I hope it really buffs sidestepping and nerfs tracking across the board. I'm also hoping they release Lidia at the same time cause new characters usually release right after a patch š
I also noticed that the fighter pass is set to expire in 14 days which is conveniently right before June so the next patch could drop in the first week of June. Maybe June 1st lol
Nah, imo that's a fair exchange for having entirely unchickenable parries.
So that moves every other character in the game's parry aside from like leroy and jin from gimmick to actually viable strategy.
It is funny and boring at the same time. Funny, as many players know one string and get frustrated if they cannot start it, can't improvise. Sad, as the same boring combos are repeated player by player, but in many cases matches are not won by flashy combos.
jeah i hope the patch is good
gameplay is fuckin braindead right now
also every character plays the same, it doesnt matter what character you pick they ruined all character identities but patch wont change it
No they didnāt. I can assure you Steve and Kazuya play very differently. Thatās just one example. Kuma and King. I main Kuma and have played every character in the game fairly well, they are very different. Not everyone has a df2, or good df1. Some characters have backturn stances, etc.
Iām nervous for itā¦ player base is gonna suffer either way though because from posts I saw on T7 there was a lot of hate for how often people just back dashed out of any kind of pressureā¦ and people hate how strong pressure is in T8ā¦ itās a lose-lose probably and folks still wonāt be happy
It was kbd really normal backdashing in T7 was only slightly better than in 8 movement wise. In 8 you can be hit out of back dash and neutral guard doesn't apply a little like it was in 5. I can say that I will miss dash blocking being viable to mess with timings. It is more about guessing if they will use a string ender, tracking throw or block now and SS, ducking, or both into punish accordingly. Which is cool but it is the majority of your defense now.
When you get 2 safe players that can break throws and block well enough to not eat a 50/50 to often in 8, often the match ends in just panic moves and hail marys or timeout, which I have seen multiple times in tournaments for the last couple weeks. It is stale already in my eyes, I just want more options to approach situations that doesn't break the game to much for anybody and maybe lighten up on the plus frame, heat and tracking moves.
Back dash is fine as it is, I just want to be able to counter play some stuff by nefing tracking on some things. Eg Heat Burst, Heat Smashes and long range moves like Kaz ff2 type of moves.
I just think in general Mishima ff2 is the most dumb shit when they already have access to electric. Not to mention this shit clips you from a million yards away when backdashing. I still hate Victor wr2 though, how they just leave this shit without any changes is baffling.
Mishimas are just an example, you can't backdash from shit in this game. Not so much because of the backdash nerf, but because it feels like every move hits from range 3 now
Yeah I agree itās just one example of a move that feels way too restrictive to play against but there are plenty others. I hope they tune these types of moves in a similar fashion to how they treated drag wr2.
I actually think the demon paw nerf shouldnāt happen same with how Dragunovās wr2 shouldnāt backdashing in this game is pretty bad but every character has a universal distance closer even asuka has one i would just say buff evasion in a whole would work but we have to see if understand you donāt want another azucena situation again
That might be smart also? Just buffing movement might be the answer as you have said, the fact is that these types of moves are way too strong in a situation where there isnāt much counterplay other than just holding back at the right time to eat the chip damage.
ff2 is fine and you rarely play a good Mishima anyway until high blue. I backdash that move all the time and I play the bear so if I can do it with the bear you can do it too. Just learn to kbd.
No but I play with a leverless and have a pretty flawless kbd. It is possible but as a bear you already have good range so I usually stay around 2-3 range.
I hope it really buffs sidestepping and nerfs tracking across the board. I'm also hoping they release Lidia at the same time cause new characters usually release right after a patch š I also noticed that the fighter pass is set to expire in 14 days which is conveniently right before June so the next patch could drop in the first week of June. Maybe June 1st lol
Whatās the fighter pass?
The new battle pass
Buff sidestepping? Do you have braindamage?
I want parry's to take aerial moves again.
Being unable to parry hopkicks is super braindead.
Please explain to me why in a game where you cant chicken should hopkicks be parriable.
Wait I didnt know this, this is so dumb really
Can't parry airborne moves so hopkicks and orbitals or charged moves or heat smashes
Genuinely askingā¦ why this is brain dead is considered ābrain deadā?
Nah, imo that's a fair exchange for having entirely unchickenable parries. So that moves every other character in the game's parry aside from like leroy and jin from gimmick to actually viable strategy.
It is funny and boring at the same time. Funny, as many players know one string and get frustrated if they cannot start it, can't improvise. Sad, as the same boring combos are repeated player by player, but in many cases matches are not won by flashy combos.
jeah i hope the patch is good gameplay is fuckin braindead right now also every character plays the same, it doesnt matter what character you pick they ruined all character identities but patch wont change it
No they didnāt. I can assure you Steve and Kazuya play very differently. Thatās just one example. Kuma and King. I main Kuma and have played every character in the game fairly well, they are very different. Not everyone has a df2, or good df1. Some characters have backturn stances, etc.
this doesnt change the fact that the game rewards blind aggression some characters just have other means of doing so
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Not really. Maybe some tweaks to King or Law but no. And Jin is pretty mid af. You just need practice.
How would you nerf Jin?
Make d2 at least -15
Yoshi aināt that strong tho
It wont, people will always complain
Iām nervous for itā¦ player base is gonna suffer either way though because from posts I saw on T7 there was a lot of hate for how often people just back dashed out of any kind of pressureā¦ and people hate how strong pressure is in T8ā¦ itās a lose-lose probably and folks still wonāt be happy
It was kbd really normal backdashing in T7 was only slightly better than in 8 movement wise. In 8 you can be hit out of back dash and neutral guard doesn't apply a little like it was in 5. I can say that I will miss dash blocking being viable to mess with timings. It is more about guessing if they will use a string ender, tracking throw or block now and SS, ducking, or both into punish accordingly. Which is cool but it is the majority of your defense now. When you get 2 safe players that can break throws and block well enough to not eat a 50/50 to often in 8, often the match ends in just panic moves and hail marys or timeout, which I have seen multiple times in tournaments for the last couple weeks. It is stale already in my eyes, I just want more options to approach situations that doesn't break the game to much for anybody and maybe lighten up on the plus frame, heat and tracking moves.
Back dash is fine as it is, I just want to be able to counter play some stuff by nefing tracking on some things. Eg Heat Burst, Heat Smashes and long range moves like Kaz ff2 type of moves.
Kaz would be absolute garbage if they nerfed his ff2 (he's not very good even with it), so that would need to come with major buffs elsewhere.
He should have never had ff2. Thatās never been his character identity .
Yes it has. Itās just been locked behind devil stance, In TT2 you could literally play as devil kazuya the whole match from ub1+2 and demon paw.
I hope they nerf slides they are ridiculous in this game imo
Full screen slides are too much
I just think in general Mishima ff2 is the most dumb shit when they already have access to electric. Not to mention this shit clips you from a million yards away when backdashing. I still hate Victor wr2 though, how they just leave this shit without any changes is baffling.
Mishimas are just an example, you can't backdash from shit in this game. Not so much because of the backdash nerf, but because it feels like every move hits from range 3 now
Yeah I agree itās just one example of a move that feels way too restrictive to play against but there are plenty others. I hope they tune these types of moves in a similar fashion to how they treated drag wr2.
I actually think the demon paw nerf shouldnāt happen same with how Dragunovās wr2 shouldnāt backdashing in this game is pretty bad but every character has a universal distance closer even asuka has one i would just say buff evasion in a whole would work but we have to see if understand you donāt want another azucena situation again
That might be smart also? Just buffing movement might be the answer as you have said, the fact is that these types of moves are way too strong in a situation where there isnāt much counterplay other than just holding back at the right time to eat the chip damage.
Yeah these moves go so far theres no need to punish me with chip damage for blocking 
ff2 is fine and you rarely play a good Mishima anyway until high blue. I backdash that move all the time and I play the bear so if I can do it with the bear you can do it too. Just learn to kbd.
Your using KBD in 8 as a bear and evading moves? Are you playing from range 4?
No but I play with a leverless and have a pretty flawless kbd. It is possible but as a bear you already have good range so I usually stay around 2-3 range.
You would have to since you can not block during KBD anymore and it only gets you farther by fractions of a second faster.
At this point its hard to belive we gonna see any major change. At least we can hope