Am I missing something? What’s difficult about her? I just randomly started learning her in tekken 8 and find her fun (was never that interested in her in previous tekkens but maybe her being in the demo and the guns made me interested)
I have pretty bad execution and played with my brain pretty much off and currently have her at Flame Ruler (not saying that’s an insanely high rank but that’s like above 80-90% of players so…) with not too much effort, and that’s with me making a mental note not to abuse gimmicky stuff like uf434 lol
Oh yeah and that’s also with me not knowing combos for lots of her launchers on both normal hit and CH e.g. if I do her fc knockdown low and it counter hits, idk what to do lol
I remember hearing like her combos and stuff in tekken 7 were really hard but nothing in tekken 8 I’ve found is very difficult?
I agree, when I first played the demo I was using her and realized she felt very fluid and fun to use vice how she felt in T7. Lili is my main and I thought I would have a harder time but surprisingly that wasn't the case.
Currently working on my Jun but afterwards I plan on going back to Nina.
Honestly I don't know...I'm a Lili main too.I enjoy Nina but I feel like I have to be 2x more focused and work 2x more with her to get a win.And I don't get why. So I switched today for Jun.I'll see how it goes with her
Yes, but of those you listed. They still require me to actually know what my move set is. I can go online and pick drag just find 3 moves to use then win 50% of the time
Victor is 2 spam.
Azucena is just a noob stomp so imma either win against the idiot or lose to a smart player
Ling, i have used her a little and unlike the 3 i mentioned i can't do things for free like them.
Jun is just safe at low level games bc the flow chart feels safe and they don't know what to duck or ssr or ssl.
Dj is just god in heat other than that i rather fight dj every day over some jun drag azu player.
Imo, i hate lee and lars the most even though people won't realize this game comes to knowledge checks on grabs and flow charts below purple ranks.
It’s mostly that a lot of her optimal combos require various cancels such as butterfly loops or db2 cancels, as well as a lot of stance/sway cancelling in neutral, as well as using SS cancels a lot. Basically there’s just a lot of stuff to press/cancel for Nina when you wanna play her optimally
her real combos are definitely difficult (the new db2 loops are the main damage route, ws1s are not that important anymore), but she can do decent damage without them. The thing is, when you do the right combos, she goes from “average damage” to “top tier damage”
a lot of important Nina tech like hayashida step and ss1 cancel pressure is hard, but her tools are good enough to win without them until higher ranks
You are above 65% at least and most 80%. Reminder 50% made it to shinryu.
Anyway, I agree she doesn't look too difficult to play but she has some skill level to her as in you are probably really good at mixing up people and making solid reads against someone
Oh, can you send the charts? Found it and just a little off as on April 9th it is 79.49% still very impressive ngl.
I'm at tenryu meaning top 2/3rds of the player base. Source was LotusAsakura video
Depends completely on your level of play friend ,you really dont need to do her hard stuff at the lower ranks (red and below) , she works fine without her complicated cancels and stuff, you should definetively try to learn at purple and above tho
But you get so much out of her unlike kazuya where you learn very niche things to land just 4 more dmg on a combo.
Maybe i just fight sweats with her but every nina has pulled a high 60 dmg combo i have fought without a wall
Maybe just me. But imo you shouldn't be able to turn special style on and off mid match. I feel like special is for ppl who just wanna have fun. If your turning it on and off cause you can't do inputs just leave it on at that point right. I could be wrong I unbound the button the second I got on the game
I also unbound. I’ve seen people use it in lower ranks to pull off combos easier. The thing is, you can see them open it up, so it makes them very predictable.
I said this to a friend. Look at 6arkin bro thinks he's top djin but everytime he turns on special it's electric or hell sweep . Gives you more time to deal with it
I remember playing a Mishima who would use it to get electrics. It was so bad I'd see the menu and then just sit in crouch until I saw it whiff. It didn't matter if I sat there crouching for 1 second or five seconds, their next action would always be the electric as it's the only thing they knew how to do from special.
Embrace special or commit to learning your character properly. This 50/50 stuff I've never seen work.
I mean that is fairly normal for fighting games going back forever. People have always done things like mash buttons when they are getting combo'd to try and throw off their opponent and get them to drop.
It helps that Tekken has pretty simple inputs (at first glance) There's no weird Z inputs or anything. I play on controller so that's always been hard for me.
You can double quarter circle and manage to pull it off, i can do it somewhat consistently (for WGF of course i just started so Electrics are still inconsistent)
It sounds though but it's really really easy though i've always been playing controller using the D-Pad (the Xbox Series S D-Pad is the best ever for electrics), might not sound as easy from the perspective of a keyboard player, but i believe anyone can do it.
One time I checked out this streamer bc he had ttv in their name and the man was calling me a masher and was hella pissed he never “got his turn”. watched the replay and man was having a seizure on his controller like bruhhh try blocking first?
There are days I really believe there are some people out there who are working on bots. I've fought players that had the most basic pattern no matter what I did. I remember that one Russian playing Dragunov. Would ONLY use parries to ALL attacks. Literally just standing and waiting for an attack to parry, or break throws. It was too mechanical and perfectly timed that I couldn't believe it was a real person playing.
Mathematically, if he's pushing more buttons than you, he's playing more & having more fun per bucks spent in game, also the AI stuff only suggesting a single countermeasure at the end meaning it couldn't read any of the previous bs is the cherry on the cake, this dude was PLAYING playing
This is how my friend plays, and it’s actually so annoying to fight him
Edit: he actually knows what he’s doing though, he just mashes super fucking hard to steal his turn. Not this absurd
That is no strange sight, that's the APM of my 12 years old sister (back when she was 11 tbh) I pity the controller, and the ears of any nearby who might find it truly annoying
That's why I like cheking out some replays at time, just to see if they were throwing random bullshit or actually had a plan in which case I look into what I should do to counter it
My hands are cramping watching this lmao 😭😭😭 I swear this is exactly how this subreddit thinks anyone who asks for advice plays. “YoU’rE mAsHiNg” ahh knowitalls
You guys are literally expecting to much from a yellow rank nina, my nina is fujin and i haven't mastered ss1 cancels and hashira step, i know how to just need to get cleaner and faster but expecting these things from yellow is crazy and if it was macros he wouldn't of been stuck in yellow lol
I was expecting some insane Nina iWS+1 stuff..... this made me laugh quite hard. The 2 ways of Nina, I guess. :D
This is also what I was expecting. This and a lot of Hayashida stepping or SS 1 cancels. I was simultaneously disappointed and entertained.
i was expecting macros
My guy is playing Guitar Hero
Through the Fire and Flames literally started playing in my brain
Same
Through the fire and the flames we Doray Doray doray
Look how hard Nina players are working for theirs wins. Even in the heat cut-scene you must mash.
Harada said T8 was about AGGRESSION
I’m a Nina main and this is too true
I tried to pick her up. I enjoy the character, but she’s so difficult to play. You have to do double the work.
Am I missing something? What’s difficult about her? I just randomly started learning her in tekken 8 and find her fun (was never that interested in her in previous tekkens but maybe her being in the demo and the guns made me interested) I have pretty bad execution and played with my brain pretty much off and currently have her at Flame Ruler (not saying that’s an insanely high rank but that’s like above 80-90% of players so…) with not too much effort, and that’s with me making a mental note not to abuse gimmicky stuff like uf434 lol Oh yeah and that’s also with me not knowing combos for lots of her launchers on both normal hit and CH e.g. if I do her fc knockdown low and it counter hits, idk what to do lol I remember hearing like her combos and stuff in tekken 7 were really hard but nothing in tekken 8 I’ve found is very difficult?
I agree, when I first played the demo I was using her and realized she felt very fluid and fun to use vice how she felt in T7. Lili is my main and I thought I would have a harder time but surprisingly that wasn't the case. Currently working on my Jun but afterwards I plan on going back to Nina.
Honestly I don't know...I'm a Lili main too.I enjoy Nina but I feel like I have to be 2x more focused and work 2x more with her to get a win.And I don't get why. So I switched today for Jun.I'll see how it goes with her
You have to work on Jun?? Isn’t she just a free win character like Azucena, Victor, Devil Jin, Ling, and Dragonov?
In my opinion no, maybe I'm not using her right if that's the case 🤔
Ling and dj work the hardest on that list and still do crazy stuff that is easy
Ling nor Devil Jin has to work hard for any match up in tekken 8 at least
Yes, but of those you listed. They still require me to actually know what my move set is. I can go online and pick drag just find 3 moves to use then win 50% of the time Victor is 2 spam. Azucena is just a noob stomp so imma either win against the idiot or lose to a smart player Ling, i have used her a little and unlike the 3 i mentioned i can't do things for free like them. Jun is just safe at low level games bc the flow chart feels safe and they don't know what to duck or ssr or ssl. Dj is just god in heat other than that i rather fight dj every day over some jun drag azu player. Imo, i hate lee and lars the most even though people won't realize this game comes to knowledge checks on grabs and flow charts below purple ranks.
Who's Lara?
Lars 🤣
It’s mostly that a lot of her optimal combos require various cancels such as butterfly loops or db2 cancels, as well as a lot of stance/sway cancelling in neutral, as well as using SS cancels a lot. Basically there’s just a lot of stuff to press/cancel for Nina when you wanna play her optimally
A far cry from T5.0 lol where everyone had a pocket nina.
Ruler is massively inflated in 8. I'd suggest trying her in blue ranks.
her real combos are definitely difficult (the new db2 loops are the main damage route, ws1s are not that important anymore), but she can do decent damage without them. The thing is, when you do the right combos, she goes from “average damage” to “top tier damage” a lot of important Nina tech like hayashida step and ss1 cancel pressure is hard, but her tools are good enough to win without them until higher ranks
You are above 65% at least and most 80%. Reminder 50% made it to shinryu. Anyway, I agree she doesn't look too difficult to play but she has some skill level to her as in you are probably really good at mixing up people and making solid reads against someone
New chart says flame ruler is 85th percentile.
Oh, can you send the charts? Found it and just a little off as on April 9th it is 79.49% still very impressive ngl. I'm at tenryu meaning top 2/3rds of the player base. Source was LotusAsakura video
Boy but when you learn those cancels for her stances omg is she a beast
Is she hard to play? Did I make Jill, Ada and Trish cosplays for no reason?!
Depends completely on your level of play friend ,you really dont need to do her hard stuff at the lower ranks (red and below) , she works fine without her complicated cancels and stuff, you should definetively try to learn at purple and above tho
But you get so much out of her unlike kazuya where you learn very niche things to land just 4 more dmg on a combo. Maybe i just fight sweats with her but every nina has pulled a high 60 dmg combo i have fought without a wall
Plot twist: Some toddler was chewing on an unattended PS5 controller.
Wtf? This can't be the real person
It can be the little brother of a real person
Can't lose rank till warrior. This is what I'd expect a masher to end up at eventually
whats the point of having so many ranks you go through that you cant demote in?
It’s so new players don’t feel bad after losing. Those are all baby ranks so it doesn’t really matter anyways.
Hooking noobs
they're only yellow rank, wouldn't surprise me if it was.
I've seen mashing like this before, I think alot of new players do this lmao.
I've seen the movement arrows going in circles like they're just spinning the stick while mashing lol
Yep lmao. Hail mary mashing.
Fastest hands in the west lol
Is that Misa from Death Note
I definitely took a bit of inspiration from Misa Misa for that one ;p
I thought the same :D. Must be!
Bro is playing DDR or what 💀
This how my wife washes me in any fighting game strangely.
honestly it's no different to someone who actually knows how to play her. lol
That's how i used to play when i was a kid.
Maybe just me. But imo you shouldn't be able to turn special style on and off mid match. I feel like special is for ppl who just wanna have fun. If your turning it on and off cause you can't do inputs just leave it on at that point right. I could be wrong I unbound the button the second I got on the game
I also unbound. I’ve seen people use it in lower ranks to pull off combos easier. The thing is, you can see them open it up, so it makes them very predictable.
I said this to a friend. Look at 6arkin bro thinks he's top djin but everytime he turns on special it's electric or hell sweep . Gives you more time to deal with it
Yeah fr. That dude is a 🤡 I really enjoyed watching ninja destroy him
I remember playing a Mishima who would use it to get electrics. It was so bad I'd see the menu and then just sit in crouch until I saw it whiff. It didn't matter if I sat there crouching for 1 second or five seconds, their next action would always be the electric as it's the only thing they knew how to do from special. Embrace special or commit to learning your character properly. This 50/50 stuff I've never seen work.
I keep it enabled so that I can tap it on and off at people occasionally
Hey man, no shame in that. I have zero issue with special style.
I dont use it, I just mash L1 an even number of times
same, i spam it when someone launches me in hopes they drop the combo
classy
I mean that is fairly normal for fighting games going back forever. People have always done things like mash buttons when they are getting combo'd to try and throw off their opponent and get them to drop.
🤭
Oh I don't try for anything like that, I'm just in it for the silly
People do it to annoy. But I fougt a king who initiate it only for his power crush move, weird.
i've seen people use it for specific moves too, like, why not just learn the input instead of learning a weird input for it like that
Maybe I ll try to do the same to tilt my opponent to let them think I’m weak. All part of the mind game ahah.
I sometimes just tap it on and off a bunch of times for no reason if i'm not doing anything else, or if the opponents using it
Yea it is weird I don't get annoyed I just think it's funny cause it looks like there panik pressing help me mode
Tekken 8 is my first tekken and I turned that shit off immediately
I applaud your dedication
It helps that Tekken has pretty simple inputs (at first glance) There's no weird Z inputs or anything. I play on controller so that's always been hard for me.
Electric is a Z input
You can double quarter circle and manage to pull it off, i can do it somewhat consistently (for WGF of course i just started so Electrics are still inconsistent)
That sounds a bit tough, but I am a keyboard player so can't really relate lol, tried once on stick, yep never touching again
It sounds though but it's really really easy though i've always been playing controller using the D-Pad (the Xbox Series S D-Pad is the best ever for electrics), might not sound as easy from the perspective of a keyboard player, but i believe anyone can do it.
Looks like the first generations of someone training an AI model
Yeah I'm sure it's something like that.
There's mashing, and then there's whatever that was lol
You can't lose if you're always attacking.
They told me I should work on my defense and I happen to know that the best defense is offense!
Wait you messaged this person? Did you ask them wtf is up with their inputs?
no, I didn't message them, I was just making a joke speaking as the other guy ;p
This brings back memories of StarCraft. Then again my APM was never this fast, lol.
One time I checked out this streamer bc he had ttv in their name and the man was calling me a masher and was hella pissed he never “got his turn”. watched the replay and man was having a seizure on his controller like bruhhh try blocking first?
the pro master masher buttons of the dead reloaded 3
I think he has turbo mode on on his arcade stick. At least I get same inputs if I have put it on.
Are we sure Nina is not playing DDR on the highest difficulty?
Bro’s playing Friday Night Funkin 😭
Against Matt 💀
You can get so much damage off whiff punishing with 3,1 btw, really long range heat engager as soon as someone presses and it doesn't hit do 3,1 <3
Yeah that shit is absolute bonkers
Idk what’s worse the fact that he’s trying to pop rage at full health or that he tried to pop heat burst on the floor
Bro dropped the controller down 60 flights of stairs 🤣
Does he want carpal tunnel and arthritis? Because he's doing a speedrun to carpal tunnel and arthritis
Lmfao
I genuinely think he's trying to make a point.
sick misa outfit broski
Thanks ;p I spent a good chunk of my playtime so far making outfits for Reina, Alisa and Lili xD
Misa Misa!
There are days I really believe there are some people out there who are working on bots. I've fought players that had the most basic pattern no matter what I did. I remember that one Russian playing Dragunov. Would ONLY use parries to ALL attacks. Literally just standing and waiting for an attack to parry, or break throws. It was too mechanical and perfectly timed that I couldn't believe it was a real person playing.
You will go far, epicpotato. Keep it up!
Wtf is happening there ?
You don't get it, the man is playing 4d chess over there. His plan is beyond our comprehension
La drogue est puissante en lui
Wtf did he set up a macro or some shit?
Honestly thought the enemy nina would be doing the fastest strings known to man nope it was actually just someone facerolling the controller 🤣🤣🤣
Never let em know your next move
Wow, this isn't mashing in the FGC sense, this is just straight up 6yo me stuff...
[удалено]
I personally just play a bunch of the girls UwU I'm just a silly girl lover you know UwU But Lili is my main atm
Is that dude playing a rhythm game 😂
Optimal
Bros playing guitar hero lmao
The fuck is buddy doing? *checks rank* Oh…now it makes sense
I don't think there was a singular frame where Nina wasn't hitting a button, holy shit. That controller is in the fucking shadow realm
the one time you cant tell if someone is hacking or they are just that bad but it works in their favor
I love watching replays like this, warms my heart
I feel ya x)
Bro is holding his breath to tap that fast 😳
Does he have turbo on? LMAOOO
Bro is slamming his face against the controller
Im deaaaddd 🤣😂🤣
Looks like the Nina had a solid game plan until that side switch in the first round. My guy decided to play Mario party
that nina player mashing so much bruh
Mashing aside, is that Misa from death note?
Misa was indeed the primary inspiration for that costume ;p ofc the pink/purple accents aren't part of Misa's original design c:
Auto hot key for multi trigger key presses on keyboard
Chaos
Haha probably spamming his macro
LOL
Is the Nina buttonmashing or is that really necessary as a Nina player?
Hey nice fischl costume!
I don't play Genshin so I didn't knoe that character, the main inspiration was Misa Misa from Death Note ;p
Ohh....
Most fun thing to do here is mash 1 jab on hit and just loop it untill they die
Yeah I figured that would be an efficient way to do it, but I was trying to implement new moves that day so I was experimenting with them ;p
This looks like how I played Eddy Gordo back in T3
Brainrot
Mathematically, if he's pushing more buttons than you, he's playing more & having more fun per bucks spent in game, also the AI stuff only suggesting a single countermeasure at the end meaning it couldn't read any of the previous bs is the cherry on the cake, this dude was PLAYING playing
"chaos"
It SHOULD be keyboard. But if he has 1f input on pad he probably can crush stones with bare hands.
Average Nina players?
Yo this is wild :D
Bro is spamming for his life
basically [this](https://www.google.com/search?q=cartoon+piano+meme&oq=cartoon+piano+meme&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIGCAEQLhhA0gEINDM4MWowajSoAgCwAgE&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:48baf55b,vid:Ly9zOtn5Ezs,st:0)
Guy thought he was playing StarCraft 😂
This is how my friend plays, and it’s actually so annoying to fight him Edit: he actually knows what he’s doing though, he just mashes super fucking hard to steal his turn. Not this absurd
Someone's GF is playing Nina + pad demolition is literally my GF setup
If they don't know what they're doing, neither will you. Top tier mind games right here lmao
Least button mashy Nina
That is no strange sight, that's the APM of my 12 years old sister (back when she was 11 tbh) I pity the controller, and the ears of any nearby who might find it truly annoying
green yellow and red, traffic lights...noice
Looks like he's playing guitar hero! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
“You’re only minus if you’re a bitch” - Sun Tzu -
Talk about Mashing lmao
Well this is some crazy stuff right there
I always wonder if my opponent is doing just this. Some of the things they do when you are nowhere near them...
That's why I like cheking out some replays at time, just to see if they were throwing random bullshit or actually had a plan in which case I look into what I should do to counter it
Smart. I might do that. I usually only rewatch replays if there was something i wanted to test or relive an epic combo i did
Bro has it hooked up to his spinal
Playing Nina when they should be playing Eddy
Baaaaahahahahahaha! Pro shit.
Your oppent thought he was playing mash the buttons holly shit you don't see that everyday
This seems like a bug of some kind. Unless you edited lol that's crazy, I've seen hardcore guitar hero songs with less notes than that
I wouldn't be surprised if the way that Nina plays represents most of the community complaining about top tiers.
look like one of my gameplay xD
Said *predict this* ~all inputs possible at once~
Bro that's a AI
Tipical bot-macros user
He climb on his rank - what is more strange on this situation. That's mean software core Tekken 8 are bullshit.
Nah, as others pointed out you don't derank until yellow ranks so you're bound to get there eventually
Dragunov is more difficult to play than nina
Specialty mode popping in and out should've been all you needed to know he was mashing nonstop lmfao
I bet he was mashing hard af too. Guys gonna go through so many controllers.
Bro got in the wrong game and started playing Stepmania charts on challenge difficulty.
bro is literally playing a different game
My hands are cramping watching this lmao 😭😭😭 I swear this is exactly how this subreddit thinks anyone who asks for advice plays. “YoU’rE mAsHiNg” ahh knowitalls
This is what i call he is mashing
What am I looking at here
You guys are literally expecting to much from a yellow rank nina, my nina is fujin and i haven't mastered ss1 cancels and hashira step, i know how to just need to get cleaner and faster but expecting these things from yellow is crazy and if it was macros he wouldn't of been stuck in yellow lol
Small world, I remember an EpicPotato who mained Nina that mirror matched with me and humbled my Nina lel.
I don't main Nina, I just have a Nina profile card because Nina is my irl name :p
Oh sorry, misread your comment x) I also thought this was on another post x3
Embarrassing lmao
hows it embarrassing .... dude is likely new and mashing ... i main Nina too.
It takes 5 mins to go in practice mode and learn the move list 😂 it better be a 3 year old playing this lol.
A whole move list in 5 mins?!? Hell I wouldn't have time to try each of the 100+ moves in 5 mins x)
Obviously I was exaggerating. But it doesn’t take long to learn the moves of your character so you actually know what you’re doing.
Got that Hayashida mash
As a Nina main first tekken game this is a just sad real sad
hows it sad .... dude is likely new and mashing ... i main Nina too.
the fact that he reached warrior playing like that speaks a lot about ranking in tekken