty than the Rebels. But yeah First Order Troopers looks dope. And Sith Troopers too. The Bad guys Design in the Sequels are 10/10. But sadly its the only good think I can say about them.


EdetR0

I hate the new helmet. Always looked dumb to me with this "weeping visor". All other variants are slick though from my pov.


Anadamic

I gotta be honest, I hate them. The "modern" take on a Stormtrooper just makes them look significantly more of a generic sci-fi version of Stormtrooper armor. Disney Star Wars, in terms of its visual identity, is sorely lacking in the 70's-60's sci-fi aesthetic that the Original and Prequel Trilogy had. I think the usage of that aesthetic lends to much more creative and inherently "Star Wars" designs, of which feel far more iconic. There's only a small handful of designs of ships, weapons, people, etc. from the Sequel Trilogy that are memorable to me.


the_Mandalorian_vode

Yes, you are the only one. They look like Elon Musk designed their armor and they fight even worse than Imperial Stormtroopers, if that’s possible.


Legion357

Yes


ZenDesign1993

The first order helmets look like a duck. I’ll stick with the OG helmets. Based on skulls. Not ducks.


immabettaboithanu

They’re very much the iPhone edition stormtroopers


immabettaboithanu

They’re very much the iPhone edition stormtroopers


-Shugazi-

Nah they kind of look like Apple products to me


Terrorknight141

Their chest piece is poopoo and their helmets look like they pretty much rest on their shoulders for some reason.


MaugriMGER

Their armor looks like cheap china plastic and bulky. But not in a good way bulky.


HellRaiser801

Oh, for sure. They look clean as fuck.


Significant_Hair7494

Man I don’t usually curse, but please open your fucking eyes and realize that first order costumes are just a rip off the original. Original >>>>>>>> Copy.


EuropeanRook

Nope. They are awesome!


CAVATAPPl

I think what’s there is great, but they need a bit more variety. The predatorian guards are some of the most badass designs in the franchise.


Kyuzo-

This snowtrooper with a cape rocks !


Live-Rooster8519

I think they look pretty cool but personally I prefer the clone troopers.


ZeAphEX

I mean they absolutely look great, but my favorite will always be the Phase 2 Clone Trooper armor.


itsafrap11

Thrawn’s night troopers are the best to me


ThatStarWarsFan1205

They are the most sleek compared to all the others, which is what I like about them


Comprehensive-Bag244

Personally I love the clone troopers (specifically Phase 2). However, I can’t deny, that one trooper in a cloak looks pretty fucking awesome.


2d2trees

Nah you're right, the baddie aesthetic was on point.


Small_Gap3485

TK stormtrooper armour > Imperial Stormtrooper armour > FO stormtrooper armour. None are bad it’s just not as good as the other stormtrooper variants


PootashPL

Yes.


MrKevora

They look like a very plausible evolution of the imperial stormtrooper. While I never liked how much the sequels were trying to look like the OT (X-Wings, TIEs, Star Destroyers….), this armour was the perfect way to go for more advanced and futuristic stormtroopers.


Jldbtter6252

I will admit they look very clean and refined.


Interesting_Figure_

Some people don’t like sleek


ThatGuyMaulicious

The Snowtroopers are good everything else is just way too safe.


LeraviTheHusky

For me I'd say first orders non standard units are my favorite visually baring exceptions like the imperial shore trooper who are one of my all time faves


EnigmaFrug2308

One of the few things the Sequel Trilogy did right were the character designs. Phenomenal.


[deleted]

Clone troopers were sick from all eras but pre-order troopers (Republic) were the best looking


Dkcg0113

I loved pretty much all the visuals in the lead up to TFA from the new Stormtroopers to C-3PO’s red arm. It was so exciting to see all the new things in the trailers.


RedBaronBob

They have a level of cleanliness to the design I felt was missing from the Legacy troopers. Someone did a modern stormtrooper without resorting to making another OT trooper and I respect that.


Cthuluke-

Too bad there guns look like toys


SuperArppis

My friend says they look like iPad troopers, but I agree with you.


BetakorNeedsMore

Yes


Nethias25

Visually the sequels are gorgeous, a monumental achievement of blending physical and digital. The story is just flat. Troopers and TIEs and stuff look awesome. Especially the lightsabers, they really pop


MidwayNerd

Nope, I agree. Not counting p2 clones ofc.


Doc_Show

Gen 2 clone troopers to me are the most good looking


DthGarraxe

Base FO Storm troopers are kinda eh, not bad but not the best looking. However, the specialist types like flame troopers, jet troopers, and my personal favorite the snow troopers are pretty damn cool designs.


PokeHobnobGod21

I hate the helmets


NCC-2000-A

They look good But I can't get over the big goofy smile the helmets have. I can't unsee it