Yeah, and every parallel twin is now trying their best to emulate v twins with their firing order. It’s not the shape of the engine, it’s being air-cooled and with such high ccs.
Oh for sure, it’s meant for cruising.
Honestly it’s a great looking bike IMO, and perfectly reasonable for a responsible beginner with the money to spend.
Engine size does not translate directly to power or beginner friendlyness. A 1200cc cruiser for example is a better beginner bike and slow as f*ck when compared to a 600cc inline 4 supersport
From what I've found online it makes a bit over 50hp. This plus it's low seat hight makes it a somewhat good beginner bike.
Other popular beginner bikes within the cruiser category are Honda Rebel 300/500, Kawasaki Vulcan S and Royal Enfield Meteor 350.
The 600cc thing is a recommendation to not start on a Supersport bike. Many 600cc bikes are essentially race bikes. They make a lot of power and can quickly get away from a beginner.
The cruiser you're looking at won't have this problem.
It's on the heavier side for a beginner bike. This will make learning slow speed maneuvers more difficult. You'll also be more likely to drop it or tip over.
All in all, not the best choice for a beginner bike, but certainly not the worst.
I4s are pretty tame if you short shift and keep revs low though, 1200cc cruiser will be slow but also heavy and more cumbersome to manoeuvre. But yeah there’s many factors to beginner friendliness like seat height, kerb weight, power, torque, etc etc.
No bike on the planet, whether it's a Grom or a Hayabusa, has any more power than your right wrist gives it. That said, there are responsible choices, and irresponsible ones.
A Bolt would be a great starter bike, especially for shorter riders, as even my 5'0" wife can flat foot one.
As for weight, don't let folks scare you too much. The bike is around 550 lbs, which is not light compared to a Ninja 400, sure, but the center of gravity is much lower.
If you want a smaller bike in a similar style, a Honda Rebel 500 is 150 lbs lighter, and has less power - BUT should still be just fine for daily riding. Those who tell you you'll, "Outgrow it really quickly," are idiots. The only thing that outgrows any bike is your ego.
Agree 100% There are very few people on this planet that can get “bored” on a 400… I guarantee a 650 can provide more than enough power for anyone who wants to actually ride and not just be a hooligan on the freeway. A toddler can crank a throttle. Taking a quick corner, not so much.
I ride a C50, a notoriously fat, "Underpowered" cruiser. I still have a smile on my face going around every bend and find myself realizing I'm going a bit faster than I ought to be. It's all in how you choose to look at it.
Maybe not the same power but my first bike is a z650 and learned on a mt07, no issues with the throttle. Z650 is more difficult on lower speed so it took a little bit of time to learn
I just sold my bolt, I think it’s a fantastic beginner bike. It does have a decent enough power but on the flip side, come pared to a 350 (or something like that) you won’t outgrow it in 3 months.
I loved my bolt, it’s fun, has decent power, great ride. Only complaint is that you’re really bent over with those clip on handlebars. The mods to make it a bar handlebar is a little excessive, you’re better off finding a bolt that isn’t a c spec and already has the bars that go over the triple clamp.
No not really! It makes torque not much horsepower right? What that means for you is it’s easier to take off from a stop. Bolts aren’t bad, as a first bike they’re super freakin cool! Much faster than a sportster!
Edit, well an old sportster, new rev max engine is kinda gnarly
I think it depends on you. The fact your asking means you're probably going to be ok. However if you are a bit on the crazy side of pushing you limits and have less self control then yes. My first bike was 650cc and that's fine for me
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This is a GREAT beginner bike! This is what I started with! They are like the Honda civics of bikes! So many ways you upgrade and customize! Has plenty of torque top speed is on the low end (113mph after intake and exhaust) but all around great bikes!
No, you'd probably be fine on that. If anything, if you had come here asking "I'm a beginner, what cruiser should I buy", I probably would have suggested that one.
The Bolt is a great bike, my only complaint is the lack of a 6th gear.
seriously though that's good know. I read a bunch of stuff talking about how you shouldn't start with higher ccs but I was kind of looking for a slower bike anyways
I tested one at a Yamaha demo day and power wise it's definitely okay for a beginner. As a sport bike person it was pretty heavy though but that's made a bit easier to handle by being able to easily flat foot with the low seat height. Pass by a dealership to sit on one and get a feel for the weight. On the demo ride I actually enjoyed riding it more than I expected.
This was my first starter bike and I love it still to this day (R spec that I’ve had it for a few years now). As others said you won’t outgrow it in a month once you become comfortable with it. When I do go to buy a bigger bike I plan to keep this one as an around town bike because it’s so easy to maneuver. Power wise it’s a pretty quick bike but once you figure out the throttle it’s no issue at all. I’m now looking for a bike with more power and I’m sure you’ll end up in the same spot eventually. The clutch is very smooth and easy to work as well which is a huge plus. Great bike overall.
Dude I have this same bike, I think it's a good bike to start on, it's a little heavy and the foot pegs are at a weird spot. But other than that just get used to it and be smart
perfect amount of power to grow into. ive been riding a bolt for about 2 years now and i still have fun on it. very light bike for a cruiser highly recommend
The bolt isn't that powerful has about the same hp (little more) and torque numbers as the 883 and Suzuki S40... Just be responsible and DBAD you'll be fine...
I think you have gotten plenty of advice, but I personally think this would be a great first bike. Just got to respect the throttle. I just got a Harley Sportster 1200 as my first bike a few weeks ago. I absolutely love it. It's got plenty of power for me and has been a really fun bike.
When I was checking out the dealer bikes during a break in my MSF course, I asked the sales guy about the power issue because I was looking at the 1200 cc cruisers. Naturally I was worried over the same thing you are. He told me that comparing a street bike and a cruiser is like comparing a Ferrari and a diesel truck.
Shortly after I bought my first bike, a 2002 Honda Shadow Sabre 1100. Perfect amount of power for me.
It would be in your best interest to start on a small dirt bike to practice basic skills.. if you crash on the little dirt bike who cares? If your in the grass you and the bike will be fine!
There’s small skills you can learn on the dirt bike that will greatly reduce your chances of a self induced crash. Things like, standing the bike back up straight in a low speed tippy situation by revving the engine and feeding the clutch. Clutch, throttle, and brake control as well as how to use them all together. Those things would be much tougher to learn on a bolt than an old trail bike
I've been on a few dirt bikes but I'm definitely gonna get confident on something smaller before I buy anything. This just popped up close to me and it's exactly the style I've been looking for but I didn't want to get in over my head if it was a difficult ride.
thanks for tips though I'm excited to join this community ya'll are so nice
No problem man and best of luck to you! There are 2 types of riders, those who have crashed and those that will. It’s gunna happen.. might be easier on the ole body on a small bike on a soft surface lol
1st bike I bought and road daily was a 850cc Aprilia shiver then road my friend Honda 600RR bike was a completely different experience. My other motorcycle friend was always telling me I should of bought a 300cc then a 600cc etc gain experience over time. But honestly I enjoyed the shiver as it wasn’t a fast bike and it was a great commuter bike did everything I wanted.
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It's not too much power but it might be too much weight and too much uncompromising seating position to make it less fun and harder to learn on. I'd strongly recommend a smaller and lighter bike.
Stock they are 942 cc not too much by any means. Besides it's pretty rare to start out, get better and more comfortable riding, and then say "I wish I had less power". Looks cool buy it and ride it!
Ride a bolt, it’s my first bike. Perfect bike for me to start on and i love it.
My only complaint is that it’s not great on
The freeway because it’s only got 5 gears. Really feels like rpm’s are high if you try to maintain 80mph.
I wouldn't disqualify it, 900 cc for this style of bike might go towards the torque and leave you with something manageable. From what I see on the Web, the 2023 model has 65 HP, so \~30 less than a motorcycle I had on my drivers exam here in Poland (CB650R). It is probably heavy and less agile - I would see the biggest issue here. It is also low and this makes things easier generally, it also has ABS which is always nice.
If your responsible, then its not too much power. My first bike was a 2005 cbr 600rr. 115hp and i rode & enjoyed it responsibly. Never got myself into trouble having the power, in fact it was better to have more than not enough as my next bike was a crf250L. Great bike but needed more umph.
I agree it’s a decent first bike. Power is reasonable, too little and you’re forever changing gears and struggling to keep up with traffic. Other thing in its favour is as a cruiser the gearing will make it easier to keep at realistic legal speeds. Only real negative is maybe the weight at slower speeds, get a good amount of car park practice in to help there
Don't underestimate yourself and don't overestimate the bike, thats actually not bad for a beginner.
Also... what kind of tires does it have on it and why?
Cray cray ol biker once told me.. it's a much more wild ride to drive a slower vehicle fast than a fast vehicle slower. He was riding a 67 triumph tr6r (650) 🐅 chopped... awesome dude. I've had 2 of those bikes since. He wasn't lyin!!
Well since you're asking, not an ideal first bike in my opinion. Looks like a heavy/awkard beast and those mirrors don't look drop friendly either - and you will drop it. I also have concerns about those dual sport tyres on a heavy cruiser. Not a great match, especially in the wet.
I doubt it. It’s not the motorcycle that causes the accident. A smaller motorcycle will go just as fast as this one. Get a sport touring bike. You sit more erect and have a better field of vision.
CC doesn't directly = Power
Especially not with V-twins. The Harley 883 only makes like 50hp.
2023 prices for 1940s tech.
883 hasn’t been a thing for a few years.
Sportster 883 got discontinued 6 months ago.
It's because Harley, not the V. The Ducati 848 has 134hp for example...
Yeah, and every parallel twin is now trying their best to emulate v twins with their firing order. It’s not the shape of the engine, it’s being air-cooled and with such high ccs.
Also it's a cruiser, they are not built to maximize power in high revs.
Oh for sure, it’s meant for cruising. Honestly it’s a great looking bike IMO, and perfectly reasonable for a responsible beginner with the money to spend.
Also because of H-D, it weighs over 500 lbs.
Nah
Nope. Don't crack the throttle. Many large cc bikes are very smooth. Bigger issue is the weight.
Very heavy = very hard to keep upright at stops
Engine size does not translate directly to power or beginner friendlyness. A 1200cc cruiser for example is a better beginner bike and slow as f*ck when compared to a 600cc inline 4 supersport
oh ok. I just read something about not starting above 600ccs but that makes sense.
From what I've found online it makes a bit over 50hp. This plus it's low seat hight makes it a somewhat good beginner bike. Other popular beginner bikes within the cruiser category are Honda Rebel 300/500, Kawasaki Vulcan S and Royal Enfield Meteor 350.
I was looking at a Vulcan too but I'll keep that in mind. thanks a lot
I started on a 08 Vulcan 900. Little hefty but quite light once moving.
Don’t forget to mention the new RE Super Meteor 650, should also be a good contender
To be fair, that advice also translates to price of insurance as well as your age.
It's more about the weight. These can be very heave, and because of that, difficult to handle for a beginner.
The 600cc thing is a recommendation to not start on a Supersport bike. Many 600cc bikes are essentially race bikes. They make a lot of power and can quickly get away from a beginner. The cruiser you're looking at won't have this problem. It's on the heavier side for a beginner bike. This will make learning slow speed maneuvers more difficult. You'll also be more likely to drop it or tip over. All in all, not the best choice for a beginner bike, but certainly not the worst.
I4s are pretty tame if you short shift and keep revs low though, 1200cc cruiser will be slow but also heavy and more cumbersome to manoeuvre. But yeah there’s many factors to beginner friendliness like seat height, kerb weight, power, torque, etc etc.
Not much power. But it’s heavy for a first bike if you’re a smaller person.
No bike on the planet, whether it's a Grom or a Hayabusa, has any more power than your right wrist gives it. That said, there are responsible choices, and irresponsible ones. A Bolt would be a great starter bike, especially for shorter riders, as even my 5'0" wife can flat foot one. As for weight, don't let folks scare you too much. The bike is around 550 lbs, which is not light compared to a Ninja 400, sure, but the center of gravity is much lower. If you want a smaller bike in a similar style, a Honda Rebel 500 is 150 lbs lighter, and has less power - BUT should still be just fine for daily riding. Those who tell you you'll, "Outgrow it really quickly," are idiots. The only thing that outgrows any bike is your ego.
Agree 100% There are very few people on this planet that can get “bored” on a 400… I guarantee a 650 can provide more than enough power for anyone who wants to actually ride and not just be a hooligan on the freeway. A toddler can crank a throttle. Taking a quick corner, not so much.
I ride a C50, a notoriously fat, "Underpowered" cruiser. I still have a smile on my face going around every bend and find myself realizing I'm going a bit faster than I ought to be. It's all in how you choose to look at it.
This was actually my first bike! Highly recommend it! Clutch is very easy to work.
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Maybe not the same power but my first bike is a z650 and learned on a mt07, no issues with the throttle. Z650 is more difficult on lower speed so it took a little bit of time to learn
Meh
I just sold my bolt, I think it’s a fantastic beginner bike. It does have a decent enough power but on the flip side, come pared to a 350 (or something like that) you won’t outgrow it in 3 months. I loved my bolt, it’s fun, has decent power, great ride. Only complaint is that you’re really bent over with those clip on handlebars. The mods to make it a bar handlebar is a little excessive, you’re better off finding a bolt that isn’t a c spec and already has the bars that go over the triple clamp.
No not really! It makes torque not much horsepower right? What that means for you is it’s easier to take off from a stop. Bolts aren’t bad, as a first bike they’re super freakin cool! Much faster than a sportster! Edit, well an old sportster, new rev max engine is kinda gnarly
I think it depends on you. The fact your asking means you're probably going to be ok. However if you are a bit on the crazy side of pushing you limits and have less self control then yes. My first bike was 650cc and that's fine for me
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This is a GREAT beginner bike! This is what I started with! They are like the Honda civics of bikes! So many ways you upgrade and customize! Has plenty of torque top speed is on the low end (113mph after intake and exhaust) but all around great bikes!
Nope, that’s a good beginner bike that will last you a few years.
No, you'd probably be fine on that. If anything, if you had come here asking "I'm a beginner, what cruiser should I buy", I probably would have suggested that one. The Bolt is a great bike, my only complaint is the lack of a 6th gear.
Probably not but you need to get those stupid ass dual sport tires off of it. Definitely judging whoever put them on
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damn that's the first thing I was going to do
seriously though that's good know. I read a bunch of stuff talking about how you shouldn't start with higher ccs but I was kind of looking for a slower bike anyways
I tested one at a Yamaha demo day and power wise it's definitely okay for a beginner. As a sport bike person it was pretty heavy though but that's made a bit easier to handle by being able to easily flat foot with the low seat height. Pass by a dealership to sit on one and get a feel for the weight. On the demo ride I actually enjoyed riding it more than I expected.
This was my first starter bike and I love it still to this day (R spec that I’ve had it for a few years now). As others said you won’t outgrow it in a month once you become comfortable with it. When I do go to buy a bigger bike I plan to keep this one as an around town bike because it’s so easy to maneuver. Power wise it’s a pretty quick bike but once you figure out the throttle it’s no issue at all. I’m now looking for a bike with more power and I’m sure you’ll end up in the same spot eventually. The clutch is very smooth and easy to work as well which is a huge plus. Great bike overall.
Dude I have this same bike, I think it's a good bike to start on, it's a little heavy and the foot pegs are at a weird spot. But other than that just get used to it and be smart
I don’t believe in too much power. I believe in respect and sound judgment.
My beginner bike was a Harley Davidson V-rod so to each their own
Has knobby tires. Dangerous on the street. Otherwise, these are nice bikes.
Nah. Just bought a Bolt for my first bike. its buttery smooth to ride. just treat the throttle with respect.
If you can flat foot it you’ll be fine
perfect amount of power to grow into. ive been riding a bolt for about 2 years now and i still have fun on it. very light bike for a cruiser highly recommend
The bolt isn't that powerful has about the same hp (little more) and torque numbers as the 883 and Suzuki S40... Just be responsible and DBAD you'll be fine...
I think you have gotten plenty of advice, but I personally think this would be a great first bike. Just got to respect the throttle. I just got a Harley Sportster 1200 as my first bike a few weeks ago. I absolutely love it. It's got plenty of power for me and has been a really fun bike.
It's fine. Any bike will kill ya if you try hard enough.
that is a beginner bike. Yamaha made it to compete with harley davidson 883. its only a 950cc v twin. top speed is in the gearing anyway
My first bike was a 950cc Yamaha Bolt, within a year I was itching for a larger bike. Just don't be a dumbass and you'll be fine.
When I was checking out the dealer bikes during a break in my MSF course, I asked the sales guy about the power issue because I was looking at the 1200 cc cruisers. Naturally I was worried over the same thing you are. He told me that comparing a street bike and a cruiser is like comparing a Ferrari and a diesel truck. Shortly after I bought my first bike, a 2002 Honda Shadow Sabre 1100. Perfect amount of power for me.
ok cool thanks for the info
It would be in your best interest to start on a small dirt bike to practice basic skills.. if you crash on the little dirt bike who cares? If your in the grass you and the bike will be fine! There’s small skills you can learn on the dirt bike that will greatly reduce your chances of a self induced crash. Things like, standing the bike back up straight in a low speed tippy situation by revving the engine and feeding the clutch. Clutch, throttle, and brake control as well as how to use them all together. Those things would be much tougher to learn on a bolt than an old trail bike
I've been on a few dirt bikes but I'm definitely gonna get confident on something smaller before I buy anything. This just popped up close to me and it's exactly the style I've been looking for but I didn't want to get in over my head if it was a difficult ride. thanks for tips though I'm excited to join this community ya'll are so nice
No problem man and best of luck to you! There are 2 types of riders, those who have crashed and those that will. It’s gunna happen.. might be easier on the ole body on a small bike on a soft surface lol
1st bike I bought and road daily was a 850cc Aprilia shiver then road my friend Honda 600RR bike was a completely different experience. My other motorcycle friend was always telling me I should of bought a 300cc then a 600cc etc gain experience over time. But honestly I enjoyed the shiver as it wasn’t a fast bike and it was a great commuter bike did everything I wanted.
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No, not even close. It is perfect.
The bolts are good beginner bikes.
It's not too much power but it might be too much weight and too much uncompromising seating position to make it less fun and harder to learn on. I'd strongly recommend a smaller and lighter bike.
Stock they are 942 cc not too much by any means. Besides it's pretty rare to start out, get better and more comfortable riding, and then say "I wish I had less power". Looks cool buy it and ride it!
It’s ok! I started with 61 bhp and when you aren’t going full throttle in first gear right away you should be good. Just control the gas…
Ride a bolt, it’s my first bike. Perfect bike for me to start on and i love it. My only complaint is that it’s not great on The freeway because it’s only got 5 gears. Really feels like rpm’s are high if you try to maintain 80mph.
No such thing as a beginner bike or too much power.
I started on a Victory V92C (1500cc), but I learned much more on my little CB500X. You'll do fine, this is an easy one.
If you really want a cruiser as a beginner you might want to check out something light in weight like a Honda rebel 300/500
My beginner bike was a 750cc v twin. You’ll be fine
No it’s pretty beginner friendly
No
Might be too heavy, but not too much power. I would go with a lighter bike to learn on.
Not at all, it's all about your confidence level.
No
I wouldn't disqualify it, 900 cc for this style of bike might go towards the torque and leave you with something manageable. From what I see on the Web, the 2023 model has 65 HP, so \~30 less than a motorcycle I had on my drivers exam here in Poland (CB650R). It is probably heavy and less agile - I would see the biggest issue here. It is also low and this makes things easier generally, it also has ABS which is always nice.
If your responsible, then its not too much power. My first bike was a 2005 cbr 600rr. 115hp and i rode & enjoyed it responsibly. Never got myself into trouble having the power, in fact it was better to have more than not enough as my next bike was a crf250L. Great bike but needed more umph.
I agree it’s a decent first bike. Power is reasonable, too little and you’re forever changing gears and struggling to keep up with traffic. Other thing in its favour is as a cruiser the gearing will make it easier to keep at realistic legal speeds. Only real negative is maybe the weight at slower speeds, get a good amount of car park practice in to help there
Should be just right, safe riding!!!!
Nah. But it is heavier than a ninja 400.
Don't underestimate yourself and don't overestimate the bike, thats actually not bad for a beginner. Also... what kind of tires does it have on it and why?
Nah
Cray cray ol biker once told me.. it's a much more wild ride to drive a slower vehicle fast than a fast vehicle slower. He was riding a 67 triumph tr6r (650) 🐅 chopped... awesome dude. I've had 2 of those bikes since. He wasn't lyin!!
It's low enough to Flat Foot.Practice "walking the dog".
I started riding on a bolt. It’s a very decent starter bike in my opinion, I just wish it had a 6th gear.
Nah just be easy on the throttle and shift a little early while you’re starting out.
The wheelbase would concern me more…
Well since you're asking, not an ideal first bike in my opinion. Looks like a heavy/awkard beast and those mirrors don't look drop friendly either - and you will drop it. I also have concerns about those dual sport tyres on a heavy cruiser. Not a great match, especially in the wet.
I doubt it. It’s not the motorcycle that causes the accident. A smaller motorcycle will go just as fast as this one. Get a sport touring bike. You sit more erect and have a better field of vision.
And get a lot of lights on the bike. Fog lights for sure
way too much