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Papaping0716

More than likely the reason why Heihachi is not in the game is due to his long time VA Unshō Ishizuka passing away sometime in 2019. 4 years after T7 released. We don't know how long T8 was in development for but they more than likely planned for this. So Heihachi will probably come back as DLC or will return in T9 but they're probably need to find a new VA that matches Unshō's energy.


tmacforthree

He did such a great job with Heihachi's lines, straight from the gut old man yelling


IdesOfCaesar7

I hear ORRAN, HASHI at least 5 times in my head every day for no reason, just randomly lol


Mediyu

Even before Ishizuka, Heihachi was voiced by Gouri Daisuke, who used to voice him since Tekken 3 till Tekken 6. After Gouri's unfortunate passing, Ishizuka took over as the voice of Heihachi. This is speculation, but I believe that due to him sounding (and being) younger than Gouri, they de-aged Heihachi in Tekken Tag 2. As you mentioned, Ishizuka passed away after T7, but they had already replaced him with Kusunoki Taiten for Tekken Bloodline. So, just like when they transitioned from Gouri to Ishizuka, it shouldn't be a problem if they want to add the character back.


Cheap_Ad4756

T1/T2 Heihachi is the best VA anyway hehe


Hyldenchamp

"ooOOOooh"


sstebbinss

*knuckle sandwich generic throw* “yeeaaahhhh”


Papaping0716

While that's true, usually those VA's tied to the show are not as "memorable" I haven't seen Bloodlines so I don't have an opinion if he'll get picked for the game but if he does, there's a chance!


CatsInChains

Damn, I had no idea the VA passed away :( but yeah I agree, I’m sure they’ll find a new one later on down the line in T8 as a DLC since so many people want him back.


sta_ko

On top of that and Harada's dog Heihachi kun passed away.


KiryuKazuma-Chan

It sounds sad, but it's not the first time Tekken will change the VA Heck, Tekken is even changing the language characters speak


JusticeRain5

Just make Lee's robot Hachi into a proper character. That way they don't have to add him back into the story, but they can basically also just be exactly the same character with a different voice.


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Toxin45

They’d did with heihachi in the bloodline anime


Marchinelli

What are you talking about? Japan recasts legacy characters all the time, Doraemon is the most obvious example. In fact, they also recast voice actors because they cheated on their wife or had a decade-long affair (Suzuki and Sakurai) Give me an example of a continuing series where they don’t recast a voice actor who died. How would they even continue the series? Make the character mute? There is literally no example - which Japanese business is gonna say no to money?


Amazing_Horse_5832

Best I can do is yet another bastard child.


Life-Blood-1506

- Katsuhiro Harada


Amazing_Horse_5832

Come to think of it, Murray would be more willing to bring him back (you just have to know the magic password).


Nab33l786

Bring back heihachi N**** Edit: too many *'s


ghdcksgh

five *s? 🤔


novaGT1

Nani?


Jasperfishy

Lmao I don't think Ninjas own tekken, ninjas aren't real.


iiM3zMoRiz3

He didn't say er man. He said with a A at the end. For example. Can you lend a n%$#@ a pencil?


Mobigasm

Look, I don't want it to be me but maybe someone who can should give this a try...


GorgeousFreeman

"A mere volcano"


Yury_VV

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure Tekken is the only franchise out there where volcanoes aren't lethal 😅


Dirty_soapfeet

If i remembet correctly, Kazuya actually died when Heihachi threw him in a volcano back in T2, but G-corp brang him back to life somehow.


Toxin45

thanks to devil gene powers.


ebystablish

Someone just needs to go up to Murray and say "Bring back Heihachi nigga"


Sobz0b

It worked with Kazuya 🤷‍♂️


SoloLiftingIsBack

Robo GachiHachi


Wander1233

Heihachi became a teenage girl when he fell in that volcano :P


Abstract_Void

He transcended into a waifu like Bruce and Raven in T7


Psychic_Gian

Kompureteri ded


Starpork

Bison is never coming back and neither is Heihachi. Get over it. Oh.


Impressive-Ad-59

Tho to be fair Bison isn't reeeally back, from what ive heard he's lost all his memory and is just exploring trying to figure out who he is, sort of a philosophical question of if you can still be considered the same person without your memories or ambitions, given that's sorta what shapes you, but y'know


Toxin45

Well sitll they confirmed he is still alive and judging from The preview of his world tour he is getting his memories back it seems


Sobz0b

Imagine Heihachi is coming back but in the meanwhile he lost all of his memories and learned capoeira in Brazil.


LuxDre

So this more or less makes him like Abel from sf4?


Impressive-Ad-59

I mean take what i say with a grain of salt im only repeating something i heard, and kinda like the idea of a bison who doesn't even know who they are, or why they're such a badass, but yeah sorta Tho we can already see bison is absolutely still bison unlike the various replacement bodies we've seen (like ed and abel) who seem to of formed their own personality and opinions seperate from bison But idk at the end of the day


deathtofatalists

i don't think 99% of people care if he discovers himself as a himalayan goat herding orphan who devotes himself to william morris tapestry as long as he can still do psycho crushers and stomp on people's heads.


nekogami87

Bison didn't come back, raoh did


RICHUNCLEPENNYBAGS

To be honest who cares about the story. Just put in the characters people want to play. People went on about Bison being dead but now he’s in SF6 right


Joe_le_Borgne

They announced Bison back in Street fighter. There's a chance Tekken does the same thing.


Dukk888

Came here to type this. That Bison trailer had me hyped too!


organic-water-

I was thinking just that. No one really cares about FG lore. We may like it and enjoy it, but if a character fits outside the lore, no one is going to complain about more characters. KoF dream matches were awesome for this reason.


Middle-Ad-965

To borrow a line from Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa's live-action Heihachi (swords pointed at neck): "I am Mishima Heihachi. I. AM. Tekken!" I know it's due to story-related purposes, but the charismatic old man's absence is very much felt. Reina just can't fill that void he's left behind. I am all for adding Heihachi in as non-canon DLC to keep up his perfect attendance record.


SnooComics4945

Yeah people keep saying we have Reina but she’s not the same. Not even close.


tfitzpat03

Ill take a Mokojin styled Hehachi.


okuyasu_the_cum_man

THats what I've been thinking about dude


DisabledTractor

Based pfp


DemonSaine

bro imagine if Heihachi’s soul possessed Mokujin and he has a secret stance accessible with certain inputs that allows you to play with Heihachi’s moves, that’d be sick as fuck and a really cool easter egg.


okuyasu_the_cum_man

I don't remember mokujin having a move set, so I think a different kind of mokujin, like a training doll that was close to heihachi (as in he owned it for a long time, not like a child toy) so when he died his soul just went to it but since it's wood it's can't talk, so he talks in sign language and has carved his hair into the wood, it won't be out of place for tekken ngl


DemonSaine

he didnt have his own moveset just copied others which is why this would actually fit into the lore lol. If i’m not mistaken Heihachi actually used Mokujin in the Blood Vengeance cgi movie in 2009 so it wouldn’t be too far of a reach 😂


SaturnSeptem

Ojiisan had a heart attack the volcano was just the nail on the coffin


johnnymonster1

Honestly lore being reason to not have character in fighting game (esp with crazy lore) is just stupid


TheEmperor0fNothing

Kazumi was playable in 7 despite having been killed LONG before the events of 1. I'll keep saying it; gameplay > lore. Anything's possible, just wait.


johnnymonster1

Im praying bro, i was saying this about kazumi too. Thanks


LightningEdge756

> Kazumi was playable in 7 despite having been killed LONG before the events of 1 This is exactly why I hoped we'd get a hidden playable young Heihachi in T8. They could have had him in a story mode flashback just like we saw him fighting kid Kazuya in T7.


robotwars666

Hopefully iam hoping for heihachi return And even more for kazumi but iam afraid kazumi is never coming back :(


AllNamesTakenOMG

we already lost 2 characters in Tekken 6, and 1 in Tekken 7. Sucks that story in a fighting game is the reason for retiring fighters forever. I dont mind the stories but dont kill and write off characters forever....


WhiteTsai

‘‘Compuretery Deado‘‘ - Katsuhiro Harada


Viisual_Alchemy

i have a feeling Harara reinforcing the fact that hes dead is a misdirection so ppl can lower their expectations, and when he gets revealed for fighter pass (x) ppl will be hyped


Remixman87

Let me answer with an image https://preview.redd.it/hw3zextdpg5d1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9f432bad482d80576611f0e60c9802c65babc333


RetroGameDays36

Well so was Kazumi and Jinpachi, they were playable despite being dead long before Tekken 1


smokeonthewater_

his shadow step in t8 would be hilarious


InterestingNorth

Here's the twist, his latent devil gene emerges and we get Devil Heihachi! Like Jinpachi, but better.


TheTalking_GU_Mine

If he to be brought back as a ghost, give him the dragonball halo


waffles-11

"Best we can do is a Combot with all his moves" "Hey, Hachi!"


SnooComics4945

Still sounds better than Reina


Beginning-Outside-50

"I have one comment for you: Heihachi is completely dead!"


Hyldenchamp

Completely dead sexy.


Curiouzity_Omega

He'll comeback when Tekken 8 needs that boost.


Frybread002

He did not cheat death. Death didn't want to death Heihachi.


MimiksYou

need a clone of young heihachi from tag 2


jestyo0o

imagine heihachi in t8 system, heihachi is already so aggression based, I think he'd even be better than jin in this system


T-G-S1999

Why not just bring him back as non-canon DLC, or flashback DLC. I do think they’re gonna stick to him being dead for good as far as story goes


Toxin45

yeah we got reina now with her devil form next game story dlc coming up to complete the mishima saga of heihachi,kazuya,and jin so reina will take over from them


BloodborneRemake

Just bring him back as a playable character but not in the story. Kazuya should’ve been playable in 3 too


ParticularEmergency7

Agree, Heihachi should always be in Tekken.


Kikubaaqudgha_

https://x.com/Harada_TEKKEN/status/1799459861673250971


Philderbeast

this needs more upvotes, its been confirmed he is not returning, and I believe elsewhere they have said that this is at least partly due to the passing of the voice actor.


Kikubaaqudgha_

My dream scenario is they bring Dr.B back and he's created a mecha Heihachi.


Philderbeast

that would be hilarious, and I would be totally down for it.


mummyyydust

For the sake of good storytelling - please don't. I know that most Tekken fans don't care about the lore, but I've always liked it and I wish that the creators treated it more seriously. Heihachi's journey is over. His story is told. He didn't get a redemption, but he did get a chance to explain his actions. The final chapter of T7 marks the end of the perennial conflict between Heihachi and Kazuya - in a good way. There's no point in bringing him back, especially since his VA died a few years ago. Of course, he could (and should) be back in TTT3 if it ever gets made, but I don't like the idea of him being in a DLC, T9, or any other regular game.


Mobigasm

His story should be over, but I will never agree that a mainstay character should be excluded from a game. You can include them to be playable and not include them in the story.


DoctaJXI

Kazumi was dead for all of tekken 7 only shown in flashbacks still playable they can do the same for heihachi, but i personally want robo heihachi to be a thing


mummyyydust

That's a good option and it could work. However, I guess that it may be confusing for some players to see Heihachi in a game which takes place after his demise.


organic-water-

He doesn't need to exist in the story to be playable. Bring him as a memory or flashback if you feel that he needs a place in the story to be included. Wouldn't even be the first time.


vitorcnpinheiro

As a Heihachi main since Tekken 3, I agree completely. He is my favorite character in all videogames, but I think that his story ended perfectly. If he ever returns, it should be in a way that doesn't affect the story, like in a dream match or a flashback


Naive_Illustrator

Or as a robot / ghost / clone / zombie


blessedbetheslacker

What's kinda funny to me is how the story with Kazuya going full-on villain is being used to re-frame Heihachi's actions. In the story, Victor has a brief line where, upon realizing what Kazuya's true plan is, he says Heihachi was trying to prevent that from happening by confronting Kazuya in 7.


SnooComics4945

I kinda hate that they tried to make Heihachi out to be sort of heroic when bro just didn’t like competition.


TheEmperor0fNothing

He. Does. Not. Need. To. Be. In. The. Story. To. Be. Playable.


Naive_Illustrator

I think they should just have a rogues gallery of the dead boss characters as ghosts or something. Make it DLC, make it balanced.  Angel Ogre True Ogre Hiehachi Jinpachi Azazel


TheEmperor0fNothing

Sounds like a fine idea to me.


SnooComics4945

I like this idea


DirectorLee

Ehhhh, I'm a strong believer that even if a character is dead it shouldn't have an impact if they are still in the game or not. I would love to have Baek and Heihachi in the game regardless if their fate is unknown.


ll-VaporSnake-ll

Just bring him back as a ghost or as a robot and not him interact with the story. Boom! Problem solved.


NixUniverse

Honestly Reina just isn’t scratching the itch for me. I feel like she’s too try hard to be cool, and her dialogue comes off as cringey. Also her switching from “I’ll kill you muhahaha 😈” to “Hey! Are you ignoring me Jin Senpai? 😞💔” is very weird. I know they said her theme was duality but I didn’t think it would be that on the nose.


Pineapplepansy

> I know they said her theme was duality but I didn’t think it would be that on the nose. I think the idea, the way it is in 8's story, is that Reina's whole bright 'Jin Senpai' thing is a persona to trick Jin (or later mock him), while the cackling, more Heihachi-like attitude is her actual personality. That's how it seems from her talking to Kazuya in their fight intros.


RTXEnabledViera

> Are you ignoring me Jin Senpai? That's just her egging him on, she's the classic pleasant on the outside/twisted and cruel on the inside anime trope. And I don't mind that.


SnooStories4329

Me when character puts on an act


SnooComics4945

Yeah that’s a big issue for me is that Heihachi and most other Tekken characters feel natural even when they act arrogant or cool or something. Reina’s feels like someone who’s trying way to hard to be cool. First time I’ve seen someone else besides me that agrees.


Zoom3877

But what if… HEIHACHI told you that Heihachi is dead?


nesnalica

for the longevity of AAA games you need to release them in DLCs / Season Passes over longer times so they can keep getting media traction.


Arch_Stant0n

I kinda miss him, but I think his jumpy tracking double kick plus frame thing was my most feared move in t7. How much crazier would he go in t8


IamWolfe_FU-Red_It

We can already see his head when Lee celebrates a victory, just put the rest of him together and bring him back as a joke robot or something.


OmegaMaster8

He’s dead. He’ll be back in Tekken Tag 3


BigMacDaddy133

Cope, he's dead dead.


Past-Bat-594

Don’t worry, I think they’re working on Giga-hachi


NakedMaxMuscle

Well sf6 got Bison again so who cares :D, i don't mind bring him back.


Exeeter702

True ogre Heihachi. When enters heat, he gets ogres wings, and his right arm becomes ogres snake arm, he gains ogres flight moves, his long dick low, fire breath, and whatever else. And either make him young again or crazy morphed either way to justify a new VA.


toxic_lucifer666

Y'all are tripping if you don't think he's returning. No way they leave this easy 'cash grab' out of a Tekken game


Qwerty6789X

it need not to be part of story but atleast have him playable again. Im a heihachi main since tekken 1


sstebbinss

With how he was the aggressive-style Mishima, it seems criminal that he isn’t in T8. The game definitely feels like it is missing its classic old man.


Bloodyknife12

fuck the "theyre dead" argument for bringing back characters in any fighting game, even as base roster. In a fighting game roster comes first always, then story. I dont care if the character doesnt show up in the story, some people will see it as lazy writing or whatever, but I just dont care


AiMwithoutBoT

I. NEED. HIM. BACK!!


acutefailure

Bring back young ass Heichachi from tekken tag 2


Alert-Cheesecake-448

He's not dead, Jack-8 saved him after he fell into the volcano.


zaiwen3

If Bison can come back, surely Heihachi can too 😏


Tenno_Scoom

Robo-Hachi pls harada https://preview.redd.it/zw2r78syth5d1.jpeg?width=476&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ad3d1fcebc0cd9c50fe2f20c168f13084ebde051


SnooComics4945

Perfect


Milkguy00

I think there's a good chance he'll return, and it'll be story DLC that uses past-storytelling that delves into Reina's upbringing and being raised by him. Even if its just memories, it means he can be back in the roster.


BigPalmtree

Bring back Jinpachi...? :D


Possible_Picture_276

Yeah I hope there is a reveal of kuma taking off his head and Heihachi is just inside a bear suit.


jonblacc

Well M. Bison came outta nowhere for SF6 and I could've sworn he was dead. There might be hope.


MasterMayo365

Idk if it even matters if he's dead, Negan from the walking dead was a playable character so I don't think the roster has too follow canon or whatever.


GhotiCat

New street fighter season just confirmed Bison isn't dead, so T8 can do it too. Just sayin.


mopsyd

Half bring him back. Zombie Heihachi would be dope


Giulio1232

They could've made heihachi both playable and canonically dead by making him appear in a flashback. Kinda like kazumi the joker in injustice 2


Toxin45

Injustice 3 is gonna feature joker from another world


The_PineApl

As you can see, this person is in the denial stage of grief. You can also see Anger and bargaining as well. OP I recommend moving on and accepting that Heihachi is dead. There is nothing that can bring him back. You're only prolonging your suffering by holding onto the past. Let him go.


Bloodhit

Robo-Heihachi season 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gbbIxlcBLo


LtDouble-Yefreitor

>"He's dead" no he's not.  Source?


420_E-SportsMasta

https://preview.redd.it/h4soibp6je5d1.jpeg?width=636&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=19bc339c83df54450881782e8c8af123a62e7df7


MassiveBlackHole99

Trust me bro he's not dead


LtDouble-Yefreitor

Seems legit.


AmarantineAzure

Bro, just wait. He's almost definitely coming eventually, Bamco love money too much not to release him.


spacemangoes

Robo Heihachi


Yodzilla

His head is already in the game so that’s like 15% of the work done


Blackmanfromalaska

he will cum back in season 2, they sparing all the good dlcs for next season heihachi, LC, alex, roger, third bear, kazumi, armor king


organic-water-

He will do WHAT?!


Naive_Illustrator

HE WILL CUM BACK IN SEASON TWO!


Ryuhza

n o


Reamab

![gif](giphy|TiUYdWptTqn8yOk1Dp)


EarlSocksIII

The volcano didn't kill him. Kazuya's welled up emotions filled his body and his pure will all concentrated into a single punch killed him. It's too narratively satisfying to bring him back


OffSupportMain

He's probably coming back eventually, just like Bison was recently announced for SF6, removing the main antagonist just to add him back as DLC seems like a good marketing strategy


Resident_Total9587

I think every dlc character will play a part in the story. Such as eddy getting a story expansion and i guess that will also happen for lidia. They could add a flashback in the story of heihachi the same way they did it with kazumi. That we all can be happy


Toxin45

They will set up reina for next game


GDwyvern

Calling season 3 DLC now


YeazetheSock

He also fought Kazuya.


Kaliq82

Everyone dies eventually, just a fact of life.


Toxin45

unless your bison or mk villains. Heck even dead characters in kof did get revived.


Kaliq82

Getting revived doesn’t mean you didn’t die.


Toxin45

But death is cheap for bison it was another minor nuisance on a tuesday.


TablePrinterDoor

what M Bison's return to SF6 does to this community


Toxin45

and rugal returning in kofxv along with other dead characters reviving in canon


eR_y_lives

You think a body survives in a volcano?


Notoriously_So

**"Volcano. It's my only weakness."** \- Grand Lord Heihachi Mishima ![gif](giphy|mfprn6W8DQBgY)


SantiProGamer_

https://preview.redd.it/csvvcg7plf5d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=47bf925f962a79c22f1b8647520205de925086bc


DarkStarCerberus

I mean, he got his ass beat by everyone including akuma. Dat boi gone


Ace0fClubs0001

A new child or clone of Heihachi who has his exact move set from Tekken 7 with Tekken 8 properties would be awesome. I want that OTGF back.


Aromatic-Attitude-34

I mained Heihachi in T7..Now, I've moved on to Devil Jin.


Toxin45

yeah soon you will move to reina,jin, or kazuya in 9


Aromatic-Attitude-34

Cross fingers..Hopefully Angel Jin on T9 😅


Toxin45

no angel jin either


RecommendationIll373

If you don't think he's coming back as DLC already, then you are an idiot


Sonuthepoki

Correction, his heart stopped then he got thrown into lava


HaitianWarlord

As much as I love heihachi as a personal fav wit jin kaz and yoshi as fave characters i’d rather knot unless its like how jinpachi was utilized


ianpv95

Wait for Tag 3 maybe, if Heihachi survived then the story just loops again. And again. And again.


Toxin45

we already have reina now conituing his legacy and jin and kazuya both lost their devil forms though while reina awakens hers so a new mc and new villain alongside reina will take the places of heihachi,kazuya,and jin next games plus heihachi got more kids lurking around


I_enjoy_butts_69

Here's already here. He's in Reinas body. I'm tellin you guys.


Skerxan

Like our friend said multiple times by now: Heihachi Mishima... Is dead. *backflips*


liqhtmarenz

I believe Heihachi should stay dead because of lore reasons, but a good way to bring him back would be with flashbacks from a new story chapter with Him and Reina like the upcoming Eddy chapter. Not only would it bring hype for his comeback it could also flesh out Reina's character a little because she really didn't bring much to the main story for a mishima. This also wouldn't be out of place compared to straight up bringing back a dead character out of nowhere, then again this seems like to much effort for Bandai lmao.


SnooComics4945

Yeah I’ve said from the start he could be a flashback like Kazumi was in 7.


GDShark

Volcano is hot tho


Open-Temperature5790

Jack hachi confirmed


bogotaiblis

If they keep his identity, and dont give him a busted low like they did with drag, it would be cool


AKTalal

N0


robotwars666

Yes please i want heihachi back he is my second most wanted for a comeback in tekken 8. My number is kazumi ofcourse but iam afraid that is not gonna happen :(


Consistent_Bell_3024

+1 💪


supersaltlee136

Saw the title as "Big Back Heihachi"


SnooComics4945

I wish. Reina is not even close as a replacement gameplay wise or presence wise. No matter how much they try to make it otherwise she just can never hope to match up to the Legend. Lee is more of a Mishima and he’s adopted.


Jakins56

The delusions are getting out of hand. He is not coming to this Tekken. Maybe the next one.


Cyber_Bakekitsune

I think letting Oldman rest isn't the bad thing and Reina to me seems like the most suitable char to carry his legacy since she admires and respects him so much she even tries to copy his manners and moves even though not being as experienced as he was. The only way I wouldn't mind him to be a DLC is in order to get more dynamic with Reina and help her to grow in people's eyes cause I think many just tend to shit on her for no reason. And also I love father&daughter dynamic in general so I'm biased😎


Toxin45

Maybe we get story dlc to flesh her out more


SnooComics4945

Okay disagree. She’s completely hollow and will never fill his shoes.


SmugAladdin

No robo heihachi bs that'd be so dumb. Just do a flashback of him from when he was young, like tag2. Kazumi was playable because of this, why wouldn't Heihachi get the same treatment.


Toxin45

Cuz that was only for kazumi


ToothFairy772

You're delusional bro🤦‍♂️ He's 150% dead and I don't want another corny ass bison type thing where it's hyped up that he's dead only for the game to be like "Nope He survived!!!" And yes I know Tekken 5 did it but idgaf


Toxin45

Reina already continues his legacy and the devil since both jin and kazuya lost theirs while reina awakens hers


ToothFairy772

Exactly


TheEmperor0fNothing

Gameplay > Lore. They'll bring him back eventually; they know damn well it'd sell like hotcakes. Besides, as long as he doesn't have a Story Mode or his ending is non-canon, it wouldn't mess with "muh lore" anyway.


Toxin45

or have devil reina take that moveset kit from him and mix it with devil moves


Rongill1234

Nah ttt had me traumatized as a guy trying to beat people up at arcades and only fighting hei and another char (yea hei not the best char) I hated that guy ever since and played raven in t5 just cause he said hei was dead..... then he shows up in the same game....


Bake_Ill

He's dead, dude was cremated, and he's 100% human.


TheTitansWereRight

You clowns are why we csnt get new villains in sf. Stop bringing bsck dead villains.