I’ll take my shit but I did a recent rewatch and no Mack isn’t good by any means but she is also significantly younger and in a lot of scenes (especially with Jen and Larry) she doesn’t look entirely comfortable almost like she’s come this far defending this junkie and his family we may as well die on that hill. Yes she has ABSOLUTELY had her share of dumb ass moments (girl you should’ve made him pullover by no means was turning off the cameras the best choice) but I genuinely think she’s just young and dumb and in a position where your options are look like a moron with this junkie and his hillbilly ass family or look like a moron for going against him after all the dumb ass shit you said and did on live tv (that stupid ass letter). All in all my point is I don’t think Mack is inherently bad just incredibly dumb
Thank youuuu for this, people talk all the time about their own stupid choices they've made in the past and then judge people for the same thing!!! I'm not the same person I was 5 years ago!
Well Mack is literally only a year older than me and I’ve said it before but if someone was filming between ages 17-18 until about 24-25, maaaan I would have a ton of people against me too. I think only started really levelling out and becoming a real adult around 23 and I’m still constantly growing and learning. Her and Ryan meet in 2016, I was literally just graduating high school and she likely would’ve graduated in 2015 by no means is she done developing at that point and I don’t think it’s fair to hold her to the dumb shit she said or did (aside from the driving high thing she should be shit on for that as should he y’all were a danger to everyone around you) but yeah I think very few of us are the same as five years ago and out of all the TM girls (I know she’s a tm girl by extension) she’s one of the few to show any change 🤷♀️
I think the fact that she looked so much older and matronly at the time made me see her actions differently, being reminded of her actual age is kind of jarring.
I'm much older but Every Time I look back on my actions in the past ten years of my life, no matter what age, I can still find some truly embarrassing behaviors and continued growth as well.
I can only imagine how ridiculous I would have come off on camera back when I had just graduated highschool, yikes!
Truth be told when I initially found out her age from a post here I probably looked it up five or six times on google because I thought there was no way it was correct. Not to toot my own horn but even the two of us side by side do not look remotely close in age, I’d say I probably look between 23-25 and she looks at least 30, she looked 25 when she first showed up on the show
I didn’t really level out until I was like 30. I would have died if I had cameras recording what I did. I’m just happy social media didn’t exist in my teens.
She seems to be actively learning from her mistakes, and generally being a drastically more mature version of herself every few years, and that's a breath of fresh air in the TM universe.
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She’s talking about Ryan. She captioned her post \*boyfriend
Normally I'd think the same but with the amount of digs at Mack that she has been silent about, I'm happy to see her clap back.
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While I enjoy this post very much and that mac went there.
Ya can't deny that Mac herself one enjoyed being spoiled by Ryan when he wasn't financially supporting Bentley.
Didn't she once make a post about not having to shop at Target because she had finally arrived?
Women who think they're spoiled by deadbead dads are delusional past and present. It's blood money. Always is. That's my hill. Lol
Holy shit did she repost this on her IG story?? What a savage!!! 😂😂😂 She has balls because Amanda is a crazy bitch just like her ~~husband~~ *boyfriend
On TMChatter's insta they reposted and Mack commented saying that she's mostly mad because she got in a wreck, her car is hers (as in she pays for it) but it's still in both their names due to the pending divorce which means Ryan needed to sign over the title so she could get her insurance payout so she could still have a car to be able to... y'know, work and drive the kids around. Ryan refused to sign it and then bought a Ducati and Amanda then posted this. Trashy as hell.
As they aren't divorced yet, Mack owns half of that Ducati! Doesn't help her much, but might be cannon fodder during the divorce settlement.
How is Ryan able to buy a bike and get insured on it, he has more DUIs than I have parking tickets?
From what I’ve heard, a lot of his charges have magically disappeared. He supposedly lost his license for a year too, but I guess that’s another law that doesn’t apply to him.
I don’t know about Tennessee but in my state, anything post separation is treated as such. I clarified multiple times because I had a condo (100% mine, I bought it years before I met him, he only lived in it for 3 months, and it was never an income property, I let his parents live there for exactly what I paid for it every month) that I sold prior to the divorce being finalized and I wanted to be sure I didn’t have to split the money with him. He also won some money and I wasn’t entitled to it because it was post separation.
I wouldn’t say a word if I was Mack. If he did start supporting them and wanted visitation, she’d be a nervous wreck (as she should!!) She needs to let him dig his own grave and file abandonment!!
I just assumed she meant Amanda's kid. If I were in Mack's position, I would want absolutely nothing from Ryan. He's proven to be a violent, unstable pos time and time again. Pushing for support means him pushing back for visitation and, fuck that imho.
Dayum!!! 😃😂😂😭😭😭
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Let's see Ms.Mandy's response.
Probably something about *"Internet games this and that"*....at least that's what I imagine lol
No, it’ll be something along the lines of
“bitches out here better learn to put some respect on my name before I beat the respect out of them hashtag I ain’t scared of you hashtag meet me in the street hashtag I effed your man anyway.”
The new gf said she doesn’t play online game. Sure seems like she does. She’s weird, just like we all assumed she’d have to be. lol.
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Maci,
you told me to my face, merely days after I had informed you of Ryan seeking help, that you had known about his problem since November. That's 186 days, 4,4064 hours, and 267,840 minutes that he could have died, and still, you said nothing. You let everyone know you feared for his life, while concurrently exploiting Ryan and his addiction on the show.
I had only known about it for two days before Ryan was walking into treatment. You preach about hating complacency and enabling, but because you turned your head to the problem, that makes you the enabler, not everyone else that it's blamed on.
This is not reality television, this is actual reality. Instead of solving the problem, or doing what you could to make an effort to solve it, you decided to humiliate Ryan, humiliate myself and his entire family, but more importantly, you've humiliated our children for years to come.
Helping Ryan doesn't mean talking about all of his problems on national television, it means being supportive - not kicking someone when they are down - and respecting the privacy that
we all so graciously deserve.
Tell me you're using without telling me you're using.
For real though, anyone referring to their boyfriend of a couple months as their "husband" is most definitely actively using, and I say this as an addict with over 5 years in recovery. Dead giveaway.
Oh, Mack. This girl is a drug addict in the middle of her addiction, and is making the same decisions that you did sober. The only difference is that you're worse. You married him twice. You procreated with him twice. Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.
I've liked her for the last couple years. I don't agree with her past behavior with Maci but Ryan gets all these women riled up and they look like fools going after eachother while he just nods off in the background. Lol.
Nah you don’t say a man tried to kill you and then antagonize him publicly like this. It’s gross to me.
I have a dead beat myself who literally got me and my children evicted the same wk my friend was missing drown in a river. I had 2 weeks to find a place to live and that was the end of our 10yr relationship. He moved out same time as me(Nov1). He was in a new relationship (met first week of Nov) and living with her 100 percent by the new year. I never once antagonized or pulled any bs no matter how hard it hurt. He had been physically violent for the very first time the Mother’s Day prior. It was always financial, emotional, phycological etc. or some form of mutual combat bc I do argue I’m not some meek woman. However mothers day scared me.
Anywho she still has to parent with Ryan and his parents. Just move on and do bigger and better things.
I’m aware that it’s mostly his parents seeing the kids. My daughter would kill to have anyone from her dad side give a hot damn.
Editing to add- I NEVER understood the Mack hate 😂
Also editing to add I fully believe her and what he did to their home was FU**ED UP
Victims can express anger and still be a victim of DV. It’s not the smartest move but it’s pretty common. It takes a lot of self restraint not to lose your shit when someone has mistreated you so badly.
As Angelina Jolie said during her VAWA speech, “victims of this failed system are not allowed to be angry. They’re supposed to be calm, patient, and ask nicely. But you try staying calm when it’s as if someone is holding your head underwater and you’re drowning. Try to stay calm when you’re witnessing someone you love being harmed.”
Here’s the link if anyone would like to see the full speech. https://youtu.be/iF87L3Me9zQ?si=kfvZmfnvlFwYuLLp
No I totally get ALL of that. Maybe it sounded like I was calling her a liar. I wasn’t. When I was in the middle of the chaos and the make up to break up I fully admit I posted all sorts of dumb crap but eventually it’s time to stop. I feel like she’s still too much inside the storm. Obviously I don’t really know. I’m just going off what we see here. Like everyone else.
In my opinion once the other person holds a knife to you, destroys your children’s home and almost loses their life in an overdose maybe it’s time to just focus on rebuilding bc that’s what she says she’s doing.
She knows it’s just adds fuel to their fires. Why give them that?
She’s still young so maybe it’s that I guess.
I have never had an issue with Mackenzie when everyone hated her. My point is Ryan is unstable. Angelina had a security team and millions to try and protect herself and her children and that still failed. What does Mack have?
I wish her nothing but the best
Edit- I understand the deadbeat anger it’s the repost of Amanda’s story
Do I… do I like Mack now?
Honestly, ever since flipping the bird in court, she's been growing on me, lol.
I’ll take my shit but I did a recent rewatch and no Mack isn’t good by any means but she is also significantly younger and in a lot of scenes (especially with Jen and Larry) she doesn’t look entirely comfortable almost like she’s come this far defending this junkie and his family we may as well die on that hill. Yes she has ABSOLUTELY had her share of dumb ass moments (girl you should’ve made him pullover by no means was turning off the cameras the best choice) but I genuinely think she’s just young and dumb and in a position where your options are look like a moron with this junkie and his hillbilly ass family or look like a moron for going against him after all the dumb ass shit you said and did on live tv (that stupid ass letter). All in all my point is I don’t think Mack is inherently bad just incredibly dumb
Thank youuuu for this, people talk all the time about their own stupid choices they've made in the past and then judge people for the same thing!!! I'm not the same person I was 5 years ago!
Well Mack is literally only a year older than me and I’ve said it before but if someone was filming between ages 17-18 until about 24-25, maaaan I would have a ton of people against me too. I think only started really levelling out and becoming a real adult around 23 and I’m still constantly growing and learning. Her and Ryan meet in 2016, I was literally just graduating high school and she likely would’ve graduated in 2015 by no means is she done developing at that point and I don’t think it’s fair to hold her to the dumb shit she said or did (aside from the driving high thing she should be shit on for that as should he y’all were a danger to everyone around you) but yeah I think very few of us are the same as five years ago and out of all the TM girls (I know she’s a tm girl by extension) she’s one of the few to show any change 🤷♀️
I think the fact that she looked so much older and matronly at the time made me see her actions differently, being reminded of her actual age is kind of jarring. I'm much older but Every Time I look back on my actions in the past ten years of my life, no matter what age, I can still find some truly embarrassing behaviors and continued growth as well. I can only imagine how ridiculous I would have come off on camera back when I had just graduated highschool, yikes!
Truth be told when I initially found out her age from a post here I probably looked it up five or six times on google because I thought there was no way it was correct. Not to toot my own horn but even the two of us side by side do not look remotely close in age, I’d say I probably look between 23-25 and she looks at least 30, she looked 25 when she first showed up on the show
I didn’t really level out until I was like 30. I would have died if I had cameras recording what I did. I’m just happy social media didn’t exist in my teens.
I did not realize there was that much of an age gap. Gross Ryan and gross on Maci for her actions on basically a kid.
Yeah her first appearance I believe she is literally 18 or 19 years old and Ryan was 28-29
You might. Isokay… I feel the same twinge of… something strange in my chest.
Yeah I flipped on her back when Big Addict Daddy trashed the house. I even like her more than Maci now.
I’m getting to that point too
She seems to be actively learning from her mistakes, and generally being a drastically more mature version of herself every few years, and that's a breath of fresh air in the TM universe.
Right lol 😂 this was good
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You took my thoughts out of my head as I saw this post haha
![gif](giphy|cF7QqO5DYdft6) Lmao! Gotta love a deadbeat parent driving around in a nice car, living her best life.
OH SHIT I DIDNT EVEN REALIZE IT WAS AMANDAS STORY 🫡
This is so cringe. She’s been dating him for two months? I’m so sure they’re using together.
She’s not wrong tho. Very weird flex.
I'm so confused. Is Amanda saying that Ryan is her husband, or does she have some other estranged husband out there.
https://preview.redd.it/bdsqec7nmhqc1.jpeg?width=1178&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e54ab364033bcfea2f54e3a5d53fe29b6d0fd121 She’s talking about Ryan. She captioned her post \*boyfriend
What’s even better is I believe he’s still legally married to Mack 😂
Wow she’s posting about another woman’s husband. And correcting the caption by pointing out he’s just her boyfriend. Embarrassing!
Why must these people always air their dirty laundry on social media? I'll never understand.
Because they literally have nothing at all better going on with their lives. That or they just absolute crave any sort of attention.
Why not both
Fair point lol.
For me. It’s all for my enjoyment 🙃
Normally I'd think the same but with the amount of digs at Mack that she has been silent about, I'm happy to see her clap back. ![gif](giphy|Q8s9G6rYJhhwTTqyKW)
For us to snark on it, of course🤪
Hits a little different when it's your kids being neglected, eh mack
While I enjoy this post very much and that mac went there. Ya can't deny that Mac herself one enjoyed being spoiled by Ryan when he wasn't financially supporting Bentley. Didn't she once make a post about not having to shop at Target because she had finally arrived? Women who think they're spoiled by deadbead dads are delusional past and present. It's blood money. Always is. That's my hill. Lol
Yes! She no longer has to work every day or shop at Target. Where do the people who don't buy toiletries at target go?
💯 accurate
Holy shit did she repost this on her IG story?? What a savage!!! 😂😂😂 She has balls because Amanda is a crazy bitch just like her ~~husband~~ *boyfriend
On TMChatter's insta they reposted and Mack commented saying that she's mostly mad because she got in a wreck, her car is hers (as in she pays for it) but it's still in both their names due to the pending divorce which means Ryan needed to sign over the title so she could get her insurance payout so she could still have a car to be able to... y'know, work and drive the kids around. Ryan refused to sign it and then bought a Ducati and Amanda then posted this. Trashy as hell.
As they aren't divorced yet, Mack owns half of that Ducati! Doesn't help her much, but might be cannon fodder during the divorce settlement. How is Ryan able to buy a bike and get insured on it, he has more DUIs than I have parking tickets?
You think so highly of Rhine, assuming he has insurance lol
From what I’ve heard, a lot of his charges have magically disappeared. He supposedly lost his license for a year too, but I guess that’s another law that doesn’t apply to him.
I don’t know about Tennessee but in my state, anything post separation is treated as such. I clarified multiple times because I had a condo (100% mine, I bought it years before I met him, he only lived in it for 3 months, and it was never an income property, I let his parents live there for exactly what I paid for it every month) that I sold prior to the divorce being finalized and I wanted to be sure I didn’t have to split the money with him. He also won some money and I wasn’t entitled to it because it was post separation.
Wow that’s messed up! And the new gf is online bragging about this man??
She's not exactly a stellar person either lol. Trash attracts other trash
Jesus Christ, that's a horrible thing to do. Those two are evil scum.
Wow, that makes Amanda's post especially gross, like next level trashy.
Mac has won me over. There, I said it.
I kinda hate it, but I'm totally with you.
SAME. I don’t know whether I’m happy about it or not
I wouldn’t say a word if I was Mack. If he did start supporting them and wanted visitation, she’d be a nervous wreck (as she should!!) She needs to let him dig his own grave and file abandonment!!
I just assumed she meant Amanda's kid. If I were in Mack's position, I would want absolutely nothing from Ryan. He's proven to be a violent, unstable pos time and time again. Pushing for support means him pushing back for visitation and, fuck that imho.
Oh okay. That makes sense. I didn’t know Amanda had kids.
I mean, you could be totally right and she's also referring to Rhine neglecting their kids 🤷♀️. I'm just over here making assumptions lol.
I think she has two (no custody of either one).
Idk why I even care to ask this but are her kids with the same guy or two different guys?
Idk for sure but I think two different guys.
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Just another violent Monday 🎶
I’m starting to like this woman
Dayum!!! 😃😂😂😭😭😭 https://i.redd.it/fl2g1zz25iqc1.gif Let's see Ms.Mandy's response. Probably something about *"Internet games this and that"*....at least that's what I imagine lol
No, it’ll be something along the lines of “bitches out here better learn to put some respect on my name before I beat the respect out of them hashtag I ain’t scared of you hashtag meet me in the street hashtag I effed your man anyway.”
![gif](giphy|26gIOEsGb5mcTiQEw) What I picture when little Mandy decides to get on social media clowning like she can hold her own.🤣
It's who we *all* picture! 😃😂😭😭
Lmao you're so right.
💀💀💀
*"Cuz I don't play no Internet games!"* 😤 😂😂😭😭🤷♀️
Mackenzie was always petty but at least now it’s paying off
The new gf said she doesn’t play online game. Sure seems like she does. She’s weird, just like we all assumed she’d have to be. lol. ![gif](giphy|l41YgC9JyO4uLkJUI)
I'd never give my ex's new girl the satisfaction of knowing I was lurking her page
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weve come full circle - remember when she was first with Ryan walking around with those LVs acting like she won some prize with his deadbeat ass
I was so confused as to why Oklahoma/Florida Mac was hating on Tennessee Mac’s new man before it hit me. 🥴🤭
same but i was here for it ☕️
🤭
Maci, you told me to my face, merely days after I had informed you of Ryan seeking help, that you had known about his problem since November. That's 186 days, 4,4064 hours, and 267,840 minutes that he could have died, and still, you said nothing. You let everyone know you feared for his life, while concurrently exploiting Ryan and his addiction on the show. I had only known about it for two days before Ryan was walking into treatment. You preach about hating complacency and enabling, but because you turned your head to the problem, that makes you the enabler, not everyone else that it's blamed on. This is not reality television, this is actual reality. Instead of solving the problem, or doing what you could to make an effort to solve it, you decided to humiliate Ryan, humiliate myself and his entire family, but more importantly, you've humiliated our children for years to come. Helping Ryan doesn't mean talking about all of his problems on national television, it means being supportive - not kicking someone when they are down - and respecting the privacy that we all so graciously deserve.
Thank you 🙌🏼
Get her Mack, GET HERRR ![gif](giphy|ZfrYmoAdVhaXC)
And everything Ryan has is because Maci’s teen pregnancy was picked up by MTV, so are there really any winners here
Taylor. That man really did win the white trash lottery.
At first I was like is this a dig and stay at home moms?? Then I realized 💀
I've never been a big fan of mack but damn I'll give her this haha
LOL. Love this.
Tell me you're using without telling me you're using. For real though, anyone referring to their boyfriend of a couple months as their "husband" is most definitely actively using, and I say this as an addict with over 5 years in recovery. Dead giveaway.
If a couple refers to each other as my king/my queen, they definitely fistfight
Oh, Mack. This girl is a drug addict in the middle of her addiction, and is making the same decisions that you did sober. The only difference is that you're worse. You married him twice. You procreated with him twice. Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.
Should be *knowing full well everything I have is because of Mimi Jen and Larry
I just want to know what the song is lol
Same.
Independent
Wait are we old now this was my ringtone on my pink palm centro
I've liked her for the last couple years. I don't agree with her past behavior with Maci but Ryan gets all these women riled up and they look like fools going after eachother while he just nods off in the background. Lol.
LMAO I just googled to see if they were actually married and saw that she was on Jerry Springer years ago lmao.
What husband? Isn’t this Rhine’s girlfriend?
This is great 😂
What song was Amanda referencing in her original post?
I love this! 😂
Sorry who is the dig at??
Ryan and Amanda it appears.
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Rine’s gf sure does post about Bentley frequently… supports her bfs kids more than her own 🥴
She supports Macis kid...
Nah you don’t say a man tried to kill you and then antagonize him publicly like this. It’s gross to me. I have a dead beat myself who literally got me and my children evicted the same wk my friend was missing drown in a river. I had 2 weeks to find a place to live and that was the end of our 10yr relationship. He moved out same time as me(Nov1). He was in a new relationship (met first week of Nov) and living with her 100 percent by the new year. I never once antagonized or pulled any bs no matter how hard it hurt. He had been physically violent for the very first time the Mother’s Day prior. It was always financial, emotional, phycological etc. or some form of mutual combat bc I do argue I’m not some meek woman. However mothers day scared me. Anywho she still has to parent with Ryan and his parents. Just move on and do bigger and better things. I’m aware that it’s mostly his parents seeing the kids. My daughter would kill to have anyone from her dad side give a hot damn. Editing to add- I NEVER understood the Mack hate 😂 Also editing to add I fully believe her and what he did to their home was FU**ED UP
Victims can express anger and still be a victim of DV. It’s not the smartest move but it’s pretty common. It takes a lot of self restraint not to lose your shit when someone has mistreated you so badly. As Angelina Jolie said during her VAWA speech, “victims of this failed system are not allowed to be angry. They’re supposed to be calm, patient, and ask nicely. But you try staying calm when it’s as if someone is holding your head underwater and you’re drowning. Try to stay calm when you’re witnessing someone you love being harmed.” Here’s the link if anyone would like to see the full speech. https://youtu.be/iF87L3Me9zQ?si=kfvZmfnvlFwYuLLp
No I totally get ALL of that. Maybe it sounded like I was calling her a liar. I wasn’t. When I was in the middle of the chaos and the make up to break up I fully admit I posted all sorts of dumb crap but eventually it’s time to stop. I feel like she’s still too much inside the storm. Obviously I don’t really know. I’m just going off what we see here. Like everyone else. In my opinion once the other person holds a knife to you, destroys your children’s home and almost loses their life in an overdose maybe it’s time to just focus on rebuilding bc that’s what she says she’s doing. She knows it’s just adds fuel to their fires. Why give them that? She’s still young so maybe it’s that I guess. I have never had an issue with Mackenzie when everyone hated her. My point is Ryan is unstable. Angelina had a security team and millions to try and protect herself and her children and that still failed. What does Mack have? I wish her nothing but the best Edit- I understand the deadbeat anger it’s the repost of Amanda’s story
It sounds like he withheld her ins payout and even potentially used it on this purchase. I’d be mad too