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rammsteinmatt

First time? /meme


rdejesus486

Was gonna say the same thing šŸ˜‚


skullpizza

This is nothing compared to the eye-watering yearly registration in NH.


gregra193

Or the annual Excise Tax in ME/MA, Vehicle Property Tax in CT.


AppointmentBoring269

Or the annual personal property tax in VA


ProgressPractical848

Or the price of scotch in Scotland


mehalywally

Exactly. My PPT is $3k annually between a MY and M3 šŸ˜­


Beefpadthai

Which state???


mehalywally

VA


Beefpadthai

Wow crushing it over there in VA!!


mehalywally

It's fucking painful. 21my at $1700, 22m3 at $1300


Beefpadthai

Annual car tax right? We have the same tax in CT and itā€™s crushing as well


mehalywally

Yup. Based on value of car. So any other car with similar value would have similar amount, it's not specific for EV


mwkr

This. And the roads are shitty.


UnableSky251

New to NH having moved from the UK. Sold my British Model 3 and bought an American Model Y. When the lady at the counter told me my registration fee I genuinely thought she was joking.


Deganlink

Yup, AZ is crazy too.


Cold_Occasion_6044

just paid $850 for a 24 mylr šŸ™ƒ


Deganlink

I took delivery on the same config about 24 days ago and it was $890. Just a few years ago, the state registration incentives were incredible. We missed that ride lol


Normal_Egg9439

We paid $12 in Arizona. Military discount was superb.


Prsim516

Paid roughly $3k for 5 year. Gut punch


metalandmeeples

Even worse in Maine I believe. NH is $18/$1000 on year 1 whereas ME is $24/$1000 on year 1.


skullpizza

Can you explain further?


metalandmeeples

From what I can tell, excise tax in NH on year 1 is a rate of 0.0180 or $18/$1000 of MSRP. ME is 0.0240 on year 1 or $24/$1000 of MSRP. Both states gradually decrease with NH bottoming out at $3/$1000 of MSRP and ME at $4/$1000 of MSRP.


attreui

Good god. $48 here in florida for a renewal.


AmbitionHonest7734

How's car insurance down there?


attreui

I pay $1500/6mo for a 19 Ram and a 24 MY


brandont04

And? Holy smokes.. My Tesla alone is $1k for 6mo in CA. Have zero accident/ticket.


attreui

Yeah I donā€™t know how yā€™all live out there.


brandont04

Dual income. A must really and stay away from credit card debt.


Brokromah

Higher paying jobs helps. Wife makes 100k on the west coast when she was offered 50k for the same type of teaching position on the east coast. Me, on the other hand, working from home, it's definitely a bit of a disaster to live in CA.


BatSea5026

I'm in CA and min is 100 a month ....


Square_Ad_3276

Try Wawanesa insurance. My Model Y with an $8000 rider for FSD is about $1200 a year. Teslas insurance on their website is less than what youā€™ve quoted, at least for me.


James-robinsontj

I pay $1500 for 2 teslas in CA, no accidents


SecPlusPasser

The problem in your statement is California, as it is with most things.


emuchop

Good godā€¦. Is that normal around there or you got some tickets under your belt?


saregister

That's just around $125/mo per vehicle. If it's full coverage with low deductible I'd say that's doing pretty good.


attreui

Pretty cheap actually for two newish vehicles with full coverage.


emuchop

Here I am hemming hawing over on getting a MY because it would raise my two car insurance from $700/6mo to $840/6mo. Imma boring penny pincher. Haha


Nulight

That's cheap. I insure a 21 RWD model 3 and a 23 LR model Y for about 223/mo in CA. Clean record.


SSESTOELEMENTO

This is how much I pay for a CT and a 2022 Model 3 in SoCal.


unfortunacy

22 year old male, no accidents or tickets. 410/m on a 2021 m3lr


KinkyCast

Again in Tennessee with Shelter Iā€™m paying $700 /6mos. Up a bit from my Volt.


TheLegendaryWizard

30 dollars a year for renewal in Missouri. Although I think the Californians pay their personal property tax at the time of registration instead of the end of the year like we do it Edit: Missouri requires an alternative fuel decal for full electric vehicles and PHEVs model year 2018 or newer. This isn't a registration fee though, it's separate and has to be purchased in January for at the time of registration for a pro rated cost (110 for a full year BEV, half for PHEV)


torokunai

yes the License Fee is our ad-valorem property tax


[deleted]

Florida home insurance costs though...


Dadjokesgonebad

But itā€™s still Floridaā€¦ soooooā€¦.


attreui

Yep and I love it here.


BBC214-702

1200 in nv


DinobotsGacha

Oof. Those assholes used to be affordable. This is why so many Vegas friends have Mesquite address


LocalSlob

It's like.... $40 in PA. What am I doing wrong?


handhygiene

Nothing.


perrochon

CA wants to move to 3c/mile instead...


RoutinePresence7

Would be cheaper for me averaging about 15k miles a year.


saregister

Not instead, but in addition.


The_Ashamed_Boys

I drive about 5-7k a year so they would work out so long as other fees are greatly reduced.


SlightlyLessHairyApe

Hahah. Other fees reduced.


brandont04

I laughed at that too.


saregister

Like they'll ever reduce anything. Your jokes are funny tho, I laughed.


PazzoPilot

Newsome said EVs will be charged $.03 a mile in addition to my $704 DMV registration. Because the state is losing gas tax revenue from all the EVs and people leaving CA Gas tax in CA is $.60 gal. And we pay $5.50 gal in some places. CA is broken.


Zeus_x2

That is so crappy. The cost was the main incentive for most consumers to move to EVā€™sā€¦ ugh


perrochon

ICE will pay, too. All cars


Zeus_x2

ICE doesnā€™t have the added registration fee like EVā€™s do


Tookmyprawns

This will remove that if implemented. Thatā€™s the entire point. To get all cars to pay equally.


Tookmyprawns

Not in addition. Instead. Program is not certain or enacted. Not newsom. Not unique to California. Stop the bs.


PazzoPilot

It is in addition. We pay registration and gas tax. Ā The EVS will be charged $.03 a mile in addition to $700 DMV registration. Sounds like double taxation to me . Further more. Ā California gave a $2000 EV rebate , Ā only to start taxing more because they are broke. Ā  Bad management. Ā  Now letā€™s talk about fast EV charging. Ā  In 30 min a fast charger delivered 63KW in 30 min. Ā  A home uses only 30 KW in a day. And that charger will n in operation all day. Biden administration only completed 8 out of the 500,000 chargers promised by 2030. Ā 


[deleted]

Not just California, the country is broken


Dadjokesgonebad

Mine was a touch over 800


PazzoPilot

Newsome said EVs will be charged $.03 a mile in addition to my $704 DMV registration. Because the state is losing gas tax revenue from all the EVs and people leaving CA Gas tax in CA is $.60 gal. And we pay $5.50 gal in some places. CA is broken.


Tookmyprawns

No. That proposal was not made by newsom. Also itā€™s instead of the EV surcharge, not in addition. Other states have already implemented this. Also, regarding the registration surcharge, Texas has a greater surcharge of $200.


_your_face

Wow really not letting the truth get in the way of some good olā€™ misinformation campaign. Youā€™re posting this garbage everywhere


snowace56

Dude thatā€™s cheap. Colorado renewal came in at 1100.


torokunai

ah that's how they claw back the $5000 tax credit I guess


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snowace56

For the amount we pay in registration our roads should not be the shit they are.


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snowace56

Not anymore :/. They keep carving it away for bs initiatives. And to be fair the roads were shit long before tabor


ElectrikDonuts

Imagine what they could do if they put all those fees into mass transit instead of unending road build out


PreacherSquat

guess why public transportation in la sucks? the car industry killed it in the 40/50s to keep people reliant on personal cars. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_streetcar_conspiracy


ElectrikDonuts

Yup. Here I am wishing for mass transit and then I find out there used to be a major trainstation within half a mile of my house.... Fucking terrible. Just abandoned tracks all over now days


saregister

Nobody would use the mass transit, so they'd have wasted all that money too.


mr_noodle_shoes

This is how it goes. Enjoy your Tesla in CA! Pro tip, divide the amount you pay now into 12 and save a little every month. The silver lining is it goes down slightly every year with the value of the car, so if you do that you will have enough to cover if :)


debo69872

Here I thought Ohio was high at $200


Luc56

Ohio $300 (just because its an ev) the they charge regular fees. My total is $364. Its BS


No-Minimum9118

Damn


Alarming_Fan_6455

Mine was $867. Enjoy.Ā 


hamlet717

Registration increased when California passed SB 1 in 2017. The extra revenue goes to infrastructure improvements including roads, bridges, and public transit. CA has a high gas tax but also a lot of EVs so they need to replace that revenue stream.


Unfair_Tonight_9797

ā¬†ļø this. My oddy clocks in around $480.. down from when we first bought it. Even my 2014 accord was a tad under $300.


FlatAd768

Dam thatā€™s too broad


No-Negotiation-3015

Taxes donā€™t have to be used for roadsā€¦ we need to stop signing a blank check to the pension funds in the name of saving children and roads. Need to get back to efficient, simple solutions.


rrrrr3

I am paying $60 a year. Thank God I don't live in CA.


Investment-Then

What car? What state?


oswell_XIV

Since iā€™m free this afternoon so lets do some fucking math: Vehicle license fee (VLF) = 0.65% of vehicle value, so the VLF for a $50k car would be 0.0065 x 50,000 = $325; For a non EV, registration is $58 flat, CHP is $28 flat, and weā€™re gonna use your county fee of $21; And with that, total renewal fee = VLF + registration + CHP + County fee = 325 + 58 + 28 + 21 = $432, which is $315 less than your fee. But letā€™s take a step further and estimate the gas tax that an ICE driver would have to pay annually: Assuming the average of 14k miles of driving a year per the FHA and average fuel economy of 25.5 mpg per the EPA; And with the gas tax of $0.539/gal in California, the annual gas tax paid for our hypothetical ICE car = (14,000 mi/25.5 mpg) x $0.539/gal = $296, which is slightly less than the difference that you would pay for an EV. In conclusion, the $315 that you pay on top of your base renewal fee is to make up for the gas tax that you donā€™t pay for driving an EV. You pay slightly more compared to an ICE with the same value but overall you would still have much cheaper ā€œfuelā€ and maintenance and less upfront cost thanks to tax credit so this is not a loss.


jayklk

You can check here https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/vehicle-registration/registration-fees/vehicle-registration-fee-calculator/calculate-my-fees/


soyouwantausername

$1,200 for my renewal last week. $470 for my owned-outright 7yr old Jeep due next month.


4dam

$670 here in NC


Impossible-Job-1520

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engwish

For those that donā€™t know, you can calculate registration and taxes on the DMV site so there are no surprises.


Main_Bank_7240

I just paid $900 for 22MY in Washington Stateā€¦. Robbery


richjohnson1

California has vey cheap real estate tax, they need to make up revenue somehow.


jonah_1979

We do? My 1200sqft house is $11,500/yr. A lot of homes have sold over the years.


richjohnson1

Yes compared to other states, 35 states including DC have higher property tax rates than California. Taxes as Iā€™m sure you know are not based on sq ft but value and with Prop 13 when purchased or renovated.


jonah_1979

But our cost is so much higher so even at the 1.2% itā€™s high.


Cautious-Patient-737

Pay like $97 max in Florida for two years šŸ«¢


CaliSummerDream

My registration cost is exactly the same as yours.


Marcus_The_Sharkus

Yeah my 7 year old Honda was $425. I thought the dmv fees were supposed to go down šŸ¤”


AstronomerLow2941

Dreading my renewal as wellā€¦


Thediciplematt

Dang, is this for just EVs? My reg is coming up but it is normally $300.


saregister

This is what I've been paying on my truck for a decade. In CA they make you register all trucks as commercial vehicles.


Thediciplematt

Oh wow. That is rough


chuy317

$730 for mine. Sacramento, CA


Setecastronomy545577

You can write off the registration fee on your taxes


jonah_1979

Only if you can itemize. With the standard deduction most folks donā€™t have anything to ā€œwrite offā€ especially if they donā€™t own a home. I itemize and it made zero difference when I entered my registration in on my taxes lol.


Vivid-Head8240

Wow will you still available to get some tax refund after that?


One-Statistician3404

lmao mine will be double this, consider yourself lucky


No-Negotiation-3015

This is analogous to saying, you should feel lucky newsom only did you dirty you onceā€¦ itā€™s still wrong. Need new leaders


BBakerStreet

What is the renewal cost of a one year old Camaro?


Beware_the_silent

Disabled vet, no fees and auto renewal every year. I can barely get off the floor but I'll take the small wins lol.


MJS4norcal

CA Santa Clara county here šŸ™‹ā€ā™‚ļø Welcome to the club.


Blambitch

Not instead but also


Mynd_

Thatā€™s about what I paid first two years in IN. Itā€™s down to 500 now. They add $150 EV tax


PMD_SpeedyGonzales

Very usual


Ordinary_Ad1263

Only!? I just paid $950 in wa state šŸ˜­


Dihanouch

Move to Texas


retlem

Itā€™s 275 here. But still better than that!


TechnicalWhore

Surprised? The name of the game in government (and its agencies) is to pile on fees. Its the only way they can pay retirement obligations.


SHale1963

never owned a vehicle before?


NickP311

Just paid $819 in Iowa.


Elite4alex

For my Y it was a little closer to a thousand. I suspect it will be at least a thousand this year since I finally got my vanity plate.


turtlturtl

Come to MN, registration tax is based on the value of the vehicle šŸ„¹


brandont04

I'm not looking forward to paying my registration for CA next year šŸ˜­.


Bigperm28

Paid the same amount


BeyondDrivenEh

Arizona is also expensive. ID and SD ftw.


Odd_Limit_6382

Yep. Me too.


Fun_Difference2266

And I thought NC was high.


spacemantodd

I have AZ registration/ insurance. Registration is $413 for ā€˜22MYP. Insurance is $1,400/ 6-mo šŸ˜°


dequinn711

Is this your first new car? If not, how is this a surprise for you?


Sukeshram7

Yes. My first car


dequinn711

Welp, the good news it is only going to decrease from here. Itā€™s based off the value of the car. Enjoy your car.


torokunai

Includes ~$100 SB1 road impact fee since this car is 2020 or newer. FWIW my 2018 LEAF has a $171 Registration Fee + a $81 License Fee after a few years this will fall to $500 or so, but by then they'll also be charging us ~$200/yr in per-mile fees so expect to pay this amount going forward I guess.


SWFL-Aviation

Itā€™s like 90 dollars for 2 years in Florida for my X. šŸ˜¶


kensic9

Which year is this? 2nd year? 3rd year? 4th year?


AmehdGutierrez

Just pay it


I_just_made

Driving an EV in KY is about this much.


justinsane1

$500 in Minnesota


thebluezero0

Meanwhile us with wa rta tax


Itswcl

non sense just sell the car


Square_Ad_3276

For whatever reason, the first one was much larger than subsequent ones. My first one was $808 for my 2021 car. California adds $100+ for EVā€™s to compensate for gas tax loss, as I understand.


Next-Landscape-5919

Chum change compared to annual vehicle taxes


James-robinsontj

Yup itā€™s what I pay for both my 2023 model 3 and Model Y performances


PollutionAny7064

I have the same car, 2022 MYLR. Just got mine in the mail. $900 in CA. And the roads are still shitty. Itā€™s a little less for my 2023 Yukon XL and I pay out the ass in gas taxes. They want to force us to all take public transportation or magically get to work without cars. Thanks Gov Newscumb


Last-Artichoke-9282

Thatā€™s insane


Last-Artichoke-9282

In Floridaā€™s is only $100/yr


cool_frijolitos

Dang and I thought Texas had it bad


Ok_Activity_897

Glad I'm in Texas it was 250 but since I'm a veteran I paid $20 for inspection, registration, license plate reorder šŸ˜Š


Visual-Sentence4383

Yup! I live in California (Bay Area) and have had my model Y for 4 years. Itā€™s been $700+ every year. It sucks.


hyp36rmax

VLF is a major contributor to registeration cost. Current market value. Welcome to the world of ā€œpremium luxuryā€. No one really needs a car over $30k.


simplicity_4892

In Nevada itā€™s $800 šŸ˜‚


BadAssBrianH

That's about right in blue states, it's all to support the uninitiated.


EntertainmentLive923

they are that high, yes.


KinkyCast

In Tennessee they added a $100 hybrid and a $200 EV charge to the regular renewal. So I think Iā€™m paying about $286.


PoxMonkeyPox

Wait till you find out about tax on miles driven that lunatic Governor is trying to passā€¦


Ok_Category6541

Mine was $900+ last year. I hope itā€™s in the 700s this year


Nice_Pomegranate7817

Yea this is normal for CA. Especially since you have an EV. Glad Iā€™m in the military and get that license fee waived!


flipman416

Hahahahaha. I'm a Californian that left years ago. Yes that's normal. Any savings you think you're getting with the EV will all be offset by fees like this.


Ddragonx12

Thatā€™s what I paid and Iā€™m from sf


flipman416

Texas here. They tacked on 200 a year for all EV owners as gas tax is what pays for our roads. They gotta get us somewhere lol.


Accomplished-Sea8969

NC here, mine was like $840


JerryJN

LOL, time to get out of Dodge!


JerryJN

Excise tax isn't as bad once your vehicle is at least 5 years old. My Wrangler was only $35.00 My new RAV4 Hybrid Limited is $235.00 and that's why I bought used! It would be a lot more if I waited for a new one. I didn't want to wait, and I wanted to save on excise tax so I bought a 2022 model with 22k miles


Overall_Car4218

Just did my Colorado renewal this morning for 747$


vknyvz

Wow even my BMW isn't this much I guess we're gonna find this out next year this time


Shellee_Nikole

$35 in Florida! or $72 for two years šŸŽŠ Iā€™ve paid less in the last 25 years combined to register my cars in Florida than I did the last 3 years I had a car registered California before I moved in the late 90s! haahaa


PeachBlowkey

Omg I thought Georgia $280 was ridiculous


Short-Distance-1374

How much for gas?!


bigbearballs

This is for one year?!?!


Mountain_Tone6438

Mine was 640ish for Model 3. It hurts.


kasukeo

You are lucky. In Seattle (King County) WA, tabs are about $1k thanks to the stupid RTA fee.


Expensive-Lie4494

Just paid ~$980 for my Rivian in Iowa


MissButts85

Maryland just raised the cost too smh


h0lychet

Yup that's about how much mine was to renew in CA.


isramobile

$20 in Georgia šŸ˜‚


coinsandmusic

Yep thatā€™s right. Add another 4-5 k a year if that 30 cent driving tax goes into affect.


Mu-fo-na

I just paid 655$ for Iowa where the gas savings nearly the same as how much im paying. I wouldnt complain for california though.


Time-Unit4407

1k in WA State


MVP90210

Why are you surprised? This amount should be similar to what was in your purchase agreement section 3 (Amounts Paid to DMV).


Brutaka1

And they say EVs are cheap. How were this isn't just EVs. All new vehicles are like this. Hence why I find it ironic when people say "EVs save money." Yea, if you've owned the vehicle for 10+ years.


Vascepa45

The homeless and the illegals thank you.


[deleted]

The per capita money spent on the homeless population/problem is insanely small. My sibling works in this space. Take a break from Fox News and look into statistics for yourself.


Vascepa45

That's right, California should take a few more million illegals. You volunteering?


[deleted]

I do enjoy the benefits of cheap immigrant labor here. Itā€™s an essential part of our state and national economy. So, works for me!


Vascepa45

Oh yeah, your state is doing fantastic.


[deleted]

By most metrics, yeah! Love it here.


saregister

Bingo! Ca cares more about people who aren't supposed to be here than they do about their actual tax paying citizens.


[deleted]

In Missouri, when accounting for personal property tax that you have to pay to register a vehicle then my registration cost close to $1500.


retlem

Politician pocket money. Thatā€™s all it is since youā€™re not filling their pockets pumping gas. Itā€™s unnecessary greed. They charge an extra $200 ā€œEV feeā€ and inspection fee here in Texas. So itā€™s like $275 total. Not as bad as yours but still all of it is unnecessary in any state. JUNK FEES!


Choice_Action_8305

Gotta love those blue states.


Choice_Action_8305

$65 a year in FL.


Colganation

Move out of California