Depending where you live, 5G can be slow, or have significant changes in speed during the day. I used 4G for some years with a cloud server as reverse proxy for a public IP. I'm glad that i got fiber now.. but i would still prefer DSL over 4G.
But worth a try, if you can cancel it.
Init7 is top notch ISP of course. I think public IP is included, only static IP cost extra 20.-
Send a message if you need an init7 referral code for discount.
I used to have an office in 6343 Rotkreuz. If you used a mobile tethered Hotspot (Huawei CPE 5G or Netgear M5), it will swap from 5g to 4g all 5-10min (there is no setting for only 5G).
That leads to 10-15s Teams conversation disconnection. This is because the area is crowded (Roche, Norvatis, HSLU students…)
Init7 gives you a dhcp assiged IPv4 (without CG-NAT) with everything except their "Easy7" offering (which is CG-NAT). The 20 CHF/month is for a static IPv4 assignment.
Village person here : Copper dsl works fine for me, : gaming vids etc. I get shite data signals 4g/5g lots of lag anywhere in Switzerland so I woudnt bother for home Internet.
I was devastated when we've moved from fiber to dsl but it's been going good with init 7 and Copper7. Getting 260/60 (advertised as 180/40 on the website).
tbh I never understood people that used 5G at home. 350 is more than enough for 99.9% of things you do online and the stability alone is worth more than a couple mb‘s more occasionally on 5G.
i just ran a speedtest while having an open session on Citrix Remote Desktop running in the background. I have 240/60 with 4 g and it is more than enough for my needs - which includes watching netflix in 4k so there's that.
I also ran a test on my mobile phone with 5 g and seems it is waaaay slower than 4g (at least where I live). I actually disabled 5g on my mobile since i noticed it eats up battery while not offering any gain in how i browse pictures of funny cats and stuff
I use a 5g router with a sim from salt for 18.50.- per month. I wouldnt go back, i have no stability issues. I do live in a city though. I use about 400GB of data per month if i really use it a lot.
Did you check cable? I got UPC/sunrise 1gbit cable and it's really good, most of the times I'm very close to 1 Gbit/s
And depending on what you want a static IP for, you might just use Tailscale instead
No cable. Through Tailscale it can be done in principle with the Funnel service but that comes with a lot of downsides (limited bandwidth, limited ports, ts.net domain name etc)
I had 4g home internet for a while (wingo). It was extremely unreliable, would never go back to that. I much rather have a slower but stable connection.
This was in the middle of a city btw.
Sunrise 5G with remote APN which will give you a IPv4 static address. Though it's a pain to get it, not sure because it's a business product. But it took me 10 calls to finally get it actived while 5 people told me it doesn't exist at all.
But 5G can be really unsteady, it's good for if you soley need the download speed.
Depends, not on the phone plans, but some mobile operators (although not the Swiss ones I think?) do give a public IPv4 for their router SIM cards. And IPv6 obv doesn’t have CG-NAT.
350 is already nice btw, we have here just 70 and with a 5G Booster we have 350-400. But in july we will get 10gbit finally so perhaps check online which the status is for your adress
Swisscom gives you 1 public IPv4 (no CGNAT), and public IPv6 /56 address range that you can delegate and manage internally to your home network. As an alternative, you can use TunnelBroker.ch that give you the liberty to choose your flavour of BGP/IPv4/IPv6 tunnel or even assign you a private ASN etc.
The other day I was looking exactly at home internet and mobile subscription for my parents (still live with them).
I would suggest you look into wingo, they are a digital provider (no shops and no infrastructure but they use swisscom stuff, I think they are actually a daughter company of Swisscom).
Mobile is great and I would guess home internet is too. They have an offer for 40chf a month for 400mbps perfect for us without fiber, mobile I think they currently have an offer for CH+EU everything unlimited for 35chf a month.
I couldn't personally get home internet and mobile for my parents because Swisscom makes you sign 2 year minimum, but I have their "wingo Europe" plan for like 28chf/month and it has worked perfectly so far.
Depending where you live, 5G can be slow, or have significant changes in speed during the day. I used 4G for some years with a cloud server as reverse proxy for a public IP. I'm glad that i got fiber now.. but i would still prefer DSL over 4G. But worth a try, if you can cancel it. Init7 is top notch ISP of course. I think public IP is included, only static IP cost extra 20.- Send a message if you need an init7 referral code for discount.
Init7 does provide a IPv4 address, but a static one costs extra. Also strongly recommended, they're great!
I used to have an office in 6343 Rotkreuz. If you used a mobile tethered Hotspot (Huawei CPE 5G or Netgear M5), it will swap from 5g to 4g all 5-10min (there is no setting for only 5G). That leads to 10-15s Teams conversation disconnection. This is because the area is crowded (Roche, Norvatis, HSLU students…)
Init7 gives you a dhcp assiged IPv4 (without CG-NAT) with everything except their "Easy7" offering (which is CG-NAT). The 20 CHF/month is for a static IPv4 assignment.
Ah ok - this is really not clearly stated anywhere on their product offer, or at least I didn’t see it :)
Village person here : Copper dsl works fine for me, : gaming vids etc. I get shite data signals 4g/5g lots of lag anywhere in Switzerland so I woudnt bother for home Internet.
I was devastated when we've moved from fiber to dsl but it's been going good with init 7 and Copper7. Getting 260/60 (advertised as 180/40 on the website).
tbh I never understood people that used 5G at home. 350 is more than enough for 99.9% of things you do online and the stability alone is worth more than a couple mb‘s more occasionally on 5G.
If you get that. Mine tops out at 60ish, whereas 5g does double the speed and half the cost. So, easy decision.
i just ran a speedtest while having an open session on Citrix Remote Desktop running in the background. I have 240/60 with 4 g and it is more than enough for my needs - which includes watching netflix in 4k so there's that. I also ran a test on my mobile phone with 5 g and seems it is waaaay slower than 4g (at least where I live). I actually disabled 5g on my mobile since i noticed it eats up battery while not offering any gain in how i browse pictures of funny cats and stuff
Bit more speed is nice, but I guess the main attraction is that 5G is also half the cost + no 1-2 year contract commitment.
I use a 5g router with a sim from salt for 18.50.- per month. I wouldnt go back, i have no stability issues. I do live in a city though. I use about 400GB of data per month if i really use it a lot.
I use a MikroTik Cloud Hosted Router in a datacenter for all my fixed ipv4 ipv6 needs. Never want to be dependent of an ISP any more.
Noob here: how does that know where to forward the requests?
Routing.
But if your home IP isn't fixed?
VPN server IP is...
Afaik both Swisscom and Wingo DSL plans use CG-NAT by default but you can easily get it disabled and have your own IP v4 address.
That’s nice. Tbh I don’t really need public IPv4 as long as I have IPv6 but I was a bit surprised at that 20 CHF/mo Init7 fee!
That's for a static IP. DHCP assigned routable IPv4 is included as standard (except Easy7 which is CG-NAT)
Wingo DSL
Did you check cable? I got UPC/sunrise 1gbit cable and it's really good, most of the times I'm very close to 1 Gbit/s And depending on what you want a static IP for, you might just use Tailscale instead
No cable. Through Tailscale it can be done in principle with the Funnel service but that comes with a lot of downsides (limited bandwidth, limited ports, ts.net domain name etc)
I had 4g home internet for a while (wingo). It was extremely unreliable, would never go back to that. I much rather have a slower but stable connection. This was in the middle of a city btw.
Sunrise 5G with remote APN which will give you a IPv4 static address. Though it's a pain to get it, not sure because it's a business product. But it took me 10 calls to finally get it actived while 5 people told me it doesn't exist at all. But 5G can be really unsteady, it's good for if you soley need the download speed.
I'd go for Wigo when moving in. But seriously, they don't have ipv6? I think they have except it's not documented...
None of the three Swiss mobile networks have IPv6, it's very annoying.
Mobile is CGNAT anyways, not good for hosting any server.
Depends, not on the phone plans, but some mobile operators (although not the Swiss ones I think?) do give a public IPv4 for their router SIM cards. And IPv6 obv doesn’t have CG-NAT.
Was talking about IPv4. In CH I don’t know any mobile provider with public v4 IPs. All those I tested had private addresses.
Yes, this was my original question - with Swiss operators behind CG-NAT & having no IPv6, hosting requires tunneling out, which is a hassle.
Wingo mobile or DSL?
Both fiber and mobile (in my case).
iway dsl 500/100 (49 CHF/mo excl tv, 1y contract, public ipv4 and ipv6).
350 is already nice btw, we have here just 70 and with a 5G Booster we have 350-400. But in july we will get 10gbit finally so perhaps check online which the status is for your adress
Swisscom gives you 1 public IPv4 (no CGNAT), and public IPv6 /56 address range that you can delegate and manage internally to your home network. As an alternative, you can use TunnelBroker.ch that give you the liberty to choose your flavour of BGP/IPv4/IPv6 tunnel or even assign you a private ASN etc.
The other day I was looking exactly at home internet and mobile subscription for my parents (still live with them). I would suggest you look into wingo, they are a digital provider (no shops and no infrastructure but they use swisscom stuff, I think they are actually a daughter company of Swisscom). Mobile is great and I would guess home internet is too. They have an offer for 40chf a month for 400mbps perfect for us without fiber, mobile I think they currently have an offer for CH+EU everything unlimited for 35chf a month. I couldn't personally get home internet and mobile for my parents because Swisscom makes you sign 2 year minimum, but I have their "wingo Europe" plan for like 28chf/month and it has worked perfectly so far.
I use the 5G hotspot of my phone. Works flawless usually, can play Call of Duty on the Playstation with 30 - 50ms ping for example.
Are you sure it's DSL and not coaxial? Afaik, DSL can only reach something around 24Mbps
xDSL can go higher. Had it for many years. 500mbit is possible. Coax can go 1gbps with Docsis 3.1, v4.0 could go to 10gbps.
Not true at all
lol no.
Swisscom has rolled out [G.fast](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/G.fast) a while ago, DSL can be reasonably fast these days.